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hyc
it's your time to use as you see fit. but yeah in general, I wouldn't do such a task for a profit-making venture without a contribution back
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hyc
could argue that whatever they're trying to build off of only exists because the Monero community funded its creation
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hyc
and it always rubs me the wrong way to see private enterprises profit without contributing
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sarang
Thanks for the input, everyone
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Monis
hi everyone. I am reaching out on behalf of the Greek Cryptocurrency Community. We have talked in the past about doing a meet up . We started talking with Mastering Monero sponsoring it but it did not work eventually. We would like to investigate any interest from other sponsors. This will be an online meet up in the start of June.
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Monis
The total cost is involved is relatively small. Happy to show work from our previous meet ups with Komodo, Zcash , Cardano, Tezos, Sys etc as proof of work.
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Monis
We are looking at doing a Monero meet up obviously
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Inge-
Cool
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Inge-
Were any of your other meetups also online ones?
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Monis
all of them
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Monis
oh sorry
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Monis
all the previous were done with guests turning up on our locations
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Monis
in Athens and Thessaloniki
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Monis
we just had 1 online meet up last week.. we will release the video today
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Monis
This is going to be our second online meet up
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anonboy
hey hey
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Monis
hey :)
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Monis
Here is some proof of work from our latest meet up. I will have the video available tonight if anyone wants to verify
meetup.com/Greek-Cryptocurrency-com…55&comment_table_name=event_comment
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Monis
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monerobux
[ greek cryptocurrency community meetup - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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anonboy
it is the 1 first may and on the website I can't find any link to the Monero Means Money film anymore. Would like to show it to my Grandma because she is one of the few listening to me in my familiy
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Monis
We would like to do something similar for Monero... 2-3 speeches... 1 guy has to be someone from the Monero Community... we will add a couple of more educational speeches..
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Monis
Once the meet up is done, it gets uploaded on Youtube.
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anonboy
thank bro :]
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anonboy
*thanks
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Monis
IF there is anyone willing to sponsor this, please let us know by emailing us at greekcryptocurrencycommunity⊙gc
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Monis
We will obviously add logos on the banner and everything.
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Monis
The cost is relatively small
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ErCiccione
Monis: Why do you need a sponsor? consider opening a CCS proposal btw. I'm having a deja vu, so i think this was already discussed in past
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Monis
yes... we dont have much time... and we are not very sure how to do this
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Monis
We want to avoid doing it after the start of June as summer vacation kicks in....
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Monis
We thought that speaking to a sponsor would be faster
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selsta
ErCiccione: I also remember the same story from from a few months ago.
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Monis
and that there are a lot of potential sponsors
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ErCiccione
How much funding do you need? How are he funds going to be used?
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Monis
yes... we paused our meet ups due to Corona... but we now have the know how of doing it online so...
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Monis
we need 30 EUR for the banners, say another 20 for zoom and say another 70 for our expiring meetup.com subscription. looking at 120 EUR
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ErCiccione
selsta: yeah, i think it parkled the discussion "for what reasons should people open a CCS"
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Monis
people were divided on this on whether CCS was the right route or not at the time
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selsta
Monis: use jitsi
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Monis
Jitsi... ?
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selsta
no zoom required :)
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Monis
oh :)
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Monis
we ll look it up... its just that... you know.. the moment is important... and we dont want to screw things up
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ErCiccione
Ok so you don't need funding for the meeting, you need fundings for your expiring meetup subscription, mostly. I think a CCS is good for that
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Monis
but we are mindfull of the privacy concerns.. therefore everybody else will join Youtube live.. for questions on the chat
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Monis
ErCiccione well.. obviously.. the meetup.com thingy will be used on our Monero meet up as well.
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Monis
So ErCiccione that is not exactly correct
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ErCiccione
yes, sure, but i guess that will cover an yearly subscriptionof something like that. So the request is mostly: we need fundings for the meetup.com subscription, which is fine IMO
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Monis
well... we are not going to argue over 60 EUR....
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Monis
We just want someone to help us in our cause. and our cause.. is an online Monero Meet up
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Monis
but thank you for the suggestion ErCiccione
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ErCiccione
Why argue? i'm just summing the situation up. You would be asking for: 30 for banners and 70 for the meetup.com subscripton. I think that could be Ok for a CCS. I'm definitely not willing to supprot the funding of a privacy invasive service like zoom, especially when there are excellent free and open source alternatives
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ErCiccione
as i sai, it's a good use case for the CCS, feel free to open a proposal
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Monis
I respect that ErCiccione. I hope it is clear that only the speakers and our admins would be joining zom.
