00:08:49 <ocb> helo
00:09:05 <ocb> the node became unresponsive and stalls, Failed to
00:09:07 <ocb> invoke command 1007 return code -4
00:09:33 <ocb> anyone had similar issues that the node is trying to sync, says it's staring to sync but nothing happens
00:12:53 <selsta> ocb: which version are you running?
00:16:21 <ocb> selsta: sorry runing 0.17.2.0
00:17:18 <ocb> https://termbin.com/ff9x
00:17:50 <selsta> are these the last messages?
00:18:05 <selsta> and it froze afterwards?
00:19:17 <ocb> it keeps running, for hours and hours but never syncing. last successful sync was 1.1 days ago. and at the same time i consumes a lot of cpu resources as if it's doing something but actually i see no disk i/o nor network traffic
00:19:34 <ocb> it doesn't actually freeze
00:21:14 <selsta> ok, can you stop the daemon, delete ~/.bitmonero/p2pstate.bin and then start again with --enable-dns-blocklist ?
00:21:34 <selsta> if that still does not work then try to pop some blocks with the `pop_blocks 1000` command
00:21:37 <ocb> 1 second. tried deleting p2p already but not the second part
00:26:11 <ocb> selsta: woah, adding enable-dns-blocklist=1 to monerod.conf worked. i don't know why but it did together with p2pstate.bin deletion
00:26:15 <ocb> thank you very much
00:26:33 <selsta> maybe it was just luck
00:27:10 <selsta> unless all you peers are sybil peers it should not be needed
00:27:28 <ocb> i'll wait for it to sync and try to remove it and see what happens
00:27:49 <ocb> however i did play a while ago with limit-rate-up=
00:28:23 <ocb> i don't know if setting limit-rate-up too low might have been preventing it to sync
00:29:35 <ocb> the node is public for 2 years but temporarily made it private due to some huge traffic coming in ~120 MB/s constantly for 2 days using the whole 1gbps link i had to lower it down
00:30:40 <ocb> i wonder if limit-rate-up=0 could have broken the upload and it couldn't communicate with other peers. then i saw it doesn't work have set it to 500 and went to sleep. but now deleting p2pstate b in again and --elable-dns-blocklist made it work again
00:31:06 <selsta> setting it to 0 might be an issue, yea
00:32:46 <ocb> i don't know if limit-rate-up=0 should prevent syncing with others, or just disable contribution to the network
00:32:54 <ocb> anyways, thanks for the help. works well now
00:33:03 <selsta> --in-peers 0 might be better for that
00:33:20 <ocb> will set it at limit-rate-up=32000 and look into in-peers as you suggested
00:33:30 <ocb> thank you
03:04:33 <botcoinnotbot[m]> https://twitter.com/HerdAlert/status/1394482638094807040
03:08:26 <botcoinnotbot[m]> someone just made 98 transaction in the last 2 hours that use the tx_extra field
03:08:42 <botcoinnotbot[m]> they are still going too
03:10:02 <botcoinnotbot[m]> wonder if they are using custom software to encode data into the blockchain across multiple transactions🤔
03:18:46 <botcoinnotbot[m]> I actually considered making something like this recently, basically get data (picture, text, etc) -> optional encryption of data -> convert to hex -> generate a bunch of transactions in which data in placed in tx_extra
03:18:46 <botcoinnotbot[m]> software would be able to then reassemble the data if given the transactions
03:18:46 <botcoinnotbot[m]> considered against it because it just reduces anonymity set for other users
03:19:16 <botcoinnotbot[m]> *data is placed in
03:25:23 <ishikawa[m]> Hey whats a good privacy based portfolio tracker?
03:25:43 <ishikawa[m]> I remember seeing a new project but the name escapes me
03:35:30 <Norkle> .faucet
03:35:30 <Wallet> N​orkle: Sum of 1000000000 digits of pi, di​vided by itself
03:35:35 <Norkle> 1
03:35:35 <Wallet> Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.000045 XMR to Norkle [fc843146] Wait ≈1 day 43 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01669088
04:38:14 <zt6d[m]> .faucet
04:38:15 <Wallet> zt6d[m]: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
04:40:09 <gingeropolous> hrm, the case in monero talk re: 20 minute locktime is pretty cumbersome
04:40:38 <gingeropolous> at a coffee shop, buy a coffee .... then realize you want a muffin ...
