00:08:54 <angrymonkeyboi[m> I don't think so
00:27:59 <ndorf> changenow works in US
00:30:31 <nc1236[m]> <ndorf "changenow works in US"> Are you in the US?  I get blocked when I try to exchange currencies on there
00:30:38 <nc1236[m]> I have to use Tor
00:30:49 <ndorf> i'm in the US and it works for me, yeah
00:30:56 <ndorf> interesting, i thought they blocked tor actually
00:31:34 <nc1236[m]> You have to turn JavaScript on, but it works
00:33:06 <nc1236[m]> I had to constantly change my identity until I got an exit node that wasn't from the US
00:34:50 <ndorf> i've used it directly within the past week. from a very obvious Comcast residential IP
00:35:23 <fluffydonkey[m]> same here
00:35:38 <ndorf> however, I seem to remember them blocking me when i tried over Tor, with a german exit
00:36:52 <ndorf> there's also godex.io which does not seem to block anything
04:37:30 <L123> .
05:29:16 <vekin> with monero wallet cli how do i set a payment id?
05:30:07 <vekin> the syntax just says address amount
05:30:32 <vekin> oh nvm payment id is last
05:32:05 <vekin> bah says invalid argument
05:38:24 <vekin> wah its deprecated
05:46:16 <vekin> so if someone requires a payment_id i basically can't pay?
05:46:25 <vekin> oof
05:57:14 <fehho[m]> vekin Payment IDs are now integrated into the address you are sending to, if you are asked to manually send to a payment ID the service you are using hasn't had any updates in multiple years.
05:57:53 <vekin> yeah i'm realizing that now, previously i had just sent the monero to their main address
05:58:06 <vekin> they only just now started asking for a payment_id so it was confusing for me
06:01:40 <fatcat[m]> How am I supposed to configure threads in xmrig?
06:01:56 <fatcat[m]> JSON configuration settings for threads aren't really documented by xmrig.
06:02:10 <fatcat[m]>  * JSON configuration settings for threads aren't really documented well by xmrig.
06:02:51 <fehho[m]> vekin What are you trying to do? I'm confused and a little interested.
06:05:44 <vekin> an online merchant i had been purchasing from used to just ask for payment to one address
06:06:00 <vekin> which was fine, but now the email asking for payment points to a page that asks for order number as payment id
06:06:12 <vekin> i'm just going to message them informing them that the feature was deprecated
06:09:46 <vekin> although if i'm being honest having a bunch of sub-addresses for literally every single payment seems cumbersome
06:10:30 <vekin> guess they will have to figure it out :/
06:11:02 <fehho[m]> Yeah, sounds like a case of they went out of their way to find good documentation just to find out dated documentation. Su addresses can be reused though.
06:12:11 <fehho[m]> Integrated addresses docs: https://monerodocs.org/public-address/integrated-address
06:23:54 <fehho[m]> Could even have the order number encoded as the payment ID, just need to encode it because when the two were separate people would deposit to exchange without ID and get charged a recovery fee.
06:31:29 <vekin> fehho[m]: yeah it looks like they just need to update their payment system, i'm probably the only one using it LOL
07:07:50 <fatcat[m]> Can I mine to a subaddress instead of the primary address?
07:15:43 <fatcat[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/8ax2ka/monerooceanstream_pool_supports_mining_to_monero/
07:21:46 <fatcat[m]> Why can I not label subaddress 0 of an account?
07:21:51 <fatcat[m]>  * Why can I not label subaddress 0 of an account in monero CLI wallet?
07:24:29 <fatcat[m]> Ah, the label for subaddress 0 is account label.
07:37:19 * sir_poppins[m] uploaded an image: image.png (174KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LMzAkyqDwbgjRjEBBWLqHKCh/image.png >
08:18:26 <Infinity8> fatcat[m]: Yes
08:18:47 <fatcat[m]> Yes???
08:18:59 <Infinity8> All subaddresses are derived from your seed. It all goes to the same wallet
08:19:23 <fatcat[m]> Configuring xmrig is goddamn hard.
08:19:44 <Infinity8> fatcat[m]: https://web.getmonero.org/2019/10/18/subaddress-janus.html
08:19:50 <Infinity8> Once you have it configured it's smooth sailing
08:19:59 <Infinity8> I'm using xmr-stak-rx because I get the same hash rate
08:21:57 <fatcat[m]> Which mining software do you recommend?
