01:40:02 <rehrar> Yes. I edited the topic and made a reddit post.
01:47:44 <sgp_> Reminder: Monero Meet tomorrow at 18 UTC :)
03:17:32 <DisBotXMR3> <itzblaze> monero on top
04:25:16 <ejscanax> Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/
06:44:57 <Mumuks[m]> xmrscott: I nominate oceanus
09:17:54 <izbmugqazsif> Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work. For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off. For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from losers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't laugh at you when they steal your money.
09:42:25 <mj-xmr> Have you guys seen this?
09:42:26 <mj-xmr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pHGi0nQMqs&feature=emb_title
09:42:26 <monerobux> [ BANKS Hijacked Crypto - Hidden Puppeteers Exposed (AMA with Kurt Wuckert Jr) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
09:43:07 <mj-xmr> Kurt describes how BTC is now in the hands of the banksters.
09:43:47 <mj-xmr> This would explain the good vibe it gets, despite it being transparent to the bone.
09:43:58 <charolastra> *now*? lol
09:44:27 <mj-xmr> Well he mentions 2014.
09:44:35 <charolastra> don't forget who financed cockstream
09:45:14 <mj-xmr> I see you don't need to watch this clip at all.
09:48:46 <charolastra> :D
14:08:06 <gingeropolous> lol
16:32:51 <sgp_> Meeting in about 30
16:34:02 <Mumuks[m]> xmrscott: why? He is a hero and he has beautiful blonde hair
17:00:17 <sgp_> meeting time
17:00:27 <binaryFate> hello
17:00:29 <sgp_> 1. Greetings
17:00:41 <msvb-lab> Hello.
17:01:44 <DisBotXMR3> <Keiji Case> Boop
17:01:57 <sgp_> welcome @Keiji Case
17:03:07 <sgp_> rehrar asked me to run the meeting today
17:03:14 <sgp_> 2. CCS updates
17:04:10 <sgp_> no new CCS proposals in Ideas
17:04:41 <sgp_> all Funding Required proposals have been funded, including BP+ audit and vtnerd
17:04:52 <midipoet> Hello
17:04:53 <sgp_> anything else to report on here?
17:05:20 <nioc> wen can I buy my panopticar aka tesla with montero
17:07:16 <binaryFate> luigi1111 is taking care of CCS, but afaik evaluations are done when milestones and payments are claimed
17:08:12 <sgp_> 3. Workgroup report
17:08:14 <luigi1111w> we try to look at things every so often, but nothing particularly regular. As long as things aren't abandoned, we carry on
17:08:42 <sgp_> please say 'me' if you have a workgroup to report on :)
17:09:14 <rehrar> I feel sick. Sorry guys.
17:09:41 <nioc> hope you feel better soon :)
17:10:31 <sgp_> very quiet meeting today
17:10:44 <sgp_> let me start by sharing some of the big events of the last week then
17:11:06 <sgp_> first, COMIT's BTC<>XMR atomic swap is open for testing https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ly62tk/let_there_be_swaps_public_xmrbtc_atomic_swap_demo/
17:11:07 <monerobux> [REDDIT] Let there be swaps! - Public XMR<>BTC Atomic Swap Demo (self.Monero) | 488 points (100.0%) | 100 comments | Posted by comit-network | Created at 2021-03-05 - 06:43:36
17:11:27 <luigi1111w> oh let me move them
17:11:29 <binaryFate> Can everyone see xmrhaelan[m] messages? I have a doubt about moderation of channel
17:11:34 <sgp_> they were pretty clear in the post about the limitations, where the XMR holder needs to find a maker, and the BTC needs to move first
17:11:41 <sgp_> binaryFate: no I can't see
17:11:49 * sgp_ checks element
17:11:55 <binaryFate> Ah shit, he was giving updates
17:12:00 <luigi1111w> well yeah they are on matrix
17:12:04 <sgp_> okay I'm checking both now
17:12:06 <nioc> did not see them
17:12:30 <sgp_> give me a sec to scroll up and see what I missed
17:13:01 <sgp_> xmrhaelan[m] said with regard to the MO CCS: "Ours has been in progress for way longer than expected due to having to build things from scratch on the backend and helping with community projects that come up. We’re volunteers and taking our time."
17:13:25 <sgp_> xmrhaelan[m]: can you post your update again please?
17:13:49 <xmrhaelan[m]> 	•	New Privacy Policy https://www.monerooutreach.org/your-privacy.html
17:13:49 <xmrhaelan[m]> 	•	working on licensing thanks to ErCiccione persistent encouragement. Most content will probably be CC-BY-NC.
