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dixie__flatline[
Oh shit youtube-dl repo on github got dmca'd
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dixie__flatline[
Bitcoin repo next /s
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dixie__flatline[
Mass exodus from github wen
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ErCiccione
I try again: Will this forum be hosted/maintained/administrated by the board of the LLC that was announced not long ago?
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midipoet
ErCiccione: I don't think so. This forum was announced as being operated by Core, and run/moderated by rehrar
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midipoet
That was my understanding
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ErCiccione
I don't know, i remember a mention of a forum when rehrar was still part of the LLC thing. So i don't know where things stand now
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midipoet
I don't think anyone knows except for the people involved in the LLC stuff
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midipoet
I think the forum was talk of some other place, similar to Reddit, but self hosted
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midipoet
Which was one of the main reasons for the LLC, as the LLC would maintain liability for the forum (and it's Directors and Shareholders tto some extent, one would think)
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msvb-mob
Reminder that the Monero Village (appearing at the Grayhat security conference 29-31 Oct 2020) has our last public staff meeting today at 17:00 UTC on this IRC channel (#monero-community.)
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ErCiccione
the LLC would maintain liability for the forum <- That's the main reason why i'm asking
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rehrar
ErCiccione: by monero space, yes. Not me. Not core.
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ErCiccione
Ok. Thanks for clarifying.
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ErCiccione
midipoet ^
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midipoet
ErCiccione: ah yes, I see what happened. I thought when you said "this forum", you meant here. Instead of "that forum", which means there ;-)
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midipoet
definitely feels forky
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ErCiccione
You are right, i was unclear
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msvb-mob
The last Monero Village staff meeting before Grayhat begins in about one hour (17:00 UTC) on this channel #monero-community.
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dixie__flatline[
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dixie__flatline[
Monero flag spotted
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asymptotically
what a bunch of morons. there was an anti-mask protest in my city too and they looked even dumber
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dixie__flatline[
Boo
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dixie__flatline[
Masks are dumb
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asymptotically
yes, not being selfish and not wanting to spread a virus to people is dumb
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dixie__flatline[
Lol
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dixie__flatline[
Masks can't stop the spread of such a virus.
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dixie__flatline[
You have your eyes exposed, you have your skin exposed
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dixie__flatline[
Masks are only good for preventing cough plus sneeze reaxhing other people
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dixie__flatline[
But we always coughed and sneezed before, and we used our inner elbows for that and not a maks
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asymptotically
even if it only helps a little bit, it's not like it hurts you in anyway to just put one on
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dixie__flatline[
Masks are way too weak of a prevention, and they are enforced way too forcefully.
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dixie__flatline[
It hurts me bro
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dixie__flatline[
I don't want to breathe in what I have breathed out
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dixie__flatline[
It decreases my fresh air intake
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dixie__flatline[
It also makes me sweat in it
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dixie__flatline[
It is also a literal microbe magnet
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dixie__flatline[
Touching it all day
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dixie__flatline[
And then touching your phone
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dixie__flatline[
Etc.
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dixie__flatline[
Don't decide on what I can do and can't do
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wowario[m]
it is more for minimizing the spread of droplets than protecting "you"
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wowario[m]
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monerobux
[ High speed camera captures how different types of face masks work - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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dixie__flatline[
The droplets spread anyways. We are more than 6 months into that virus. And we know that the mortality rate isn't as we feared in the beginning
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dixie__flatline[
The low mortality rate of this virus doesn't justify such draconian laws on masks and closing up of the economies.
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wowario[m]
wearing a mask is not that draconian
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dixie__flatline[
The whole state plus social enforcement around mask requirements are.
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dixie__flatline[
I don't want to be forced to wear a mask all day.
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dixie__flatline[
It is dumb.
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wowario[m]
i am actually happy it is more culturally acceptable to hide ones face in public
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dixie__flatline[
It is dumb that you have to wear a mask while ordering at a restaurant but you don't have to wear while eating.
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dixie__flatline[
It is inconsistent
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dixie__flatline[
And not rational
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dixie__flatline[
So it is obvious that the mask laws are not following reason and rationality. So what they are? Yet another angle in stifling personal freedoms. Yet another angle in the society dictating and micromanaging your life. Yet another angle in the state taking on more power over you.
