00:17:13 <moneromooo> AFAIK https://github.com/jtgrassie/monero-pool works.
00:18:06 <moneromooo> There are two other main pool implementations AFAIK, zone117x's one (though the zone117x repo on github is unmaintained AFAIK, I don't know which fork is most current) and one by... M5M400_  I think ? No link.
00:18:24 <moneromooo> Would be nice to have up to date links on getmonero.org if someone knows.
00:24:16 <Elementoshi[m]> Any new progress on Kovri or Kastelo?
00:25:41 <rupee[m]> there's also snipa's, but looks like it hasn't been updated in a while: https://github.com/Snipa22/nodejs-pool
00:27:04 <rupee[m]> oh that might be the same one as M5M400
00:27:38 <moneromooo> Kovri's probably dead and buried by now.
00:27:58 <moneromooo> Unless underground development and a future massive code dump, but it doesn't seem likely.
00:28:18 <moneromooo> rupee[m]: that's the one I meant, thanks :)
00:28:22 <Snipa> Sxmr's pool base is built off nodejs-pool.
00:28:40 <Snipa> It's not entirely unmaintained it just hasn't needed many changes for the core functionality over the years.
00:29:24 <Snipa> I do need to go disable the BTC options now that ShapeShift and xmr.to API's are both gone.
00:34:50 <endor00[m]> copenhagen_bram: just use any other standard i2p client
01:16:27 <Elementoshi[m]> what about kastelo, is it still alive?
01:25:20 <TenFootAlice> alive but don't know how much activity there currently is
04:05:46 <M1kdos9b[m]> https://teddit.net/about
04:06:07 <M1kdos9b[m]> Privacy reddit guy takes monero donations
04:45:05 <M1kdos9b[m]> Test
05:08:09 <Bill48105> icles
05:09:19 <Bill48105> cool M1kdos what's his username on there we can tip using Wallet bot :)
05:10:14 <Bill48105> .tip u/Bill48105@reddit $0.01
05:10:15 <Wallet> Bill48105 tipped 0.0000464 XMR (≈$0.01) to Bill48105 on reddit [6a90b666]
05:10:24 <Bill48105> like magic
05:11:16 <Bill48105> on reddit you can message walletbot or mention it like u/walletbot balances
05:12:08 <Bill48105> just use care to specify coin unless you want to use doge which is the default.
05:12:58 <Bill48105> uses can set their default coin to xmr with coins command
05:13:41 <Elementoshi[m]> would a centralized exchange like kraken or binance allow me to buy just a small amount of monero at a time?
05:14:18 <Elementoshi[m]> the p2p ones like localmonero and bisq have nothing but offers where the minimum is $50, but what if i want to buy $5 worth of monero?
05:43:50 <Bill48105> not sure on what the minimums are but in many cases the withdrawal fee ends up a factor for many coins
05:50:04 <kalindrome[m]> I love how low the fees have been. Leagues better than BTC as far as I've seen
06:10:11 <fehho[m]> copenhagen_bram:  You could theoretically, but get eaten alive by bank processing fees.
08:18:25 <wolfkeeper[m]> Morning, I need some assistance please. I am moving over from windows to linux. There are so many versions available. Ubuntu is recommended for beginners, but would this be suitable if want to start mining monero?
08:21:49 <Inge-> yes
08:21:58 <M1kdos9b[m]> wolfkeeper[m] Debian is user friendly and stable
08:22:38 <M1kdos9b[m]> Ubuntu isn't bad either. Look at screenshots between the two and pick what you like. It doesn't matter that much
08:23:04 <wolfkeeper[m]> <1kdos9b[m] "wolfkeeper[m] Debian is user fri"> Awesome, thanks. I a bit new to linux....the OSi s downloadable for free from a 'distro' - this seems a bit dodgy. Is it legit?
08:26:53 <M1kdos9b[m]> "Distro" means distribution. Every Linux OS that's prepackaged for install is known as a "distro"
08:27:57 <M1kdos9b[m]> Ubuntu is an excellent start. Just download from their website and check the checksums if you know how
08:28:45 <wolfkeeper[m]> <M1kdos9b[m] "Ubuntu is an excellent start. Ju"> not quite sure - at does that mean 'checksums'?
08:31:49 <M1kdos9b[m]> It's a way of verifying that you downloaded an untampered or uncorrupted file. I wouldn't worry about that right now. Focus on giving Ubuntu a shot
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08:32:55 <M1kdos9b[m]> There will be some growing pains but if you have some savvy tech skills and patience it'll grow on ya
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08:34:44 <wolfkeeper[m]> <M1kdos9b[m] "There will be some growing pains"> thanks
08:38:57 <fehho[m]> Off-topic note, but if you are given the option while installing to have a "separate home folder", select that option. It will pay off if you decide to change your distribution since you can keep a lot of your documents and configurations that way.
