00:11:56 <Norkle> .faucet
00:11:57 <Wallet> N​orkle: Of 9 +​ 5, which is 5
00:12:00 <Norkle> 5
00:12:00 <Wallet> Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000049 XMR to Norkle [215fac74] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01688131
03:42:16 <apotheon> 18:37 < louipc> you writing that by hand or wot
03:42:25 <apotheon> yes, airgapped
03:42:32 <apotheon> of course
03:42:41 <apotheon> No Such Agency requires it.
09:34:02 <madawa> hello
09:36:31 <Mochi102> hello
09:38:05 <madawa> there is a problem mining with arm cpu
09:38:35 <madawa> this fix here is not working
09:38:36 <madawa> https://github.com/SChernykh/RandomX/commit/2ba7df2844df1f12d5b820d62c992777a6e82d50
09:41:48 <moneromooo> Define "not working".
09:42:24 <madawa> monero crash after mining starts
09:42:39 <moneromooo> Do you have a stack trace ?
09:43:34 <madawa> how to do that "gdb ./monerod" ?
09:43:56 <moneromooo> Yes, then: run FOO, with FOO being whatever command line options you usually use.
09:44:02 <moneromooo> ie, run --offline
09:44:09 <madawa> ok
09:44:24 <moneromooo> And after it crashes: bt
09:46:21 <sech1> does xmrig mining work though?
09:46:53 <madawa> https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/pull/2077
09:46:59 <madawa> here says that works
09:48:01 <madawa> i must create a debug version right?
09:48:42 <moneromooo> A stack trace for a release version should give some rough idea of whether it's crashing in that code or not.
09:49:04 <madawa> ok
09:49:10 <moneromooo> It's more likely to crash in the actual mining than codegen I think.
09:49:44 <moneromooo> Or, who knows, maybe that intrinsic is actually mucking up the cache. Unlikely but...
09:49:51 <sech1> Last I checked ARM mining, xmrig worked on most CPUs. Not sure about monerod, but it should work with that fix
09:50:28 <madawa> i think that fix for monerod is not right smth else must be added
09:50:55 <sech1> We need a stack trace from the crash
09:51:08 <sech1> I have to go now though, will check later
09:52:33 <azy> .faucet
09:52:35 <Wallet> ​azy: How many cha​rs in pushes
09:52:37 <azy> 6
09:52:37 <Wallet> azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000016 XMR to azy [5dbf3524] Wait ≈1 day 5 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01687391
10:52:07 <madawa> hello again
10:53:16 <madawa> gdb crash together with monerod so cant keep anything even after doing "set logging on"
11:02:31 <rottenwheel> https://twitter.com/rottenwheel/status/1393882510803841024
11:07:52 <raecarruth> guten tag rottenwheel :)
11:08:13 <raecarruth> what is that corny shit you posted rottenwheel o_0
11:10:54 <rottenwheel> Your mom did it for me.
11:34:50 <pixelized[m]> did you draw the boy with the cars or was that a pre-existing image?
11:34:53 <pixelized[m]> rottenwheel
11:35:34 <rottenwheel> Pixy someone on reddit does them and sends me a PM so I promote their work around.
11:35:54 <rottenwheel> this is the creator: https://www.reddit.com/r/moonero/comments/ndl1wc/you_either_die_a_hero_or_live_long_enough_to_see/
11:36:05 <rottenwheel> they won the recent meme contest whatever.
11:37:01 <pixelized[m]> right
11:37:03 <pixelized[m]> it's a cool image
12:02:38 <madawa> whyle trying to have debug version compile stops http://paste.debian.net/1197761/
12:02:47 <madawa> with release everything works
12:03:00 <madawa> everything compiles until end
12:03:20 <madawa> aarch64-android
12:28:46 <parazyd> .beg
12:28:46 <Wallet> p​arazyd: First num​ber in 69
12:28:50 <parazyd> 6
12:28:50 <Wallet> parazyd: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000083 XMR to parazyd [22da58f8] Wait ≈1 day 1 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01686561
12:28:59 <parazyd> .bal
12:28:59 <Wallet> parazyd: 0.000031 XMR (≈$0.01)
15:23:13 <throwd> Did you ever get it running madawa
17:17:36 <walton> .duckcall
17:17:36 <Wallet> walton: ・゜゜・。。​・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'
17:20:17 <moneromooo> .befr
17:20:17 <Wallet> moneromooo:  No treats.. Try .reload
17:20:32 <moneromooo> .help reload
17:20:32 <Wallet> moneromooo: Help: .reload - Reload your gun
17:21:26 <walton> .beg
17:21:28 <Wallet> w​alton: How many letters in whi​te
17:21:35 <walton> 5
17:21:35 <Wallet> walton: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000008 XMR to walton [61fad4f5] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01686481
17:21:45 <walton> .begmore
17:27:10 <moneromooo> .reload
17:27:10 <Wallet> moneromooo: You're reloaded with 2 bullets & 2 treats.
