Yes. I edited the topic and made a reddit post.

Reminder: Monero Meet tomorrow at 18 UTC :)

<itzblaze> monero on top

Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/

xmrscott: I nominate oceanus

Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work. For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off. For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from losers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't laugh at you when they steal your money.

Have you guys seen this?

Kurt describes how BTC is now in the hands of the banksters.

This would explain the good vibe it gets, despite it being transparent to the bone.

*now*? lol

Well he mentions 2014.

don't forget who financed cockstream

I see you don't need to watch this clip at all.

:D

lol

Meeting in about 30

xmrscott: why? He is a hero and he has beautiful blonde hair

meeting time

hello

1. Greetings

Hello.

<Keiji Case> Boop

welcome @Keiji Case

rehrar asked me to run the meeting today

2. CCS updates

no new CCS proposals in Ideas

all Funding Required proposals have been funded, including BP+ audit and vtnerd

Hello

anything else to report on here?

wen can I buy my panopticar aka tesla with montero

luigi1111 is taking care of CCS, but afaik evaluations are done when milestones and payments are claimed

3. Workgroup report

we try to look at things every so often, but nothing particularly regular. As long as things aren't abandoned, we carry on

please say 'me' if you have a workgroup to report on :)

I feel sick. Sorry guys.

hope you feel better soon :)

very quiet meeting today

let me start by sharing some of the big events of the last week then

first, COMIT's BTC<>XMR atomic swap is open for testing reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ly62tk…waps_public_xmrbtc_atomic_swap_demo

oh let me move them

Can everyone see xmrhaelan[m] messages? I have a doubt about moderation of channel

they were pretty clear in the post about the limitations, where the XMR holder needs to find a maker, and the BTC needs to move first

binaryFate: no I can't see

Ah shit, he was giving updates

well yeah they are on matrix

okay I'm checking both now

did not see them

give me a sec to scroll up and see what I missed

xmrhaelan[m] said with regard to the MO CCS: "Ours has been in progress for way longer than expected due to having to build things from scratch on the backend and helping with community projects that come up. We’re volunteers and taking our time."

xmrhaelan[m]: can you post your update again please?

• New Privacy Policy monerooutreach.org/your-privacy.html

• working on licensing thanks to ErCiccione persistent encouragement. Most content will probably be CC-BY-NC.

perfect ty, came through on Freenode now

• Reminder we have a Monero calendar. Just let us know what to add by using link at bottom of page: monerooutreach.org/monero-calendar

• Updating work in Gallery/Videos starting with Monero in the Wild monerooutreach.org/gallery

• Working with Sovereign Street Art on above and a Merchant Sticker Kit and rework of the old sticker page. If untraceable is here they might be able to add to this.

The most important Monero Space update I have is that Monero Meet is directly after this, so please attend if you can. Also that we're setting up an interview with Cypherpunk Holdings

anyone else have a workgroup update?

I'm going to add a new section to this meeting given the difficulties we have had here today:

4. primary meeting location

meetings have up until this point been freenode IRC first, with relays

I think we should make it Matrix primary on #monero-community:monero.social

especially given the recent freenode spam which has made it frankly pretty unusable

obviously I can't make any decision here, but thoughts?

As long as we aren’t moving to video I am flexible

how does this affect irc users?

nioc: at the moment, you can't read some messages from people on Matrix who are not voiced

but they can read your messages

so I will miss things hmmm

well, you already are since people are trying to message from Matrix

Spam can still be a problem on Matrix channels

Are the IRC channels and Matrix bridged? So it would not matter on which an attack happened, the meeting would be diturbed regardless? Or is this logic wrong?

can you try again sgp_[m]

xmrscott: can you post a message here?

yeah but I haven't missed things for years

This is a message

xmrscott[m]1: that's your first that came through on IRC

yeah luigi1111w updated the modes

c'est ne pas une message

.luigi

<msvb-lab "Are the IRC channels and Matrix "> Spam is deletable in Matrix, so technically yes some sort of initial disturbance, but for a brief time

But the spam from IRC would just keep coming anyway?

