00:27:57 i miss xmr.to 00:28:02 is there anything similar? 01:13:10 I like fixedfloat.com myself, though it isn't integrated in wallets or anything like xmr.to was. 01:16:39 Actually that's not quite 100% true, it is available in Blue Wallet's marketplace section (bitcoin/Lightning wallet) 02:28:41 thanks diverter[m] 02:28:55 i completed a few xmr -> btc + eth payments 03:46:58 I found some a small amount of BTC, but I'm unsure of it's past and I'd like to disconnect myself from where ever it came from. I'm thinking of sending the BTC to localmonero, converting to XMR and then sending it on to Kraken to purchase more BTC. Does anyone have feedback or advice? 03:51:30 there's gotta be an existing guide on how to use monero to make your bitcoin fungible 04:48:41 this 04:48:44 matrix is shit 06:27:41 I need help setting up a miner lol pleaseeeeee 06:32:59 So is it okay if I send BTC security deposit to Bisq with low transaction fee? 06:33:08 in Bisq* 08:01:22 It'll get there slower. 08:34:33 Kraken won't let me withdraw more than 0.001 monero.... Has anyone else seen this? 08:34:48 I'm fully verified with them 08:35:16 I've never had that issue. 08:35:23 It just says invalid amount when I enter a higher value 08:35:26 Contact customer support. 08:35:37 They're offline ;( 08:35:46 How much xmr do you have on there? 08:37:16 $???? worth 08:37:25 ;_ 08:37:31 * ;) 08:40:08 Is there a deposit hold time? Like you can't transfer out within some hours? 08:40:11 Kek 08:40:20 Do you have more than 0.001 XMR there? 08:40:41 Never heard of such on kraken. 08:40:58 According to the FAQ "All first-time fiat deposits will result in a temporary 72 hour withdrawal hold on the account." 08:41:11 Ah. 08:41:26 Strange that it let me withdraw $2 worth of XMR. I was using that as a test 08:52:35 Hey guys where can I find a guide on how to run a full XMR node on a raspbpi4? 08:53:06 justverify[m]: instlal raspbian, download wownerod, copy over the unit file, alter it -> have fun :P 08:54:41 What does “alter it” mean? 08:58:14 as far as I know a wownero release does come with a systemd unit file. you will need to alter pathes inside it, to match where you put the stuff on your machine 08:59:58 Ew, systemd 09:01:56 Thanks for answering ksk I’ve recently discovered also pinodexmr. Someone is using it? 09:02:37 it might work, but this way you will add like 31337 Lines of Code on top of wownero.. 09:03:24 oh, this is #monero :) 09:03:37 the same applies. 09:04:56 ksk what is wownero? Never heard of it... 09:07:37 * ksk what is wownero? 09:11:19 Kind of a meme coin of monero. New features sometimes get "tested" there first 09:19:17 wownero masterrace. 09:22:13 Wait, but I’d like to run a monero node not a wownero one... this wownero thing confused me a bit 😅 09:27:54 justverify[m]: the procedure stays the same though. 09:44:59 Ok thanks ksk 12:07:17 first time using the wallet-cli, is it normal not to have acces to console while syncing ? 12:07:52 height N/T keep going without my inputs listened 12:08:30 If syncing in the foreground, of course. ^C in that case. 12:11:20 oh ok indeed ! thx moneromoo . I was fearing that would leave the wallet 12:11:35 well it will close the wallet yes 12:11:39 I guess 12:11:44 open a new terminal tab 12:13:42 ^C exits the wallet except when it's in foreground sync mode, in which case it stops the sync. 12:14:24 There's usually a bit of a delay, it has to finish scanning its current batch or 1k blocks or so. 12:22:26 dont know if it is known / normal expected behaviour (could easily find searching for the issue) : 1 new wallet from ledger, 2 disconnect ledger,3 wallet lock after timeout, 4 stucked in password loop when trying to unlock (even if reconnect ledger meanwhile) 12:24:04 sorry read could*n't* 12:38:02 no one talks. lol 12:39:13 < angrymonkeyboi[m> Kraken won't let me withdraw more than 0.001 monero.... <-- is your monero locked up in an order that has not been filled or cancelled yet? 12:40:13 Nah, it's the 72 hour hold after first fiat deposit 12:41:39 it's been so long since my first transaction on kraken 12:41:48 but i don't even recall such a hold 12:44:39 good to have found out then 12:46:24 This is relevant criticism of Monero UX: https://twitter.com/nqtronix/status/1362364042791313411 12:56:02 monero gui wallet wasn't great last time I tried it 12:56:15 feather wallet is a better option 12:56:23 especially for those used to electrum for btc 12:56:48 does feather wallet have HW wallet support? 