00:49:13 <Norkle> .faucet
00:49:13 <Wallet> N​orkle: How many​ characters in eat
00:49:16 <Norkle> 3
00:49:17 <Wallet> Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000088 XMR to Norkle [b7eb4a2f] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01667316
03:32:03 <Guest99247> Howdy, need some info on sha 256 for Monero GUI Wallet
03:33:09 <Guest99247> Downloaded the Monero GUI Wallet binary and ran sha256sum on it and it always produces:
03:33:09 <Guest99247> 72dfca40797201604a6b2fb97935037f62d3153360695cf732dee3d12e167da3  monero-gui-linux-x64-v0.17.2.1.tar.bz2
03:33:09 <Guest99247> But the sha 256 sum should be:
03:33:09 <Guest99247> 0088b133febdb151a3753393b4dc8b06111b844c0fca14e512f3c8d56a2a5b97  monero-gui-linux-x64-v0.17.2.2.tar.bz2
03:33:09 <Guest99247> Should be the one for Linux.... can't figure out what gives.
03:33:09 <Guest99247> Can anyone advise me on this???
03:33:11 <Guest99247> Thanks
03:35:51 <fehho[m]> 72.. is the MD5 hash
03:36:34 <fehho[m]> 008 is the sha256 hash
03:36:34 <fehho[m]>  * 72 is the MD5 hash
03:36:41 <selsta> no
03:36:49 <selsta> they just compare v0.17.2.1 and v0.17.2.2
03:37:00 <selsta> but they got k-lined
03:38:03 <fehho[m]> I've been fooled by the md5 hash starting with a 7
05:07:46 <Duvio> .xmr
05:07:46 <Wallet> Duvio: ≈$292.3124 • ≈ value of: 1 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
05:07:52 <Duvio> Holy shit what's happening
05:40:56 <Inge-> Duvio: Welcome to crypto.
05:40:58 <Inge-> It does this.
05:43:27 <apotheon> Duvio: Dilettantes come and go, and often some news item that brings BTC into the public eye causes massive fluctuations across the whole run of blockchain cryptocurrencies.  Look more at long-term trends and don't sweat the short-term stuff too much, I guess.
05:43:31 <apotheon> Sleep on it.
05:43:40 <apotheon> . . . like I'm about to try.  It's bedtime.
07:14:26 <ishikawa[m]> Dont panic sell people.
07:14:26 <ishikawa[m]> 30-40% corrections are normal in the market
07:15:23 <asymptotically> the future of money!
08:39:53 <shabash> https://a.uguu.se/TxCvYWge.PNG
08:40:05 <shabash> i updated to latest monero gui and im getting this error with my ledger
08:41:58 <shabash> ive tried different usb ports
08:46:31 <Inge-> shabash: is it long time since you updated things on the ledger?
08:46:41 <shabash> not really
08:46:45 <shabash> a few weeks maybe?
08:46:54 <shabash> i ran ledger live to see if there was any firmware updates
08:46:55 <shabash> and none
08:46:57 <Inge-> shabash: 1. install the latest Ledger software on your computer, 2. check if there is a new firmware update for your ledger (need 1. to see 2.)
08:47:22 <Inge-> This was a nice gotcha earlier, that a too old Ledger Live would not show the new firmware
08:47:30 <Inge-> and without new firmware, you couldn't get the updated Monero app
08:52:44 <shabash> i really dont know
08:52:53 <shabash> has to be the new monero gui version?
08:54:18 <Inge-> don't think anything changed since 17.1
08:54:23 <Inge-> (for Ledger)
08:55:25 <Inge-> Ledger Monero app v1.7.4
08:58:10 <shabash> running ledger live v2.26.1
08:58:34 <Inge-> but what version od the Monero app on your Ledger?
09:01:58 <shabash> 1.7.6
09:02:12 <Inge-> sounds like I should update :)
09:02:51 <Inge-> and you close LEdger Live and have the monero app open when you open the wallet?
09:06:40 <shabash> its working now thanks Inge-
09:06:47 <shabash> firmware it was i guess
09:06:58 <shabash> it was acting very strange though
09:07:13 <Inge-> ok cool you got it working
09:09:14 <shabash> thanks for your help
09:15:05 <shabash> i love monero
09:15:16 <shabash> it sucks so badly that all the exchanges in aus stopped selling it
09:15:29 <shabash> because its a "privacy coin"
09:17:33 <obit33> do people easily find ways to circumvent?
09:21:17 <N4RT[m]> <shabash "it sucks so badly that all the e"> vpn
09:35:14 <Inge-> heh. criminal bitcoin in .no are on the move. 143 BTC that .no police warned about, have moved on to 5 new addresses along with other funds.
09:36:59 <Inge-> so now they published 5 addresses that people should be wary of
09:43:52 <shabash> then they just tumble?