08:39:39 <wolfkeeper[m]> another question - I've been looking into the mining of monero and trying to work out how profitble it is. soe sources say you can mine 1 monero a day, others one a month! So I have a nice  with good hardware a AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 12x Cores Unlocked CPU. would this beany good to mine a substantial amount?
08:41:36 <wolfkeeper[m]> <fehho[m] "Off-topic note, but if you are g"> Ah, ce, thanks will do that...
08:41:44 <wolfkeeper[m]> ... nice
08:41:56 <fehho[m]> Both of those numbers are very inflated. Maybe they were accurate many years ago. Current rate is .005/day on that CPU according to benchmarks
08:42:37 <fehho[m]> (in monero, spot price usd $1.22/day)
08:43:30 <wolfkeeper[m]> <fehho[m] "(in monero, spot price usd $1.22"> oh... so in your opinion is it worth mining?
08:47:17 <fehho[m]> wolfkeeper: It's free money (as long as it covers your electricity). The more important aspect is decentralizing the network, which you contribute to as long as you choose a small pool. Because Monero mines on the CPU, you can also mine other coins on your GPU at the same time, which currently tend to be more profitable because of GPU supply being choked.
08:47:28 <fehho[m]> Strengthening the network is priceless.
08:49:24 <fehho[m]> Though, in my opinion, running a public node is just as important as mining.
08:54:53 <raecarruth> o_0
08:59:15 <marmulak> It's free real estate
08:59:49 <marmulak> Whether or not mining is worth it is not an opinion, just a calculation
09:00:53 <fehho[m]> That would be the capitalist way of thinking about it.
09:11:47 <wolfkeeper[m]> <fehho[m] "wolfkeeper: It's free money (as "> thanks, that is very helpful.....i am all for everything monero stands for...
09:12:42 <wolfkeeper[m]> so how do I get into mining and on a small pool?
09:13:17 <wolfkeeper[m]> here's a very silly question... what internet speeds do I need?
09:16:56 <fehho[m]> For mining, speed isn't the concern, just consistency since no internet means you can't mine. But at this point, these are questions better answered in the monero mining chat.
09:17:32 <M1kdos9b[m]> Any internet speed will do. Download XMR-STAK or other software and simply point it at a pool. There's documentation on everything
09:17:40 <wolfkeeper[m]> <fehho[m] "For mining, speed isn't the conc"> thanks for all your help.
09:18:12 <fehho[m]> 1kdos9b: I'd recommend against XMR-stak, it's just worse than xmrig.
09:18:12 <M1kdos9b[m]> I recommend supportxmr pool
09:18:30 <M1kdos9b[m]> A bigger pool pays out more consistently
09:19:28 <M1kdos9b[m]> Sure sure, XMRrig instead of XMRstak. Sometimes a better miner comes along every year
09:19:49 <fehho[m]> Bigger pool also means that bigger pool has more of the global hashrate, if that pool gets too much of the hashrate then it could attack the network and destroy the price of your payout.
09:20:03 <fehho[m]>  * Bigger pool also means that bigger pool has more of the global hashrate, if that pool gets too much of the hashrate then it could attack the network and destroy the value of your payout.
09:20:35 <wolfkeeper[m]> <M1kdos9b[m] "Sure sure, XMRrig instead of XMR"> oh my.... so which one then...?
09:21:02 <fehho[m]> Or just straight up exit scam, and even if the owner is altruistic (they are) their controls could be hacked.
09:21:41 <wolfkeeper[m]> XMRig or XMRStak or supportxmr pool
09:22:23 <fehho[m]> The first two are mining software, the last one is a pool (and a big one at that)
09:23:24 <wolfkeeper[m]> Ok, so I download the mining software then select the pool? Which mining software is better?
09:24:06 <fehho[m]> My personal recommendation is moneroocean (a medium size pool)which provides and xmrig. Most pools will hand you a configuration file.
09:25:07 <ardent[m]> How good is the algo switching component of moneroocean? Is it comparable to using nicehash and exchanging?
09:25:11 <fehho[m]> https://moneroocean.stream/, find the help button bottom right for their guide. However unless you really want to jump in immediately, find some second opinions.
09:26:56 <fehho[m]> ardent: Never used nicehash so I don't know the question, but moneroocean's algo switching is fire and forget (if you use their fork of xmrig)
09:27:17 <wolfkeeper[m]> <fehho[m] "https://moneroocean.stream/, fin"> Awesome thanks.