17:13:58 <sgp_> perfect ty, came through on Freenode now
17:14:07 <xmrhaelan[m]> 	•	Reminder we have a Monero calendar. Just let us know what to add by using link at bottom of page: https://www.monerooutreach.org/monero-calendar/
17:14:07 <xmrhaelan[m]> 	•	Updating work in Gallery/Videos starting with Monero in the Wild https://www.monerooutreach.org/gallery/
17:14:22 <xmrhaelan[m]> 	•	Working with Sovereign Street Art on above and a Merchant Sticker Kit and rework of the old sticker page. If untraceable is here they might be able to add to this.
17:15:30 <sgp_> The most important Monero Space update I have is that Monero Meet is directly after this, so please attend if you can. Also that we're setting up an interview with Cypherpunk Holdings
17:16:26 <sgp_> anyone else have a workgroup update?
17:17:43 <sgp_> I'm going to add a new section to this meeting given the difficulties we have had here today:
17:17:48 <sgp_> 4. primary meeting location
17:18:14 <sgp_> meetings have up until this point been freenode IRC first, with relays
17:18:56 <sgp_> I think we should make it Matrix primary on #monero-community:monero.social
17:19:23 <sgp_> especially given the recent freenode spam which has made it frankly pretty unusable
17:19:49 <sgp_> obviously I can't make any decision here, but thoughts?
17:20:12 <xmrhaelan[m]> As long as we aren’t moving to video I am flexible
17:20:13 <nioc> how does this affect irc users?
17:20:44 <sgp_> nioc: at the moment, you can't read some messages from people on Matrix who are not voiced
17:20:57 <sgp_> but they can read your messages
17:21:20 <nioc> so I will miss things hmmm
17:21:49 <sgp_> well, you already are since people are trying to message from Matrix
17:21:57 <cankerwort[m]> Spam can still be a problem on Matrix channels
17:22:02 <msvb-lab> Are the IRC channels and Matrix bridged? So it would not matter on which an attack happened, the meeting would be diturbed regardless? Or is this logic wrong?
17:22:03 <luigi1111w> can you try again sgp_[m]
17:22:15 <sgp_[m]> xmrscott: can you post a message here?
17:22:26 <nioc> yeah but I haven't missed things for years
17:22:28 <xmrscott[m]1> This is a message
17:22:39 <sgp_> xmrscott[m]1: that's your first that came through on IRC
17:22:58 <binaryFate> yeah luigi1111w updated the modes
17:23:02 <charolastra> c'est ne pas une message
17:23:11 <nioc> .luigi
17:23:11 <monerobux> 🍄 luigi is doing. mario is not doing luigi is doing 🍄
17:23:22 <xmrscott[m]1> <msvb-lab "Are the IRC channels and Matrix "> Spam is deletable in Matrix, so technically yes some sort of initial disturbance, but for a brief time
17:23:48 <cankerwort[m]> But the spam from IRC would just keep coming anyway?
17:24:23 <cankerwort[m]> And all the IRC users will not have any less spam
17:24:29 <xmrscott[m]1> Unless freenode operators are able to come up with a way to stop it altogether, yes
17:24:56 <kinghat[m]> it caan be cleaned up on the matrix side though
17:25:01 <sgp_> Core set up this awesome tool for us, I think we should use it
17:25:03 <sgp_> (Matrix)
17:25:06 <kinghat[m]>  * it can be cleaned up on the matrix side though
17:25:30 <kinghat[m]> does monero host its own matrix server?
17:25:42 <kinghat[m]> that should be the way to go
17:26:05 <xmrscott[m]1> Yes, monero social is ran by core
17:26:12 <binaryFate> we can give it a try once and see
17:26:18 <nioc> bye
17:26:43 <kinghat[m]> oh i thought monero social was a monero space project
17:27:02 <luigi1111w> nioc you should still be able to see stuff either way, since the quiet is removed
17:27:08 <kinghat[m]> getting the old timers off irc though..
17:27:28 <nioc> :D
17:27:50 <sgp_> I mix up "social" and "space" constantly :p
17:28:22 <nioc> I am currently painting clouds on my ceiling so I will never be at a loss
17:28:34 <kinghat[m]> but ya i think monero should promote using matrix over irc is that was the question.
17:28:55 <kinghat[m]> just use a 🌑
17:29:11 <kinghat[m]> and ⭐️⭐️⭐️
17:29:18 <thunderosa___> It'd be worthwhile making it clearer that it's run by core too....I didn't know that either.
17:29:44 <sgp_[m]> Joining instructions https://forum.monero.space/d/83-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server
17:29:57 <binaryFate> thunderosa___:  open to sugestions on clarity
17:30:05 <sgp_> any other comments? matrix is the future^tm
17:30:27 <sgp_> (open ideas time follows)
17:30:30 <luigi1111w> get off my lawn
17:30:37 <cankerwort[m]> https://mobile.twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1365881076229488641
17:30:52 <kinghat[m]> need to get binaryFate and luigi1111w on matrix too
17:31:28 <sgp_[m]> kinghat: they both are already :)
17:31:35 <binaryFate> I'm there if really needed but otherwise old IRC timer
17:31:37 <xmrscott[m]1> So I think if we're going to transition to Matrix especially, we need to have one or two more active Matrix mods to be decided by Core or whatever. For example, there's spam from right before the meeting that hasn't been deleted
17:32:49 <binaryFate> Can we have the next meeting there and re-assess? No need to overthink it IMO
17:32:54 <luigi1111w> let me get element and see
17:33:23 <sgp_> binaryFate: sounds like a good idea imo
17:34:20 <cankerwort[m]> New matrix mods could just be the previous IRC mods?
