00:00:33 With --seed-node 00:00:59 Or am I misunderstanding the function of that 00:05:40 monerod will find peers by itself 00:05:54 there are hardcoded seed nodes to get an initial peer list 00:06:15 you can specify your own with --seed-node but that should not be necessary 00:08:59 Thanks 00:24:40 what's the min ram requirement for the daemon? 00:25:06 would i bet able to hack it decently with swap ? 00:25:30 got an old machine on ddr and i ain't adding more 😂 00:26:30 I run monerod on 2GB RAM VPS 00:30:06 can't do 1GB eh? 00:30:12 it's metal 00:30:30 anyone tried that small? 00:30:40 i'd imagine there has to be some "iot" shit that is that low 00:30:49 * i'd imagine there has to be some "iot" shit that low 00:36:59 ssd storage & swap space might work just slow. have a go at it 00:38:23 ouch 0.117t 2.279g 1.318g S 1222:05 monerod 00:43:05 get moar ram 02:21:21 Anyone using xmrig-proxy? I've got it built and running, however whenever I try to run it in the background, either via setting it in the config or the cli, I get `read error: "end of file"` on the worker node. I don't see this behavior when running it in the foreground, so I don't think it's a config file issue. 02:30:51 meh, i'll just run it in tmux :D 02:52:56 disorganized: there is also #monero-pools although it is a quiet time of the day now 03:13:38 anyone know where that monero governance flowchart is? 03:13:49 well, not flowchart, but path? 03:17:06 found it: https://www.getmonero.org/2016/02/10/monero-missive-2015-year-in-review.html 03:44:23 Is it possible to earn Monero for running a public node? 03:44:32 I thought a read they implemented some type of fee system for that 03:47:21 You can require that anyone using your node as a remote node mine for you, look at the --rpc-payment arguments when you do monerod 03:49:06 two big ones look like --rpc-payment-address and --rpc-payment-allow-free-loopback though I've never used them 03:52:23 Bill48105: i think it's worth a shot 03:52:30 i'll report back when i get that machine up 04:23:26 ok cool lord good luck 04:37:44 thx bruv 04:48:55 How much btc can you exchange to xmr through cake wallet 04:48:59 Looking to do like $1200 05:07:28 parenly they rip you on fees 05:07:32 with "wyre" 05:07:39 if doin fiat 05:09:54 wyre takes a large cut in fiat, changenow takes a large cut in cryptocurrency 05:10:55 Current conversion for .0021 BTC is 4.2997 XMR 05:13:09 So yeah $1,200 BTC for $1,188 XMR for $1,200 BTC. Not horrible (1% conversion), just not great 05:13:40 * So yeah $1,200 BTC for $1,188 XMR. Not horrible (1% conversion), just not great 05:17:11 if it ain't atomic swaps why bother not using a real exchange is my thinking 05:27:42 Are atomic swaps working 05:35:13 Anyone know a guide to setting up Monero on TAILS? 05:37:29 hello 05:38:06 Hi :) 05:39:39 this is the main monero chat yeah? 05:39:43 for matrix at least 05:40:26 Yes, and it is bridged with the freenode channel 05:40:34 nice 06:23:23 Roths: but regional or theme monero rooms can get more traffic than this one, so you probably want to check 06:50:16 I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero - poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag? 06:51:48 kek never gets old 12:55:15 FIY, you want to know why you are getting those daily messages? Cults NEED to control information. That's why people like lh1008 get savagly attacked (also called disconnection) for even talking to me. Break the information embargo, break the cult. Who would sign up to Scientology if they knew from the get-go that is is about a sci-fi alien overlord? Who would sign up to MAGA if they knew what a loser Trump is? 12:55:15 You don't sign up to MAGA to do a failed Viking LARP and some time off in club fed. You sign up because you feel like shit and they promise to give you