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hyc
awesome
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xmrscott[m]
Aha! Website probably found. Presumed price seem reasonable :)
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hyc
how many bottles from 1 cask?
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infinitejest-
500
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hyc
cool
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infinitejest-
xmrscott[m]: it will be more expensive than their standard offering I'm afraid
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xmrscott[m]
Of that I have no doubt. I imagine it would probably be 28-50euro
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xmrscott[m]
The only question is if the ordine minimo applies in this case
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infinitejest-
1 bottle is minimum
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infinitejest-
but there will be a max per person
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hyc
I will drink no winery before its time
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hyc
oh, it's time
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infinitejest-
lol
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niocbrrrrrr
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infinitejest-
error 405 niocbrrrrrr
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FM20xmr
Will details on when ordering is live be made public here? I love this
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niocbrrrrrr
infinitejest-: must be blocked by region
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xmrscott[m]
I get no 405. Maybe a country code thing
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infinitejest-
maybe my VPN
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niocbrrrrrr
showing bottle reduced from $250 to $219
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xmrscott[m]
I'm running a US based VPN FWIW
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xmrscott[m]
Or I should say, node is US based
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hyc
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infinitejest-
FM20xmr: yes I'll post here and on monero reddit I guess
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niocbrrrrrr
there is a wide difference in prices, the vintage year only indicates potential
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xmrscott[m]
I wonder if anyone will ever make a Monero themed mead... I would buy so many bottles (if I could)
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niocbrrrrrr
and 2014 had great potential
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FM20xmr
infinitejest-Sounds great
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hyc
hmmmmmm I just hooked up with a mead company in Ireland a couple days ago
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infinitejest-
you first have to accidentally be a little drunk and create the meme by glitching IRC bridges xmrscott[m]
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hyc
true
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infinitejest-
.barolo
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monerobux
I just opened a 2004 barolo in your and all the devs honor --
i.ytimg.com/vi/-JvdfsIeb-s/hqdefault.jpg
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hyc
without the meme, it's just mead
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selsta
I once bought a 2004 Barolo for 50€
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selsta
but drank it already :(
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xmrscott[m]
.mead
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infinitejest-
^^
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infinitejest-
selsta: was it as heavy as the one I had....I was so tipsy after 2 glasses
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xmrscott[m]
hyc: Good one meadery I trust? What's the name if I may be so bold?
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hyc
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selsta
infinitejest-: yea I remember it being strong lol
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xmrscott[m]
Ah bummer, they don't ship to the US southwest
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infinitejest-
I wonder how anyone still ships alcoholics to the US. The regulations are a joke
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hyc
irish couriers can't do it at all
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infinitejest-
the winery and I seriously contemplated to exclude the US after some first probes
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xmrscott[m]
Well glad that didn't end up happening
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infinitejest-
we'll try although some states have to stay excluded
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infinitejest-
I'm still finding out which exactly
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xmrscott[m]
Ok, good to know
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infinitejest-
so far I'm only certain on Illinois...some law that says only registered wine importers can receive wine from abroad, not private persons
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niocbrrrrrr
so get a "distributor" in the US
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infinitejest-
niocbrrrrrr: I know but is it worth the hassle for the limited amount of bottles I have?
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niocbrrrrrr
quotes mean only cost is extra shipping
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niocbrrrrrr
which probably results in the same outcome
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infinitejest-
hm?
