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rottenwheel
sgp_: finally, at least one lol.
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sgp_[m]1
rottenwheel: 🎉
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rottenwheel
space is fugged though.
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rottenwheel
rip.
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h2017
hi
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donkeydonkey[m]
yo
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angrymonkeyboi[m
sup
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h2017
chilling
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omega
hello. if i use systemctl start monero ---- how do i use the status command to see in/out connections on my daemon?
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omega
the daemon is detached
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omega
i'm using tail -n100 /var/log/monero/monero.log - but i want to see -status
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omega
i want to see the total in/out connections
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omega
how to get -status when daemon is detached?
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donkeydonkey[m]
monerod status
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omega
monerod: command not found
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omega
is this why people complain about systemd?
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omega
there is something about systemctl
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mnt_grrrl
sethsimmons, this does not look right HiddenServicePort 18089 127.0.0.1:18089" | sudo tee -a /etc/tor/torrc
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mnt_grrrl
and tor barfs on it
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donkeydonkey[m]
try find where the binary is and run ./path/to/monerod status
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omega
thank you. i get /opt/monero/monerod status
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omega
2021-02-17 07:18:44.894 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.9-release)
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omega
Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request:
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omega
i had to remove rpc login from .conf to get monerod status to work
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omega
probably can pass the login detail with status request somehow
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omega
thanks so much for your help.
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donkeydonkey[m]
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omega
thanks!
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omega
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> what channel is best to post in about storing monero securely?
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I'm advised to only store small amounts of monero in the GUI under "simple mode"
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I want to use my hardware wallet to store all my monero, don't want to do the downloading the blockchain / syncing
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dEBRUYNE
You can use a hardware wallet with simple mode or a dedicated remote node
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> So, the dedicated remote node, I could set one up on a VPS is it and then connect to that?
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> that way I could trust the node
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> and wouldn't have the headache of syncing the blockchain on my laptop every time I want to open the GUI
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> are my funds ever in danger in simple mode when sending funds? A malicious node cannot steal my funds right?
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steinex
Hi, i have a problem with the Monero GUI. I Choose in the Interface that the current amount of my wallet is shown in the interface, however it just doesn't work. Neither if I choose Kraken or the other options. Any hints?
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steinex
monero-gui-0.17.1.9
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steinex
(I mean in EUR of course, sorry)
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steinex
oh seems i must do a klick. Nevermind then :D
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dEBRUYNE
Ageless: Yes, that would work
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dEBRUYNE
No, the node cannot steal your funds
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> ok, so it's just as safe to store all my Monero in simple mode with the hardware wallet as it is using my hardware wallet to store bitcoin, can you just confirm that? sorry if its a bit noobish I just need to be told told and told again to feel comfortable about it
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I also think the "about simple mode description" is a bit confusing by advising to just use it for small amounts
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> it seems to be the most convenient secure way to store Monero?
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int6xi3
hey all!
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int6xi3
I'm in trouble...
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int6xi3
The terminal window (Linux) where I'm running monerod from, it's now stuck in some weird resize loop
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int6xi3
it's some UI issue in Debian
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int6xi3
how can i safely quit monerod from a different terminal without corrupting monero's data?
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int6xi3
is it safe to just "kill" it?
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angrymonkeyboi[m
probably 🤷♂️
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angrymonkeyboi[m
try just kill, not kill -9
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Infinity8
he d/ced
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grc001[m]
.usd
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grc001[m]
woops my bad, wrong room
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colordungeon
hi everybody, I'm coming in from r/moneromining and have a couple questions about building a miner
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colordungeon
is b-die RAM irrelevant if I'm not overclocking?
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colordungeon
and I see posts here and there on r/moneromining saying not to overclock- what's the reason for this? because overclocking requires a disproportionate amount of power to provide a small amount of additional hashrate? or something else
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moneromooo
Try #monero-pools ?
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colordungeon
can do!
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colordungeon
other question for this channel then: what on-ramp does everyone use to get from fiat to XMR? localmonero is obviously the method most aligned with the principles of Monero, but sending cash through the mail makes me nervous
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moneromooo
I believe kraken is the most well regarded. There's also bitfinex and binance.
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duso
How long have you had to log in to use shapeshift?