08:22:40 <Infinity8> What's your CPU?
08:26:42 <mawk> I tried to mine with a not so old 8 cores intel xeon
08:26:46 <mawk> but it was like 2€/year payout
08:27:02 <mawk> but I was using monerod for mining, probably it's not great
08:27:29 <Infinity8> lol
08:27:47 <Infinity8> monerod is solo mining. You'll have more luck with pool mining
08:28:41 <mawk> does xmrig have the background mining featuer?
08:28:51 <mawk> it's not really a mining machine, it's a server I use
08:29:02 <mawk> so if I want to use its cpu for whatever reason I don't want to have to stop mining mnually
08:33:05 <Infinity8_> pos computer keeps hard locking
08:33:14 <Infinity8_> pretty sure my motherboard is toast
08:34:57 <mawk> you're running linux Infinity8_ ?
08:35:14 <mawk> please past last liens of kern.log
08:40:35 <fatcat[m]> <Infinity8 "What's your CPU?"> 5600X
08:41:29 <fatcat[m]> I don't know how to make xmrig use all huge pages instead of 11% of all huge pages.
08:42:49 <mawk> are you sure hugepages are better?
08:43:09 <mawk> MMU access time shouldn't be the bottleneck here
08:43:41 <fatcat[m]> It is written that huge pages increase performance a lot.
08:45:23 <fatcat[m]> According to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLDjBh9BwA, using all huge pages increases hash rate from 6780 to 7200.
08:46:11 <Infinity8_> mawk: yes. Feb 16 00:28:06 mintyworkstation kernel: [ 6980.949474] perf: interrupt took too long (3935 > 3913), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50750
08:46:12 <Infinity8_> Feb 16 00:28:07 mintyworkstation kernel: [ 6981.813268] ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 1 SControl 300)
08:46:24 <Infinity8_> It does it in Windblows as well
08:46:46 <mawk> hm
08:46:53 <mawk> to me it looks like an issue with your hdd
08:47:05 <mawk> but maybe not in the hdd itself
08:47:08 <Infinity8_> memtested already for 8 passes
08:49:29 <Infinity8> mawk: possibly
08:49:34 <Infinity8> I am getting SATA messages at boot
08:49:55 <fatcat[m]> How can I make xmrig use all 2MB huge pages?
08:50:04 <mawk> do you have latest microcode for your cpu?
08:50:18 <mawk> your cpu doesn't support 1GiB hugepages fatcat[m] ?
08:51:59 <mawk> I'm not sure if it would be better or not
08:52:26 <fatcat[m]> mawk: I think it may support 1GB pages, but I want to first experiment with 2GB pages.
08:52:39 <mawk> 2MiB you mean?
08:52:46 <fatcat[m]> Yes
08:52:48 <fatcat[m]> 2MB pages
08:53:18 <fatcat[m]> `xmrig --bench=1M` says `huge pages 11% 128/1168 +JIT`. I want 100%.
08:54:12 <Infinity8> mawk: Sometimes when I'm turning it on, it'll just constantly restart itself and not successfully post
08:54:13 <fatcat[m]>  * `xmrig --bench=1M` says `huge pages 11% 128/1168 +JIT`. I want 100% instead of 11%.
08:58:21 <mawk> ah Infinity8 yeah that seems like a real hardware issue then
08:58:27 <mawk> I was leaning on the driver side for a bit
08:58:30 <mawk> do you have your latest cpu microcode?
08:59:00 <Infinity8> are you asking me or fatcat?
09:07:07 <fatcat[m]> I figured out xmrig couldn't utilize all huge pages due to permission issue.
09:07:23 <fatcat[m]> I just need to figure out how to permit non-root users to use a lot of huge pages.
09:07:41 <fatcat[m]> With all huge pages, I get 7250H/s
09:08:35 <fatcat[m]> 7139H/s
09:10:48 <sech1> sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280
09:10:55 <sech1> and then all users have them
09:27:19 <mawk> put vm.nr_hugepages=1280 in /etc/sysctl.d/40-hugepages.conf
09:27:21 <mawk> fatcat[m]:
09:27:23 <mawk> then it's automatic at boot
10:00:52 <fatcat[m]> mawk: I already have that. The problem is non-root users aren't permitted to use more than 128 huge pages by default.
10:01:11 <fatcat[m]> I have to find a way to give permission to non-root users.
