00:04:58 <latiers> make -j4
00:05:06 <latiers> wrong channel sorry
00:05:25 <apotheon> Is that "communist" username for real?
00:09:00 <DisBotXMR1> <Duvio | Linux&FOSS are communist> Yes, it's in my username
00:09:16 <DisBotXMR1> <Duvio | Linux&FOSS are communist> Actually it's a nickname on the discord server
00:13:15 <apotheon> 00:09 < DisBotXMR1> <Duvio | Linux&FOSS are communist> Actually it's a nickname on the discord server
00:13:25 <apotheon> I'm aware of how this Discord relay presents usernames.
00:18:28 <DisBotXMR1> <Duvio | Linux&FOSS are communist> Nice, i am too
00:18:39 <latiers> same here
02:39:54 <KSaunderson> moneromoo: I tried to open a pull request for issue #5979 but i am getting: " An owner of this repository has limited the ability to open a pull request to users that have contributed to this repository in the past. " error
02:49:13 <gingeropolous> KSaunderson, yeah, there's been a spammer on the github repo so unfortunately this is the way things are
02:49:34 <gingeropolous> if you paste the patch into a pastebin someone can make the PR on your behalf
02:49:44 <KSaunderson> sure
02:49:48 <KSaunderson> does this link work for you:
02:49:51 <KSaunderson> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/compare/master...ivans3:issue-5979-ivans3-1?expand=1
02:50:57 <gingeropolous> it does actually. i guess i could do it?
02:51:29 <gingeropolous> can u suggest a good title
02:52:02 <KSaunderson> hmm, the title of the ticket is: " Option to set external advertised IP #5979 "
02:54:39 <gingeropolous> KSaunderson, https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7707
02:55:41 <KSaunderson> awesome thanks, i have some testing steps too in case someone wants to give a try
02:56:08 <gingeropolous> thank YOU!
02:56:09 <KSaunderson> how do i get past that restriction?
02:56:11 <KSaunderson> np
02:57:40 <gingeropolous> uhm, im not sure. mitigating this is still underway.
02:59:05 <KSaunderson> gotcha
03:11:06 <shabash> are there any australia exchanges which still sell monero?
03:20:38 <nioc> shabash: I am not from there but I understand that it is difficult.  Tradeogre might work
03:21:33 <nioc> Also for p2p maybe localmonero
03:21:51 <nioc> Not sure how active it is there
03:25:41 <KSaunderson> Tradeogre should work but watch out it sometimes get flagged at high risk!
03:26:08 <KSaunderson> as*
03:32:22 <shabash> ive done 2-3 sales on localmonero
04:32:54 <kijari[m]> Just going to share because this is kind of sad. I had some other people try the PinePhone I got for a few minutes to ask what they thought about the usability of the phone. All of them said that it has all of the features they need for a reasonable cost. I was amazed until almost all of them ended with "I'm going to keep using my iPhone/Android Phone though. I think I'm upgrading again when my contract expires". Society
04:32:54 <kijari[m]> scares me. I'll mention as well that they all know how to use Linux. Unfortunately using Linux doesn't always translate to caring about privacy or reasonable tech prices.
04:36:49 <Mumuks[m]1> Phones are a status object. Like having a certain car, or certain sneakers.
04:37:32 <Mumuks[m]1> Samsung and Apple have worked really hard to socially engineer this perception on people.
04:38:14 <KSaunderson> i lost my phone while drunk
04:44:00 <DisBotXMR1> <TcidenebEH> Maybe in some countries but not mine. Only among stupid kids is it one.
04:48:47 <Mumuks[m]1> Good for you, but in my experience it is like that everywhere, even in poor countries
04:49:07 <Mumuks[m]1> Can I ask in which country it is not like that?
05:27:41 <kijari[m]> Sorry, had to play with my cat for a while. I wish phones and shit were not status symbols. I drive an old ass car that most people look at and think of it as a rust bucket and use lots of older technology where possible because it's just better than modern equivalents. For example, my landlord's washer and dryer is old enough that if anything goes wrong, we can buy parts without a single issue, fix it, and it's good for
05:27:41 <kijari[m]> quite a few more years. Same goes for older fridges and freezers, and even phones (although modern phones like the PinePhone and others allow you to repair your device easily). People see that as extremely weird but I don't care about status symbols whatsoever.