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gingeropolous
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I am having issues sending my monero using trezor with the GUI
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DisBotXMR
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I downloaded the latest firmware before using it with the gui
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> I think I have 2.3.4, still get prompted to do 2.3.5 and 2.3.6
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DisBotXMR
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DisBotXMR
<Ageless> nvm it didnt update it to the latest firmware for whatever reason ill try again
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al
is there any way to run monerod on v6-only?
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al
--p2p-use-ipv6 doesn't seem to do anything
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moneromooo
--p2p-use-ipv6 enables it, but does not prevent ipv4. I don't think you can do v6 only.
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al
moneromooo, I don't want to prevent v4, I just don't have v4 on this machine
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ndorf
hm, there are only ipv4 seed nodes. maybe you need to specify ipv6 peers manually?
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pyu
World Econimic Forum's musing on "Crypto, what's good for":
www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Cryptocurrency_Uses_Cases_2020.pdf
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ndorf
the seed nodes are here:
github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…857e1a9bc/src/p2p/net_node.inl#L696 maybe try converting one or more to ipv6 notation and passing the result to --add-peer ?
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blaeks[m]
truth is within your enemy \m/
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blaeks[m]
<pyu "World Econimic Forum's musing on"> the truth is within your enemy \m/
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moneromooo
al: then try --p2p-ignore-ipv4
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al
ndorf, moneromooo, thanks. the issue is indeed that all seed peers are v4 only
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al
the notation isn't the issue though, this machine simply doesn't have ipv4 connectivity
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moneromooo
Oh I see. Let me see if I can find an IPv6 peer somewhere...
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al
I'll try starting my own seed on a dual stacked machine and try --add-peer'ing that one
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moneromooo
Does --add-peer 2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1:18080 work ?
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moneromooo
The issue you will have is that I think most known IPv6 peers are assholes :)
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moneromooo
As in, they lie to you.
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moneromooo
So you'll have a tenuous connection to the monero network without IPv4 or tor.
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al
unsurprising if ipv6 p2p is disabled by default :=
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al
moneromooo, --add-peer with an ipv6 doesn't seem to do anything, I tried --add-peer '[2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1]:18080' as well, but don't see any connection or log lines at log level 2
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moneromooo
Can you ping the IP ?
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al
64 bytes from 2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=12.0 ms
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al
I also checked with tcpdump, there were no packets to that IP
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moneromooo
Then --add-peer '[2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1]:18080' --log-level 1,net*:TRACE
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moneromooo
Then paste the relevant log to paste.debian.net
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moneromooo
(after, say, 30 seconds to be sure)
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al
hitting the 150 kb limit :)
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al
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al
2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1 doesn't show up in the log
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moneromooo
Try --add-exclusive-node instead of --add-peer
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moneromooo
Though: Network is unreachable when trying an IPv6 address. Doesn't look good.
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moneromooo
You might wnat to try --p2p-bind-ip N with N being an interface with an IPv6 address. Kind of a shot in the dark though.
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moneromooo
My machine does not have IPv6 so I can't debug that. Someone else will have ot.
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DisBotXMR
<Fyse> is this a two-way chat?
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moneromooo
almost certain it is.
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moneromooo
Well...
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moneromooo
Actually N-way with varying N, usually > 2.
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» moneromooo pedantic
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DisBotXMR
<Fyse> makes sense
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al
moneromooo, where did you see network unreachable for an IPv6? I think these were related to IPv4
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al
with exclusive node I get:
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al
2021-02-17 15:35:55.810 E Failed to resolve 2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1
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al
2021-02-17 15:35:55.810 I 0[priority]Connect failed to [2a01:4f8:c0c:7b27::1]:18080
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al
and no packets put on the wire
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moneromooo
al:
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moneromooo
2021-02-17 14:53:03.260 D Trying to connect to ::ffff:66.70.207.166:3280, bind_ip = 0.0.0.0
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moneromooo
2021-02-17 14:53:03.261 T Some problems at connect, message: Network is unreachable
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al
moneromooo, that's not really an IPv6 though, that's an IPv4 in SIIT notation
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al
it's odd that monerod sometimes uses this and sometimes plain IPv4 notation
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moneromooo
AFAIK these are IPv6. "Not really" is not a good description. Either they are IPv6 or not.
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moneromooo
And I said before, a known asshole added these to the peer lists to try and snare more people into using his lying nodes.
