00:18:52 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> I’m sad I tried buying btc on Coinbase so I could convert to Monero and buy at 190, but Coinbase says it takes 7 days to clear so now I’m stuck with it
00:19:14 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> And there’s a 7 layer dip happening with BTC
00:22:28 <Beags[m]> > <TheLizardWizard4013> I’m sad I tried buying btc on Coinbase so I could convert to Monero and buy at 190, but Coinbase says it takes 7 days to clear so now I’m stuck with it
00:22:28 <Beags[m]> imagine buying on a centralized KYC exchange
00:22:32 <gingeropolous> what, the fiat to coinbase?
00:22:43 <gingeropolous> yeah trad banking is slow as hell compared to crypto
00:23:44 <Beags[m]> what 7 days? it takes max 1-2 days for transfers to clear here in aus. is that an american banking thing?
00:24:07 <CHagbard[m]> Got up early to create my kraken account but by the time my verification cleared to get funds, xmr had gone up by 20
00:28:31 <Beags[m]> I'm sure it'll come back down. This is Monero we're talking about after all
00:30:23 <TenFootAlice> 7 days wire, ach or CC?
00:30:59 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> ACH
00:31:24 <TenFootAlice> that should be 3 days max
00:31:40 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> I usually use Localmonero, but the guy only wanted to sell it to me when it was at 280
00:31:50 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> when it went to 200 he cancelled the meeting lol
00:32:03 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> trust id love to use local, but nobody here does it but that 1 guy
00:32:22 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> well lets hope!
00:41:35 <Infinity8> DisBotXMR: nothing wrong with that
00:42:01 <Infinity8> it's like those people on Craigslist who sell there car for a ridiculous price and are like "no rush to sell"
00:42:05 <Infinity8> their*
00:50:08 <AudreyP[m]> buy the dip ?
00:52:35 <charolastra> sure, why not
01:02:27 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> yeah
01:02:29 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> buy the dip
01:02:38 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> would if i could
01:05:01 <AudreyP[m]> ya I am about to buy the dip, dollar cost averaging, I am trying to get rid of the fiat and geting real money
01:34:20 <moneromoon[m]> Monero means Money <3
01:44:44 <finely[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/75
02:05:26 <fibonacci> .bal
02:05:26 <Wallet> fibonacci: 0 XMR
03:46:43 <poverGq> Question. New monero user. Is there a good way for me, other than buying locally, where I could purchase a prepaid debit card for cash and then buy monero?
03:47:11 <poverGq> I don't feel comfortable sending out money in the mail
04:03:03 <DisBotXMR> <TheLizardWizard4013> I mean I think they have that option on LocalMonero
05:20:16 <kiwi_91> sup guys
05:43:11 <Beags[m]> if youve got an anonymous prepaid debit card, might aswell buy off kraken as long as youre under the kyc requirement
05:43:56 <Beags[m]> speaking of, what is the nokyc limit for kraken?
05:49:00 <Beags[m]> * nvm nokyc only lets you move crypto, no fiat
05:58:18 <Bill48105> btw swap command is almost done on Wallet bot. it will let 2 users cross tip bot-supported coins such as monero with another coin of equal value in a single easy controlled process
06:05:30 <Bill48105> it's 99% done to point i can demonstrate the process but no coins are actually moved which is the last part to finish. one been demonstrating it in channels and so far a lot of positive feedback
06:05:50 <TenFootAlice> 0_o
06:17:36 <Bill48105> I'll bet you're actually only 9 foot 11 1/2 alice
06:29:16 <TenFootAlice> from song lyrics
06:39:06 <Bill48105> nice yeah was yankin yer chain
08:34:22 <wolfkeeper[m]> Hi, I'm interested in becoming a miner. How would I be able to join? Please can anyone also advise what PC hardware is required to do this? Thanks.