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dixie__flatline[
Wake up people. It's not the damn plague.
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wowario[m]
countries that have a national mask policy/mask wearing culture tend to have lower spread and case count. Look at the statistics per million. and there is a general consensus in the science community that it does help.
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asymptotically
wowario[m]: my autistic feelings do not care about your facts!
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wowario[m]
on the personal freedoms point, freedom is not unlimited when you live in a society.
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wowario[m]
there are moral and legal norms that one should (or must) follow to be part of the social group.
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ErCiccione
Nonsense. If you are a free person you do whatever you want. Doesn't matter how many people die because you refuse to put a piece of cloth on your face. Wake up sheeple!!
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» ErCiccione doesn't want to live on this planet anymore
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wowario[m]
lol
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wowario[m]
nihilist!!!
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tficharmers
If covid-19 were to go away would pro-maskers continue to wear them to prevent the spreading of influenza?
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wowario[m]
i would continue to wear masks with or without covid-19 around
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wowario[m]
i like my privacy
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tficharmers
Oh. Did you wear one before covid-19?
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wowario[m]
yeah, at hacker conferences though
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dixie__flatline[
<wowario[m] "countries that have a national m"> Sweden bro
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dixie__flatline[
The mortality rate is so small. Most infected people are asymptomatic
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tficharmers
wowario[m] Right, well masks to protect privacy is a different proposition to spreading respiratory diseases. You probably should be free to cover your face whenever you want in public. It's your face.
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wowario[m]
bro, compare Sweden to other Scandinavian countries
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dixie__flatline[
Only elderly and people who have underlying health problems are under risk
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dixie__flatline[
But they are under risk anyways
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dixie__flatline[
<wowario[m] "bro, compare Sweden to other Sca"> I know. But still Sweden didn't have apocalypse bro
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dixie__flatline[
<tficharmers "If covid-19 were to go away woul"> THIS
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wowario[m]
the economy got more jacked up than it should have been
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dixie__flatline[
<wowario[m] "i like my privacy"> That's not the point bro
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dixie__flatline[
Medical mask mandate is the point
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dixie__flatline[
You can have your privacy by willingly wearing your scarf
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dixie__flatline[
The point is, I don't want the society and the gubbermint to dictate a medical mask
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wowario[m]
Only elderly and people who have underlying health problems are under risk > who gets them sick?
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dixie__flatline[
That is not a societal norm btw
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ErCiccione
Please. you are way offtopic
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dixie__flatline[
You go out in the country sjde
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dixie__flatline[
Literally nobody wears mask
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dixie__flatline[
<ErCiccione "Please. you are way offtopic"> Ok
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msvb-mob
The last Monero Village meeting before Grayhat (security conference) begins in about ten minutes on this channel #monero-community.
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dixie__flatline[
<tficharmers "wowario Right, well masks to pro"> +1
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tficharmers
But seriously, the arguments put forward for masks preventing the infection spread of covid-19 should also apply to other respiratory infections, so really "if it saves one life" then pro-maskers should continue to wear masks to prevent the spread of influenza after covid-19 dies down a bit. If not, then that's a bit hypocritical. Also, probably should drive a car too... if it saves one life of course.
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wowario[m]
#offtopic
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dixie__flatline[
Lol ok
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tficharmers
agreed
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msvb-mob
The last Monero Village meeting before Grayhat (security conference) begins in five minutes on #monero-community.
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msvb-mob
Hello to Monero Village staff and public bystanders, welcome to the last (5 of 5) Monero Village meeting before the Grayhat security conference begins.
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rehrar
Hi
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ArticMine
Hi
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msvb-mob
1. Introductions.
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msvb-mob
2. Grayhat review (all)
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ajs-mob1
hi
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msvb-mob
The conference begins 29 October and ends 31 October, is on the Grayhat discord server and follows the sched.io system.
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msvb-mob
The conference requires registration for some content, and costs money unless you are a speaker or village staff (free entrance.)