12:58:51 not currently 12:59:14 Does Feather support Ledger/Trezor? 12:59:14 No, but we may add support in the future. 12:59:29 https://featherwallet.org/faq/ 13:01:58 so pretty much only Monerujo supports that for now 13:03:39 About that one, I read monerujo recently started supporting dash, a known scam. I'd be careful with it now. 13:04:15 (hearsay, I did not get the source to check) 13:05:23 (I did see the release notes admitting it though) 13:05:30 i have monerujo installed but I've never had a use for it 13:05:53 never have i needed to conduct an xmr transaction and not had access to a computer 13:05:57 AFAIK it was trustworthy so as long as it doesn't auto update it's probably fine. 13:09:23 I remember seeing a guy edit his wallet so that change would unlock after 1 confirmation, and subsequent transactions weren't rejected, would this be viable for everyday use? 13:09:49 No. This was dumb, and consensus got updated to reject it now. 13:12:02 ah I see 13:12:03 sad 13:24:20 To be fair, they don't directly "support" Dash. Monerujo simply uses a 3rd party swap service (sideshift.ai) which allows converting to Dash among other things 13:25:00 Ah, so it's whatever list that exchange happens to have ? 13:25:50 Yep 13:26:17 Odd they'd add that in the release notes if it's just that. 13:26:38 As scummy as Dash may be, I think the knee-jerk reaction by whoever made that post on reddit was a bit overblown 13:29:01 https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/releases 13:29:01 "This is minor release v1.17.6 "Druk" adding more payment options" 13:29:01 and then below they simply state "Add LTC, ETH, DASH & DOGE" 13:29:22 sideshift.ai lists a few dozen currencies. The release notes list 4. I looked into the code, it seems not to be whatever sideshift.ai supports, dash is explicitetly whitelisted. 13:29:45 Because they need to add address verification on their side as far as I can see 13:29:50 So no, it seems to be dash, not just whatever sideshify suppotst. 13:29:52 For the integrated exchange 13:31:18 Seems like a dumb way to waste goodwill. 13:33:30 I wonder if it's because two of the makers of it are in south america (IIRC) and Dash is pretty widely accepted there. 13:33:34 er... is monerujo the same as xmrwallet ? 13:34:14 m2049r.xmrwallet yeah 14:02:43 I don't think monerujo has anything to do with xmrwallet 14:03:35 Maybe just a name collision then ? 14:03:44 yea 14:04:30 just name collision from repo https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet 14:04:49 the xmrwallet app is fishy or plain scammy afair 14:06:34 .balance 14:06:46 o_0 14:07:09 You are 2.536 monero in debt. Please pay 4sndsfsf now. 14:07:20 kek 14:13:07 wah 14:20:52 moneromooo: Did you figure out your IPv6 situation? 14:21:58 No, and I did not try. 14:23:38 Hahaha 14:23:49 Story of every budding network engineer's life 14:25:36 IPv6 is just beyond comprehension 14:26:04 It's really not, it's simple, even simpler than v4 — the complexity comes from people trying to use v4 and v6 together 14:26:25 when I was a teen I used to think IPv6 just meant that every device would get a WAN address, but it seems like that didn't happen? 14:26:31 And not understanding that they *really, truly, indeniably* are different protocols 14:27:28 marmulak: That *is* the case. If you've ever been on a proper IPv6 network where silly people don't insist on continuing to use NAT (because IPv6 makes it completely unnecessary), then that is what you get: every device has a global unicast address for each of its interface 14:27:31 *interfaces 14:28:11 see that's what I want 14:28:13 NAT is bullshit 14:28:52 Indeed it is 14:30:10 You can confirm that no NAT is indeed what IPv6 was designed for by looking at the way ULAs are designed 14:30:19 It's basically v6's version of the 10.0.0.0/8 range 14:31:06 The idea is that organisations can pick a /64 within the fc00::/8 range, akin to how orgs currently pick a /24 within the 10.0.0.0/8 range 14:31:21 And then if two orgs ever merge, there is no conflict in addresses 14:31:41 Because their 64-bit prefixes ought to be different 14:32:03 Hi everyone, I have an issue with monero wallet on linux and Ledger. Can't check my seed 14:32:20 anybody can help with that please? 