09:46:48 <Inge-> easier said than done
12:20:45 <onf> https://kline.sh/
12:34:19 <rottenwheel> onf curiously enough, I just stumbled upon that link and was going to share and read.
12:34:20 <rottenwheel> thanks.
12:46:10 <voker57> Where to report monero bugs?
12:46:22 <voker57> github issues are locked
12:46:33 <sethsimmons> Here is fine!
12:46:40 <sethsimmons> Github is locked due to an ongoing spam account
12:47:42 <voker57> monero-wallet-cli apparently times out when I try to transfer money
12:48:04 <voker57> After asking for wallet password and some minutes: > Error: no connection to daemon. Please make sure daemon is running.
12:49:23 <moneromooo> Are you trying to send a huge amount of outputs (in terms of outputs, not in terms of amount) ?
12:49:32 <moneromooo> And is your daemon on localhost or elsewhere ?
12:50:55 <voker57> no, a simple transaction to an adress
12:50:57 <voker57> daemon is local
12:51:48 <moneromooo> Does your daemon reply properly when you run "status" in its console ?
13:03:15 <voker57> after the timeout it was disconnected
13:03:25 <voker57> now it's: Refreshed 2364313/2364315, syncing, daemon RPC v3.5, SSL
13:03:41 <Bill48105> .xmr
13:03:41 <Wallet> Bill48105: ≈$198.688 • ≈ value of: 1 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
13:03:45 <Bill48105> ouch wtf
13:04:28 <moneromooo> Ah, if syncing then let it sync. Syncing holds the blockchain mutex for long periods of time, and the wallet sync needs it.
13:04:39 <moneromooo> Then send your tx once it's synced.
13:05:07 <moneromooo> If it does it again, then... run top to see what, if anything, is taking up gobs of CPU time.
13:05:19 <moneromooo> Then: pstack PUTPIDHERE
13:05:35 <moneromooo> I mean, put the PID of the process that eats CPU.
13:05:52 <moneromooo> That'll tell us what it's doing (hopefully).
13:06:09 * moneromooo waves at jess
13:10:58 <voker57> CPU is not loaded but the system is under heavy IO load and monerod appears to need it as well
13:12:11 <moneromooo> Spinning disk ?
13:12:37 <voker57> yes
13:12:41 <Mochi102> Are you trying to hypnotize me?
13:13:11 <moneromooo> Is this while you're trying to sed a tx again ?
13:13:25 <moneromooo> s/sed/send/
13:14:34 <voker57> yes
13:19:12 <yanmaani> Is #monero switching to libera.chat or staying on Freenode?
13:19:21 <voker57> well, I killed other IO users but monerod got disconnected again and chewing the disk while not answering to queries
13:20:38 <moneromooo> Odd. Running pstack on it a few times will show what DB functions it's spamming.
13:22:49 <sethsimmons> <yanmaani "Is #monero switching to libera.c"> It's on Matrix as well, recommend just switching to that instead of IRC for many reasons.
13:23:46 <Duvio> Holy fucking shit again
13:23:49 <Duvio> What happened
13:23:54 <yanmaani> sethsimmons: right, but will libera.chat be bridged? will the matrix channel be removed?
13:24:47 <sethsimmons> Matrix is the new home, so Idk why it would be removed.
13:25:01 <sethsimmons> In theory Matrix could be bridged with libera.chat
13:25:26 <selsta> yanmaani: liberachat apparently still misses basic features like registration
13:32:02 <voker57> pstack says Input/Output error
13:36:44 <moneromooo> That... doens't seem good...
13:38:04 <moneromooo> Then try running gdb on it instead: gdb /path/to/monerod `pidof monerod`
13:38:14 <moneromooo> Then, when gdb's loaded: thread apply all bt
13:38:40 <moneromooo> That'll be many pages. You want the thread that's (probably) in BlockchainDB.
13:38:44 <moneromooo> Then: cont
13:38:48 <moneromooo> Then ^C
13:39:01 <moneromooo> THen thread apply all bt again, it'll have progressed.
14:11:47 <Inge-> who are taking over freenode? And why did Jess jump ship?
14:16:38 <onf> Inge-: https://kline.sh/
14:19:53 <Inge-> onf: thank you sir
14:27:59 <Zoltan[m]> <onf "Inge-: https://kline.sh/"> what are the implications?
14:29:14 <fluffypony> at this point nothing is changing - we have a project namespace reserved on Libera Chat, and we'll be discussing this as a community
14:29:50 <onf> Zoltan[m]: According to one of the former staff (https://mniip.com/freenode.txt), Freenode wasn't logging messages until now. From what I understand, it seems now it will do so, and they might start selling user data etc.
14:29:51 <fluffypony> either way, if you're on Matrix it won't affect you if we move
14:31:09 <apotheon> I need to try out some more Matrix clients, and see if I can find one that isn't painful to use.