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msvb-mob
Any other general information for review?
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azy
deaths are not the only concern either. busy hospitals are bad for everyone
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rehrar
enough covid talk or kick
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intj440
hello
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msvb-mob
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msvb-mob
3. Secretary (msvb)
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msvb-mob
3a Administration news.
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msvb-mob
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msvb-mob
...may be good to read that. There is no urgency or surprises.
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msvb-mob
3b Discord staff ID harvest.
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msvb-mob
Whoever is a speaker or staff should give me their Discord ID (on the Grayhat server) if you want special village permissions.
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rehrar
remind me how to get the ID
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msvb-mob
I can get the information by meeting you online in our Monero Village Discord channel (of the Grayhat server) but I never see people in our channel.
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msvb-mob
rehrar: Right click on the face of a person (avatar) and if you have set developer mode in your Discord client you have the choice of reading the ID.
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msvb-mob
It is probably not a requirement (because they have not made comments about the ID) but the Defcon admins did make it a requirement. We are okay without IDs this time (unless it bothers you to not have extended permissions.)
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msvb-mob
Related to this, if anybody who is a speaker or staff did not receive their registration code to avoid paying money for the general access, please ask me and I'll give it to you again.
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msvb-mob
I sent the codes out yesterday, but some people maybe were not online.
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msvb-mob
Any questions before the next agenda topic (CFP)?
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rehrar
nope
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msvb-mob
4. CFP (xmrscott[m])
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rehrar
I'd like to take control of this topic if I may
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msvb-mob
Probably you can, xmrscott does not object does he?
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rehrar
seems not
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rehrar
give me one min and I'll speak. Sorry. :)
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msvb-mob
Okay, we have time I think. No hurry.
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xmrscott[m]
(I do not, sorry)
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rehrar
ok
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rehrar
so I've been contacting many people asking them if they'd be willing to speak.
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rehrar
I'm collecting their responses, and, if they choose to record, I will collect their videos and pass them on to Grayhat.
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rehrar
I realize this puts a delay on the schedule that I wanted up ASAP, but I think the extra content is worth it.
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rehrar
Of the dozen people I've contacted, three have confirmed, a few others will get back to me today or tomorrow, and haven't heard back from two.
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rehrar
The extra content will be helpful. Since we don't have another meeting, I will take charge of finalizing the schedule and giving it to the Grayhat people.
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rehrar
As I alluded to last week, I did indeed talk with two of the organizers on Discord a few days ago. They are aware I'm working on the schedule and that I will get it to them soon.
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msvb-mob
Thanks for the extra work, that's a big bonus to get at least three more presentations.
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msvb-mob
After all, we are in 'anything is better than nothing' mode.
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rehrar
while I'm talking I'll speak about the website as well. As stated last time, it's been changed for Grayhat and just awaiting the schedule. Nothing new to add on that front.
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rehrar
msvb-mob: it helps that we are the only blockchain related village
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rehrar
so I can be a little bit more general in my invitations to cover a few broader blockchain topics.
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msvb-mob
Your comment last week rehrar about leveraging the blockchain absence is quite valuable.
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msvb-mob
5. Website (rehrar)
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rehrar
already spoke on it. ;)
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msvb-mob
6. Operations (ajs)
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ajs-mob1
no updates
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msvb-mob
7. ArticMine
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msvb-mob
Any comments from you (if you are attending?)
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ArticMine
Yes. Do we want to have some community promotion. Reddit posts etc
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ArticMine
Let the communit know this is going on
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ArticMine
once we have an agenda finalized
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rehrar
I think we can tease that we'll be there to the community
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rehrar
and that the agenda is coming soon
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rehrar
and when the agenda is ready we share that too
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msvb-mob
What would be a list of promotion channels, flarum(forum), IRC, reddit, twitter?
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msvb-mob
Maybe needmoney90 wants to help promote on these antisocial media channels?
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rehrar
I'll do it.
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rehrar
I'll get them done today.
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msvb-mob
Okay 8. Communications (unassigned role) ...is actually all about promoting and providing communications like what we already are discussing.