14:32:53 Where can't you see the seed? Ledger or Linux? 14:33:15 Also, are you trying to use the same seed on both Ledger and Linux? Because if so, *don't* do that. 14:33:24 well , in the desktop wallet on Linux it says the seed is protected by device 14:33:41 so it doesn't show up 14:33:41 Which wallet are you using? 14:34:19 The seed for the Monero wallet is not exposed to the GUI 14:34:24 When using a hw device like Ledger 14:34:27 0.17.1.9-3ca5f10 14:34:47 The only seed you need to worry about is the Ledger seed itself, that will restore the Monero wallet on the Ledger itself if the Ledger device is broken or lost. 14:34:49 Oh, are you trying to use Monero GUI Wallet to interact with the Ledger? 14:35:06 If you need to pull the seed out of the Ledger to use as a Monero seed you can use this tool: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11979/how-to-convert-ledger-seed-to-monero-compatible-seed-on-windows 14:35:17 Oh I see. I was just trying to access the seed to backup 14:35:31 Folder: To backup the Ledger? 14:35:34 and yes I'm using the wallet interacting with Ledger 14:35:49 Right, now that that's clear — I thought you had a separate wallet on the Linux device 14:36:11 Since you're just using it to interact with the Ledger, there is *no seed* on the Linux device 14:36:17 no in fact i can connect to Monero wallet only pluggin in the ledger nano 14:36:30 Ok, I got it. 14:36:44 You are simply using the Ledger to create and sign a transaction, and then passing the signed transaction to the GUI Wallet so that it can broadcast it over the internet 14:37:34 Ok, but the monero App on Ledger is neither showing the 25 words 14:38:20 it says ELECTRUM SEED : NOTSET 14:38:54 The Ledger uses a BIP-39 seed, which is 12 or 24 words long 14:38:56 and the second options shows: CLEAR WORDS {do not wipe the wallet} 14:39:13 If you want a 25-word Monero seed, see the link posted above by sethsimmons 14:39:34 no, no the only thing I'm worried is that I don't see the seed anywhere 14:39:53 However, as a matter of security, you should only do this if you want to move the funds away from the Ledger or any other form of cold storage 14:40:01 probably I have the 24 word seed and I'm fine with that 14:40:10 You shouldn't see a 25-word Monero seed anywhere, you don't need it 14:40:16 The Ledger's 24-word seed suffices 14:40:25 From that, you can derive the 25-word Monero seed if you ever need it 14:40:50 Why you ping me bro? 14:40:59 Folder "0.17.1.9-3ca5f10" Did you compile it yourself? What branch is it? 14:41:05 But let me stress that you should never need to use it unless your Ledger device stops working and you decide not to use another Ledger device 14:41:15 If you were to get another Ledger device, you could just use the 24-word Ledger seed 14:41:35 Ok Ivan got it, and where is located the 24 word seed on Ledger? 14:41:38 Is not visible? 14:41:58 It never show up correct? 14:42:04 If you chose a different hardware wallet or decided to use a standard Monero wallet, then you would need to derive the 25-word Monero seed and provide that to a Monero wallet to retrieve your funds 14:42:05 there's no such commit in Monero github repository, you might be running tainted code 14:42:25 @sech1 that is the gui version 14:42:55 To verify the Ledger seed, you will need to use the Ledger Live software 14:42:55 the embedded version is the 0.17.1.9 14:43:09 When you first used the Ledger, it would have displayed the seed, and you should have written it down 14:43:12 ah right, then it's ok 14:43:16 After that, you can only verify the seed via Ledger Live 14:43:37 In Ledger Live, you go to [Manager] > [Recovery check] 14:43:41 I see Ivan, let me try 14:44:44 Instructions are available here: https://cryptosec.info/verify-ledger-recovery-seed/ 14:45:18 ti shows database error the link 14:45:42 Hm, here is a cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fcryptosec.info%2Fverify-ledger-recovery-seed%2F&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fcryptosec.info%2Fverify-ledger-recovery-seed%2F&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.862j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 14:56:07 ok the solution in the link says to install Recovery Check 14:56:21 Yup 14:56:23 but recovery check asks to input the 24 words seed so.. 14:56:42 You do that via Ledger Live, and then you can do Recovery Check on the Ledger device itself 14:56:54 You input the seed that you think it' using, and it tells you if you're right 14:57:38 If you don't already know the seed, you're screwed, and you should transfer your funds to an address derived from a seed you *do* know 14:57:53 The Ledger only tells you the seed on first run 14:57:59 but recovery check is asking the Ledger Live seed right? 