00:26:24 <jonah_xd[m]> <ishikawa[m] "When when when! So many good pro"> Im waiting too, its best to wait for final product or we doomed like cyberpunk 2077
03:50:10 <f-chymera> hi guys, I have this weird situation where the cli wallet is always prompting me for my password twice
03:50:19 <f-chymera> any idea why and what I can do about this?
04:40:41 <Norkle> .faucet
04:40:43 <Wallet> N​orkle: Octagon is how many sides​?
04:40:48 <Norkle> 6
04:40:48 <Wallet> Norkle: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
04:41:08 <cismee> .faucet
04:41:08 <Wallet> cismee: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
04:41:09 <Wallet> c​ismee: Of​ 4 and 7, which is 7
04:41:19 <Wallet> cismee: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
04:41:26 <cismee> :?
04:56:17 <Steven_M> Hi all, does anyone here use the the thorchain exchange and does it support Monero?
05:20:46 <tzpeimlwifmh> FIY, you want to know why you are getting those daily messages? Cults NEED to control information. That's why people like lh1008 get savagly attacked (also called disconnection) for even talking to me. Break the information embargo, break the cult. Who would sign up to Scientology if they knew from the get-go that is is about a sci-fi alien overlord? Who would sign up to MAGA if they knew what a loser Trump is?
05:20:46 <tzpeimlwifmh> You don't sign up to MAGA to do a failed Viking LARP and some time off in club fed. You sign up because you feel like shit and they promise to give you self-respect. It is a total lie of course, you are still a joke even when cosplaying a Viking. Just like Monero's promise of privacy is a lie.
05:21:44 <selsta> Steven_M: I think they are working on it.
06:18:30 <Steven_M> selsta: cool, thanks :)
07:28:42 <sech1> .balance
07:28:43 <Wallet> sech1: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?
08:22:12 <moneromooo> boogerlad[m]: bool wallet_rpc_server::run()
08:25:19 <Zta> selsta: Thanks!  Changing the wallet restore height worked!
08:25:58 <Zta> I'm using GUI version  0.17.2.2-937cb98 (Qt 5.15.2),   Embedded Monero version:   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  0.17.2.0-release
08:27:39 <Zta> All transactions look fine now.
08:38:45 <Zta> I think I'm having the same issue on my other wallet (the one I'm sending funds to). I'm interfacing with that wallet with Python though the monero-wallet-rpc.  I'll look into decreasting the wallet restore height here as well.  Everything testnet btw.
08:58:40 <rottenwheel> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/nmtdpr/let_there_be_swap_on_mainnet/
09:18:40 <CrowmacMcCarthy[> Are there any mobile decentralized exchanges?
09:18:49 <CrowmacMcCarthy[> * Are there any mobile app decentralized exchanges?
11:12:57 <diimdeep> Hello, currently how many space node will take in --prune-blockchain mode ?
11:13:58 <moneromooo> About 35 GB.
11:14:43 <diimdeep> Got it. 1 CPU in cheap VPS will be enough ?
11:14:53 <moneromooo> However, if you start syncing without this flag, then use it, the chain db file will not shrink, it will just stop growing until it needs more space. So use the flag when you sync the first time.
11:14:59 <moneromooo> Yes.
11:15:15 <moneromooo> The big bottleneck is I/O, so use a SSD if you can.
11:15:29 <diimdeep> Sync time bottleneck is SSD ?
11:15:48 <moneromooo> I think you're right.
11:16:14 <moneromooo> Well, no. It's HDD tecnhically, SSD is the opposite. But yes :)
11:16:31 <moneromooo> HDD slow, SSD fast.
11:16:56 <mumuks[m]1> moneromooo: once it is synced, is it noticeable if it runs on an HDD or an SSD?
11:17:08 <mumuks[m]1> For a small personal node
11:17:28 <moneromooo> While I don't have an HDD to compare, my understanding is that it doesn't really matter whe njust keeping up after sync.
11:18:08 <moneromooo> Which means you can sync on SSD, then copy to HDD, if your SSD space is at a premium.