04:41:24 <gingeropolous> i need to wave my magic wand over my keyboard and have it create the whole tx by id instead of index thing
04:41:59 <gingeropolous> humanaaaa humunaaaa ooohhhmmmmmmmm
05:34:21 <Metamorphosis> Good morning everyone.
06:45:39 <gokritz> was genuinely surprised to discover how hard it is to trade TF2 items for crypto
06:46:12 <gokritz> the whole point of crypto is that you can make transactions like that, and the guy's like "nah, let's use paypal"
06:46:29 <gokritz> "oh shit we're in different countries... there's a fee."
06:48:31 <gokritz> BirdOfCourage: pls
06:48:55 <gokritz> BirdOfCourage: stoppit
06:49:18 <gokritz> BirdOfCourage: hey
06:49:21 <gokritz> grrr
06:51:02 <gokritz> how do I stop that appearing on my feed
06:51:05 <gokritz> I wanna mute BirdOfCourage
06:51:26 <gokritz> I'm using Weechat is there a /command?
06:52:49 <qmalseqp> hello
06:52:52 <gokritz> hiya
06:53:33 <qmalseqp> any thought on what is happening here http://paste.debian.net/1197946/
06:54:38 <gokritz> what is it?
06:55:01 <qmalseqp> compile stops
06:55:16 <qmalseqp> for android
06:55:21 <gokritz> ah
06:55:22 <qmalseqp> before was working
06:55:41 <gokritz> I'm gonna confess I know little to nothing about doing terminal stuff on linux
06:55:53 <gokritz> android*
06:55:58 <gokritz> linux is fine
06:56:19 <qmalseqp> yes linux compile
06:57:33 <gokritz> well on linux I didn't have to compile it, i just navigate to the folder and type ./monero-gui-wallet-v01.AppImage
07:00:21 <gokritz> I'm using Arch if that helps
07:00:36 <gokritz> but as far as I know, .AppImage files are like the sort of
07:00:42 <gokritz> "this works on any distro"
07:03:53 <gokritz> you could try asking on #android if that exists
09:19:21 <Inge-> so both Binance and Kraken are having some XMR withdrawal issues today
09:20:02 <Inge-> https://status.kraken.com/  "XMR Monero Funding Delays - Investigating - We're investigating an issue with the XMR Monero funding gateway. Withdrawals are currently delayed by 1 hour. We will provide any updates as soon as possible. May 18, 03:34 UTC"
09:20:02 <Mochi102> Inge-, can you confirm the Kraken problems... So far I've only seen this mentioned in -markets
09:20:10 <Mochi102> ohhhh... thanks
09:20:45 <Inge-> I don't have similar confirmation from Binance, only the quantity of r/xmrtrader threads
09:21:11 <Mochi102> I can personally confirm Binance.
09:22:07 <obit33> I withdrew 1 xmr from kraken about an hour ago... took no more than 10 minutes
10:31:36 <walton> .faucet
10:31:38 <Wallet> w​alton: How long is the wor​d my
10:31:44 <walton> 2
10:31:44 <Wallet> walton: @bonuspot tipped 0.000005 XMR to walton [25abd0b3] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01668579
10:41:59 <Mochi102> .faucet
10:41:59 <Wallet> Mochi102: OOPS! 30 min penalty. 12 hours to go.
10:42:05 <Mochi102> oh no!
10:47:24 <kloinka[m]> Game theory actually works!
10:50:54 <moneromooo> In theory.
11:06:03 <Metamorphosis> Nice theory
11:09:19 <kloinka[m]> Moonaro Gayme Theory FTW!