05:31:13 <kijari[m]> The funny thing is that my devices, appliances and vehicle can easily be repaired when they break for extremely cheap. Everyone that has newer hardware in my area has a tendency for it to break within a couple of years and they'll just buy a new one because it's apparently cheaper than repairing it. Hell, I've seen people walk out of stores with a brand new phone and within a week have the entire front and back completely
05:31:13 <kijari[m]> cracked. They then just use Apple Care or other equivalents to indirectly throw it out and get a new one.
05:45:04 <anonmon777[m]> <swrangsar "or is amd ryzen 3900x a better c"> I guess the Threadripper and the Epyc CPUs are quite similar as long you don't need lots of lanes. If this is true the Threadripper should be the better option.
05:47:20 <anonmon777[m]> <anon_udxf6fdz[m] "But dont use tx xtra"> Why?
05:48:18 <anonmon777[m]> I asked some questions at https://forum.monero.space. It seems the forum is very inactive.
05:49:31 <anonmon777[m]> Where is the biggest Monero community? On Matrix? Justin talked about bringing all people to Matrix. What room is the best for Monero related questions?
05:49:54 * anonmon777[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MSUDeytmuacSeLsbPEVlEreu/message.txt >
05:50:07 <anonmon777[m]> Copy of: https://forum.monero.space/d/88-monero-payment-deployment-questions-monero-inner-workings-question
05:50:33 <kijari[m]> Go to "Join Room" and just type "Monero". It's basically the most populated rooms on Matrix that are the best for getting responses to your questions in a timely manner.
05:50:53 <kijari[m]> Oh, wait. Are you on IRC?
05:51:30 <anonmon777[m]> No. Is IRC the better option?
05:52:23 <nioc> matrix is bridged to irc so.......
05:52:46 <kijari[m]> No, I was just wondering because I saw the # beside your name which confused me for a moment. If you're on matrix you can just do what I said above and you'll find a community pretty much instantly.
05:53:28 <anonmon777[m]> <kijari[m] "Go to "Join Room" and just type "> This was meant for IRC?
05:55:10 <anonmon777[m]> The biggest community I found is this room.
05:55:22 <anonmon777[m]> I am new to Matrix. Please help me out.
05:57:13 <kijari[m]> Add room -> Explore public rooms -> Change Matrix Rooms to All Rooms -> You should see Monero Mining as one of the top results followed by many others. Steps I provided primarily work if you are on the matrix.org homeserver.
05:58:11 <mly> d
05:58:29 <anonmon777[m]> <kijari[m] "Add room -> Explore public rooms"> Exactly. Thanks. What room do you recommend? I have some technical development and Monero inner workings questions.
05:59:24 <anonmon777[m]> XMR mining sounds like not the best room choice.
06:00:37 <kijari[m]> I'd mainly recommend rooms which are more general like Monero Community, this room, and others that are similar.
06:02:22 <anonmon777[m]> At Monero Community I don't have permission to write. Is this a Matrix thing?
06:03:48 <kijari[m]> Generally speaking those communities will have something in the description along the lines of "If you can't type in chat, follow [link here]" or write it out in the room information itself. Just depends on the room.
06:09:44 <anonmon777[m]> <kijari[m] "Generally speaking those communi"> Nope. Can you join and write in the #freenode_#monero-community:matrix.org or #monero-dev:matrix.org or #freenode_#monero-dev:matrix.org ?
06:12:15 <anonmon777[m]> Do I have to wait before I get write permission for preventing spam?
06:12:15 <kijari[m]> Oh, it's one of those servers. I think for the #freenode servers you either need to be assigned permissions or in some they require you to sign up for an IRC account and somehow link it. Don't ask me how that works because I've never done it in all honesty.
06:13:02 <anonmon777[m]> Because you use IRC and be fine?
06:15:26 <kijari[m]> I used to use IRC but I abandoned it a while back. I was able to talk without an account for many months without an issue and suddenly every single server required me to make an account to talk or join, hence me leaving. Now I just use Matrix because it makes more sense in my case.
06:25:46 * anonmon777[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BFbPgdaehrfTAFmUxNaZcNaG/message.txt >
06:50:43 <pqmvffiy> Did you know that all witdraw-buyer-seller-depoist chains are trackable in Monero? No? You should have read Breaking Monero. How many people are you endangering with your 'privacy' coin?