11:18:34 <mumuks[m]1> Or just have patience? ;)
11:18:36 <mumuks[m]1> Thanks
11:18:39 <moneromooo> Always make sure monerod is down before copying the chain btw.
11:18:43 <moneromooo> Yes :)
11:19:21 <diimdeep> Hhy 35 GB ? I read somewhere that it is 1/8 of whole blockchain. If I get source code and change proportion somewhere to 1/16 or 1/32 will it still work ?
11:19:42 <moneromooo> No to the second question.
11:41:17 <diimdeep> Why ? I just took a look at source code, there is these constants that looks like mandate pruning, could I just tweak them to prune for more space ? https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/dcba757dd283a3396120f0df90fe746e3ec02292/src/cryptonote_config.h#L194-L196
11:46:06 <moneromooo> Well, try it then.
11:46:29 <sech1> "once it is synced, is it noticeable if it runs on an HDD or an SSD?" it runs fine on HDD once synced
11:49:57 <moneromooo> It'll probably limp and kinda work, but you'll be an asshole to the network, you'll get banned randomly, randomly ban others, sync slower, and generally not gain much space anyway.
11:50:47 <moneromooo> But if you really want to do it, you can *probably* sync. And once it's synced, keeping up should be mostly fine.
11:51:11 <moneromooo> However, if you run into trouble, no way I'll waste my time on it :)
11:54:10 <diimdeep> OK, I don't know underlying architecture and didn't dive that much into code, to understand how it will affect everything.
11:54:55 <moneromooo> Changing the ratio will make others think you have different blocks that you do.
11:55:20 <moneromooo> So if they ask for blocks and you don't have them, they'll ban you beause you're lying. Same in the other direction.
11:55:48 <moneromooo> This also explains why sync will be slow. You're wrong about what peers have which blocks, so you ask the wrong ones.
11:56:09 <moneromooo> You'll end up being unable to sync off pruned nodes at all.
11:56:29 <moneromooo> Which are still a minority now so you'll still sync.
11:56:43 <moneromooo> Just slower, and banning other peers you think are lying, though it's you who is.
11:57:01 <moneromooo> About the 1/8th of the chain, it's only true at a very rough first approximation.
11:57:31 <moneromooo> 7/8th of the blocks (deterministically selected) are pruned. This means dropping the signatures, range proofs, and a few other minor bits.
11:57:58 <moneromooo> But some other stuff is also in the db, not just raw tx data.
11:58:35 <moneromooo> So, if the chain is 100 GB and the pruned chain is 35 GB, you can do some linear algebra to estimate how much you would save by switching to 1/16, if it were to work.
12:00:16 <moneromooo> I think if you switched to 0/8 (ie, max), you'd get max 8 GB.
12:00:22 <moneromooo> So 35 -> 27.
12:00:27 <diimdeep> So you are saying since pruning been implemented these constant is not mean to be tweaked/configured and part of current convention/algorithm ? I guess prune parameters not advertised by nodes that would allow this to be tweakable?
12:00:28 <moneromooo> Rough calc.
12:01:06 <moneromooo> They are not meant to be configured, correct. All nodes must agree on the setup to be compatible with each other.
12:01:38 <mumuks[m]1> <moneromooo "However, if you run into trouble"> Check your first world privilege
12:01:52 <moneromooo> It's theoretically possible to switch all nodes to 1/16 in the future though. All at once. When there are more monero nodes around.
12:02:15 <moneromooo> It'd be a bit unwieldy I guess, but at a fork boundary.
12:02:41 <moneromooo> No plans to though.
12:03:55 <sech1> Just run the full node. Storage is cheap these days
12:08:18 <diimdeep> Thank you for detailed answer, appreciate it.
13:16:28 <jjexeqch> For a community that prides itself on manipulating people, you can't manage a single guy that spends most of his time in his underpants :D
14:14:13 <gingeropolous> sethsimmons, hey
14:14:27 <sethsimmons> Howdy
14:15:02 <gingeropolous> just pmd. noscript gave me a warning on your site.