11:24:26 <Inge-> .faucet
11:24:26 <Wallet> I​nge-: Of​ 4 or 3, which is 3
11:24:28 <Inge-> 3
11:24:29 <Wallet> Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000011 XMR to Inge- [c2b26686] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01668469
11:24:30 <Inge-> .balance
11:24:31 <Wallet> Inge-: • Your balance is: 0.005262 XMR (≈1.86 USD)
11:31:02 <azy> .faucet
11:31:04 <Wallet> ​azy: How m​any chars in APIX
11:31:06 <azy> 4
11:31:07 <Wallet> azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000004 XMR to azy [fd468e6e] Wait ≈1 day 1 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01668429
11:31:15 <azy> .balance
11:31:16 <Wallet> azy: • Your balance is: 0.00190328 XMR (≈0.68 USD)
11:31:17 <azy> .balance doge
11:31:17 <Wallet> azy: • Your balance is: 0 DOGE
11:35:21 <ern> .balance doge
11:35:21 <Wallet> ern: • Your balance is: 4.56 DOGE (≈2.27 USD)
11:35:28 <ern> .balance
11:35:28 <Wallet> ern: • Your balance is: 0.00018422 XMR (≈0.07 USD)
11:42:51 <Mochi102> .balance doge
11:42:51 <Wallet> Mochi102: • Your balance is: 0.217 DOGE (≈0.11 USD)
11:42:57 <Mochi102> .balance
11:42:58 <Wallet> Mochi102: • Your balance is: 0.0025431 XMR (≈0.91 USD)
11:43:19 <Mochi102> .balance XRP
11:43:19 <Wallet> Mochi102: • Your balance is: 0.0025431 XMR (≈0.91 USD)
12:09:55 <kloinka[m]> Is this official "The Monero Channel" where world changing tech is discussed or a shitcoin penny arcade?? .lol
12:10:39 <raecarruth> both?
12:10:46 <moneromooo> Neither.
12:12:52 <azy> .balance xrp
12:12:52 <Wallet> azy: • Your balance is: 0.00190328 XMR (≈0.67 USD)
12:13:46 <Mochi102> Just retire now azy
12:18:12 <MrSenshi[m]> Hmm...
12:18:15 <MrSenshi[m]> .faucet
12:18:15 <Wallet> MrSenshi[m]: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
12:18:18 <azy> kloinka[m], brings up a valid point
12:19:00 <MrSenshi[m]> Tip bot & faucet?
12:19:04 <MrSenshi[m]> Huh
12:19:21 <MrSenshi[m]> It doesn't provide enough funds to even allow for a transaction to occur, does it?
12:19:38 <azy> yes, this isnt bitcoin
12:19:54 <MrSenshi[m]> Yes it doesn't or yes it does?
12:20:10 <azy> yes
13:02:42 <chamberle> hello
13:04:17 <chamberle> why is 1.5 and not anything else
13:04:18 <chamberle> size_t base_requested_outputs_count = (size_t)((fake_outputs_count + 1) * 1.5 + 1);
13:05:52 <moneromooo> Because if it was something else, people would ask about that something else.
13:06:54 <moneromooo> If you change it to, say, 1.8, and if you use a third party daemon, the daemon would be albe to fingerprint you.
13:07:18 <moneromooo> But since you don't use a third party daemon since you know the risks, it doesn't apply.
13:07:42 <moneromooo> In that case, feel free to change it to something significant higher than 1, it doesn't matter.
13:10:31 <chamberle> how much is fake_outputs_count
13:14:02 <moneromooo> 10 IIRC
13:14:34 <moneromooo> (may be different from pre-rct outputs, if you have any)
13:14:49 <chamberle> thank u
15:22:30 <gingeropolous> i love how some folks just assume data integrity. here, download this data file you paid for. hash of the file? why would u need that?
15:23:04 <gingeropolous> all of our filesystems and network are perfect! so, its fine.
15:23:06 <gingeropolous> like jebus
15:23:43 <hyc> well, yeah. this isn't the stone age of acoustic modems running over noisy voice-grade copper wires
15:25:30 <hyc> I remember benchmarking crc16 and crc32 functions back in the days of kermit and xmodem
16:58:10 <ghosthell>  Non Terrestrial Or Terrestrial Beings which can help me with Trans Universal Transportation (Please PM Me)21
18:37:36 <asymptotically> ErCiccione: (replying to https://twitter.com/HavenoDEX/status/1388624001124143107 but i dont have twatter) - what is the benefit of mining with haveno instead of just using any other monero mining pool?