10:01:13 <mawk> it's probably another sysctl
10:01:46 <fatcat[m]> It can be /etc/security/limits.conf
10:29:27 <fatcat[m]> I realized I have to mount hugetlbfs in order to allow non-root users to request huge pages.
10:51:32 <fatcat[m]> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/6/html/virtualization_tuning_and_optimization_guide/sect-virtualization_tuning_optimization_guide-memory-huge_pages-1gb-runtime
11:08:04 <DisBotXMR> <Hmm -_-> Hi guys!  I want to ask you several questions:  1. Can I get balance in my wallet or perform some transactions with JSON RPC? 2. Exist some API to work with xmr wallet? 3. I was trying to use Web3 to work with wallet and use some public nodes but no luck with this. Need I some private node for this? (Check balance or perform transactions)  Thanks in advance!
12:52:52 <fatcat[m]> How can I make xmrig use 1GB huge page as a non-root user program?
12:52:58 <fatcat[m]>  * How can I make xmrig use 1GB huge pages as a non-root user program?
12:58:05 <moneromooo> Hmm: get_balance; yes; much better to run your own
12:59:07 <moneromooo> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html should have a fairly up to date list of the wallet RPC.
13:31:23 <sethsimmons> <fatcat[m] "How can I make xmrig use 1GB hug"> Huge pages are only accessible as a root user, AFAIK. No way around running XMRig as root.
13:34:48 <sethsimmons> nvm, just read scrollback, ignore me :)
13:40:00 <fatcat[m]> sethsimmons[m]: I realized monerod just fragmented RAM too much.
13:40:20 <fatcat[m]> After stopping monerod, xmrig can get all huge pages it wants as a non-root user application.
13:40:32 <fatcat[m]> The solution is to start xmrig before monerod.
13:41:54 <fatcat[m]> 3 1GB huge pages are only 0.7% faster than 1280 2MB huge pages. Disappointing.
13:41:59 <fatcat[m]> I'm going to use 1280 2MB huge pages.
13:42:17 <fatcat[m]>  * I'm going to use 1280 2MB huge pages because it is easier to allocate smaller pages.
13:45:14 <fatcat[m]> Can I change the number of used threads in xmrig during runtime through API calls?
13:45:37 <sethsimmons> You can force a load of a new config file while running
13:45:49 <sethsimmons> This does exactly that: https://github.com/dhensen/xmrig-auto-throttler
13:59:52 <fatcat[m]> How does xmrig-auto-throttler measure system load?
14:02:41 <fatcat[m]> sethsimmons[m]: ^^
14:03:01 <sethsimmons> Idk I'm not the dev, dig through the Github I linked and find out 🙂
14:04:42 <fatcat[m]> sethsimmons[m]: His program depends on `xprintidle`.
14:05:06 <fatcat[m]> https://github.com/g0hl1n/xprintidle
14:05:15 <fatcat[m]> I don't use X server...
14:05:21 <fatcat[m]> I use sway.
14:05:54 <fatcat[m]> This is also a terrible way to measure idle status on a headless server.
14:07:29 <sethsimmons> Ok, not sure how I can help you with that
14:07:39 <sethsimmons> I was sharing it as an example of how to change config file while running
14:11:20 <mmxxx[m]> https://lbry.tv/@bignastyhammer:c/Dr-Daniel-Kim-Fungibility-and-Bitcoin-being-real-estate-and-its-lack-of-privacy:c?r=AYTVDx49V72vyEcYV2JMwb6VevUoL5TS
14:12:07 <fatcat[m]> Where is xmrig HTTP API documented?
14:15:46 <sethsimmons> https://xmrig.com/docs/api
14:15:52 <sethsimmons> DuckDuckGo is your friend
14:15:59 <sethsimmons> Thats the first link returned by "xmrig api docs"
14:33:49 <grc001[m]> hi there. if i send coins to changenow n they send me xmr, does the kyc exchange that i got coins from know about the xmr i get?
14:35:27 <grc001[m]> am i supposed to send coins to my wallet (only have xmr wallet from now) and then send to changenow for most privacy? thanks
14:36:02 <fatcat[m]> sethsimmons[m]: https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/api/summary is not really useful.
14:36:03 <fatcat[m]> I don't know what to do with it.
14:36:17 <grc001[m]> runnin gui with full local node n vpn
14:40:15 <sethsimmons> <fatcat[m] "sethsimmons[m]: https://xmrig.co"> Open an issue if those docs aren't good enough for you. Again, I'm not the dev for that, so I'm not sure how I can help.