14:15:06 <gingeropolous> for podcat
14:15:13 <gingeropolous> dunno what it means, but thought id report
14:51:49 <boogerlad[m]> on windows with the monero gui wallet, how can I start the wallet rpc? The daemon rpc seems to be working by default on port 18081
14:53:19 <boogerlad[m]> do I need to manually invoke `monero-wallet-rpc.exe`? or is there a way to start it up with the gui?
14:53:40 <gumman> .faucet
14:53:40 <Wallet> gumman: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
14:53:44 <gumman> .xmr
14:53:45 <Wallet> gumman: You must have bot account & be logged in
14:54:51 <gumman> .faucet
14:54:51 <Wallet> g​umman: How ​long is the word mother
14:54:55 <gumman> 6
14:54:55 <Wallet> gumman: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000043 XMR to gumman [1cff9309] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01636242
14:58:47 <lh1008[m]> Hello everyone, in the Monero Outreach we're running a rpc-node (CLI users) and we're about to launch it to the public, but we're also trying to have a public node where anyone can connect too. My questions are, we have one daemon running, is it possible to have both services running in one daemon? Is there a way to open two access ports to a daemon?
15:11:49 <moneromooo> Only a restricted and an unrestricted one AFAIK.
15:12:23 <moneromooo> However, you can theoretically run two daemons on the same blockchain database.
15:12:58 <lh1008[m]> okay, okay, thank you, I'll try it out
15:13:10 <lh1008[m]>  * okay, okay, thank you, I'll try it out.
16:03:19 <boogerlad[m]> is there a way to have no wallet password / remove an existing one?
16:05:59 <sethsimmons> Just set it to nothing
16:06:04 <sethsimmons> It will still prompt but just hit enter
16:06:09 <sethsimmons> Obviously not recommended.
16:15:32 <moneromooo> "password" in monero-wallet-cli
16:19:58 <parazyd> .beg
16:19:58 <Wallet> p​arazyd: Snow Whi​te had how many dwarfs
16:20:02 <parazyd> 7
16:20:02 <Wallet> parazyd: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000038 XMR to parazyd [a295b44e] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01635862
16:27:43 <sech1> .balance
16:27:44 <Wallet> sech1: • Your balance is: 0.00491475 XMR (≈1.19 USD)
16:27:55 <sech1> .tip sech1@libera all
16:27:56 <Wallet> sech1 tipped 0.00491475 XMR (≈$1.19) to sech1 on libera [86367955]
17:19:41 <nioc> .tip nioc@libera all
17:19:42 <Wallet> nioc tipped 0.0005622 XMR (≈$0.14) to nioc on libera [2220ad66]
17:33:43 <Guest2986> Hi folks, I am using Mint 20.1 (Ulyssa?). My Monero software wallet GUI is not accepting my password, Any ideas
17:48:44 <Zta> From GUI wallet I can see the status of a transaction; amount sent, fee, block height, txid, txkey, and confirmations.  On the receiving end, I'm using monero-python + monero-wallet-rpc + monerod ... how do I read this status?
17:55:18 <Zta> I realize that some of this information is secret, but sure I should be able to see something in wallet.incoming() ?
17:57:31 <selsta> can you link the repo?
17:58:16 <moneromooo> get_transfers RPC
17:58:18 <lza_menace> probably https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-python
17:59:05 <lza_menace> Zta: did you read this yet? https://monero-python.readthedocs.io/en/latest/transactions.html#payment-and-transaction-objects
18:02:14 <Zta> selsta: I don't have it up yet, but I'm basically doing ... oh, firefox crashed.  That's weird.  Anyway, I'm doing wallet.incoming() and wallet.incoming(min_height=1732050) as described in the fine material that lza_menace also linked to.
18:03:41 <Zta> lza_menace: That's exactly what I'm doing.  Except wallet.incoming() returns [].
18:04:42 <lza_menace> is tx in the pool?
18:05:21 <Zta> I'm sending to a subwallet, and I use: wallet.incoming(local_address=subwalletaddress)
18:05:22 <lza_menace> further down in the doc it explains how to check
18:05:33 <lza_menace> `wallet.incoming(unconfirmed=True, confirmed=False)`
18:05:49 <Zta> I'm doing that too; no result.