18:38:17 <sethsimmons> It could be another pool, it just matters that the user proves they performed work up to whatever threshold.
18:39:49 <asymptotically> so you mine monero and get it like normal? or does some special dex magic happen in the middle?
18:40:12 <sethsimmons> It's all just theory at this point, so those kinds of details would have to be fleshed out.
18:40:32 <ErCiccione> that was just as idea. We are not planning to implement that feature for now.
18:40:49 <sethsimmons> Could mine the entire amount necessary for bond, could mine to some set threshold of hashes to lower barrier to entry, etc.
18:41:32 <asymptotically> oh does it require a small deposit before you can even buy monero with fiat? and this is a way for people to bootstrap it without having to buy monero elsewhere
18:41:57 <sethsimmons> Yes, there is always some requirement to ensure people don't just DoS offers
18:42:07 <asymptotically> okay that makes sense, sounds like a good idea
18:42:21 <sethsimmons> Some bond to ensure it goes through or the maker gets some recompense for their time.
18:42:24 <sethsimmons> Same model as Bisq overall there AFAIK
20:02:16 <mawk> oh monero what have you done
20:02:28 <mawk> monerod starting straining my disk extremely in the last few days
20:02:40 <mawk> is there an attack or something? I ended up having to take down my node
20:03:16 <sethsimmons> What indicates "straining my disk extremely"?
20:03:27 <sethsimmons> Disk IO usage, storage space usage, something else?
20:03:38 <sethsimmons> I haven't heard anyone else talk of an issue around that lately.
20:13:55 <selsta> mawk: do you have open rpc port?
20:15:01 <selsta> nothing visible on my full nodes
20:15:15 <mawk> sethsimmons: I'm using hdd and not ssd
20:15:35 <mawk> and, well disk read or write speeds are maxed out
20:15:46 <selsta> are you fully synced?
20:15:51 <mawk> yes
20:15:57 <selsta> is rpc port open?
20:16:04 <mawk> I had an open rpc port yes selsta
20:16:08 <mawk> hm
20:16:11 <mawk> no, just on LAN
20:16:18 <mawk> and with password
20:16:38 <selsta> then there is not much that should be disk io expensive
20:16:52 <mawk> weird
20:17:05 <selsta> was it persistent after restart?
20:26:51 <mawk> after restarting the node? yes, I can try again and make some measurements
20:47:18 <solominer> hey there
20:54:59 <Mochi102> You get all synced up solominer ?
21:17:48 <solominer> of course not, Mochi102...
21:19:04 <solominer> but i've switched back to blockchain import - it's actually faster than download, for whatever reason
21:19:19 <solominer> block 1702190 / 2359887
21:24:37 <Mochi102> You're almost there.
21:24:50 <Mochi102> Just 4 or 5 days left hey?
21:28:40 <mfoolb> .faucet
21:28:40 <Wallet> m​foolb: How many letters​ in point
21:28:43 <mfoolb> 5
21:28:44 <Wallet> mfoolb: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000012 XMR to mfoolb [5c0dbea4] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01668796
21:29:52 <solominer> I should be mining since yesterday, Mochi102!
21:30:18 <Mochi102> solominer, what would your hashrate be?
21:30:21 <Mochi102> .faucet
21:30:23 <Wallet> Mo​chi102: What number ​is FOUR
21:30:26 <Mochi102> 4
21:30:26 <Wallet> Mochi102: @bonuspot tipped 0.000006 XMR to Mochi102 [6ade9181] Wait ≈1 day 24 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01668196
21:36:35 <solominer> Mochi102: https://xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=Intel%28R%29+Xeon%28R%29+CPU+E5-2620+v3+%40+2.40GHz
21:37:12 <Mochi102> and how many of those do you have solominer ?
21:38:36 <solominer> Mochi102: sorry, i've meant https://xmrig.com/benchmark/5XsNTY
21:39:20 <solominer> a shame L3 is too low so i can only use half of the cpu.................