08:38:55 <sech1> Read https://monerostuff.blogspot.com/2021/01/how-to-mine-monero.html and other posts there
08:42:20 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "Read https://monerostuff.blogspo"> Thanks so much. Will do.
09:14:51 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "Read https://monerostuff.blogspo"> Ok, I read the info, very helpful thanks. Would definately need to get a MUCH BIGGER CPU! are there any other hardware components one needs to have/ upgrade that an average PC would not? Graphics, etc?
09:15:49 <sech1> Just a CPU, RAM speed is also important, but 2x4 GB is enough
09:24:08 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "Just a CPU, RAM speed is also im"> Thanks!
09:25:17 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "Just a CPU, RAM speed is also im"> Do I need to be a super BOFF to understand the mining?
09:30:56 <wolfkeeper[m]> <wolfkeeper[m] "Thanks!"> LAst question, what motherboard should I look at, just standard, or gaming spec?
09:36:40 <sech1> Ryzen 3600/3900X + B550 motherboard will be fine, it doesn't have to be expensive
09:37:54 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "Ryzen 3600/3900X + B550 motherbo"> Graphics cards?....last question really!
09:40:18 <sech1> GPU is not needed to mine Monero, but you'll probably need it to set up the system, right?
09:40:33 <sech1> Any GPU that you'd buy for other purposes
09:40:57 <sech1> I think most Ryzen boards can boot without a GPU if you disable stopping on errors in BIOS
09:41:37 <sech1> I'm not sure about Windows though, but Linux can also boot without a GPU
09:41:43 <sech1> But it's an advanced stuff already
09:46:04 <wolfkeeper[m]> <sech1 "GPU is not needed to mine Monero"> What size hard drive and in your opinion which would be better as OS - Linux or Mac (not fan of windows).
09:47:04 <sech1> any size, if you're just mining. Linux is better
09:47:10 <wolfkeeper[m]> Could you perhaps advise a VPN, firewall and security?? What is government proof .....🤨
09:54:20 <endor00[m]> Running your own
10:02:54 <wolfkeeper[m]> <endor00[m] "Running your own "> Got that....
10:06:30 <kayront> am i going blind, or does monerujo not have address book functionality?
10:31:35 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Should I buy a second ledger nano s as a backup device?
10:36:46 <xrv0[m]> <dxrwzy9y[m] "Should I buy a second ledger nan"> Writing down your seed is sufficient
11:27:00 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Can you create a second seed in case you lose your first one?
11:30:37 <moneromooo> Uou can use "encrypted_seed". It'll ask you for an offset, put any passphrase in there.
11:31:10 <moneromooo> The seed will be different (since it gets used with that passphrase) but yield the original keys/address.
11:34:25 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Okay so that one can replace the original handwritten card in case I lose it?
11:35:01 <moneromooo> Yes. Just write down the passphrase too.
11:37:17 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Do you think it's a good idea to somehow mark your hardware wallet in case someone replaces it with a compromised dummy unit?
11:40:38 <charolastra> that dummy won't have your keys on it so nothing should happen
11:41:53 <charolastra> a tamper proof way of marking: use glitter nail polish, put it over screws and stuff and make photos of it. noone will be able to replicate the position of the glitter particles
11:45:45 <dxrwzy9y[m]> <charolastra "that dummy won't have your keys "> They could be trying to get your pin after they stole the real device.
11:46:05 <charolastra> hmm, true!
11:46:52 <dxrwzy9y[m]> I wonder whether I should use glitter nail polish on all my electronic devices now haha
11:47:51 <charolastra> i'll certainly do if i ever go through US customs. and somehow block all USB ports
11:48:18 <dxrwzy9y[m]> How do you block a USB port?
11:49:23 <charolastra> just searched for "usb port lock" and there are actually locks and keys for that, lol
11:49:48 <moneromooo> Place a sticker saying "By using this USB port, you agree to [insert 40 pages of legalese]".
11:50:34 <charolastra> ^^
11:54:20 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Does this also work with your USB-C phone or iPhone lightning port?