11:40:05 <endor00[m]> <Elementoshi[m] "would a centralized exchange lik"> Every exchange has their own trading minimums and fees. Kraken allows you to buy/sell 0.05 xmr per trade, and the fees are very small if you're in the EUR area
12:14:55 <DisBotXMR2> <Fyse> if you're in Europe, I'd just recommend binance
12:29:07 <endor00[m]> Why? What are their EUR withdrawal fees?
12:47:55 <raecarruth> you recommend binance on what grounds DisBotXMR2?
12:48:26 <raecarruth> coinbase pro and kraken both have reasonable withdrawal fees
12:48:40 <raecarruth> bitstamp fees are higher but they are reliable
12:53:40 <moneromooo> Coinbase has monero ? I find that surprising, given how many times I've heard people complaining it doesn't and if it recently added it I'd expect lots of noise.
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13:41:28 <ry`an> Monero is not supported by Coinbase.
14:45:35 <DisBotXMR2> <TheLizardWizard4013> fuck coinbase
14:45:38 <DisBotXMR2> <TheLizardWizard4013> swag
14:45:52 <DisBotXMR2> <TheLizardWizard4013> :dab:
14:54:17 <endor00[m]> Random question: when beginning to run a pruned node, is there a check made to see if there's at least one full node in the available peer list?
14:55:56 <endor00[m]> Or would a check like that be "overdoing it" in terms of safety?
15:59:57 <ileile> !help
16:03:05 <moneromooo> endor00[m]: no
16:03:34 <moneromooo> (I assume when you say "full" here you mean "unpruned")
16:07:28 <endor00[m]> Yeah I mean unpruned
16:42:44 <Bill48105> ileile: beep boop bop. I'm a friendly robot. how may i serve your help command?
16:44:02 <Bill48105> there's pros n cons to everything from exchanges to pools. not just things under your control like personal preference but where you live or what funding sources you have..
16:46:03 <Bill48105> obviously what works best for someone in Amsterdam may not be great for someone in new York.
16:49:34 <moneromooo> Yeah, but nothing gonna work for someone in New York, so...
16:51:22 <Bill48105> lol bit legally or easily
16:51:45 <Bill48105> but that's kinda the point. someone in ny could just bitch everything sucks
16:52:00 <Bill48105> and someone else ny sucks just move LoL
16:54:30 <Bill48105> might as well argue if toilet paper roll should go over vs under with someone who owns a bidet
17:14:22 <JikanFenomen> hello
17:15:03 <moneromooo> hi
17:15:27 <JikanFenomen> Is this channel for XMR?
17:15:33 <moneromooo> It is.
17:16:12 <JikanFenomen> NIce
17:16:29 <JikanFenomen> What are u using for mining it?
17:17:02 <moneromooo> monerod, but I'm not a model to follow here.
17:17:55 <JikanFenomen> ok
17:18:35 <moneromooo> xmrig is the go to.
17:18:55 <moneromooo> You can mine with it either to the daemon or to a pool.
17:19:21 <JikanFenomen> MinerGate is my tool for mining
17:19:23 <moneromooo> If you go the pool way, try not to use the largest two.
17:19:25 <JikanFenomen> But...
17:19:34 <moneromooo> Oh you don't want that. They steal from you.\
17:19:35 <JikanFenomen> I'm using CPU mine
17:20:16 <JikanFenomen> Minergate stealing?
17:20:35 <moneromooo> Well, defrauding more than stealing really, technically.
17:21:44 <donkeydonkey[m]> csminer is cool
17:22:37 <JikanFenomen> xmrig, monerod or csminer? What is more usefull?
17:22:59 <moneromooo> To mine as fast as you can, not monerod.
17:23:23 <moneromooo> You can try the other two and compare. Never heard of csminer.
17:23:46 <JikanFenomen> I heard only name of this)))
17:23:49 <donkeydonkey[m]> https://cryptonote.social/tools/csminer
17:25:04 <moneromooo> Do you know it's legit, or did you just find it and assumed ?
17:26:27 <donkeydonkey[m]> someone on the chats recommended.
17:27:12 <JikanFenomen> csminer?
17:27:24 <donkeydonkey[m]> csminer is opensource zero fees. chats built in
17:27:29 <JikanFenomen> and what abou u?
17:27:38 <JikanFenomen> Do u recomend this?
17:34:38 <donkeydonkey[m]> monerod has the benefit of being the monero server. so you can be your own bank. and its super rad
17:35:59 <moneromooo> Not super fast for actual mining though.
17:38:09 <mawk> who's the cake wallet dev here already?