self-respect. It is a total lie of course, you are still a joke even when cosplaying a Viking. Just like Monero's promise of privacy is a lie. 12:57:52 sAvAgElY aTtaCkEd 13:02:27 Based 13:02:30 Keep the FUD going 13:02:36 why? 13:02:45 I need to stack more while I still can 13:02:52 fair enough 13:02:57 I dont wanna an hero when it goes to the moon 13:05:52 https://entrepreneurshandbook.co/behind-closed-doors-the-u-s-is-quietly-backing-a-replacement-global-currency-77048f2c1eb6 13:05:57 SDR never died 13:16:28 random fact: the recent EU drone regulation calls for insurance denoted in SDR 13:27:57 mofos 13:28:03 good way to get it started 13:28:05 tie it to "defense" 13:28:26 or is that civilian drone use 13:28:50 civilian, what else ... 13:29:38 bruh i dun know what ze germans up to 13:30:18 rules don't apply to rulers 13:30:40 indeed 14:15:08 xmr.is was talked about here in the last days, seems like they exit scammed 14:15:46 so soon? they weren't around all that long 14:16:35 About 5-6 weeks lol 14:16:42 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/lrz7gr/new_site_xmris_answers_all_our_prayers_fast_low/ 14:18:02 the send us monero and we will send you cash by mail was suspicious from the beginning 14:30:57 .faucet 14:30:59 somethingUniqueR: 1/4 of 16 14:31:03 4 14:31:03 somethingUniqueR: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000004 XMR to somethingUniqueR [6795a282] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01236398 14:31:17 .balance 14:31:17 somethingUniqueR: • Your balance is: 0.0000058 XMR (≈0 USD) 14:31:26 I am rich 14:35:45 .tip somethingUniqueR 0.0001 14:35:46 hmmp: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command. 14:35:46 hmmp tipped 0.0001 XMR (≈$0.03) to somethingUniqueR [bc3dec53] 14:41:03 Haha that was very generous thank you hmmp 14:42:15 wonder when that bot will exit scam 14:42:32 the Wallet bat? 14:42:35 bot 14:42:51 I wonder where that money comes from 14:45:15 The great hasher in the sky or maybe Bill is Satoshi 14:46:24 when you play jackpot and lose, the money goes to the bot, which it uses when people call fountain 14:46:27 .jackpot 0.0001 14:46:28 rupee[m]: [ $ | $ | & ] 3x » SHARING 0.0003 XMR [ef375590] | @bonuspot soaked 0.00002 XMR (0.0003 Total) upon 15 users @ 572 minutes charolastra selsta hmmp Bill48105 jnedhzdfkd rupee[m] hyc somethingUniqueR stev3 Wallet dEBRUYNE thrmo Mumuks entry1 hakprigjh [97fecbc1] 14:46:40 I won! :) 14:46:59 communist bugs bunny: we won 14:47:00 we all did 14:47:05 yes, the wallet bot 14:47:41 rupee wants us to feed moneros into it and then will shut it down and fly to caribian 14:48:03 too much to ask? 14:48:34 just need another 0.004 cents and my flight is paid for 14:50:59 why not buy a jet with all that loot 14:59:57 .jackpot 0.0001 jet pls 14:59:57 rupee[m]: [ ~ | * | * ] 0x » DONATED 0.0001 XMR [39d869ea] 15:00:07 :( 15:03:19 f 16:07:17 selsta: what will be in v0.17.2.0 16:08:14 didn't write release notes yet, mostly bug fixes for daemon 16:08:20 GUI will have a couple cool new features 16:08:58 thx 16:13:54 I'm seeing `Host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx blocked` messages by monerod. How does it determine which hosts to block? 16:15:35 if hosts do something that no honest host would do 16:16:06 like claim one thing and then send you something else 16:18:54 really? how do you know? 16:19:26 donkeydonkey[m]: deleted reddit and telegram account, also complains on reddit 16:20:18 dang 17:49:13 Does anyone have a recommended hot wallet for iOS/Android? 17:49:13 Ledger Nano X for cold wallet. 