11:56:08 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Hmm apparently it can be bypassed by a paperclip?!?
12:01:36 <charolastra> maby. doesn't look that secure. i'd just insert some 3d printed thing and do the glitter stuff on that, too
12:04:05 <dxrwzy9y[m]> I don't have a 3D printer...
12:04:23 <charolastra> it's 2021. why not?
12:08:14 <dxrwzy9y[m]> I never needed one lol
12:21:17 <DisBotXMR> <Fyse> is it common to have a 3D printer lol
12:23:09 <charolastra> you'd be surprised what you can print nowerdays
12:23:38 <moneromooo> The fourth amendment, for example. In toiler paper.
12:23:41 <moneromooo> On*
12:24:36 <charolastra> more like 2nd amendment stuff to protect the rest ;)
12:26:19 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Can you print Monero on it? ;p
13:41:00 * AudreyP[m] uploaded an image: 3dprint.jpg (43KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fjbhiijMZEMAtKkmpSwIJBkj/3dprint.jpg >
13:41:01 <AudreyP[m]> You can print this
13:49:00 <Psynthax> I have evidence that Croatia or Serbian or UK government is stealing and destroying cryptocurrencies because they have interest in digital money from the late 80s. My father developed it on ZX spectrum while they listened and were looking into his brain with EMP technology
13:49:00 <Psynthax> and stole the information (source code) and developed it further while he was not allowed to continue. I lost 4 bitcoins due to their theft (3 here TXID:7e4153c47587a1782897d3726414b4d8165498bca684a5155f01e33140934add) and the rest was stolen
13:49:00 <Psynthax> in smaller transactions while they cooked books on my wallet. They also cooked books on my exchanges. UK stole BSV from while I was at the airport there and exchanged it using my exchange to stellar with login data they took from me with EMP. They present themselves as crypto friendly and they are attacking crypto projects.
13:49:00 <Psynthax> They use EMP to take a memory dump using magnetism and then inject trojans with electormagnetism back into the memory and execute the code to enter into our computers and mess them up. I am Miroslav Lakić from Osijek,Croatia.
13:50:31 <ry`an> Psynthax: have you tried talking to a mental health professional about this?
13:50:59 <ry`an> your mention of BSV suggests that you probably suffer from severe delusions
13:51:14 <Psynthax> about what?
13:52:33 <blaeks[m]> okej onda pricas i srpski, jel da?
13:52:43 <Psynthax> da
13:52:46 <Psynthax> i bosanski
13:52:51 <blaeks[m]> shit:)
13:54:22 <binaryFate> .
13:57:22 <Fuzzerman> I need a monerujo command line client. Does such a thing exist?
13:59:09 <angrymonkeyboi[m> us the commandine client
13:59:22 <angrymonkeyboi[m> the official one
14:02:13 <Fuzzerman> Ok. Thank you.
14:06:46 <ry`an> looks like the Croatian or Serbian government got to him
14:07:37 <moneromooo> Doubt the UK govt is destroying cryptocurrencies, too busy destroying the UK alreayd.
14:08:25 <ry`an> perhaps they needed to steal his $3000 worth of bitcoins to fund their secret wars
14:14:19 <blaeks[m]> it's all good folks until someone mentions the "Vlashka magija" it unveils the darkest disturbances in the force but it's survivable (with permanent scars)
14:14:25 <blaeks[m]> ups
14:58:20 <pyu> l
15:31:42 <hv-bridge> <musmo> here's a dumb question...
15:32:17 <hv-bridge> <musmo> is there a website where it indicates all pools' statistics, e.g. last block found, # of miners, hash rates, # of shares per block, etc.
15:32:50 <sech1> https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
15:33:43 <hv-bridge> <musmo> awesome, thanks.
15:35:41 <apotheon> "Is there a . . . ?"
15:35:42 <apotheon> "Yes."