18:07:32 <lza_menace> something aint right then
18:07:42 <Zta> The GUI wallet says the transaction has 10 confirmations now.
18:08:05 <Zta> Can I confirm this on some blockchain explorer website?
18:08:08 <Zta> ...for testnet
18:08:46 <lza_menace> si
18:08:47 <lza_menace> https://testnet.xmrchain.net/
18:09:05 <Zta> thanks
18:10:02 <lza_menace> what's output of `wallet.height()`?
18:10:03 <Zta> ah, hash = transaction id
18:10:21 <Zta> wallet.height(): 1732063
18:11:35 <lza_menace> seems right
18:12:14 <Zta> I guess I cannot verify it any deep that just confirm that the txid is present in the blockchain at the correct height
18:26:36 <Zta> it's this one: https://testnet.xmrchain.net/tx/8bb60bcead7167e62d90226fd8cc7aee7bc8bac42bac0c91f6933d03fa93cba1
18:38:50 <Zta> Oh ffs I accidentally deleted my docker volume with my testnet blockchain
18:39:13 <apotheon> oops
18:39:27 <Zta> how the hell did that even happen..
18:43:57 <Zta> Oh, there it is.  Welp, you lean something new every day.
18:50:13 <Zach[m]> Did I hear atomic swaps are almost here?
18:51:07 <sethsimmons> They're here on mainnet 😀
18:51:07 <sethsimmons> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/nmtdpr/let_there_be_swap_on_mainnet/
18:54:13 <nc1236[m]> Awesome!  Can't wait for XMR's price to decouple from BTC
18:54:17 <nc1236[m]> XMR has waaaaaay more utility than BTC
18:54:20 <nc1236[m]> And BTC has institutional support
18:54:28 <nc1236[m]> Good luck regulating XMR!
18:54:42 <Zta> What is atomic swap?
18:55:01 <sethsimmons> <Zta "What is atomic swap?"> https://localmonero.co/knowledge/monero-atomic-swaps
18:55:15 <Zta> Thanks
19:00:22 <Zta> Nice description.
19:15:05 <sethsimmons> Reminder that there is an ongoing Monero Twitter Space right now: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1dRKZNQjDgXKB
19:15:12 <sethsimmons> Can jump in and chat live with others in the Monero community!
19:17:09 <Zta> Any tips to how I could speed up synchronizing the blockchain for a small experimental project on testnet?  --prune-blockchain seems like a nice options. Anything else?
19:18:19 <fehho[m]> Pruning will slow you down since it has to determine what data isn't needed and can be thrown away
19:18:48 <moneromooo> --sync-pruned-blocks will only load the data without sigs/proofs when appropriate.
19:19:05 <moneromooo> But using a SSD is the big one.
19:19:35 <Zta> Synced 7301/1732101 (0%, 1724800 left, 0% of total synced, estimated 18.1 hours left) <-- It's that last number I want to trim
19:20:36 <moneromooo> Run with --offline. You'll probably want to tweak the fork table in hardforks.cpp to fork very early.
19:22:22 <Zta> can I transfer locally with --offline? I mean if both parties use the same monerod?
19:23:05 <moneromooo> If you mean send txes, yes.
19:25:09 <Zta> should I enable local mining then in order to have the transactions confirmed?
19:26:23 <moneromooo> I don't know what that is.
19:26:36 <moneromooo> Oh, if you mean "should I mine", then yes obviously.
19:26:52 <Zta> Right.
19:26:56 <moneromooo> You'd also want --fixed-difficulty 1 (or some small number) to not have to wait too much.
19:27:33 <Zta> Thanks!
19:28:20 <moneromooo> --data-dir /else/where to avoid messing with any existing chain.
19:51:27 <solominer> Hello
19:53:18 <midipoet> sethsimmons: how do we become a speaker?