15:07:24 <fatcat[m]> I somehow figured it all out.
15:44:49 <cmlfacgvuyx> What kind of person steals from their own community? www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/
15:51:26 <mmxxx[m]> y'all do this every damn day.
15:52:50 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> eh
15:53:26 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> who cares... he made a tweet and speculators bought like crazy
15:53:26 <Quotes> peanut butter jelly time!
15:53:49 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> dont buy crypto based off some dudes tweet
15:53:55 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> buy it based on the fundamentals
15:54:55 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> yeah he pry shouldnt of done it but fluffy does have a point >_>
15:59:43 <Wharrgarbl[m]> No buy crypto based on whether the toast falls butter side down or not.
16:23:08 <apotheon> I have no idea what fluffypony supposedly did to prompt that reddit thread.
16:23:41 <Inge-> made a toungue-in-cheek announcement of the Monero Enterprise Alliance
16:23:56 <sethsimmons> Its just a spammer, ignore them.
16:24:06 <NickvanSaberhagn> Success has enemies
16:24:11 <apotheon> I noticed it was a spammer.  I'm just curious about the historical context of the reddit thread.
16:24:23 <NickvanSaberhagn> Fluffy’s gotta be used to it by now
16:24:26 <apotheon> Thanks, re: MEA.
16:24:36 <apotheon> I assume there is no MEA, and the whole thing was just empty nonsense.
16:25:48 <Inge-> I think it was during the crazy 2017 bubble with ICO's, scammy pump and dump coins, pushing marketing hype and "partnerships"
16:26:13 <Inge-> And it was not meant to be anything but a joke as I understand it
16:26:36 <apotheon> It was about that long ago, judging by the reddit thread, yeay.
16:26:41 <apotheon> (three year old thread)
16:27:28 <Inge-> Well we can see what some known entity like Elon Musk can do to the markets
16:28:44 <apotheon> I've never really traded cryptocurrencies, so I hadn't kept up with this stuff.  I'm considering doing so now, in a very low-key way (more like a volatile savings account than "market trader" activity), but I don't have any intention of doing so with Monero -- which I would prefer to just use more like a checking account (a way to buy and sell actual products and services without holding paper
16:28:50 <apotheon> money in-hand).
16:29:04 <apotheon> Yeah, Elon was a grenade in a room full of daytraders.
16:29:18 <Inge-> .stock GME
16:30:02 <Inge-> Monero isn't meant to be pumped :D It is quite boring. It just does what it says on the tin - the most private p2p electronic money out there.
16:30:20 <apotheon> exactly what I'd want from Monero
16:30:39 <Inge-> Doesn't mean it won't appreciate in value over time though.
16:31:46 <apotheon> Basic economics suggests it should appreciate over time, at least for a while.
16:57:53 <fluffypony> apotheon: https://mea.business
16:57:58 <fluffypony> that's the announcement video
17:02:50 <Inge-> but nobody reads the whitepaper
17:02:56 <Inge-> or the closing credits
17:03:05 <fluffypony> lo
17:03:07 <fluffypony> lol
17:04:20 <apotheon> fluffypony: Thanks.  I'll check it out later.
17:05:00 <apotheon> I imagine fluffypony sitting at home or work or whatever thinking "I'm getting pinged a lot.  Are they talking about that MEA crap again?"
17:05:14 <fluffypony> hahahah
17:05:16 <fluffypony> pretty much
17:06:47 <DisBotXMR> <Voker> why are we all bots
17:11:03 <Wharrgarbl[m]> ur the bot
17:26:32 <DisBotXMR> <Voker> :what:
17:29:58 <sech1> You're both bots, only I'm real
17:30:11 <Wharrgarbl[m]> you're a towel
17:41:24 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> its RTC feeds, they are using a different platform than you to connect to the channel etc
17:45:30 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> omfg
17:45:36 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> thats what this is about??? xDDDD
17:45:39 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> this video??
17:46:03 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> "ICO coming soon, obviously" is obviously a joke about all the ICOs >_<
17:46:03 <Quotes> peanut butter jelly time!