15:35:44 <apotheon> nice
15:36:10 <charolastra> rule 34!
15:36:18 <apotheon> um
15:36:28 <apotheon> not *exactly* the same, but sure
15:36:42 <apotheon> "Is there a Monero-themed porn site?"
15:37:02 <charolastra> for sure. never visit 4chan?
15:37:33 <apotheon> No, I avoid it.
15:37:54 <hv-bridge> <musmo> blocks are assigned, and there can't be duplicates, right?
15:38:50 <hv-bridge> <musmo> hmm, that's a stupid question.
15:40:18 <hv-bridge> <musmo> here's a less stupid question...  hashes are given to be validated and to eventually find a block that it belongs to. so hashes are unique...? and if i have validated that last hash that makes a block, i get a coin?
15:40:25 <hv-bridge> <musmo> minted gold coin........
15:43:48 <charolastra> apotheon: there you go https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1613527866639.jpg
15:44:50 <apotheon> egad
15:46:16 <charolastra> best one so far i've seen but can't find now: a monero girl showing how exposed the bitcoin girl is :D
15:48:22 <apotheon> yikes
16:01:20 <SerHack> is there any risk to leave ZMQ port of a monero daemon opened? I think no, but I'd like a confirm :D
16:05:51 <ndorf> SerHack: it's unencrypted, if that's a concern
16:15:06 <ndorf> SerHack: also stuff like https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/issues/3351
16:15:20 <ndorf> personally... i would use an ssh tunnel. hehe
16:17:23 <SerHack> @ndorf: thanks! haha
17:30:47 <x3nu[m]> hello
18:44:05 <jonathancross> Does anyone here know who is in control of https://github.com/monero ?
18:44:05 <jonathancross> Would be nice to use it in instead of `monero-project` - no?
18:44:05 <jonathancross> I believe we could make an argument that it is "impersonation" if needed to GitHub support.
19:27:35 <agentpatience007> SamsungGalaxyPlayer
19:27:58 <agentpatience007> hes prolly just trying to sell that book on that page
19:31:55 <selsta> mastering monero is free :D
19:33:31 <apotheon> Is that an ebook?
19:33:39 <apotheon> "in 24 Hours"
19:34:02 <apotheon> (re: Mastering Monero)
19:39:33 <jonathancross> It is just a fork of the Monero book repo with no changes.
19:40:38 * moneromooo waits till someone forks the book and changes just the name and pow algorithm...
19:41:16 <jonathancross> I actually already got that name freed from a squatter by Github support, but it was re-squatted before I could get to it. 🙁
19:58:06 <apotheon> jonathancross: That sucks.
20:00:33 <jonah_xd[m]> Hot News, All crypto accept old ones have banned from new york USA
20:00:33 <jonah_xd[m]> https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/new-york-cryptocurrency-regulations
20:00:38 <jonah_xd[m]>  * Hot News, All crypto except old ones have banned from new york USA
20:00:38 <jonah_xd[m]> https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/new-york-cryptocurrency-regulations
20:01:26 <jonah_xd[m]> or more accurately regulated
20:02:39 * blaeks[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zKeFxHaZSEGHuXMaxWMiXtdE/message.txt >
20:03:39 <jonah_xd[m]> which means ?
20:04:12 <jonah_xd[m]> oh its 1 month old
20:08:56 <ndorf> the post may be 1 month old, but the information in it is about 6 years old.
20:09:00 <ndorf> "hot news" it ain't.
20:11:15 <jonah_xd[m]> aight
20:20:12 <ttaynsgurpp> Remember kids. If you call project coral reef for what it is - fluffypony embezzling half a mil usd from the monero fund for a website with smaller adoption than monero woo plugin, you will get excommunicated. Why do you think charities need Teslas? They don't and Elon won't support Monero 150k will sure buy a lot of party time for those that actually do get it.
20:31:33 <angrymonkeyboi[m> ttaynsgurpp: Get a life