17:50:53 Cake wallet is said to be good. 17:51:37 Try trust wallet 17:52:04 Cake wallet also fine 17:58:23 Okay, thanks for recommendations. Open to any others as well. 17:58:42 Monerujo is also nice on Android, it supports Ledger 17:59:06 Though they recently start whitelisting dash, so I would not recommend it. 17:59:07 +1 for monerujo 17:59:19 i'd use monerujo if it had an address book :/ 17:59:29 moneromooo: that is kinda overblown, Cake Wallet also allows exchanging to Dash 17:59:44 Wnitelisted or just all the set an exchange has ? 17:59:56 doesn't look as nice but allows you to generate an "invoice". meaning putting a text and total value into the qr code the other party scans 18:00:12 Becayse fuck it, I'm stopping mentioning cake too if it whitelisted it. 18:01:39 Best would be to blacklist dash/bytecoin/bsv, but I'll settle for not whitelisted :) 18:02:13 most mobile wallets have an exchange tab where they use a swap provider, I don't know if cake explicitly white lists it or just lists all possible options 18:02:53 If it has dozens including obscure stuff, it's probably not a whitelist. 18:03:04 what does "white listing" it mean? 18:03:11 Regarding what I just exchanged $1200 btc to xmr in cake yesterday 18:03:42 cake list 16 coins you can convert to, including DASH 18:03:45 Having a list of stuff you specifically allow, rather than not filter, or having a list of stuff you specifically disallow. 18:04:20 That seems alow. I'll plug mymonero until someone says for sure I guess. 18:04:25 photonshift[m]: mymonero's good :D 18:04:36 Can exchange to: XMR ADA BCH BNB BTC DAI DASH EOS ETH LTC NANO TRX USDT USDTERC20 XLM XRP 18:04:47 Though it's... different. It's not the monerod client others are. 18:05:06 When you hit exchange you can click Convert to and it will show you all of those options 18:05:07 Thanks, that looks like whitelist. FFS. 18:05:28 vikrantsCake[m]: is this a whitelist ? 18:06:59 What do u mean? Is what a whitelist? 18:07:25 Is cake wallet supporting dash explicitely, or is it just the full list the exhange has ? 18:07:36 The recent reviews on all these apps look sketchy lol. Goal is to hold btc and xmr on iphone in one place. App dumb as possible. 18:08:07 photonshift[m]: CakeWallet, Monerujo and MyMonero are all fine 18:08:19 I have monerujo on android. 18:08:33 Exchange has xmr, ltc, bch, eth, dash, Ada and some others 18:08:56 On the wallet side we only have btc and xmr 18:08:59 Are there currencies on that exchange that cake wallet won't exchnge with ? 18:09:56 I don’t understand the question 18:10:21 changeNOW has dozens if not hundreds of supported coins, but cake only has 16. Why is DASH one of the 16, is the question 18:10:22 Are (the set of currencies the exchange has) and (the set of currencies cake wallet supports exchanging with) the same ? 18:11:19 That question makes no sense or i don’t understand it. 18:11:32 OK, I'll take that as a no. Thanks. 18:11:52 Overblown my ass. 18:11:58 Changenow has hundreds of coins... we don’t support all... only support these: 18:12:11 Thanks, that was my question indeed :) 18:12:25 * vikrantsCake[m] uploaded an image: (50KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/ATEeHYkPcuRPWqvuGDGvgFIB/ima_19eb23f.jpeg > 18:12:26 Is dash support a mistake btw ? Since it's, you know, an old scam. 18:12:29 And 18:12:40 * vikrantsCake[m] uploaded an image: (50KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/YfXbFtDHCKYgTSiBDkyybExD/ima_5bef06d.jpeg > 18:13:59 Dash is popular for some people.. it’s a coin. It’s there if someone wants to convert to or from. Why? What’s the issue? 18:14:27 It has quite a scammy history. 18:14:37 Just that I don't want to be suggestin using a wallet that whitelists that scam. So I'll stop. 18:14:59 Ok 18:15:29 It’s a coin.. some people like it. Is BCH a scam? I think so. 18:16:02 If i can introduce those people to Monero, through cake, i will. 18:16:48 bsv certainly is and it's not in the list. 18:18:36 add mobile coin too 18:18:38 :D 18:18:43 So? We only listed like 13 coins. Many scams are not on the app. When we chose which coins to list , we went by popularity. 