14:58:07 There is no Ledger Live seed 14:58:15 There is only the seed which the Ledger device knows 14:58:40 ok will try again 14:58:42 i have a list 14:59:55 i think recovery check is asking for the Passphrase of the nano x, is it? 15:01:51 i have my seed for Ledger Nano, but what I was looking for is to discover my seed for Monero Ledger Wallet 15:02:09 because I noticed I don't have anywhere my Monero seed 15:03:01 Folder: I have already tried to explain the situation with the Monero seed — you don't need one 15:03:24 ok ok, so I don't worry anymore about that seed 15:03:56 in case I need to recover my Monero wallet in the future with Ledger, how is the procedure, only to plug in the Ledger key? 15:03:58 Exactly — the only situation in which you would need the Monero seed is if your current Ledger device stops working or is lost, and you don't want to get a new Ledger device. 15:04:21 In that case, you can use the instructions the sethsimmons linked to in order to derive a 25-word Monero seed from your 24-word Ledger seed 15:04:37 And then provide those 25 words to any Monero wallet software 15:05:33 Ok I understood now guys, thank you very much 15:05:42 tnx for the help 15:05:46 No worries, do feel free to ask any other questions you have 15:05:54 tnx! :) 16:25:52 am i the only one having a helluva time with incoming transactions on my daemon? 16:26:06 What exactly is the issue? 16:26:27 correction:zero incoming connections not transactions 16:27:15 i cant get it to say 64out/64in --status reports 16:27:32 32(out)+0(in) connections 16:27:38 wtf 16:27:43 ah 16:27:44 Have you forwarded the appropriate port through your firewall/router? 16:27:44 Normally is 18080/tcp 16:27:58 Yes, must have the port blocked by a firewall or router 16:28:15 If the port is available you will have incoming connections. 16:29:21 p2p-bind-port=80 16:29:28 i dont have access to router.. 16:29:59 my previous setup didnt appear to have any issues with connecting. and it was the same router 16:30:12 If you can't port forward you'll never have incoming connections 16:30:22 Unless your router for some reason forwards 80 by chance to your host 16:30:45 Thats not a problem for you using the node, just means it doesn't contribute much of anything to the network itself. 16:30:57 You don't need incoming connections to use the node. 16:32:01 right. the node seems to sync no problem. but my last setup showed incoming connections and it was the same router. 16:32:23 Have you tried not binding to a weird port? 16:32:24 welp. yeah/ i really should have access to router :/ 16:32:50 Could just be that monerod can't bind to 80 since thats a permissioned port. 16:32:55 Unless you run as sudo it won't be able to bind that low. 16:33:05 ok. i try 16:33:21 Just don't set the bind port at all to leave it at the default (18080/tcp) 16:33:42 ok. 16:41:45 i'm still not getting any in connections with sudo. I was running the daemon straight from root but then i followed a guide that had me create a 'monero' user. could it be some user issue? 16:43:10 check to see if your port is in fact open: https://canyouseeme.org/ 16:46:13 Error: I could not see your service on 68.71.79.139 on port (80) 16:46:35 hmm 16:46:42 woops 16:46:52 i should not have provided my ip 16:46:56 lol 16:47:12 16:47:17 omg 16:48:11 these new world order types may have shut my port down? 16:48:24 or am i just paranoid? 16:50:25 * moneromooo looks up the worldwide NWO database... Nope, you're not in it. 16:50:41 oh thank goodness 16:51:22 it's the same IP you're IRCing from, so i wouldn't worry about that. 16:52:06 right. i have nothing to hide. if running a server is illegal... 16:52:39 What's your name and address btw ? 