07:17:23 * yugyug  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/cqDtpSVWIyVNlLUOEqEvISeN/message.txt >
07:28:26 <fehho[m]> freenode_anonmon777[m]: for libraries, look at this page, for each language there aren't many choices. for extra data, all that you have is the (integrated) payment ID, which is a small hex string
07:28:35 <fehho[m]>  * freenode_anonmon777[m]: for libraries, look at this page https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/, for each language there aren't many choices. for extra data, all that you have is the (integrated) payment ID, which is a small hex string
07:52:22 <yugyug> freenode_anonmon777[m]: I would like to add that I certainly prefer subaddresses over integrated addresses, as some privacy is compromised with integrated addresses (linkability).
08:05:48 <selsta> anonmon777[m]: 6) no
10:07:45 <sech1> sethsimmons one more for your Bitcoin’s Fungibility Graveyard https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n63tew/monero_bitcoin/
10:09:44 <kayront> we gonna need a mass-grave soon
11:05:25 <qggqtcfzywgf> needmoney90: Let me quote your hero. 'How do I ban FUK? AAAHHHH I don't remember. youtube.com/watch?v=mdLfkhxIH5Q Keep tryin' champion.
11:18:22 <Inge-> sech1: the burn... https://twitter.com/bitcoinpasada/status/1390234470851125249
11:32:00 <gingeropolous> shum?
11:33:00 <Inge-> indeed
12:11:03 <hyc> sad
12:21:10 <hyc> not sure monero would have made a difference. if he had to convert the crypto into local fiat for living expenses, he would probably have been nabbed no matter what coin it was
12:22:54 <hyc> would need to know the rest of the story...
13:04:06 <sethsimmons> <sech1 "sethsimmons one more for your Bi"> Not sure this one qualifies or not, but there are much larger fungibility fish to fry today:
13:04:25 <sethsimmons> First compliant block mined on Bitcoin: mempool.space
13:04:37 <sethsimmons>  * First compliant block mined on Bitcoin: https://mempool.space/block/000000000000000000003f8cb66fe1ecfb38754abc9c4d4a62b71de45fef8777
13:05:14 <sech1> that one needs more info on how he got burned. Probably when exchanging to fiat
13:06:33 <sethsimmons> Yeah it doesn't really specify any chainanalysis etc.
13:06:43 <sethsimmons> Trying to keep the vague ones off of there
13:09:44 <asymptotically> sethsimmons: which pool actually found it?
13:10:01 <hyc> marathon
13:10:09 <sethsimmons> The new Marathon one: https://sethsimmons.me/posts/fungibility-graveyard/#compliant-mining-and-virgin-bitcoin
13:10:15 <sethsimmons> 7th largest pool in the world
13:10:26 <sethsimmons> (not a new pool, but a pool newly compliant)
13:10:45 <asymptotically> rip bitcoin. we hardly knew ye
13:22:05 <sethsimmons> The miner’s sacrificed a maximum of 6% of transaction fees in the block (0.00330944BTC), but that could have just been due to mempool variance etc.
13:22:05 <sethsimmons> Note that the transactions they left off only comprised 0.0005% of the total block reward, making it a minuscule loss.
13:22:38 <DisBotXMR1> <ceruleous> >send tainted coins to tesla's address >now they cant spend it because no miner will process their transaction they're non-compliant
13:22:41 <DisBotXMR1> <ceruleous> devilish
13:23:06 <DisBotXMR1> <ceruleous> https://tenor.com/view/devil-smile-gif-10081266
13:24:07 <glix> sethsimmons: what's a complaint block?
13:24:24 <sethsimmons> <glix "sethsimmons: what's a complaint "> https://sethsimmons.me/posts/fungibility-graveyard/#compliant-mining-and-virgin-bitcoin
13:24:25 <DisBotXMR1> <ceruleous> transactions with good boy coins only
13:24:40 <sethsimmons> fully compliant with U.S. regulations, including anti-money laundering (AML) and the Office of Foreign Asset Control’s (OFAC’s) standards
13:24:58 <moneromooo> It sounds so good, compliance. Makes you think they're just doing nice things, making sure everything's properly setup etc. We should rename the STASI Community Life Compliance Office.
13:25:16 <sethsimmons> Such a nice ring to it :D
13:25:28 <sethsimmons> You'd make a great minister of propaganda, moneromooo
13:25:58 <glix> my dumb ass read it as "complaint" *facepalm*
13:26:10 <sethsimmons> heh
13:26:39 <glix> that's some nosy shit though..