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msvb-mob
Does intj440 have advice about promotion or communicating a basic idea about Monero during Grayhat?
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rehrar
If so, you feel free to message me. :)
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msvb-mob
An idea about promotion, when you access the Grayhat discord server, ensure that you have [MV] next to your name meaning you are staff and represent our village (rather than IoT or Blueteam.)
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rehrar
oh yes I'll put that back on
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intj440
A "save the dates" general announce might be good since most ppl are unaware of Grayhat's or MV Greyhat's existence
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msvb-mob
9. Music (all)
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msvb-mob
This is a topic I really cared about which has totally crashed, oh well.
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intj440
will pm rehrar re: how/when I'll contribute
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msvb-mob
Any comments about artwork, music, or other creativity before moving to 10 Subprojects?
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rehrar
ne
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msvb-mob
10. Subprojects
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msvb-mob
This is mostly following content such as what's proposed on
taiga.getmonero.org/project/michael-grayhat/us/2
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msvb-mob
...to prove that we are active and innovate.
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msvb-mob
But I think nobody is able to demonstrate a project they are working on, or?
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rehrar
correct
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msvb-mob
We are mostly done with the preplanned agenda topics. I guess...
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msvb-mob
11. Open ideas time
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msvb-mob
Do you have anything interesting to share ajs-mob1?
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ajs-mob1
not at this time
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msvb-mob
anhdres[m] Do you want to help ArticMine with his promotion to antisocial media idea with anything creative?
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rehrar
I was doing the promotion
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rehrar
and I'm an illustrator so things will be ok ;)
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rehrar
and I'll get anhdres[m] if I need help
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intj440
thx msvb-mob for your efforts
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msvb-mob
Very good, it will be very excellent if rehrar is making the promotion (art whatever) but wouldn't it be more fun with others involvement? Your choice in any case.
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rehrar
we don't have the time anymore msvb-mob
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rehrar
yes it would be more fun with other people involved, but the conference is in one week
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rehrar
and when we're short on time it's probably better that it just gets done
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ArticMine
Yes I agree
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intj440
at registration the level 2 "GA Expert Level" pass is sold out, anyone know if the GH folks will allocate more of this ticket type?
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msvb-mob
I thought there was just GA and VIP?
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intj440
well, here they list levels 0, 1, and 2 type tickets
grayhat.co/registration
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intj440
*level
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msvb-mob
Quite strange, because it's a online conference. Why would something sell out?
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msvb-mob
I'll ask the ones who invited us about it, do you int440 want me to report to you if they answer the question 'why is level 2 sold out?'
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intj440
sure, thx.
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intj440
maybe they are anticipating disappointment with the 15-minute "meet the expert" timeslots that seem to be promised with a level 2 ticket
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msvb-mob
Could be that or a cap on the workshop class size intj440. In any case, I've asked the admins so if it's a mistake they will probably correct the problem soon.
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intj440
oh also it seems that physical swag goes with level 2 "An event memorialized Patch and stickers"
eventbrite.com/e/grayhat-conference…s-cyber-summit-tickets-117352322957
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viperperidot[m]
What is monero village?
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msvb-mob
A Monero Devices badge is part of the swag package as well, maybe that's why these sell out?
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msvb-mob
That was a half joke, but who knows.
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msvb-mob
viperperidot[m] The village is where people with enough experience (min 2 months IRC) represent the Monero community.
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msvb-mob
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msvb-mob
And our next appearance is at the Grayhat security conference in one week (online.)
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viperperidot[m]
Cool I will check it out thanks
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msvb-mob
Does binaryFate or needmoney90 have any village ideas?
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msvb-mob
Or midipoet or sgp_ with village ideas?
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rehrar
alright, I have to leave. I'll read backlog. :)
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intj440
msvb-mob just registered w/level 1 so no need to get back to me re: level 2 tickets
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msvb-mob
Okay intj440. That doesn't help satisfy our curiosity, but it seems to not be a problem.
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ErCiccione
Shouldn't we have a community meeting today?
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ErCiccione
rehrar ^
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rehrar
yes, grabbing some breakfast before so I won't be too hungry
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msvb-mob
Then we can finish the last (5 of 5) Monero Village meeting early.