19:53:36 <sethsimmons> Request or DM @monero
19:53:37 <sethsimmons> Max 10 though
19:53:43 <midipoet> Ok
19:53:48 <midipoet> Maybe next time
19:53:50 <sethsimmons> One spot open right now
19:53:57 <sethsimmons> sgp_: is running, so ping him if can't get in
20:05:53 <solominer> When XMRig is only using 6 of 12 CPU-cores because of too little L3 cache, could I try using the internal monerod miner to see if its algo can use all cores and therefore give me a higher hashrate?
20:08:45 <Inge-> nope
20:09:32 <Inge-> well, you could try, but it would likely be a waste of time. xmrig is well-optimized, and it is the RandomX algorithm itself that needs 2MB L3 cache per thread, so using the internal miner will not help
20:10:36 <solominer> my xmrig bench is here by the way https://xmrig.com/benchmark/5XsNTY
20:11:10 <solominer> ok so internal miner also uses randomx
20:11:12 <solominer> ?
20:11:49 <charolastra> of course
20:11:50 <Inge-> Monero is only mined with RandomX, so yeah, all miners must use it
20:12:04 <Inge-> here are other results for your CPU: https://xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=Intel%28R%29+Xeon%28R%29+CPU+E5-2620+v3+%40+2.40GHz
20:13:49 <Inge-> solominer: better to do this conversation in #monero-pools
20:14:58 <solominer> thank you.
20:16:16 <solominer> are there any drawbacks to solomining or normal monerod operation when i dont allow incoming p2p connections (no port forwarding on my firewall)?
20:18:21 <Inge-> I don't think so
20:21:48 <solominer> i'm customizing monerod with several cmd-options and need to know if RPC is the interface used by all external programs like wallet-cli, xmrig etc.?
20:22:38 <Inge-> I'll defer that one to others.
20:30:04 <moneromooo> Yes.
20:33:31 <solominer> thank you guys so far!
20:56:50 <gjngjurrs> FIY, you want to know why you are getting those daily messages? Cults NEED to control information. That's why people like lh1008 get savagly attacked (also called disconnection) for even talking to me. Break the information embargo, break the cult. Who would sign up to Scientology if they knew from the get-go that is is about a sci-fi alien overlord? Who would sign up to MAGA if they knew what a loser Trump is?
20:56:50 <gjngjurrs> You don't sign up to MAGA to do a failed Viking LARP and some time off in club fed. You sign up because you feel like shit and they promise to give you self-respect. It is a total lie of course, you are still a joke even when cosplaying a Viking. Just like Monero's promise of privacy is a lie.
20:58:38 <Randolf> Drive-by preaching.  Monero was designed with privacy as a central purpose.
21:01:49 <lithium_pt> .faucet
21:01:49 <Wallet> lithium_pt: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:03:25 <Inge-> .fauci
21:03:32 <Inge-> .faucet
21:03:32 <Wallet> I​nge-: How ​long is the word their
21:03:36 <Inge-> 5
21:03:36 <Wallet> Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000046 XMR to Inge- [5521e9d0] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01633472
21:03:53 <Randolf> .faucet
21:03:53 <Wallet> Randolf: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
21:03:53 <Wallet> Randolf: OOPS! 30 min penalty. 23 hours to go.
21:04:28 <Inge-> .balance
21:04:29 <Wallet> Inge-: • Your balance is: 0.0052719 XMR (≈1.33 USD)
21:04:34 <Randolf> .balance
21:04:34 <Wallet> Randolf: • Your balance is: 0 XMR
21:04:56 <Randolf> .balances
21:04:57 <Wallet> Randolf: Balances • 0.00001126 BCH • 0.0000001 BTC • ≈2.27 DOGE • ≈0.00002 FIRO • ≈0.74 GRLC • ≈23.01 LDOGE • (≈$2.03 USD) • +8 more ('all'/PM) • Staking: N/A • [N]
21:15:13 <orangeboxcutter[> .balance
21:15:14 <Wallet> orangeboxcutter[: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?
23:28:44 <ishikawa[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/nmtdpr/let_there_be_swap_on_mainnet/
23:28:49 <ishikawa[m]> Finally here !!!!!!!!
23:29:06 <ishikawa[m]> Ive been waiting for atomic swaps
23:29:20 <ishikawa[m]> This is huge