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Inge-
Monis: is the most important need the money or speakers?
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Monis
we need both Inge-.
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Inge-
The money amount is fairly small - and if you already have a name in the national scene, you could do a fundraiser on your site - And if it also had a monero address, you might have some people in the monero community who would chip in a few bucks. I'd kind of think that a CCS is a bit slow to get through the system?
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Monis
I had no intention to argue ErCiccione. Just respectfully disagreeing :) We are more than happy to look at other software as per the community's suggestions. We are not narrow minded and we are aware of the ZOOM issues
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ErCiccione
disagreeing with what? i think i'm lost
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ErCiccione
I'd kind of think that a CCS is a bit slow to get through the system? <- inge- yeah, agree. A simple address + QR would be the faster way
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Monis
Disagreeing on the fact that this is a meet up for us to cover our meetup.com subscription. This is a meet up to show monero to our audience.
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Inge-
I'll contribute something via a Monero address
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Inge-
Regarding speakers, Monero has an Outreach workgroup, and there is always Rehrar who is awesome about talking about WHY Monero (But timezones could be challenging)
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Monis
Thanks Inge-. Appreciate the positivity here.
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ErCiccione
? I never said that's a meetup made to cover the meetup.com subscription. I simply said what you are asking is to cover the meetup.com subscription
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Monis
ok.. thats perfect. Thanks rehrar
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Inge-
I can't promise rehrar, I'm just saying that he is great at promoting Monero and often enjoys doing it. I have no control over his time :D
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Monis
I understand Inge-.
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Inge-
But lots of other people can speak - and it depends on what you want the focus to be?
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Monis
is he on twitter?
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Monis
we want to present Monero to everyone who does not know it....
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Monis
we are doing this to make sure people stay away from garbage.
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Monis
Monero HAS to be heard
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Inge-
he is in this channel, but likely asleep now. Also easy to find on the Monero Telegram groups. HE is on Twitter as @ofthesalazar
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Monis
perfect
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Inge-
There is a youtube video from 2014 that is a pretty cool primer for monero (has nothing to do with monero). Panopticoin
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Monis
super
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Inge-
There are also a few animated videos that describe the different elements of Monero in easy to understand byte-size chunks:
youtube.com/channel/UCnjUpT9gGxyQ_lud7uKoTCg
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Monis
regarding fundraising... that is something we have not done in the past in the form of QR... and I am not sure this is the route we would prefer to take but appreciate the suggestions guys. Preferably, since our talks with Mastering Monero failed, we would like to go get in touch with Cake Wallet or something... as we don't have much time for a
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monerobux
[ Monero - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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Monis
CCS... as you said... the process would not be fast enough.
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Monis
good stuff Inge- all this helps.
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Monis
Anyone knows who is the person to speak to at Cake Wallet ? I think that was the 2nd alternative that we were looking at back at the time
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Inge-
re Cake Wallet: maybe @vikrants on Telegram, or @CakewalletXMR on Twitter?
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Monis
Inge- you are the real MVP
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Inge-
But putting up a fundraiser for your own community, and possibly posting about your upcoming XMR meetup on the Monero subreddit, being quite honest and upfront about what you need funding for and making it easy for Monerians to toss you a little support, might be faster/easier than doing sponsorships (Monero as a community is quite familiar with donation-based funding...) - But Cake Wallet is a
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Inge-
decent candidate
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camthegeek
I'd place a bet on a CCS request for this being funded faster than finding a sponsor. Who knows how much time you've wasted by trying to find a sponsor already when a CCS request could sit and get funded in between finding sponsors :P
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selsta
I also don’t know why you would want to waste $20 on Zoom when Jitsi does the same for free while being open source.
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ErCiccione
A sponsor for 100 euros? when literally any other alternative would be better and no time to open a CCS, but they contacted the community the first time months ago, already looking for a sponsor. I smell fish 😉
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ErCiccione
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monerobux
[ John McAfee on Twitter: "Does anyone else see the insanity of virtually all of crypto being tied to the value of Bitcoin? Why for example, should Monero, whose value is its Privacy, be tied in any wa ] - twitter.com
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ErCiccione
mccafee full shilling monero on every comment he is making
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Monis
selsta I think we tried it and something did not work as expected... I am not sure of the details
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Monis
ErCiccione what do you mean you smell Fish ?