20:09:23 <angrymonkeyboi[m> Can I make a CCS to raise both money, and volunteers? I want to push for an effort but don't have the expertise in it myself
20:28:41 <DatBotXMR> angrymonkeyboi[m: you can ask in #monero-community for CCS related things
20:28:58 <DatBotXMR> mebbe get more response
20:43:48 <angrymonkeyboi[m> okay thanks
21:38:08 <d4boo> howdy o/ is it possible to use wallet-rpc with a daemon that is never fully synchronized? my node is always lagging few blocks behind and rarely reaches the "Synchronized OK" state. but I still want to check if I received payments.
21:39:55 <sethsimmons> Yes, IIRC all wallets except mobile/GUI will still work properly if the daemon is a few blocks behind
21:40:24 <sethsimmons> But you shouldn't be always a few blocks behind -- have you tried running with the `--enable-dns-blocklist` flag?
21:40:42 <sethsimmons> Could be your hitting malicious nodes that are known and thats causing the sync issues.
21:44:27 <d4boo> yes I'm running with this flag, and it outputs hundreds of banned IPs from time to time
21:44:52 <d4boo> I think it's an issue with not enough CPU
21:45:02 <sethsimmons> What hardware are you running on?
21:45:19 <d4boo> amazon ec2 t3.micro
21:45:37 <sethsimmons> Hmm would expect that could stay in sync after a slow IBD
21:45:38 <sethsimmons> Odd
21:45:56 <d4boo> I really thought that once synchronized it would be really easy to keep up with the network, but apparently not. It was even worse when I tried with a nano instance
21:47:09 <d4boo> but when I change the instance type to a medium/small type, it synchronizes quite fast and stays in sync. but price wise it's not worth it
21:48:42 <d4boo> so I was wondering also if it's possible to connect to a remote node and hash to get credits on the node? I tried this afternoon to use a remote node with wallet-rpc but after several hours I got disconnected. it's not reliable. and running the full node on the instance, if not in sync it seems I can't use rpc :'(
21:49:16 <sethsimmons> I would recommend another provider other than AWS
21:49:20 <sethsimmons> What are you looking to spend?
21:50:15 <sethsimmons> Hetzner is a good general option, Linode isn't bad, cockbox accepts Monero and works alright
21:50:18 <d4boo> it's just convenient because my website/service is already on EC2 and I can safely/easily have a wallet-rpc instance with which I communicate to check payments
21:50:36 <sethsimmons> ah
21:53:16 <ComplyLast> hetzner doesnt accept crypto right sethsimmons?
21:53:34 <sethsimmons> Sadly, no.
21:53:48 <sethsimmons> I've reached out to them and they said they'll take it into consideration but I doubt it's a serious reply.
21:53:58 <xfil> I pay my hetzner servers using xmr via a reseller
21:54:16 <sech1> how?
21:54:22 <xfil> if you look around there's a few people in the seedbox space offering this
21:54:30 <xfil> just contact them and ask for the specific specs you need
21:54:31 <sethsimmons> huh
21:54:57 <sethsimmons> links?
21:55:03 <sech1> so it's like 2nd hand server? Then not so interesting
21:55:33 <charolastra> it's always 2nd hand ;) but sure does sound interesting
22:02:55 <xfil> walkerservers.com for example seems to be using coinpayments.net
22:05:48 <d4boo> (I get "THROW EXCEPTION: tools::error::no_connection_to_daemon" from wallet-rpc if my node is not Synchronized OK ready, which is never). So I was more thinking to use --rpc-client-secret-key and stay always connected to a remote node. Is that safe, will it work?
22:27:56 <d4boo> I just realized you are hosting some nodes sethsimmons xD
22:28:02 <d4boo> I'll give it a try
22:29:22 <sethsimmons> <d4boo "I just realized you are hosting "> Yeah should be quite stable 🙂
22:29:35 <sethsimmons> Use node-1, others might be going away for a bit as I switch hosters.
22:29:53 <d4boo> ha. my setup is in frankfurt I was thinking of node-2
22:29:57 <d4boo> but shouldn't be a big issue
22:31:04 <d4boo> ha sorry node-1 is also in frankfurt
22:31:12 <d4boo> perfect
22:31:35 <d4boo> will the --rpc-client-secret-key have any effect, as in hashing to get credits on your node?
23:29:17 <sethsimmons> I don’t have RPC hashing enabled, so don’t need to worry about that.
23:37:49 <Welastevil> hi folks
23:39:36 <Welastevil> I'm new in monero mining. I think that now a days its worth mining more than Bitcoin or Ethereum for example
23:48:26 <moneromooo> If you just have a CPU, it's certanly worth mining monero a whole lot more than mining bitcoin :)