18:19:28 If it makes you feel any better we won’t be adding a dash Wallet. 18:19:51 That makes me feel not worse, but not better either :D 18:21:33 Well that’s a positive step 18:21:44 😬 18:21:46 vik maybe you should allow Dash only in one direction :D 18:21:50 hi 18:22:18 so that people can convert their Dash into Mooneros but not otherwise 18:22:41 Hmmm 18:22:59 I don't get the issue here lol 18:23:10 Dash pays a bunch of people to integrate it, so people sometimes want to spend it 18:23:29 that's a wallet UX feature people want more than they care if it's a scam or not - they aren't holding Dash with the app 18:23:34 Why not for all coins... why only dash? Anyway? The wallet is completely separate from the exchange function. 18:23:46 they're only ever holding BTC or XMR in Cake 18:24:04 Yeah we don’t offer dash wallets 18:24:13 It's just I'm cranky and don't like people enabling scams. Oftentimes I just ignore but here it hits too close to home since I used to mention cake when people asked for an ios wallet. So I feel... like having done somehting iffy. 18:24:30 guys what is the easiest way to convert from XMR to USD 18:24:36 using the official Monero wallet 18:24:48 But hey, still a free world in some places, so I'll just stop mentioning it too. 18:24:51 I don't really see how there's any problem with allowing to exchange to whatever coins they want. 18:24:54 I don't like promoting scams either but I see this far more on the side of adding functionality to a monero wallet 18:25:20 Traveller37: some centraluzed exchange like binance, kraken, the like. 18:25:45 promoting cake does not equal promoting dash. Seriously. 😂 18:25:48 Because dash in the exchange part? If you feel that strongly, I’m not going to try to convince you. 18:25:51 Crap, these also have dash. 18:25:52 moneromooo: https://www.kraken.com/en-us/prices/dash-price-chart/usd-us-dollar?interval=1m 18:25:55 :p 18:26:25 Hrm. Why are so many people just not giving a shit. 18:26:39 That's how we end up with so many cunts everywhere. 18:26:49 where can you convert XMR to from another coin and DASH isn't one of the options? 18:26:55 All evil needs is for good men to do nohting ,etc. 18:26:56 Thank you guys 18:27:12 Fuck sake, take a fucking stand, you're in monero after all., 18:27:27 IT's not even a big stand. 18:27:43 but, almost everything in this space is a scam 18:27:51 R u upset because we add btc? 18:27:56 But hey, I guess I'm still using github after it got bought by massive arseholes I guess, so I can't really talk. 18:28:11 i think bch is legitimate 18:28:13 No. Nevermind, communucation's too hard here. 18:29:01 Thanks for the amazing work you do and you’re always there for the cake team. 18:29:17 Yeah well, sometimes I feel like I should find another project somewhere. 18:29:26 We can consider removing dash, but then where does it end? 18:29:29 Too much shit around and people dont' care, 18:29:38 We are hiring in cake 😘 18:29:46 personally I don't care if dash is there as a buried payment option 18:29:47 Thanks, but not interested. 18:31:09 Honestly, I think I have a particular dislike to that one due to the amount of dishonest lying dash fuckits being real asswipes a few years back. 18:31:23 So I guess ignore me. I'll stop mentioning these and we're good. 18:32:31 gonna put you out to pasture 18:32:50 No I’m glad you said something. I’m always willing to learn more and get feedback from Monero OGs as yourself. I don’t make many moves for Cake without first considering how the Monero community will take it. 18:35:31 tbh, the usual thing I'd do in that situation is to make a replacement, but I'm really not into the mobile dev so that'd take a lot of work :/ 18:35:49 *ramble* *ramble* *ramble* 