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msvb-mob
If you know a staff person who is unsure what they should be doing, I made a step by step guide:
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msvb-mob
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msvb-mob
Shall we end the meeting now? Is there a second vote for this ajs-mob1?
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ajs-mob1
okay
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msvb-mob
Thanks everyone for attending the meeting, and we'll see you later allighator during the Grayhat security conference on 29 October.
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ajs-mob1
thanks msvb-mob
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binaryFate
sorry missed meeting, little time atm
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msvb-mob
Little time, working hard or hardly working? I had vacation days, and I recommend it to you binaryFate.
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binaryFate
I wish I could take days off. That's my middle-term target.
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msvb-mob
binaryFate: Lot's of luck with that, we are all very curious to know of your progress on whatever project you're working on. But some of it is already obvious (like the email you sent out regarding the block height bug.) Thanks for doing that work.
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midipoet
msvb-mob: thanks for the offer and invite, but I am sort of done with online conferences/events, and never really got that enthused anyways, tbh. Sorry. Will be more involved when things can get physical with everyone again ;-)
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msvb-mob
That's definitely a valid interpretation midipoet, and if things improve (I'm a pessimist about this) then of course it will be great to see you again.
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rehrar
helloooooo everyone!
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rehrar
1. Say Hi
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rehrar
Who all is here for the community meeting?
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msvb-mob
Hello.
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ErCiccione
hi
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intj440
hello
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rehrar
ok. small crowd today but that's ok.
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rehrar
we'll just be quick
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rehrar
let's start with workgroup reports today
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rehrar
anyone who is in a leadership position in a workgroup, please feel free to chime in whenever with an update
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rehrar
lh1008[m] xmrhaelan, dEBRUYNE
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ArticMine
Hi
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viperperidot[m]
Hello
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rehrar
ErCiccione: I know you're here so you can update us if you want.
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rehrar
Pinging some others via pm.
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ErCiccione
Not much to report really. I posted an update about the website on reddit, but the bigger stuff was merged after i posted it :)
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ErCiccione
translations are open for everything (GUI and Website had been locked for some time)
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rehrar
Aight. Sounds good. I'll give another couple minutes for any other reports.
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rehrar
It seems this will be a short meeting. :)
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rehrar
Ok so.
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rehrar
Moving on to CCS.
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rehrar
there is no new proposals besides ones already discussed
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rehrar
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rehrar
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rehrar
compilation time reduction
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rehrar
and bp+
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msvb-mob
Flarum forum status? Is it sgp that has this information?
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rehrar
it's being worked on. They just had an update a couple of days ago (when we deployed actually)
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rehrar
and so some of the useful extensions are still updating
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rehrar
to the new version
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rehrar
it will probably be a week or two before we go beyond soft launch
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rehrar
erm, open ideas time then? :D
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rehrar
lol ok
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rehrar
anything to discuss by anyone at all?
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rehrar
then I guess we'll call it here
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rehrar
thanks for coming everyone
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rehrar
hopefully two weeks from now we'll have cool things to discuss
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msvb-mob
Thanks rehrar, chao.
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rehrar
but a lull in activity is typical after a release
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nioc
rehrar: there is a CCS currently open for funding
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vtnerd-2020-q4.html
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rehrar
yes but ones that are already open don't really need to be discussed by us
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nioc
just illuminated
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TheCharlatan
Would be nice to pump vtnerd's proposal on reddit a bit, if anybody feels like making a post.
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sethsimmons
I can do that!
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sethsimmons
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monerobux
[REDDIT] Let’s get vtnerd’s proposal funded! (
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vtnerd-2020-q4.html) to r/Monero | 1 points (100.0%) | 1 comments | Posted by fort3hlulz | Created at 2020-10-24 - 18:29:22
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anhdres[m]
<rehrar "and when we're short on time it'"> Sorry I missed the meeting msvb-mob but rehrar is right. Ping me if course if anything is needed anyways.
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nioc
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sethsimmons
I summoned the whales
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sethsimmons
I’m quite fluent in whale
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Inge-
You and Dory