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moneromooo
So peer lists have both the IPv4 and the IPv6 corresponding to the same host.
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moneromooo
Now, maybe the boost network code uses IPv4 to connect to those, I cannot say.
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moneromooo
One thing I know is that my node can connect to those IIRC, and it's not set up for IPv6.
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moneromooo
But the addresses are IPv6 for sure.
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moneromooo
Anyway, you might want to consider tor instead ?
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ndorf
can't sync over tor right? only relay tx?
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gingeropolous
ndorf, i think you *could* sync over tor. i imagine it would take a while
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moneromooo
With torsocks, you can do everything.
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moneromooo
Though historical chain sync is not a good idea :)
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ndorf
makes sense
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moneromooo
Anyo coder around set up with IPv6 who wants to investigate this ? :)
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ndorf
i kind of do want to investigate this but none of my nodes have ipv6
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jivan
moneromooo: You're better off asking in ##networking, but since you're here
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jivan
That notation is for IPv6-address aware apps to use. The OS still needs to translate it under the hood into an IPv4 address and use its IPv4 stack (if it exists) to communicate with the IPv4 host that the address refers to
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jivan
For example, my ISP only provides IPv4 support (idiots), so if you want to talk to me from an IPv6 host, you need an IPv4 connection also
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jivan
If you don't have one, tough luck, you can't talk to me
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jivan
If you do, then you can tell IPv4-aware programs that my address is 1.2.3.4, or you can tell IPv6-aware programs that my address is ::ffff:1.2.3.4, or ::ffff:102:304
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jivan
Then your OS will talk to me using IPv4
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ndorf
there is NAT64, if the IPv6-only host's gateway supports it. it uses some other prefix though
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jivan
Indeed, there are a bunch of tunneling protocols to work around this issue, but none of them mean that either host is actually speaking the other protocol
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jivan
It's just middlemen doing the translation for you
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jivan
It's basically proxying
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moneromooo
Thanks, makes sense.
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M1312test1312[m]
What are you using instead of xmr.to since it stopped working? I pay many things in BTC where XMR is not available and I don't want to reinstall electrum after years without it...
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ndorf
don't think there is any real replacement for xmr.to. there are other instant exchanges, but they have both much higher minimum amounts and commissions than xmr.to. plus i don't think any of them do zero conf, so exchanges take much longer.
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sech1
I switched to Kraken, but it's far from instant
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sech1
and has kyc
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sech1
I don't trust other instant exchanges, they might give you tainted BTC from other users
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binaryFate
do you spend an equal time reaching out to your merchants and insist they accept XMR?
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ndorf
heh.
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ndorf
i've been trying to convince mullvad to accept XMR for like 3 years
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ndorf
ended up switching to IVPN.
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binaryFate
same, until I left them
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binaryFate
lol same
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ndorf
high five
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ndorf
better yet, high <unknown amount>
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kinghat[m]
why do they accept cash and BTC but not xmr. pretty dumb.
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ndorf
they accept BCH for crying out loud
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ndorf
i even tried using that once just to pay them. took like 5 hours to confirm a single block
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ndorf
never again lol
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sech1
binaryFate my favorite merchants use Bitpay, it's a lost cause
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DatBotXMR
moooooooo
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DisBotXMR
<Bananaboat> swapzone.io
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DisBotXMR
<Bananaboat> they show you all the swap exchanges that trade for XMR no KYC
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ndorf
yeah. and i'd definitely think twice before using any of them to pay an invoice directly
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ndorf
usually it's something like "send X BTC to Y address in 15 minutes" what happens when the exchange takes 20 minutes?
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DisBotXMR
<Bananaboat> oh for sure
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DisBotXMR
<Bananaboat> i wouldnt use it to pay an invoice
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Quotes
peanut butter jelly time!
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ndorf
bonus points if the merchant just auto-refunds to the sending BTC address. oops!
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ndorf
new bot who dis
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nioc
moooooooo
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moneromooo
mooooooo
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fluffydonkey[m]
I have a node fully set up on a (ubuntu) computer with the wallet working on that computer too. I'm trying to connect to it from another computer on the same local network, but the wallet is refusing to connect to the remote node.
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fluffydonkey[m]
How can I get the error log from the wallet to figure out what's going on
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moneromooo
--log-level 2
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moneromooo
The log will be in the same directory as the binary.