18:36:12 And I'm still finishing my previous replacement for good stuff that went pear shaped 18:36:16 * moneromooo finishes wine glass 18:36:27 ooh what wine 18:36:54 There's always more stuff to do isn't it. 18:42:27 See my loyalty to Monero 18:43:28 i've been wanting to explore the cake wallet, has anyone loaded it with graphene as their mobile handset? apologies if it's the wrong room to post in 18:43:45 * vikrantsCake[m] uploaded an image: (156KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/oqKHthHsglFFtWohivDqrVuk/ima_42e530d.jpeg > 18:43:56 based 18:44:07 Put on a monero shirt to get the dash stench off 18:44:24 lol. i have a monero shirt to wash the btc away 18:44:32 Hehe 18:44:43 I am using graphene. Used Monerujo with it. And before that had cake on it. No problems with the app. 18:45:10 thanks for the quick response. 18:47:04 deepfake vikrants 18:48:43 I'm using Monerujo on Graphene. I don't know whether that's the best wallet software to use on Android-based systems, but that's what I ended up installing. It works, though it's a bit quirky. 18:49:32 I'm using it with a specified node, not with the random assortment of nodes it offers by default, and I wonder whether network stuff might be to blame for the quirkiness. 18:50:01 The above was in response to the phone[m] and mechanic41turk[m discussion above. 18:50:03 * sgp_ uploaded an image: (806KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/csnNiIvNIVyQfpVUrByvQLVb/image.png > 18:50:05 we all know this is the real picture 18:50:08 err 18:50:21 pretend some more sane use of terms than just repeating "above" 18:50:37 ill also give it a try. i control my own nodes so will give it a shot either way 18:51:12 I'm still not clear on the situation with Cake. Something feels off, but I have nothing sensible to say about it. 18:52:00 now do the one with chainlink 18:52:47 do it yourself, takes 2 seconds lol 18:53:50 I ❤️ DASH 18:53:59 I Heart Dash 18:55:12 Do one with Zcash. I ❤️ T-Addresses. 18:55:46 lol. Why I am I not surprised. https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1379858565922312193 18:56:16 lol. watch them list mobilecoin 18:57:04 It seems effectively less private than Monero, but . . . subtly? 18:58:30

sigh 18:58:34 if they list it they literally have no reason to not list monero besides that they just don't want to 18:59:34 Isn't that the case currently tho? 19:02:34 https://darknetlive.com/post/new-dea-drug-report-highlights-the-darkweb-and-bitcoin/ 19:03:54 no mention of monero 19:04:21 they don't want to spake it 19:04:27 for fear the tinas learn the dark ways 19:04:59 they will have to next year when they can't talk about bitcoin anymore because noone uses it for drugs 19:05:29 if peeps start buying xmr the charlys lose ctrl 19:05:29 so far cake and monerujo work with my own nodes just fine. haven't tried a swap yet but can send/receive. appreciate the tips folks 19:06:02 How is it I'm suddenly encountering many people using the term "tinas", despite the fact the Thatcher government has been gone for decades? 19:06:31 charolastra: Does anyone still use BTC for drugs? 19:06:42 afaik no 19:06:52 . . . so that ship has sailed. 19:07:04 It's probably all BCH and Monero. 19:07:20 I'm not sure why someone would choose Dash or Zero. 19:07:22 yes, in the last paragraph they hint at using bitcoin as a synonym for crypto 19:07:27 ah 19:07:32 That makes some sense. 19:09:10 omg this is so sick 19:09:11 https://nitter.dark.fail/fluffypony 19:09:15 rss it bish 19:09:21 nittttterrrr 19:09:32 WTF is "bish"? 