17:35:09 <xmrscott[m]1> Yep, rehrar's monerosocial for example doesn't have mod-ship despite his IRC having such
17:35:29 <binaryFate> fixed
17:35:35 <binaryFate> ^^
17:36:08 <luigi1111w> nice
17:36:23 <binaryFate> instructions unclear
17:36:27 <sgp_[m]> to those on Matrix, he do-opped rehrar on freenode lol
17:37:06 <sgp_> okay, something for rehrar to look at for planning the next meeting
17:37:10 <sgp_> 5. open ideas time
17:37:24 <sgp_> what else do you want to talk about today?
17:37:24 <cankerwort[m]> Lol
17:37:59 <cankerwort[m]> Monerotopia is pretty cool
17:38:10 <rehrar> O__o nobody ever comes to my meetings. But suddenly luigi1111w and others are here for sgp's
17:38:20 <hhyzsfavl> Look on the bright side. At least you don't need to obsess over signs of life from FUK now.
17:38:29 <luigi1111w> I only recently figured out it was his meeting
17:38:54 <kinghat[m]> thinks rehrar is playing hooky
17:38:59 <sgp_> ^ removed spam message on Discord and Matrix
17:39:30 <sgp_[m]> kinghat: how is it? I only joined one or two
17:39:31 <cankerwort[m]> The spam is relentless
17:39:34 <sgp_[m]> whoops, I meant cankerwort
17:39:50 <kinghat[m]> we are easy to confuse
17:40:06 <cankerwort[m]> They play Golden Balls
17:40:17 <cankerwort[m]> It's a good time
17:40:26 <rehrar> Everyone who touts the benefits of IRC clearly don't account for this spam and the inability to get rid of it.
17:40:37 <rehrar> Don't get me wrong, IRC is ok.
17:40:41 <sgp_[m]> cankerwort: they do it every Thursday right?
17:40:52 <rehrar> But Matrix is better. Maybe.
17:41:22 <kinghat[m]> mebbe
17:41:31 <cankerwort[m]> They have done a few Sundays but I think Thursday is the idea
17:41:57 <sgp_[m]> what about it is most fun? do a lot of people show up? is it just a fun conversation?
17:42:00 <intj440> DEF CON is not ruling out in-person con for 2021 https://defcon.org/html/defcon-29/dc-29-cfe.html
17:42:20 <kgsphinx> that's good news
17:42:31 <sgp_[m]> re defcon: I made a #monero-events channel for all event planning
17:42:51 <sgp_[m]> makes no sense imo to have -defcon, -ccc, monerokon, etc
17:43:14 <msvb-lab> sgp: That's good, but we have monero-defcon as well with twenty members?
17:43:30 <xmrscott[m]1> re: defcon though, Bsides LV is going virtual, so odds are not in favor of DC holding physical IMO, especially from what I've heard from the goon grapevine
17:43:49 <msvb-lab> Should we try to migrate to -events, and delete -defcon when nobody (unless duplicate) is on the channel?
17:43:58 <xmrscott[m]1> Yes
17:44:18 <intj440> Blackhat is hedging @ Mandalay Bay + virtual
17:45:22 <cankerwort[m]> It's a good conversation and random people jump in on the Jitsi chat
17:45:40 <cankerwort[m]> And the prize of the competition is based on the number of viewers
17:46:06 <cankerwort[m]> Monerotopia ^
17:46:14 <sgp_[m]> ty cankerwort, I'll try to catch the next one. It's great that there's another weekly activity :)
17:48:04 <sgp_> okay, last call for anything else meeting-related
17:48:56 <kinghat[m]> ive participated enough already, dont want to hurt rehrar feels
17:49:03 <kinghat[m]> 😘
17:49:09 <sgp_[m]> <3
17:50:19 <sgp_[m]> okay, meeting over then. thanks everyone for coming!
17:50:43 <sgp_[m]> join us for Monero Meet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYw31K-z4H4
17:50:43 <monerobux> [ Monero Meet 2021-03-06 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:50:53 <sgp_[m]> and DM me if you want to speak in voice
17:52:45 <msvb-lab> Thanks sgp, good meeting.
17:53:16 <binaryFate> thanks everyone!
18:00:18 <Shahzadeh> Great chat guys
18:46:17 <yroglodkzli> Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/