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infinitejest-
I just dug out this pic from when the wineyard owners invited us to lunch after the "business"
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infinitejest-
from 1 PM to 4 PM lol
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infinitejest-
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FM20xmr
infinitejest-That is so cool :) I love that
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infinitejest-
they are so wholesome and happy, it was heartwarming
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infinitejest-
200 years in the same business
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infinitejest-
shoulda posted the before pic first
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infinitejest-
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infinitejest-
and while we're at it this is the village of Barolo in the valley:
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infinitejest-
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xmrscott[m]
Population of 750 as of 2009
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rehrar
I will stream SCP game if people would find that fun
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rehrar
xmrscott[m]: join meh
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xmrscott[m]
rehrar: On a walk w/ fam atm, sorry :(
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rehrar
nuuu
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xmrscott[m]
Gotta enjoy this weird week and a half spell where it's cool enough to dine outside and stroll about before it hits 110 by the end of the week :S
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kinghat[m]
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endogenic
y'all are going to be like
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endogenic
wut
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endogenic
i'm slightly lucky to know this but i dont actually subscribe to the bullshit asymmetry principle. it may be easier to make up bullshit than be correct but the statement that the community is more easily fooled by bullshit than the truth (the effect of refuting it) is actually a statement that the community is more than 50% ignorant and that they lack the ability to tell facts from a story in passing
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endogenic
so "Brandolini's law" is no law at all
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endogenic
it assumes an open, global system in which there will be more people you can fool
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endogenic
but the influx of people to monero is limited, and we also have quite the sticking power, so that works to my advantage
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endogenic
not only can individuals confirm things for themselves and decide on their own, but there are certain things that can refute a lot of bullshit at once
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endogenic
more powerful you might say
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endogenic
no matter how much bs is published - no matter how many senseless experiences i go through or how many times i'm lied to, it's not going to convince me to give up on right and wrong
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endogenic
there are people out there in this community who do still know right and wrong
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endogenic
or who value it
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endogenic
i'm not so stupid as to go online, knowingly stake my reputation after having run a very complicated company quite well despite al kinds of fuckery
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endogenic
and then post a bunch of lies
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endogenic
there were one or two minor mistakes
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endogenic
but wake up sheeple :)
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midipoet
i think of these "laws" are actually "adages"
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endogenic
laws can be perceived though
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endogenic
they just need to turn a constant to a variable there
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endogenic
or maybe a function
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midipoet
no, laws are written in legal frameworks
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endogenic
the "fixed point" was "assuming an open system"
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endogenic
that's one kind of law lol
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endogenic
laws are written in laws sometimes too
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endogenic
:P
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endogenic
like here's a law
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endogenic
"if you assume the axiom of choice then x, y, and z are definite consequences and you cant change that"
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endogenic
it's not made up by men
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endogenic
only the choice of axiom is
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endogenic
but alas
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endogenic
maybe that's too abstract for this chatroom
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endogenic
i'd rather talk about monero stuff anyway
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endogenic
like you and i can talk
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asymptotically
monero? never heard of him!
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endogenic
if we talk for 10 minutes and i give you all kinds of info
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endogenic
and someone comes along and says 10 minutes of less substantial info
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endogenic
the things you confirmed will remain
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endogenic
manero?
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endogenic
monroe?
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endogenic
count montenegro 3rd?
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endogenic
midipoet: maybe you were just trying to show brandolini's law
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endogenic
cause you said something weird
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endogenic
*makes a mark*
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midipoet
*I*(?!) said something weird?
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endogenic
hahaha let's say out of character from what you've represented
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endogenic
but maybe not
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endogenic
we have to be so careful how we categorize things
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endogenic
we need to check everything very carefully.... ourselves
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endogenic
one of the easiest things for a third party to do is make us doubt someone
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endogenic
especially when we dont want what that person says to be true :P
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endogenic
bec ause it sucks
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endogenic
even if there is a good path out of it
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endogenic
if we assume men can write human laws laws (or that we can only write adages - can't arrive at natural laws)
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endogenic
-laws
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endogenic
then the notion we cant write laws is self contradictory
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endogenic
because we dont know if we can or not
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endogenic
greed is one of the things that can distort worldviews
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endogenic
greed comes in different forms
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endogenic
sometimes it comes in the form of wanting someone to agree with us before conceding what they want, or even not reciprocating due to believing the other doesn't deserve fairness
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midipoet
good point about natural/physical laws. i stand corrected.
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midipoet
having said that, i am not sure if the same applies to sociological/psychological phenomenon - but happy to be corrected.
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endogenic
information theory underlies physics, realistically
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endogenic
it's the next step
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endogenic
we work by the same things
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endogenic
and the same rules apply
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endogenic
i can spend a lot of effort personally in order to set every possible counterargument right
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endogenic
meanwhile it only takes people's imagination to come up with likely sounding but very, very wrong counterarguments
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midipoet
i see that Law can also be passed down by God. so yeah - anything goes
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endogenic
and one person to be like yeah doubt him he asks you for something
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midipoet
So by that token, Brandolini's Law is probably allowed?
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endogenic
he wants you to do something for yourself like exercise or study or meditation which is hard so, doubt… it's easier
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endogenic
yes it exists but it's not a Law
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endogenic
it's an insult to the community
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endogenic
it says you guys are dumb
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endogenic
you wont check
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endogenic
you will be fooled by the same thing
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endogenic
you dont value yourselves
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midipoet
how can you prove that, if Law's can be passed down by God - or apply to Information Theory (as we have already agreed)
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midipoet
*Laws
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endogenic
sorry but i'm talking about Monero here.
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endogenic
you're free to ping me.