19:09:33 rss is great with nitter 19:09:41 dude this is so lit 19:09:41 basically pulling the tweets to my rss reader 19:09:45 hell yah 19:09:49 the revolution is on bish 19:10:19 deth to the daq 19:10:27 sad part is i run nitter node and i didn't realize i could rss it :-) 19:10:37 wew son 19:10:42 bruh 19:10:44 so sick it's nim 19:10:47 nim ftw 19:11:04 Here is rss feed of tweets from the supreme leader: https://nitter.dark.fail/fluffypony/rss 19:11:13 👍️ 19:12:20 I'm beginning to think people with [m] at the end of the name don't even speak English any longer. 19:12:24 ^!!! 19:12:52 this is the best thing since steem-forked 🙃 19:13:25 fuk tis seet 19:13:41 lol moooo 19:13:47 lol u 19:13:52 wut 19:14:04 yeet it 19:14:10 teet muh it 19:14:40 lel 19:14:52 need urban dictionary live translation 19:14:53 Hmm. I dare say something expected happened to my command of language. 19:15:01 paging Doctor Jane Goodall 19:15:02 sneed 19:15:37 moneromooo: seems that way 19:15:56 I guess experiment validates your theory ? 19:16:10 Thanks. 19:16:21 Not double blind though. I'm really, *really* not up for double blind. 19:17:05 moneromooo: I don't want to poke out your eyes, anyway. 19:19:10 now if only teddit worked like dis 19:21:32 Plebbit 19:22:41 teddit also does rss feed 19:22:47 howz 19:22:54 needz it 19:23:23 https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit/wiki#teddit-api 19:23:26 Here is r/Monero rss feed: https://teddit.net/r/monero?api&type=rss 19:24:02 thanks gingerop 19:24:16 holy crap 19:24:27 Someone actually cares enough about reddit for a "privacy front end". 19:25:05 :-) 19:25:10 mechanic41turk: 💋 19:25:36 i should force my gf's fw to redirect to teddit. lulz ensue 19:25:51 bruh 19:26:05 this is tip toes from inverting the internetz 19:26:11 even tinas can feel the lack of latency on these non-shit verions 19:32:24 RSS is the chadman's way of doing social media. RSS-ify everything! 19:32:50 yah 19:33:10 if it's pub sub, i'll be at the pub while you be my sub 19:33:14 Obligatory Luke-post: https://videos.lukesmith.xyz/videos/watch/551a1bfb-8a05-4cdb-b5d3-a42758991d83 19:34:28 u sure that url works for teddit eh? 19:34:48 i'm waiting for wsb posts 😂 19:34:48 lord_fomo: yes. 19:34:49 just tried it in feedreader. 19:34:49 that's what I have been using to pull monero reddt threads to my rss reader 19:34:58 kk 19:35:03 might just be quiet right now 19:35:19 lord_fomo: at start it should pull the latest 20 or something threads from it 19:35:32 so you should see some threads when you add that teddit rss link to your rss-reader. 19:35:35 i'm usin matrix widget 19:35:37 so it don't do that 19:35:39 but we'll see 19:35:47 I have no idea what that matrix widget is. 19:35:53 yah i know 19:36:03 it's workin well on nitter 19:36:04 man i luv that name 19:36:05 nitter 19:36:42 `twtr`, happier, more productive... comfortable at the gym 19:41:40 The real chad way is to not be using soycial media in the first place 19:42:05 I am yet too weak for that level of based-ness 19:42:21 But, yeah, every man yearns for a cabin in the woods. 19:46:35 "soycial media" hahaha 19:48:09 If I have one monerod instance in my local network that is fully synced, can I spin up a new monerod instance in the network, and use the first to sync the second? 19:49:17 you can copy the blockchain file 19:49:31 but you can also sync again if you want 19:50:51 yeah, I was hoping to not have to copy the blockchain file, rather point the second monerod at the first's ip address, and just have to copy the data over the network. 19:51:23 i do this 19:51:29 unless you count git based soc med 19:51:31 like gh 19:51:49 but i'd do src.hut if peeps like monero would 😉 19:51:54 or gitlab 19:52:55 mechanic41turk: i bet ur gf makes you twtr 19:55:43 Disorganized: ./monerod --add-exclusive-node 1.2.3.4:18080 19:56:14 but this will again verify the blockchain, if you only want to copy the data use something like rsync / scp 19:56:36 or the new one in rust 19:57:40 Hey 19:57:48 Running my own node any reason not to prune the block chain 20:01:22