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Monis
A moment ago you did not want to argue...
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Monis
plus you agreed yourself that opening a CCS would be slow.
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Monis
we received 3 times the ammount for all our meet ups which took place in 2 physical locations... and we delivered. There is videos for that.
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Monis
We contacted the community 2 months ago and changed our plans due to Corona Virus. Which part of this, is not clear enough ErCiccione?
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ErCiccione
What makes you think that i want to argue with you? I just have the feeling there is something you are not sayin. The approach you are taking doesn't make any sense to me, but hey. To each their own. Also, i really don't like your tone, so i'm done. Good luck.
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Monis
camthegeek yes... we will now consider this option... To be clear its not that it took us ages to find a sponsor... its just that we stopped searching for one after 1 week because Corona changed everything.. Now we are picking it up from where we left it
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Monis
ErCiccione " I smell Fish" is not a nice thing to say and I have the feeling that you do this to all newcomers.. This is toxic behaviour. The approach is in line with the fact that we want this to happen in a month and when things are done by volunteers they are done at their pace.
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Monis
We may not have 2 weeks to wait for a CCS. This is the reason we reached out to sponsors.
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Monis
And I am happy to explain everything that does not make sense.
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ErCiccione
Lol seriously? "you have the suspect", so you basically dont know, you are assuming things based on info you don't have. That's just stupid. I'm not even answering to the rest.
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Monis
Not here to make a scene, but not here to be insulted by ErCiccione. Thankfully, everyone else has been nice.. and I therefore really want to thank Inge-, selsta, and camthegeek for your constructive comments
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selsta
No one insulted you, you just joined the channel and were really demanding with wanting donations now, which immediately makes it suspicious.
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Monis
so.. Monero community... thank you for your input.. I am trully grateful for your help... goodbye to everyone , except for 1 person.
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Monis
selsta I would like to clear all those supsicions
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ErCiccione
Lol
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Monis
Please express your concerns.
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Monis
I want to come clean here, whatever the case
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selsta
Good luck finding a sponsor. I would recommend you to use Jitsi so that you save a bit on Zoom costs.
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» selsta afk
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Monis
selsta I promise, I will take your suggestion very very seriously
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Monis
you have a point
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Monis
We will start testing this asap...
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dEBRUYNE
Be aware that the internet can often lead to statements getting misinterpreted
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TrasherDK1
I'm with ErCiccione on this one. He did not come across as a nice guy.
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Mochi101
Hmmm
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azy
he's likely not a native speaker
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Monis
he is not azy.
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Monis
I am sorry you feel this way TrasherDK1.
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azy
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monerobux
[ CryptoCapitalist Greece - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
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azy
seems fairly popular with positive comments
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Monis
its not mine azy. its our Youtuber's Channel
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Monis
and all our meet ups are uploaded there
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Monis
our youtuber is one of the community's admins
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ErCiccione
Funny how this became a "who was nice with who" situation. I made some questions, he answered suspicioulsy aggresively and most of the things he is saying don't make sense. That's enough for me to not trust the guy.
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Monis
whats not to trust with all this proof of work ErCiccione?
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azy
i imagine the guy just wants to earn some crypto for his efforts
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Monis
This guy represents a community on Telegram which has done many meet ups in the past. There is evidence for all this in the links that I have provided.
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Monis
Not a single soul is making a cent out of this.
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Monis
this is all community effort, as it has been for the last 2 years that our meet ups are taking place.
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Mochi101
You guys need some pillows or something?
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ErCiccione
alright, i'm falling for it: You are contacting the monero community to fund your meetup about Monero, but your request for refunds is weird at best. You claim you are volunteers an you don't make a cent out of this, but you are asking for 30 euros for people to make banners, which is one of the most basic things that any volunteer can do for free and 30 euros are not going to funda graphic. You are also asking
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ErCiccione
for 60 euros to renovate your meetup.com subscription, which is not monero related and cherry on the top, you ask people even to pay zoom for you, when many pointed out there are open source alternatives. You first said you tested jitsi and found problems, then that you still have to test jitsi. When i pointed out that you are mostly requesting people to pay your meetup subscription, you claimed i was offending
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ErCiccione
you, which is a suspiscious behaviour.
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azy
swimming trunks?
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ErCiccione
So, Monis, you are either hiding something or your community really needs to find a better PR person
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Mochi101
Gib Monis
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Mochi101
I need Monis
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Monis
ErCiccione I imagine you are trying to imply that we manage to fool Zcash, Cardano, Tezos and some other people.... ok I will answer that and then I think I am done with the insults.. 1) yes we pay for banners , we don't know anyone within the admins' team who can do it that well. 2) the 60 EUR represents the MAINTENANCE of our meetup.com subscr..