14:31:45 <apotheon> . . . and figure out what to do with channels I run on Freenode.  Damn.
14:33:56 <Zoltan[m]> <onf "Zoltan: According to one of the "> jesus
14:34:13 <Zoltan[m]> i guess it really i that hard to say no to a fat check
14:34:46 <Zoltan[m]>  * i guess it really is that hard to say no to a fat check
14:39:37 <sgp_> I really hope a lot of people currently on freenode take this opportunity to move over to Matrix. People can run their own servers if they want to and still talk to the main monero.social and matrix.org servers. It's beautiful
14:39:52 <fluffypony> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1395026059624595462
14:41:11 <selsta> sgp_: I find the matrix web client awful
14:41:18 <selsta> super slow on my system
14:41:40 <sgp_> on desktop, there's this pretty nice irc-like UI mode that I use
14:41:59 <sgp_> sometimes it's slow I guess, but it's not THAT slow
14:42:04 <pixelized[m]> i've had my xmr private key in an encrypted file on my phone
14:42:14 <sgp_> certainly 1000x better than 2017
14:42:14 <pixelized[m]> this may seem extremely paranoid
14:42:21 <pixelized[m]> but phone = not foss
14:42:29 <pixelized[m]> therefore i think i might just create a new wallet entirely
14:42:32 <pixelized[m]> paranoid me
14:42:41 <sgp_> go for it Pixy
14:42:59 <Mochi103> I'm so old school.
14:43:20 <Mochi103> Well, I'm not using mIRC so... maybe not THAT old school.
14:44:08 * Mochi103 slaps sgp_ with a large trout
14:44:13 <Mochi103> :D
14:44:55 <pixelized[m]> <sgp_ "go for it Pixy "> i think i will
14:44:57 <pixelized[m]> the plaintext has been in ram
14:45:06 <pixelized[m]> 😂 it's so paranoid
14:45:40 <sgp_> I just recommend everyone give Matrix a try if they haven't in a while. I didn't like it in 2017, but now I hardly ever use freenode directly. I never really understood the diehards relying on a centralized server when they could run their own Matrix server
14:45:54 <sgp_> and there are plenty of clients that are more lightweight than Element
14:46:35 <pixelized[m]> oh hey! sgp_ you're 'the guy'!
14:46:40 <pixelized[m]> i really enjoyed breaking monero
14:47:44 <sgp_> yup that's me, thanks for the kind words!
14:48:24 <pixelized[m]> they're deserved, great content :)
14:48:32 <pixelized[m]> ok moving on, time to get that new wallet in my life
15:01:17 <tobtoht> fluffypony: libera.chat apparently blocks Tor
15:01:21 <tobtoht> "You are banned from this server- Your Tor exit node must not allow connections to libera.chat."
15:01:56 <fluffypony> tobtoht: most IRC servers block Tor exit nodes, they want you to connect to a native Tor service - I'll ask about it
15:02:19 <tobtoht> cool, thanks
15:02:54 <apotheon> sgp_: I find the web client difficult to tolerate, and the main "desktop" clients aren't available on OpenBSD as far as I've been able to determine (re: Matrix).
15:03:50 <fluffypony> tobtoht: they're working on a Tor server, so you'll be able to connect natively
15:04:05 <tobtoht> fluffypony: perfect, ty for asking
15:04:51 <rottenwheel> Highly recommend this Element fork for Matrix users: https://schildi.chat/
15:13:35 <apotheon> rotten: Why?
15:13:44 <rotten> idk.
15:13:50 <rotten> i just like it?
15:13:58 <rotten> it has an irc-like theme too.
15:14:03 <apotheon> rotten: Okay, that's cool.
15:15:09 <apotheon> Get it into OpenBSD packages and maybe I'll try it.
15:15:16 <pixelized[m]> <rottenwheel "Highly recommend this Element fo"> oh yeah schildi is nice
15:15:21 <pixelized[m]> schildi has labs enabled out of the box
15:15:33 <pixelized[m]> and it provides normie looking chat bubbles
15:17:04 <Mochi101> .faucet
15:17:06 <Wallet> Mo​chi101: How many let​ters in lunch
15:17:09 <Mochi101> 5
15:17:09 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000019 XMR to Mochi101 [3dfb0169] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01670626
15:21:00 <apotheon> pixelized[m]: What does "labs" mean in this case?
15:21:13 <pixelized[m]> labs is a set of experimental features
15:21:23 <pixelized[m]> which you can enable or disable
15:21:29 <pixelized[m]> kind of like 'beta' stuff i suppose
15:21:33 <apotheon> I see.