13:27:27 <moneromooo> Easy fix: you're supposed to read with your eyes.
13:27:30 * moneromooo flees
13:28:19 <glix> lol
13:28:51 <glix> what happens to such "dirty" bitcoin in the future? will they just be discarded?
13:29:21 <sethsimmons> Hopefully (for the owner) another pool mines them.
13:29:38 <sethsimmons> But it likely will start to mean delays/higher fees in the future.
13:33:04 <sech1> eventually they'll be unmoveable, as soon as "compliant" pools get 51% and start orphaning non-compliant blocks
13:33:50 <sech1> some say that only 30% is enough for the chain reaction. Other pools won't want to lose money on orphaned blocks and switch to be compliant quickly.
13:34:59 <glix> shit! I have so much to learn and read about
13:35:06 <Mochi101> we all do
13:36:56 <sethsimmons> <glix "shit! I have so much to learn an"> Read these :)
13:37:25 <sethsimmons> Basically if compliant pools are >51% Bitcoin is dead
13:37:26 <Inge-> Have Fun Staying Censored
13:37:28 <sech1> When that happens, Bitcoin's path to the dark side will be complete
13:37:52 <Inge-> maybe you will get BTC.West and BTC.AxisOfEvil
13:38:06 <sech1> sethsimmons 51% is not required, I saw some game theory paper that claimed 30% and a threat of orphaning blocks is enough to flip other pools
13:38:24 <sethsimmons> Yes, I linked above
13:38:33 <sethsimmons> It actually starts at 10% in theory
13:38:49 <sethsimmons> But there is a good rebuttal of the <51% arg linked above as well
13:39:18 <sech1> there's always a chance other pools will team up and orphan "compliant" blocks :D
13:40:38 <sethsimmons> Yes, once the gain a higher and higher share of global hashrate they can push game theory further and further towards incentivizing compliant mining for purely financial reasons
13:43:25 <dEBRUYNE> one has to ask how much miners favor ideology over profits though
13:43:28 <dEBRUYNE> Many prefer the latter
13:43:53 <dEBRUYNE> In any case, this problem can only be addressed by addressing the root cause
13:44:08 <sethsimmons> The rebuttal from 6102Bitcoin implies that <51% miners remain (in most situations) more profitable by blindly mining the highest fee TXs and not censoring
13:44:58 <sethsimmons> <dEBRUYNE "In any case, this problem can on"> Yes, this starts to break down the entire game theory of mining (incentivize "good" miners through financials) and starts to split up miners based on ideology
13:45:24 <sethsimmons> Crazy to see what we've been talking about for ages coming true
13:46:10 <Inge-> didn't the two btc pools that together were >51% take ideological action to reduce their hashrates?
13:46:30 <dEBRUYNE> Wasn't even two pools lol, ghash had >50% for quite some time
13:55:14 <Inge-> Jimmy Song: "Bitcoin doesn't NEED to change anything to be successful"
13:56:24 <raecarruth> sounds like the rallying cry of every legacy system that ever existed
14:03:26 <rbrunner> My testnet-only Monero learner's web wallet went fully public: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n67wx1/techwallet_a_new_and_quite_special_monero_web/
14:03:35 <rbrunner> Let's see how long my servers hold ...
14:05:04 <sethsimmons> This is awesome
14:05:56 <lza_menace> hm, i can't reach server, conn timeout
14:09:05 <rbrunner> No problem (yet) from my place
14:16:33 <Inge-> fun
14:17:27 <Inge-> aaand I got a tx into the testnet mempool
14:20:10 <rbrunner> Yeah, testnet sure can use some more transactions. As TechWallet can show rings, I saw how often my own outputs occur as decoys, simply because not much to use is around :)
14:20:12 <PapuaHardyNet> sethsimmons: hey, just want to say that your blog posts got me interested in monero
14:20:21 <PapuaHardyNet> thank you for effortposting
14:20:55 <sethsimmons> Glad to hear it, entire goal is just to make sure people are educated and informed and can make the right decision for them :)
14:21:08 <sethsimmons> I, obviously, believe the right tool for most is Monero, and so focus my efforts there.
14:26:16 <glix> PapuaHardyNet: what's rbrunner's blog?
14:26:36 <rbrunner> No, sethsimmons has a blog ...
14:26:46 <glix> oops sorry..
14:27:28 <rbrunner> Maybe this: https://sethsimmons.me/
14:27:58 <glix> thanks!
