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xmr-pr
[css-proposals] xiphon opened pull request #157: xiphon part-time coding
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xmr-pr
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kinghat[m]
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niocbrrrrrr
out of stock
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niocbrrrrrr
can't purchase with monero
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sethsimmons
Might have gotten aantonop to add Monero to his shop/site 🧐
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sethsimmons
Thanks to all who made the merchants page on monerooutreach
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niocbrrrrrr
sethsimmons: as for your comparison of a btc "private" tx vs a mooonero tx, the other comparison is how long on avg does a tx take
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sethsimmons
Ah yes, need to add that to my list of things to compare next for “private spends”
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sethsimmons
Here’s the to-do list:
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sethsimmons
But I also would like to add Wasabi/JoinMarket to get a better picture of overall stats for Bitcoin mixing tools.
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sgp_
nice
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sgp_
I assume he uses BTCPay?
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sethsimmons
Seems like it from the responses
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sethsimmons
But I haven't verified myself
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charuto
woah nice one seth
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charuto
are you into dad jokes sethsimmons ?
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sethsimmons
I hate them with a fiery passion
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sethsimmons
:P
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charuto
ever considered changing your name to sxmrsimmons?
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sethsimmons
How is that a dad joke?
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sethsimmons
HOW
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sethsimmons
Maybe I don't want to know
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charuto
xmr > eth
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sethsimmons
Not a bad idea though so people don't think I'm an Eth shill 😅
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sethsimmons
<charuto "xmr > eth"> well played sir
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jwinterm
lol
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sethsimmons
I can't help but pronounce that "sexmrsimmons" in my head
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sethsimmons
Idk if I like Monroe THAT much
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charuto
sex mr simmons
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charuto
not as great as mr sex simmons
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sethsimmons
I can't unsee that
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charuto
but i like that
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sethsimmons
<charuto "not as great as mr sex simmons"> New Twitter nick incoming
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charuto
lmao
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dsc_
This will be a stupid question but that's okay because I don't understand crypto
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dsc_
GUI has Advanced -> Sign/Verify, where you can sign (text/file) messages
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dsc_
I wonder if it's possible to send *encrypted* messages to a specific Monero recipient/address
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dsc_
kind of like pgp I suppose
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sethsimmons
Couldn’t you encrypt a message in tx_extra?
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sethsimmons
Would probably require manual construction though
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sethsimmons
To use it like an encrypted memo field
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dsc_
sorry, forgot to mention that this would be over a seperate channel
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dsc_
so not using the blockchain
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sethsimmons
Oh, not on-chain?
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dsc_
nope
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sethsimmons
Huh
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sethsimmons
You’d have to know their node address
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sethsimmons
Then
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sethsimmons
And do it over p2p
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dsc_
Lets say you only have their Monero address
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sethsimmons
I think
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midipoet
could you do it direct node to node throught the GUI?
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dsc_
would it be possible somehow to send an encrypted message to a specific monero addr
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dsc_
using your priv8 key
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sethsimmons
Where do you send it if not on-chain and not direct?
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dsc_
the network protocol involved is irrelevant atm I think
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sethsimmons
You could generate it for sure
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midipoet
Sure, but the node IP is the destination address. Just has to be over a side channel (obvs privacy implications)
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dsc_
lets say you have a different channel, bitmessage or otherwise
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dsc_
and its integrated in your wallet
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midipoet
so just signing with your key, that's it
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dsc_
signing would not be enough when your chat goes through a centralized thing
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midipoet
And shuffling down some pipe somewhere, according to some p2p protocol
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dsc_
signing is basically "I wrote this"
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dsc_
but it will be cleartext
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dsc_
hence my encryption question
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jwinterm
I am pretty sure you could encrypt a message with your private viewkey or spendkey, but then anyone with the public key could decrypt it
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jwinterm
but I am no mathologist
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needmoney90
We call them mathographers actually jwinterm
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dsc_
ETA mathographer
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sarang
You could include a MAC of some kind
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sarang
for integrity
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sarang
but you're wondering specifically about encryption?
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sarang
You could use something like ECIES
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dsc_
sarang: oof, ok. thanks.
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sarang
Functionality could be added
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dsc_
sarang: The GUI has:
i.imgur.com/zqF3Imk.png - my idea was to add an extra inputbox: "recipient address" which would be a Monero address and only him would be able to decrypt it
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dsc_
But I don't know how complicated that would be to add
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dsc_
the fact we can do signing is cool as it is, though
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dsc_
This would allow third-party wallets to host a centralized chat service without being able to mitm the chat messages
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dsc_
and for users: you'll be able to chat with owners of Monero addresses
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dsc_
(or people could also use bitmessage for a decentralized alternative)
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dsc_
which could be handy in retail - have a conversation with the person you're paying
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sarang
Just a paste-the-address kind of thing?
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sarang
That's doable