And all the IRC users will not have any less spam

Unless freenode operators are able to come up with a way to stop it altogether, yes

it caan be cleaned up on the matrix side though

Core set up this awesome tool for us, I think we should use it

(Matrix)

* it can be cleaned up on the matrix side though

does monero host its own matrix server?

that should be the way to go

Yes, monero social is ran by core

we can give it a try once and see

bye

oh i thought monero social was a monero space project

nioc you should still be able to see stuff either way, since the quiet is removed

getting the old timers off irc though..

:D

I mix up "social" and "space" constantly :p

I am currently painting clouds on my ceiling so I will never be at a loss

but ya i think monero should promote using matrix over irc is that was the question.

just use a 🌑

and ⭐️⭐️⭐️

It'd be worthwhile making it clearer that it's run by core too....I didn't know that either.

Joining instructions forum.monero.space/d/83-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server

thunderosa___: open to sugestions on clarity

any other comments? matrix is the future^tm

(open ideas time follows)

get off my lawn

need to get binaryFate and luigi1111w on matrix too

kinghat: they both are already :)

I'm there if really needed but otherwise old IRC timer

So I think if we're going to transition to Matrix especially, we need to have one or two more active Matrix mods to be decided by Core or whatever. For example, there's spam from right before the meeting that hasn't been deleted

Can we have the next meeting there and re-assess? No need to overthink it IMO

let me get element and see

binaryFate: sounds like a good idea imo

New matrix mods could just be the previous IRC mods?

Yep, rehrar's monerosocial for example doesn't have mod-ship despite his IRC having such

fixed

^^

nice

instructions unclear

to those on Matrix, he do-opped rehrar on freenode lol

okay, something for rehrar to look at for planning the next meeting

5. open ideas time

what else do you want to talk about today?

Lol

Monerotopia is pretty cool

O__o nobody ever comes to my meetings. But suddenly luigi1111w and others are here for sgp's

Look on the bright side. At least you don't need to obsess over signs of life from FUK now.

I only recently figured out it was his meeting

thinks rehrar is playing hooky

^ removed spam message on Discord and Matrix

kinghat: how is it? I only joined one or two

The spam is relentless

whoops, I meant cankerwort

we are easy to confuse

They play Golden Balls

It's a good time

Everyone who touts the benefits of IRC clearly don't account for this spam and the inability to get rid of it.

Don't get me wrong, IRC is ok.

cankerwort: they do it every Thursday right?

But Matrix is better. Maybe.

mebbe

They have done a few Sundays but I think Thursday is the idea

what about it is most fun? do a lot of people show up? is it just a fun conversation?

DEF CON is not ruling out in-person con for 2021 defcon.org/html/defcon-29/dc-29-cfe.html

that's good news

re defcon: I made a #monero-events channel for all event planning

makes no sense imo to have -defcon, -ccc, monerokon, etc

sgp: That's good, but we have monero-defcon as well with twenty members?

re: defcon though, Bsides LV is going virtual, so odds are not in favor of DC holding physical IMO, especially from what I've heard from the goon grapevine

Should we try to migrate to -events, and delete -defcon when nobody (unless duplicate) is on the channel?

Yes

Blackhat is hedging @ Mandalay Bay + virtual

It's a good conversation and random people jump in on the Jitsi chat

And the prize of the competition is based on the number of viewers

Monerotopia ^

ty cankerwort, I'll try to catch the next one. It's great that there's another weekly activity :)

okay, last call for anything else meeting-related

ive participated enough already, dont want to hurt rehrar feels

😘

<3

okay, meeting over then. thanks everyone for coming!

join us for Monero Meet: youtube.com/watch?v=MYw31K-z4H4

and DM me if you want to speak in voice

Thanks sgp, good meeting.

thanks everyone!

Great chat guys

Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/