14:30:13 <rbrunner> Looks like somebody is already stress-testing my poor technet daemon with a 51-input tx. Good :)
14:35:14 <Inge-> lol
14:35:29 <Inge-> oh cool I can get the keys for the wallet.
14:36:26 <Inge-> rbrunner: is the code available on github or similar as well?
14:38:51 <rbrunner> No. It's quite far from "publishable" still. And there is quite some infrastructure behind it that's not trivial to set up, 2 daemons, 6 RPC servers, 2 block explorers
14:39:49 <rbrunner> But nothing against open-sourcing it, in principle.
14:44:38 <rbrunner> And I consider it an open question whether there is real demand for something like this. My earlier website "Play with Monero addresses and seeds" (the root https://monerotech.info) was an utter failure in this regard.
14:46:20 <PapuaHardyNet> rbrunner: testnets are always nice to have, but very complex to set up, right?
14:48:37 <rbrunner> Well, it's mostly getting all those command-line parameters for the Monero daemon right. It's not even a real net in my case, a single daemon running somewhere is enough to support TechWallet.
15:02:40 <rbrunner> Well done, technet block 1869131 hit the limit of 300 KB. Looks like the wallet still needs some more rate-limiting, too easy to escalate.
16:51:36 <Inge-> lol. Peter brandt falling out of btc maxi favor https://twitter.com/PeterLBrandt/status/1390319383969292296?s=19
17:10:33 <lekstpdqu> FUK has bееn intеnsеly hostilе to Monеro for ovеr 4 yеars. Making minеrs for Monеro, making a pool for Monеro, making codе that Monеro copiеd, not using bugs to stеal millions from еxchangеs. Wow. Such grеat hostility.
18:11:16 <azy> .faucet
18:11:17 <Wallet> ​azy: How long is the string CB​K
18:11:20 <azy> 3
18:11:21 <Wallet> azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000039 XMR to azy [10e95463] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01706278
18:11:23 <KSaunderson> 3
18:11:36 <azy> bich it didnt axe u
18:13:17 <rbrunner> [10e95463] hu?
18:44:38 <yanmaani> Looking to rent a VPS, where can I pay with Monero?
18:45:06 <sethsimmons> <yanmaani "Looking to rent a VPS, where can"> https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/#hosting
18:45:18 <yanmaani> thanks
18:46:19 <sethsimmons> np
19:08:50 <Duvio> .faucet
19:08:51 <Wallet> Duvio: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
19:08:53 <Wallet> D​uvio: Of 3 and 5, ​which is 3
19:09:02 <Mochi101> .faucet
19:09:02 <Duvio> 0
19:09:02 <Wallet> Mo​chi101: Of 2 or 5, which i​s 5
19:09:03 <Wallet> Duvio: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
19:09:06 <Mochi101> 5
19:09:07 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.000003 XMR to Mochi101 [9b694307] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01705978
19:09:22 <Duvio> What, how does this work
19:09:35 <Duvio> .help
19:09:35 <Wallet> Duvio: I'm a cool multi-coin multi-platform bot by Bill48105. Docs: https://bill48105.github.io/wallet/ | My core commands: .balance .deposit .faucet .ping .soak .tip .val .withdraw  | .help <games|share|misc|other> to see others | .help <cmd> for more details.
19:09:50 <Duvio> .faucet
19:10:57 <apotheon> Duvio: I think it decided you were too slow.
19:11:25 <apotheon> (the first time)
19:11:46 <apotheon> (When you tried .faucet again, it seems to have decided you did so too quickly.)
19:24:52 <botcoinnotbot[m]> anyone know how large the testnet is
19:25:23 <asymptotically> what metric? hashrate?
19:25:38 <selsta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.8G May  6 21:23 data.mdb
19:31:14 <botcoinnotbot[m]> ty
19:43:10 <apotheon> fun times: https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/21/05/20984171/crypto-exchange-kraken-to-provide-user-records-to-irs-as-per-new-court-order
20:02:08 <botcoinnotbot[m]> noob question here, how to i point monerod towards the testnet
20:02:49 <moneromooo> Add --testnet to monerod and monero-wallet-{cli,rpc}
21:47:46 <mkafizhv> I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.
22:16:08 <apotheon> So . . . this isn't strictly Monero related, but . . . I think the Monero community is probably the most likely place for me to get an answer that makes sense and isn't full of BS:
22:17:05 <apotheon> Does anyone here know anything abou the value of the specific mechanisms Ergo offers for its privacy functionality (other than the MOAR JOINS: IT GOES UP TO ELVENTY-SIXTY-FOUR part)?