17:27:14 <moneromooo> .befr
17:27:14 <Wallet> moneromooo: SHE GOBBLED THE TREAT! Time: ≈9 min 37.51 sec Lucky Duck! You get 0.00000008 XMR! [7c88eb2d] Ratio: 3 of 3 Treats: 1 of 2
17:27:23 <moneromooo> Oh, so that a food gun too. Nice.
17:28:55 <apotheon> That's why I previously suggested people should befriend the ducks.
17:29:58 <apotheon> It's a weird game.
18:06:54 <Metamorphosis> .duckcall
18:06:54 <Wallet> Metamorphosis: No duck for you! (Try tomorrow or add a bribe to the call)
18:06:58 <Metamorphosis> .beg
18:06:58 <Wallet> Me​tamorphosis: How m​any characters in PYN
18:07:00 <Metamorphosis> 3
18:07:01 <Wallet> Metamorphosis: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000004 XMR to Metamorphosis [360e5fb1] Wait ≈1 day 8 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01686433
18:25:33 <xmr_> https://xmrig.com/benchmark/5XsNTY
18:26:22 <xmr_> Why does xmrig use only 6 of 12 threads? I've tried --threads=12 already
18:28:12 <nioc> you need 2MB L3 cache per thread
18:30:01 <sech1> that xeon has 15 MB L3 and enough L2, so it could in theory run 7 threads, but our tests have shown that N threads = N cores is usually faster on Xeons
18:30:26 <sech1> oh right, 1.5 MB L2 = enough only for 6 threads, this is why
18:39:49 <apotheon> Who's going to adopt the nick ElectricMonk now?
18:41:33 <xmr_> Is threadcount directly proportional to hashrate? So when I add another CPU with 4 max threads, I won't reach any more than 4500H/s?
18:42:36 <DirkGently> sadly this name is already registered
19:02:04 <volantaryism1[m]> twitter.com/herdalert
19:02:21 <volantaryism1[m]> Twitter account to track transactions that stand out
19:02:36 <volantaryism1[m]> Only pointing out high fees right now
19:05:53 <volantaryism1[m]> I had a look at some of the high fee txs on an explorer and it is super easy to eliminate decoys in some cases (based on fee levels)
19:07:18 <Mochi102> lol
19:07:52 <Mochi102> what a joke
19:08:50 <volantaryism1[m]> I found a high fee (0.01xmr) tx with 2 inputs, both input rings only had 1 ring member with high fee txs
19:10:18 <azy> what does it meeeeeen
19:10:33 <volantaryism1[m]> No idea why people are paying $5 when they can pay $0.005 and get it confirmed in the same time
19:11:16 <endor00[m]> Could be some weird wallet implementation
19:11:45 <volantaryism1[m]> azy: people who pay high fees consistently end up with reduced anonimity sets
19:12:35 <endor00[m]> I saw a presentation a while back, looking at tx metadata on the chain. Even a few years back, there was a small group of transactions that consistently paid far higher fees than the rest of the network
19:15:59 <DirkGently> there was an exchange that did this
19:42:24 <xmr_> any incoming firewall ports needed for solomining on a full node?
19:44:52 <hyc> no
19:44:58 <moneromooo> 18080 if you want your blocks to go to incoming peers.
19:45:02 <hyc> can open the p2p port if you want to serve other peers
20:31:52 <xmr_> does xmrig solomining need a wallet file to work or just a wallet address (so i can delete the wallet file after writing down the seed) ?
20:33:01 <hyc> just the address
20:33:32 <hyc> you'll want a wallet somewhere if you want to verify any rewards you received
20:36:15 <xmr_> can't i just check xmrig's output for that? it'll surely tell me about rewards and about found blocks, doesn't it?
20:51:23 <jumper> Hi, I'm thinking about buying XMR and was wondering what the general opinion on LocalMonero is.
20:51:46 <azy> positive
20:51:56 <azy> consider bisq
20:52:26 <xmr_> another guy who found a block after 30 days with only 7H/s https://youtu.be/LXMYU8iiCwM?t=178
20:54:12 <xmr_> azy: what's the difference buying XMR with fiat on bisq vs. localmonero?
20:54:25 <xmr_> I'm a xmr newbie
21:02:21 <jonah_xd[m]> Bisq uses bitcoin localmonero uses xmr
21:03:16 <jonah_xd[m]> So bisq you are forced to go through bitcoin
21:03:19 <jonah_xd[m]> This means its fee
21:03:31 <jonah_xd[m]> Meanwhile localmonero is direct
21:05:08 <xmr_> due to its popularity, it might anyways be better to buy BTC with fiat and then exchange to XMR, i guess?
21:09:16 <jonah_xd[m]> Yes i don't see a problem with that.
21:09:22 <jonah_xd[m]> Except the fee
21:11:21 <xmr_> I still dont understand the fees
21:13:12 <volantaryism1[m]> xmr_: bitcoin has high network fees, if you buy xmr directly you avoid the fee
21:15:00 <xmr_> but with xmr it's much harder to find someone offering them to me - especially at market price.