16:52:44 lol 16:55:16 actually. i have a great many things i want to hide. u know. i take back what i said 16:55:28 ^_^ 16:57:24 you _were_ not in it 17:06:49 .usd 17:06:56 testicle 17:09:36 .usd 17:09:47 !quote 17:09:47 Random quote (#1274): asymptotically> damn M5M400 why did you fix it? you could have helped me start Monero ClassicerV2 Original Electric Boogaloo 17:10:08 central bank digital currency is corporate garbage. have a great day 17:10:27 oh jeese... wrong channel 17:10:38 I thought I was totally lagged 17:11:26 monerobux doesn't discriminate between test and testical... whomever wrote the regex for that... 17:11:40 (just thought I'd give that explanation) 17:12:18 or the correct way to spell it... 19:30:12 * elon_musk[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/GFPXngPlSghiNCiLpUlvKyaA/message.txt > 19:31:51 elon_musk[m] when Tesla 4 XMR? 19:42:54 why is mining through the GUI only possible on local daemons? 19:43:32 Maybe it assumes non local isn't yours ? 19:43:35 because it's the daemon doing the mining. If you were to mine with a remote node, it would use the remote node's computer to do the mining 19:44:01 [i'm guessing] 19:45:25 oh, so for a farm you'd need every node to hold the whole chain? 19:45:55 You would never mine using `monerod` in a mining farm 19:46:20 You would just use XMRig and use the pools block templates, or (hopefully) use one node for self-select that you run on the local network. 19:46:45 Yes, this is true. GUI mining works like monero-wallet-cli mining. It just instructs the daemon to mine to a given address. 19:47:33 ah right, that's how it used to behave when i played with a testnet ... 21:29:08 hi 21:29:34 I have found a strange error, I created a wallet with monero cli but now it says the wallet can't be opened 21:29:36 I'm on windows 21:30:30 When reporting something like this, always be precise. Give the exact error message. 21:31:29 Failed to open wallet 21:31:39 is there a way to get more info on the error? 21:31:42 What is your command line ? 21:32:54 ./monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address stagenet.community.xmr.to:38081 --stagenet --rpc-bind-port 28083 --wallet-dir wallets 21:33:32 Hmm. I did not realize --wallet-dir was a cli option. It's meant to be used for the RPC wallet. 21:33:47 ok wait I have found an error in log 21:33:49 That might be the reason, it might look in the wrong directory. 21:36:34 E boost::filesystem::exists(m_wallet_file, ignored_ec). THROW EXCEPTION: error::file_exists 21:36:35 2021-02-18 15:52:48.478 E Failed to open C:\Users\Luke\wallets\my_wallet.keys: system:32 21:36:35 2021-02-18 15:52:48.478 E !is_keys_file_locked(). THROW EXCEPTION: error::wallet_internal_error 21:40:42 what do you think could be the reason for the error? 21:44:20 Does the user you're running as have permissions for C:\Users\Luke\wallets\my_wallet.keys ? 21:44:28 ie, did you create that file as another user ? 21:44:53 no I have created it with the same user 21:45:01 You have permissions to it ? 21:45:06 yes 21:45:18 the wallet is in the directory I can see the 3 files 21:45:31 Is another process (wallet program) currently using it ? 21:45:57 no 21:46:15 Are you really sure ? is_keys_file_locked checks for this. 21:47:11 last time I shutdown the system without stopping the wallet GUI, could it be that? 21:47:51 Doubt it, filesystem locks should not survive process end. 21:48:11 You're triyng to load the file now, right ? Not create it again ? 21:48:34 I tried to create it again but it failed 21:48:51 That one's expected. 21:48:55 exactly 21:49:09 Then... I don't know. Hmm. 21:49:51 how can I release the lock? 21:50:00 without shutting down the OS 21:50:01 By exiting the process that holds it. 21:50:15 ie, monero-wallet-{cli,rpc,gui} 21:50:20 do I need to close monero cli every time I need to switch to a different wallet? 21:50:26 Yes. 21:50:33 no "close wallet"? 21:50:38 Correct. 21:50:40 or refresh 21:54:16 hey look mooo is about 21:57:33 i finally got monero withdraw tested and working on Wallet bot today. it worked on the old irc only Wallet bot but had never ported over the code to the new one 21:58:56 i rewrote the withdraw process from on demand talk to daemon while user waits and hope for the best to an actual queued system including better error handling and retries 22:00:27 i need to look into more details on monero fees though especially on if they fluctuate much or accurate estimation 22:00:29 Sounds good :) 22:01:03 They fluctuate based on recent block sizes, but the wallet will do the right thing. 