22:17:15 <apotheon> s/abou the/about the/
22:17:42 <apotheon> I know it uses something related to zk-SNARKs, but I don't know if it as the same sorta custodial issues as the Zcash situation, for instance.
22:17:49 <apotheon> s/it as/it has/
22:17:52 <apotheon> ugh
22:18:01 <Duvio> .faucet
22:18:03 <Wallet> D​uvio: How long is the wo​rd class
22:18:06 <Duvio> 5
22:18:07 <Wallet> Duvio: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to Duvio [a852f4d2] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01704271
22:52:27 <[r|y`a_n]> 2021-05-06 22:50:52.315 E notify::send_txs provided message exceeding covert fragment size
22:52:29 <[r|y`a_n]> hmm
22:53:19 <[r|y`a_n]> my transactions are stuck and monerod is telling me this when I try to relay_tx
22:53:27 <[r|y`a_n]> what do
22:54:28 <selsta> are you using tor / i2p?
22:54:35 <[r|y`a_n]> yes
22:54:55 <[r|y`a_n]> tor, it's always a pain in the ass but never seen this one before
22:55:48 <[r|y`a_n]> did a huge sweep_all which generated loads of transactions
22:57:37 <selsta> you can try to restart with --tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050,disable_noise
22:57:46 <selsta> in case it is a bug with noise
23:00:12 <selsta> opened an issue for it https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7708
23:00:27 <[r|y`a_n]> selsta: that solved the issue
23:00:57 <[r|y`a_n]> also tried just restarting monerod without the ,disable_noise first in case that would unclog it
23:01:23 <[r|y`a_n]> simple restart did nothing, disable_noise immediately resolved the issue
23:01:48 <selsta> yep seems to be that the tx was too large so it a limit
23:01:57 <selsta> though that should not happen
23:02:01 <selsta> hit*
23:02:29 <[r|y`a_n]> there were quite a few inputs but not an *insane* amount
23:02:32 <[r|y`a_n]> maybe 1-2k
23:04:05 <selsta> disable_noise has a bit less privacy as your daemon stops sending random noise over tor and also does not use dandelion++ on the clearnet side
23:04:29 <selsta> but it still hides your IP with Tor
23:04:35 <[r|y`a_n]> yeah, I read up on it before switching it on
23:35:03 <vcbzoryo> Do you think that you are too intelligent to be in a cult? Then I would encourage you to look into how any other cult works. They aren't populated by stupid people. Aum Shinrikyo was almost exclusively university professors and graduates. For Pete's sake - they had the know-how and means to make WMDs.
23:35:04 <vcbzoryo> As to Monero, I would encourage you to look at Jonestown mass-suicide. You know why Jones killed them all? Because he was afraid he is loosing control over them. People like that will burn everything around them rather than give up control. Being smart doesn't make you immune to being in a cult. This is the most valuable lesson Monero taught me.
23:38:19 <newjuice[m]> lol
23:39:33 <newjuice[m]> I am amazed their still think that FUD is working. Its very low budget and targetting an innefective place to target lol
23:41:08 <newjuice[m]> Im honestly it took this long for any change in strategy, they must finally realize how futile it is.
23:41:20 <newjuice[m]> * Im honestly it took this long for any change in strategy, they must finally realize how futile it is for that type of a fud campaign.
23:45:52 <newjuice[m]> In other news, getmonero's list of merchants should probably be updated, some of the links are dead or clearly inactive
23:48:33 <abcdefg_irssi> wtf is the syntax to send monero in the cli
23:48:41 <abcdefg_irssi> transfer address amount
23:48:49 <abcdefg_irssi> like what am i missing here
23:55:12 <abcdefg_irssi> Error: amount is wrong:
23:55:14 <abcdefg_irssi> getting this
23:55:19 <abcdefg_irssi> then it tells me the address and amount
23:55:26 <abcdefg_irssi> ??
23:56:00 <cation21> ,faucet
23:56:04 <cation21> ,tip
23:56:14 <cation21> .faucet
23:56:16 <Wallet> ca​tion21: Ho​w many letters in XVG
23:56:18 <cation21> 3
23:56:18 <Wallet> cation21: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000043 XMR to cation21 [d4be2324] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01703841