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Monis
(something we will use for our Monero meetup as well) 3) The technical set up is not something that is done by me. I was told there was issues.
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Monis
OK fine...
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Monis
Thank you for your help everyone.
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ErCiccione
i'm starting to think you don't know the meaning of "insult" at this point. I'm trying to be as clear as i can: it's fine if you want to ask people to pay for your meetup subscription. Clear that? it's -> OK <- . if you reread what i wrote before, i was pointing out that it was ok and i was suggesting the best way to get funded before you started to feel offended for reasons to me unknown
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ErCiccione
i admit i'm not famous for my diplomacy, but jesus christ, nothing of what you said make any sense and your contacticting claims and gratuiutus insult don't help your cause.
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i_a
Hello all, I would like to share a big news, we have working blockchain scanning on our hardware wallet:
rmxwallet.io/rmxwallet_scanning.jpeg
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i_a
(I hope you see the picture)
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i_a
It's a picture of a stagenet wallet, with some testing in and out Tx's.
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i_a
(I am talking about full scanning inside our HW - no viewkey leaking. All txs are fed through the RMX device)
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sgp_
Monero Means Money premieres for FREE in a few hours:
twitter.com/MoneroMovie/status/1256228374256762881
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monerobux
[ Monero Means Money on Twitter: "Monero Means Money, the #2 film for the weekend of April 10, premieres for FREE at 3pm CT (10pm CEST)! Watch the feature film documentary here:
t.co/Va2Y2r6nSP ] - twitter.com
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selsta
i_a: nice :) you might also want to post this on reddit
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i_a
We are talking with my friend now about it.
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i_a
Basically we would like to take ALL design files, all maufacturing files, firmware code, pack it into one single package and give it to monero community for free, if there is some interest in doing this.
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i_a
selsta: do you think the best place to open this idea is post on reddit?
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selsta
I guess reddit is a good start to get some input
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i_a
selsta: ok
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sgp_
i_a agred, thanks for sharing :)
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boldsuck
Unfortunately the original talk of MoneroMovie is not online but the old monerujo.
media.ccc.de/v/34c3-ChaosWest-4-monerujo_android_monero_wallet
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sgp_
boldsuck: that monerujo one is good too
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azy
what statistics/information about monero do you routinely check? reddit posts, price, what else?
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sgp_
azy: Reddit, StackExchange, IRC
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Mochi101
price
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Mochi101
block reward
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Mochi101
transaction pool
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Mochi101
block height
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azy
lmao
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decent-username[
hahaha
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decent-username[
are those RAM chips dead though?
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decent-username[
Then the box would contain memory chips, which sparks memories about the memory they provided.
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Mochi101
that pic is so old
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decent-username[
Mochi101: k, thanks. Then I take back what I've just said, because it obviously doesn't to older pictures.
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decent-username[
*doesn't apply
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sgp_
82 people are watching the movie premiere
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kinghat[m]
did the paying with xmr/crypto get worked out?
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sgp_
yeah, we processed the payments manually
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jwinterm
selsta, vik finally replied
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jwinterm
We have it received from the receive screen. We have it on the send screen because some exchanges still use it
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jwinterm
But will do
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jwinterm
I think he meant removed from the receive screen
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selsta
okay thanks
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sgp_
if anyone is watching the livestream chat, this is why I want a Monero live chat tool haha
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sarang
?
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sgp_
someone didn't know about encryption and antivirus
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sgp_
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Mochi101
lol sgp_
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sgp_
Brave 35 people selecting "airplane"
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Mochi101
I bet so many people were like... "damnit"
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Mochi101
Maybe because with Monero it just flies so effortlessly from one person to another.
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sarang
So there's an upcoming gitcoin hackathan on privacy technology:
gitcoin.co/hackathon/privacy/onboard
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sarang
Any interest in supporting as a sponsor?
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sarang
s/hackathan/hackathon
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monerobux
sarang meant to say: So there's an upcoming gitcoin hackathon on privacy technology:
gitcoin.co/hackathon/privacy/onboard
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sarang
good bot
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sgp_
sarang: can you show us the current prizes?
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sgp_
or are those not posted yet
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sarang
I don't see them posted
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sarang
Just throwing it out there as an idea. I don't have details