18:21:08 <AudreyP[m]> DisBotXMR2: Coinbase is great I deposit fiat into coinbase and convert it to USDC for free then send it to kraken, also I got a bunch of free cryptocurrencies for watching videos I haven't payed any fees my only complaint is it takes like 6 days for the banks add and subtract a number
19:06:58 <mawk> 2021-02-27 18:35:54.132 W There were 0 blocks in the last 20 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck.
19:07:01 <mawk> what does this mean
19:07:23 <mawk> do I have to open ports or something
19:07:25 <Bill48105> or you need to update
19:07:43 <Bill48105> is it fresh install
19:07:54 <Bill48105> .xmr info
19:07:56 <Wallet> Bill48105: Monero (XMR) • Ver: 0.17.1.7-release • Blocks: 2306251 • Diff: 292.98B • Conns: 12 • Last: ≈0.87 min • Avg: ≈0.91 min • Confirm: ≈2 min
19:08:22 <Bill48105> last block just happened and they're averaging once a minute right now
19:08:29 <moneromooo> It means just what is says. It saw no blocks in the lsat 20 minutes.
19:08:43 <mawk> I forward port 18080 already
19:08:50 <mawk> yeah moneromooo but it said it 6 times
19:08:52 <moneromooo> Normally it expects a block every 2 minutes on average, so 20 is a bit long, so it tells you.
19:08:57 <mawk> so I assume the "bad luck" thing isn't it
19:09:15 <mawk> it's very unfresh install Bill48105
19:09:19 <mawk> I'll try upgrading thanks
19:09:38 <moneromooo> Well, it's memoryless, so if a block isn't found after 20 minutes, you can still expect to wait 2 minutes, even though you've already waited 2.
19:09:41 <moneromooo> 20
19:09:50 <mawk> ah
19:09:50 <dEBRUYNE> mawk: If you type status into monerod, what does it show?
19:09:58 <mawk> Height: 2306252/2306252 (100.0%) on mainnet, bootstrapping from 167.86.109.142:18089 was used before, not mining, net hash 2.44 GH/s, v14, 12(out)+60(in) connections, uptime 0d 2h 34m 3s
19:10:08 <moneromooo> I got a few of those messages here, so it seems it's just bad luck.
19:10:15 <mawk> ah nice then
19:11:44 <moneromooo> It also uses the miner claimed timestamps IIRC, so some high hashrate joker can play silly buggers with it to some extent.
19:12:12 <mawk> ah I see
19:13:54 <moneromooo> Anyway, 0 in 20 is not too uncommon. You'll see a few of those every week.
19:14:16 <mawk> yeah
19:14:22 <moneromooo> And it's usually just bad luck. Or computer time being out of kilter.
19:15:10 <moneromooo> sync_info shows you your peers. If you have no peers, it's the reason.
19:16:43 <mawk> I have a bunch of them
19:17:13 <mawk> all at the same height as me
19:17:15 <mawk> so I guess it's fine
19:27:43 <moneromooo> Most likely, yes.
19:33:55 <Bill48105> yeah i get them sometimes too but if i get enough i know I'm overdue on update
21:07:09 <strike> .faucet
21:07:11 <Wallet> strike: How man​y #'s are in 565
21:07:18 <strike> 3
21:07:19 <Wallet> strike: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000044 XMR to strike [dc8ffdda] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0119056
21:07:29 <strike> .bal
21:07:29 <Wallet> strike: 0.0018233 XMR
21:07:47 <strike> .val 0.0018233 usd
21:07:47 <Wallet> strike: DURR.. 0.0018233 USD = 0.0018233 USD genious! [sic]
21:07:51 <strike> .val 0.0018233 xmr usd
21:07:52 <Wallet> strike: ≈$0.3947 • ≈ value of: 0.0018233 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
21:07:54 <strike> :I
21:08:06 <jsun[m]> .bal
21:08:06 <Wallet> jsun[m]: Access denied for bal. Are you logged in?
21:49:31 <Bill48105> i forgot i enabled faucet for monero. guess the pot got enough funding
21:52:30 <SomeHacker> .faucet
21:52:30 <Wallet> SomeHacker: Sum of 1st million digits o​f pi, times zero
21:52:34 <SomeHacker> 0
21:52:34 <Wallet> SomeHacker: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000001 XMR to SomeHacker [834340b9] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.0119055
21:53:15 <SomeHacker> is its cooldown linked with other coins?
21:55:37 <Bill48105> right otherwise people just faucet every coin
21:56:24 <SomeHacker> are there any "better" or "worse" coins?
21:57:00 <Bill48105> figure that's a personal preference
21:57:17 <Bill48105> you're sittin in a monero channel figure the correct answer here is monero
22:03:14 <Elementoshi[m]> why do fiat accounts get frozen? because there's no fiat faucets to trickle in the winter
22:11:17 <Bill48105> kek