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midipoet
would, but have to work. enjoy
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endogenic
LOL
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endogenic
anyway guys there's a lot of BS out there
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endogenic
why do you think that is
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midipoet
because the truth (whatever that is) is difficult to understand for most (if not all) people
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endogenic
that's not really true
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endogenic
here's another interesting point
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endogenic
when someone sees something as it really is, it
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endogenic
's really difficult for them to lie about it
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endogenic
when someone cant see things, it's really difficult or impossible for them to speak of things as they are
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endogenic
if someone can lie so much then how close to the truth were they
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endogenic
did they observe it as things developed, were they involved
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midipoet
i always thought things were relative. most single points of determination being some multi-axis intersubjective point of reflection.
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endogenic
the truth means facts as they are
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endogenic
if you are going to debate the existence of facts, we dont operate in the same world
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endogenic
or maybe i can be told facts dont exist so people can do whatever they want
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endogenic
wake. up.
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endogenic
truth does come out
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endogenic
it's usually a long time later though
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camthegeek
pitchforks out! we don't agree!
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endogenic
it's a fact "such and such said this"
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endogenic
haha good
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endogenic
you'll need them
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shillo
I prefer alternative facts
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endogenic
personally i dont like getting played
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endogenic
i used to give people the benefit of the doubt a lot
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endogenic
it's normal to believe what someone tells you with a straight face i think
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endogenic
but anyway, i expected the result
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endogenic
what do you think i've been so worried about
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endogenic
it's funny, thinking about it in retrospect
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endogenic
it really boggles my mind how fucked up and convoluted it is
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endogenic
that's the only way it would have worked, too
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endogenic
obviously
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endogenic
how about this
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endogenic
every person i've told has had their mouth drop open
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endogenic
i want to give the community reasons to uncover the truth
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endogenic
time is also a factor
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endogenic
how you accept what happens is based on how you feel now
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endogenic
i ask the community to be aware
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endogenic
matter of fact refuting bullshit is about as easy as publishing cryptographic proofs, records, receipts, …
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endogenic
even if it sucks because of personal danger
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endogenic
you all get to choose what you have in the future
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endogenic
presenting you with narratives is to constrain what you think you can choose
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endogenic
i was correct years ago when i said monero is most vulnerable to social attacks
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endogenic
for what it's worth, nothing was particularly unexpected in the reaction from some people
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endogenic
but i didn't expect people to lie that badly
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endogenic
it doesnt matter to me but i'm here to let you know :)
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endogenic
and for what it's worth, i, personally, am most certainly am facing legal issues
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endogenic
only after making decisions after being lied to extensively
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endogenic
i'm fine, don't worry
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endogenic
it's pretty much all bs anyway
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endogenic
but the community has a choice here
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endogenic
which is interestingly, what i wrote in my post
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endogenic
i
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endogenic
'ma focus back on building now
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endogenic
i was also called a thief hahahah
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endogenic
just realized
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endogenic
ok
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endogenic
look at this shameless misspelling of monero
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endogenic
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sunnuc[m]
> look at this shameless misspelling of monero
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sunnuc[m]
Where?
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asymptotically
where can i spend my manjaros?
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xmrmatterbridge
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xmrmatterbridge
<rbrunner7> Blame the shameless misspelling of Monero on the Africans then
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endogenic
i remember ubuntu
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endogenic
the sentiment i mean
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» xmrscott[m] is very confused
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xmrscott[m]
Is someone trying to burn endogenic?
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endogenic
i'll be ok
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» xmrscott[m] sees nothing particularly crazy on subreddit
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endogenic
indeed
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endogenic
dont worry
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xmrscott[m]
Ah, something to do with the CCS I take it? :(
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xmrscott[m]
Given the page not found
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xmrscott[m]
Whatever is I imagine the channel regulars have endogenic 's back if there's any aid one could provide
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endogenic
they do not
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endogenic
sound the alarms
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endogenic
i'm going into hiding virtually
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endogenic
i dont know who to trust
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endogenic
except a small number
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endogenic
time to get this shit done
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endogenic
i always knew
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endogenic
i'm a survivor. been training for this i guess
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endogenic
and this isnt a stunt fwiw
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endogenic
all this shit is real
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endogenic
anyway
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endogenic
time to stfu
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endogenic
i'm the one with the secret ideas
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endogenic
funny how so many people claimed i could trust them just to get info
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xmrscott[m]
Alright, best of luck with your ideas. Shame about all the legal drama, hopefully you're able to sort through it quickly endogenic so you can focus on stuff of interest
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xmrscott[m]
(And be in a better place env/emotionally. I can only begin to imagine the stress compounded by a pandemic)