15:21:47 <pixelized[m]> it's a bit of a hassle to enable them on element, but you can do it through the config file
15:22:21 <pixelized[m]> the most epic and newest labs feature is 'spaces', which you can access on element also by default and it basically means that you can now nest rooms in other rooms
15:22:38 <pixelized[m]> basically replicating a merge between communities and the discord server paradigm in a nestable way
15:22:57 <pixelized[m]> but you also get things like LaTeX maths rendering in messages, user statuses, message pinning etc.
15:32:13 <apotheon> pixelized[m]: That's interesting.  Thanks for explaining it.
15:32:48 <pixelized[m]> no problem
15:54:03 <ErCiccione> I think it's time to abandon freenode for good: https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461
16:29:57 <moneromooo> Anyone knows a hidden service address for libera.chat ? I don't see one on the website.
16:30:39 <apotheon> They don't seem to have it set up yet.
16:30:41 <moneromooo> nvm, I'll find an op there, stupid me
16:30:50 <apotheon> (last I heard)
16:31:15 <ProjectEpsilon> According to their website they don't have one yet
16:31:39 <apotheon> What I haven't figured out yet is why my autojoin config doesn't work there.
17:08:27 <volantaryism1[m]> ErCiccione: what does 'trumpian' even mean lol
17:37:27 <ErCiccione> I would suggest privacy-focused people to take advantage of this moment and drop irc for good and pass to matrix. Run your own matrix instance and don't rely on a third party
17:38:11 <Mochi101> Matrix shill!
17:38:13 <Mochi101> :P
17:40:41 <ErCiccione> 😛 i have a complicate relationship with matrix, but it's definitely the best around IMO
17:41:03 <Mochi101> I've never tried it... I might do that now though.
17:41:18 <asymptotically> Mochi101: i would never forgive you </3
17:41:21 <entry1> Just out of curiosity, does IRC have benefits over Matrix? IRC was before my time
17:41:55 <Mochi101> ErCiccione, I'm just a little busy right now reading the latest Revuo edition.
17:42:56 <selsta> entry1: IRC is simpler protocol and has more clients, but obviously also downsides
17:44:07 <swrangsar> what about xmpp?
17:44:25 <Mochi101> pidgen
17:44:52 <ErCiccione> lol
17:44:59 <Mochi101> pidgin
17:45:45 <swrangsar> dino.im
17:45:45 <ProjectEpsilon> There is Matrix-IRCD which lets you use an IRC client to connect to Matrix though it seems to be in alpha
17:46:32 <swrangsar> profanity
18:21:40 <ndorf> there is also a matrix plugin for weechat
18:26:12 <ProjectEpsilon> Currently using the Weechat plugin and it works fine :)
19:05:21 <apotheon> Someone teach me to configure weechat without using the GUI.
19:05:39 <PiRATA> what GUI?
19:05:40 <raecarruth> rtfm
19:05:49 <raecarruth> there is no gui for weecha
19:05:52 <raecarruth> t
19:05:59 <apotheon> Hmm.  I thought there was a GUI for it, too.
19:06:00 <hyc> there's a libpurple plugin for matrix but it appears to be pre-alpha too
19:06:03 <raecarruth> there's a nice how to guide
19:06:06 <raecarruth> or used to be
19:06:25 <apotheon> Last time I checked (years and years ago), weechat config was a pain bigger than irssi config.
19:06:30 <hyc> it might be good enough for my purposes, will check it out later
19:06:46 <raecarruth> it really isn't that much more complicated
22:49:49 <CrowmacMcCarthy[> https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover
22:58:34 <Bill48105> rip freenode
22:58:52 <Bill48105> .xmr
22:58:52 <Wallet> Bill48105: ≈$218.945 • ≈ value of: 1 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
22:58:55 <Bill48105> OUCH wtf
22:59:01 <Bill48105> rip monero lol
22:59:04 <Bill48105> .val xmr
22:59:05 <Wallet> Bill48105: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈218.95 • ccc/Bitfinex: ≈$221.34 24HΔ: -34.98414% Vol: 126.64K [< 1m] • cmc: ≈$216.55 24HΔ: -36.58207% 7DΔ: -49.40387% [< 4m]
22:59:08 <Bill48105> geesh
22:59:13 <Bill48105> knew it was bad but wow
23:05:39 <onf> I suppose it isn't normal that a subaddress completely disappears from a cli wallet..?
23:06:51 <tobtoht> onf: did you close the wallet by typing 'exit' ?
23:07:02 <tobtoht> if you close it in any other way subaddresses can go missing
23:07:11 <tobtoht> you can get them back by generating them again
23:07:39 <tobtoht> it's deterministic, so just do 'address new' a few times and it'll show up again
23:09:08 <tobtoht> there is a lookahead, so even if it doesn't show up when you type 'address all' there is a good chance that funds sent to that address will still show up in your wallet
23:09:37 <onf> oh, thank you so much
23:09:55 <onf> it's back