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fluffydonkey[m]
I meant GUI wallet
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moneromooo
Ah. Dunno then.
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ndorf
are you sure you enabled the node to listen on external IPs? by default it's 127.0.0.1 only, and unrestricted
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fluffydonkey[m]
That might be what's going on
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ndorf
run the daemon with these flags: --rpc-restricted-bind-port=18089 --rpc-restricted-bind-ip=0.0.0.0
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ndorf
then change the wallet to connect to port 18089 instead of 18081. should work
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ndorf
that sets up restricted rpc, which means the clients can't do things like shut down the node, pop blocks, get certain information, etc
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fluffydonkey[m]
Success!
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fluffydonkey[m]
Why was changing the port necessary? It should have still worked with 18081 right?
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ndorf
awesome
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ndorf
no
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ndorf
18081 is still bound to localhost-only for unrestricted RPC
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ndorf
i mean, you could expose the unrestricted RPC port too, but that can be somewhat dangerous
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fluffydonkey[m]
I understand now. Thank you
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ndorf
unrestricted rpc allows commands like `monerod exit`, you probably don't want untrusted clients doing that to your node.
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ndorf
that being said, if your whole network is trusted and secure, yeah you could just expose that.
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ndorf
this is the best setup 99% of the time though, IMHO.
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donkeydonkey[m]
to get it working on 18081 with restricted rpc couldnt you also set --rpc-bind-port=18081 --restricted-rpc
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ndorf
yes. but then you don't have unrestricted rpc even locally, which could prove very inconvenient if you run it in the background without the console
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donkeydonkey[m]
good one.
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al
[17:45:58 17.02.2021] <moneromooo> AFAIK these are IPv6. "Not really" is not a good description. Either they are IPv6 or not.
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al
ok, they really aren't IPv6
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al
it's an IPv4 in IPv6 compatible addressing, which can be used on AF_INET6 sockets
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al
hope that's a better descriptiong
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ndorf
donkeydonkey[m]: for a practical example, you wouldn't be able to change the bandwidth limits without restarting the daemon, with that setup
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donkeydonkey[m]
makes sence. i usually have my daemon running in the foreground so didnt think bout that.
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ndorf
gotcha, in that case it does make sense to just not have unrestricted rpc at all
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fibonacci
Good for you guys.. bout time
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DisBotXMR
<Izay21> Can someone help me setup a miner
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sethsimmons
<DisBotXMR "<Izay21> Can someone help me set"> Better question for #monero-pools, most likely.
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kjartan
Is there an explanation out there for the sawtooth-pattern that the volume on Monero is showing? Just curious...
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kjartan
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sech1
yes there is
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ndorf
that includes exchanges that straight up fake their volume.
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kjartan
But during the middle of December that didn't happen?
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ndorf
either that, or cmc wasn't including that exchange during that time
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ndorf
it's not really a realiable source for this kind of data. pick the exchange you think you can trust, and get it from them directly
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ndorf
exchange(s) i should say
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kjartan
I agree. Looks like the pattern started around 11th september last year with some huge spikes. Probably illuminati.
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DisBotXMR
<Cesium> is there any reason for me to not want to set up a node on a machine at home and forward a restricted port to the open internet so I can use the node on my laptop away from home?
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ndorf
Cesium: none, just make sure you open and forward the restricted RPC port, not the default unrestricted one
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ndorf
Cesium: if you don't want random strangers using your node you can set a user/pass on it, or require mining payment for RPC
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DisBotXMR
<Cesium> thank you
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ndorf
Cesium: alternatively you could use ssh tunneling and not forward any ports at all
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ndorf
well, aside from the ssh port, heh
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DisBotXMR
<Cesium> i already used ssh to do it but I just want to be even lazier
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rojiro[m]
is this the same channel as #monero on freenode?
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ndorf
yes
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ndorf
it's bridged. i'm connected to freenode
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rojiro[m]
what it's strange is that I am not seeing my chats from freenode. Perhpas it's knows since I have the same username in both places?
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ndorf
could be something like that. you're seeing my messages? i assure you i'm sending them to freenode :)
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rojiro[m]
yeah, i see your's. Must be some sort of filter for your own nick or something...
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Infinity8
This is freenode
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xfil
matrix users are the worst
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Infinity8
ban them all
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angrymonkeyboi[m
The 1980's called. They want their chat protocol back