21:18:39 <xmr_> e.g. on localmonero i can see the cheapest offer at 341.65 EUR per XMR while market price is €309.13
21:19:58 <moneromooo> You mean market price is 341.65 while you have a massive discount elsewhere :)
21:25:30 <xmr_> this leads me to an interesting question
21:29:18 <xmr_> Could it be that the price trend of XMR in euros does not actually mean that XMR is becoming worth more and more, but that the euro is becoming worth less and less?
21:30:20 <moneromooo> Both. Compare how much food you can buy with either.
21:30:39 <apotheon> xmr_: yeah, it's both
21:37:26 <xmr_> moneromooo: Interestingly, the massive money printing of euros has not yet affected consumer prices.
21:38:13 <Mochi102> it's coming
21:38:13 <xmr_> But once it starts, it will go very quickly
21:38:57 <Mochi102> They say 'pre-pandemic' levels soon though.
21:39:03 <Mochi102> Which is total bullshit.
21:39:57 <Mochi102> Yuo can't kill half of the small and medium businesses and then come back like it never happened... building back better.
21:40:11 <pixelized[m]> yup, damn right
21:40:40 <Mochi102> Don't know what those euro politicians think is going on.
21:40:42 <pixelized[m]> do you guys reckon that moving funds from eur/usd to xmr is a smart move for these reasons?
21:41:17 <xmr_> thats why i'm gonna do it.
21:41:20 <Mochi102> pixelized[m], I've no idea what the 'smart' move is these days.
21:41:51 <Mochi102> I thought they wouldn't be able to hold shit together back in 2008... but look at where we are now.
21:42:06 <jumper> Just split your funds up. Something has got to hold value, even if it's cigarettes :D
21:42:36 <xmr_> you shouldnt put everything in crypto though. I'll try goold, silver, crypto with 33% each.
21:42:39 <Mochi102> It's a game of chess right now. USA is just printing like mad and basically thinking nobody will call their bluff. Anybody who thinks about calling the bluff knows the whole fiat system is going to implode.
21:43:25 <jumper> btw, bisq is running super slow on my machine somehow...
21:43:53 <xmr_> listen to your machine and delete bisq
21:44:08 <Mochi102> I think countries are flooding themselves with 'refugees' so they have an adequate very cheap labor force when everything goes to hell.
21:44:29 <louipc> good idea
21:44:37 <pixelized[m]> ah yes, pyramid scheme economy
21:44:47 <Mochi102> always has been
21:45:04 <Mochi102> only governments are allowed to run pyramid schemes though
21:45:16 <pixelized[m]> besides, the value they provide will soon vanish when the 'alla hu'akbar' protests get to the point where they start burning all jewish buildings
21:45:27 <pixelized[m]> 'whoops there went the banks'
21:45:52 <Mochi102> sorry, you lost me there
21:46:06 <pixelized[m]> ah it's a recent thing
21:46:11 <louipc> they just build a wall
21:46:20 <pixelized[m]> you know how israel has been getting rained on by rockets
21:46:27 <louipc> and put armed guards everywhere
21:46:41 <pixelized[m]> well, in response, a tonne of protests occurred in all sorts of large european cities
21:46:46 <pixelized[m]> 'free palestine' etc. etc.
21:47:19 <pixelized[m]> france and the uk, and, well, all other typically peaceful western european countries have had to deal with public transport shootings and whatnot already
21:47:51 <pixelized[m]> but i jokingly said that if this pattern from bus shooting to clogging up entire city centers continued, the economic value these immigrants provide would be lost as a consequence of damage to 'jewish institutions'
21:48:23 <pixelized[m]> so.. complicated joke
21:48:38 <pixelized[m]> also calling banks jewish institutions, which they obviously aren't
21:49:01 <pixelized[m]> but i've been told that stereotyping and ironic racism are funny
21:49:26 <Mochi102> We're in #monero
21:49:34 <pixelized[m]> you asked for explanation :P
21:49:46 <azy> this is library
21:49:52 <Mochi102> No, I just said that you lost me.
21:50:14 <pixelized[m]> alright, perhaps i wrongly assumed that you wanted me to explain what i said
21:50:25 <pixelized[m]> it was a fitting and short response in context about immigrant pyramid economy
21:50:30 <Mochi102> Which was more of a 'me not wanting to participate' in that conversation.
21:50:40 <pixelized[m]> aaaah... alright
21:51:11 <xmr_> TRANSACTION FEES PAID (LAST 100 TRANSACTIONS)
21:51:13 <xmr_> Bitcoin (highest)	0.039700	$ 1773.5261
21:51:18 <xmr_> insane?
21:51:28 <pixelized[m]> i'd say 'well then you should have said so' but i'm sure i just didn't get it
21:53:04 <Mochi102> sorry pixelized[m], just have to remember which channel this is
21:53:48 <pixelized[m]> no need to say sorry for anything!
21:53:53 <pixelized[m]> but yeah, thanks, will do :P
22:01:50 <Metamorphosis> .beg
22:01:50 <Wallet> Metamorphosis: OOPS! 30 min penalty. 19 hours to go.
22:03:11 <xmr_> Where do the xmr transaction fees go to? the miners?
22:03:55 <louipc> yes
23:17:02 <rottenwheel> https://gratuitas.org/Atomic-Kicks-USA-Shipping-included-p344208019