21:42:12 <Mochi102> You're going to solo mine with that?
21:43:01 <Mochi102> At 2650 h/s with network diff of 3.05e+11 your expected time for find a block is 1.15e+08 s or 1334.01 days.
21:44:44 <MrSenshi[m]> Maybe this is a stupid question, but how does the Monero community feel about the PRISM consensus engine?
21:44:45 <solominer> i know it's like a lottery but I'll be trying for a few weeks, since there are reports of people who found a block after little time with VERY little H/s
21:45:19 <MrSenshi[m]> <MrSenshi[m] "Maybe this is a stupid question,"> I heard about the paper through Charles Hoskinson meming about Doge. Then I looked into it...
21:46:39 <MrSenshi[m]> It seems to provide similar security guarantees to PoW nakamoto consensus with a much lower latency and with much higher throughput.
21:46:53 <MrSenshi[m]> I'm shocked that people haven't been racing to adopt it...
21:46:59 <MrSenshi[m]> What am I missing?
21:48:20 <solominer> is prism proof of stake?
21:48:21 <MrSenshi[m]> Anyway, any comment on the topic would be massively appreciated.
21:48:24 <MrSenshi[m]> <solominer "is prism proof of stake?"> No
21:48:51 <MrSenshi[m]> At least, the proposed variant isn't
21:49:35 <MrSenshi[m]> I think that Cardano adopted concepts stemming from PRISM in it's PoS design though.
21:50:28 <MrSenshi[m]> Haha, I notice everyone is leaving as I message, I can't be that boring can I?
21:52:01 <onf> That's a correlation, not causation
21:52:03 <solominer> bye folks
21:52:27 <onf> In other words, they would leave regardless
21:55:02 <MrSenshi[m]> Oh don't worry, I wasn't being serious
21:55:36 <MrSenshi[m]> But yeah, I'd like to know how everyone feels about PRISM.
21:56:25 <onf> Okay, I wasn't sure if you are :D
22:15:31 <onf> Does anyone know why is I2P support implemented using SOCKS and not SAM?
22:52:53 <louipc> whats sam? sounds proprietery
22:55:29 <onf> https://geti2p.net/en/docs/api/samv3
22:55:34 <onf> louipc:
22:56:18 <selsta> what's the advantage?
22:56:27 <selsta> socks can be used with both tor and i2p
22:56:55 <selsta> SAM requires extra code, what would be the advantage?
22:58:08 <onf> it's designed in a way to not leak metadata [afaik]
22:58:45 <louipc> i'd guess whoever implemented didnt wanna bother learning SAM
23:00:35 <louipc> extra codes good if it leaks less tho
23:03:01 <selsta> onf: which metadata gets leaked?
23:06:46 <onf> selsta: look, I'm no expert on i2p or anything like that; I just remember the i2p devs say that SAM should generally be preferred over SOCKS.. something along the lines of "SOCKS is for performance, SAM is for anonymity" iirc
23:07:13 <onf> so I was just curious why monero chose to implement SOCKS instead since i2p has dedicated protocols for this stuff
23:11:02 <louipc> i'd say stick it up as a feature request on github
23:12:20 <endor00[m]> one advantage of SAM would be the ability to treat other i2p nodes as "regular" peers
23:12:30 <selsta> https://geti2p.net/en/docs/api/socks
23:12:57 <selsta> the metadata leak mentioned here is in regard to running regular programs over i2p which is not the case with monerod, as the code was specifically written for i2p
23:13:32 <endor00[m]> basically monerod would tell the router to create a dedicated set of tunnels automatically, rather than requiring the user to set up the proxy tunnel manually
23:18:25 <selsta> also I don't see how using SAM would reduce metadata
23:19:01 <selsta> unless the idea is SAM means that someone has to add extra i2p support so they would try to also avoid metadata leaks
23:19:07 <selsta> but that's nothing inherently SAM related
23:40:15 <burp> I think the fear for socks were stuff like DNS leaks
23:40:35 <burp> but if you're careful and do it properly, there should be no problem
23:40:47 <burp> eh, as selsta said