22:01:23 thanks the new bot took over 2 years but part time and maintaining the old bots. new one was rewritten to be modular and multi platform 22:02:14 cool thanks for the info. I'm looking more at how to know what to charge the user to be fair to them but bot not lose money either 22:02:34 Check typical tx fees on xmrchain.net 22:03:09 cool thanks i will 22:03:14 You *might* get screwed if some joker sends you lots of tiny outputs, but you can always say "anything below X is deemed a donation". 22:03:14 Glad u guys got that worked out 22:03:33 lol fibonacci what up 22:03:47 Sup bill 22:03:54 What ? 22:03:57 😊 22:04:06 but yeah here's list of all the platforms it's on now: Status: • discord: On • freenode: On • twitch: On • rizon: On • reddit: On • matrix: On • slack: On • keybase: On • telegram: On 22:04:39 Nice. Mine only did freenode/twatter/reddit IIRC. 22:04:47 Been pulling for Monero donations on Dogecoin for a long time. Bill gets it done ✔👏👍 22:04:52 Much buck for not much bang. 22:04:57 hey fibonacci you've used my bots for years how do they work :) 22:05:01 Now all kinds of places 22:05:17 I've trusted some sick money 💰on them 22:05:24 right it's a sheet ton of work with little reward 22:05:27 Never had a stolen doge 22:05:43 Never had a failed transaction 22:06:20 the new bot supports cross platform tipping. can also merge accounts between platforms 22:08:23 thanks for the info moo I'll look into it. i normally just set a reasonable fixed fee and hope it averages out 22:09:41 if you want to test out the bot it's in many channels or could even bring it here if you wanted and set default coin to xmr 22:10:15 I'm sure some people will be down. It does games too IIRC ? 22:10:57 right there's a few games and they can be limited to plays per day or disabled per channel or user 22:11:40 bj slots roulette poker (7 card stud) drawpoker holdem 22:12:32 poker vs ai ? 22:12:32 all games are played against community pot. if users lose bot nor i benefit 22:12:49 nah i did them single player video poker style 22:13:04 poker ai too much work LoL 22:13:32 Yeah, even blackjack was a pita :D 22:14:00 if users Omar and lose the coins go to community pot for others to play. and that pot funds faucet duck rewards etc 22:14:23 * moneromooo feels too much auto correct there 22:14:39 duck rewards sound wicked though. 22:14:46 Got to be in ducknotes. 22:14:48 yeah bj you do play dealer but at least the rules are easier for bj 22:15:03 lol ooos yeah i hate typing on phone 22:15:20 it inserts and replaces words 22:15:43 ducks can tip users coins if they get them 22:15:59 and if enabled they can explode into a channel soak etc 22:16:14 very popular especially on discord 22:16:25 Oh, that wasn't an automangle ? :D 22:16:34 they are like pavlov's dogs when those ducks appear lok 22:17:18 I should add ducks in townforge... somehow... 22:17:40 Geese maybe. More appropriate for Greenland. 22:17:54 Oh, there are geese actually. Nevermind. 22:18:25 Oooohh.... a goose dropping a bonus. That'd be wicked. 22:20:46 yeah that's the idea 22:21:03 randomly give out some coin 22:22:13 and no idea what townforge is. that a web game 22:23:18 It's my monero fork with an embedded game. And it's got geese flying about. 22:24:45 oh really cool LoL 22:26:31 (if anyone wants to try out a testnet of a city-sim type game on a chain, try ##townforge and see the /topic for links) 22:27:19 is this for real. looks awesome 22:27:34 Thank you ^_^ 22:27:58 cool mooo 22:28:43 does it use monero as a currency in game 22:29:16 No. All game actions are consensus based, so it needed *many* consensus changes. 22:29:56 ohh wow. so it has its own currency based on monero. and then is the game world data stored on a blockchain also? 22:30:06 (which makes it less secure than monero due to a lot of extra consensus code, let's have it here upfront) 22:30:22 Yes. If you have the chain, you can recreate the entire history of the game. 22:30:30 Including the 3D world and all. 22:30:49 rad! 22:31:06 No central servers. Ever node checks other players act within the game rules. 22:31:41 is there the ability to have secret things ingame. like a bag of holding that is contents are secret , vieweble by the owner only? 22:31:56 sounds very cool 22:31:59 Not in this game. 22:32:12 But I have ideas about this for another, if I get the energy... 22:32:38