02:17:27 <fatcat[m]> Gentoo is better than FreeBSD.
02:21:13 <mycorrhizae[m]> I went with a keepkey.
02:21:39 <mycorrhizae[m]> Just needed something asap to access my coin. I can upgrade again if necessary.
02:23:13 <fatcat[m]>  * Gentoo is better than FreeBSD. I used both. I prefer gentoo.
02:24:58 <louipc> linux has wider support, so likely to have a better experience
02:28:19 <strike> i ran gentoo for like 4 years
02:28:37 <strike> mostly because reproducible builds werent really a thing
02:29:25 <strike> once debian had the majority of their packages reproducible i found no reason to run it
02:36:37 <needmoney90> When Monero TempleOS build
02:39:03 <louipc> never
02:41:30 <h2017> i thought that was pre-funded already
02:41:50 <needmoney90> (templeos does not have networking support and my comment was tongue in cheek)
02:42:01 <nioc> I only pre fund mooo
02:48:25 <styxx[m]> why is that doge shitcoin taking over a bitcoin fork
02:48:26 <styxx[m]> wth is going on
02:49:22 <styxx[m]>  * why is that doge shitcoin outrunning the most sirius prime bitcoin fork
02:49:39 <h2017> styxx[m], #monero-markets for price talk
02:49:54 <louipc> because doge is the best
02:50:56 <styxx[m]> ok boss
02:52:15 <as2333> dogshit coin
02:53:07 <louipc> bitcoin is the original shitcoin
02:59:44 <mnt_grrrl> I am learning about aws for work and wonder if anyone has set up spot instances to mine. I suspect it is not efficent but might be worth doing for learn. Anyone have an experince with this?
03:58:20 <gingeropolous> mnt_grrrl, yeah its pretty good if you can get cheap aws credits
04:03:41 <mnt_grrrl> cool
04:03:51 <mnt_grrrl> gingeropolous, just want to due it to learn
05:25:59 <rod> hello.  anyone use monero on freebsd?
05:26:05 <rod> anyone use pool software?
05:29:39 <vekin> i wouldn't mine on freebsd if i were you
05:29:52 <vekin> sloooowww
05:44:27 <Mochi102> rod, pool software in #monero-pools
05:44:52 <Mochi102> It's a bit more rough than here though. So if you're sensitive...
07:10:41 <fatcat[m]> monerod fails to sync past 98%. Here's the log. https://pastebin.com/NU8phcMb
07:16:24 <fatcat[m]> It is synchronizing, but I see a lot of errors on the log.
07:27:50 <fatcat[m]> RandomX's large page allocator keeps failing. A workaround is `sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280`. However, it is not a fix.
07:28:05 <fatcat[m]>  * RandomX's large page allocator keeps failing and pollutes the log. A workaround is `sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1280`. However, it is not a fix.
07:47:39 <sethsimmons> That's the fix. There need to be huge pages allocated, set them permanently with `sudo bash -c "echo vm.nr_hugepages=1280 >> /etc/sysctl.conf"`
07:48:09 <sethsimmons> * That's the fix. There need to be huge pages allocated, set them permanently with `sudo bash -c "echo vm.nr_hugepages=1280 >> /etc/sysctl.conf"`
07:48:51 <sethsimmons> If mining at the same time as running a mode, you'll need to up that as well.
07:48:59 <sethsimmons> * If mining at the same time as running a node, you'll need to up that as well.
07:52:24 <crm> Any tip on how to speed up monerod's blockchain sync? If I let it sync at the current rate it's not gonna finish this year
07:53:00 <crm> I know you can import the blockchain manually, but will I have to do that every time I want to update the blockchain or will monerod do it automatically from that point onwards?
08:06:40 <fehho[m]> That speed sounds like you have a spinning disk hard drive. Once you import you should be able to keep up with the network, but the only 'fix' is using a flash memory.
08:07:46 <crm> Yea, I have an HDD on this machine. I'm on FreeBSD though so I suppose importing the 'linux64' tar will not cause any problems, right?
08:09:57 <crm> Nevermind the 'linux64' part, I confused some stuff in the guide :-)
08:23:14 <crm> I'm a bit confused with some stuff. If monerod hasn't synced the blockchain yet, will I be able to use monero-wallet-cli or does monerod first have to fully sync?
08:33:46 <mmxxx[m]> Needs to sync first
08:36:00 <crm> mmxxx[m]: Thanks :)
08:38:12 <mycorrhizae[m]> Man all these new defi shitcoins are a little much
09:04:21 <fehho[m]> crm: You could use someone else's node while yours syncs, but that is obviously using not your node.
10:55:14 <multifractal> since yesterday the monero gui client on tails can't connect to any remote node. it just spins for a minute and says disconnected. no idea why, it worked the day before.
11:42:26 <multifractal> I'm seeing "Some problems at connect, message: "Connection Refused""
11:42:30 <multifractal> in the logs
11:58:08 <multifractal> I've tried many remote nodes, and get the same problem with all of them
11:58:19 <multifractal> Only since yesterday, prior to that I was able to connect and make transactions
11:59:42 <moneromooo> Remote as in not yours ?
11:59:50 <moneromooo> Or remote as in yours on another machine ?
12:00:35 <manifest> are you the admin of your network, is it possible that someone has denied connections to remote node ports?
12:01:15 <multifractal> moneromooo: I tried all the ones listed on moneroworld.com
12:01:36 <multifractal> manifest: I don't think so, this is just at my home
12:06:29 <multifractal> I put some of the console logs in a paste if that helps: https://pastebin.com/LeugmPim
12:07:20 <moneromooo> Oh, that's P2P. I am interested in that. I thought you meant RPC :)
12:07:25 <moneromooo> Then rm p2pstate.bin, try again.
12:08:31 <multifractal> moneromooo: hmm i don't know what you mean. i don't appear to have any file called p2pstate.bin
12:10:03 <moneromooo> Look some more. It should be where the lmdb directory is. Usually ~/.bitmonero.
12:11:48 <jonah_xd[m]> 90% of the time i just scratch my head because i have no idea what you people are talking about.
12:13:08 <multifractal> moneromooo: right you are, i found it in that hidden directory. deleted it and re-ran the monero gui app, but it still fails to connect.
12:13:53 <moneromooo> Was monerod running when you removed the file ?
12:14:09 <multifractal> moneromooo: i restarted it, i believe
12:14:52 <multifractal> quick question - should i be running monerod daemon process manually before opening the GUI app? Of course normally I never used to do this, but I did it today so that I could view and paste the logs to you guys
12:15:02 <moneromooo> Restart monerod with: --add-exclusive-node 88.198.163.90:18080
12:15:17 <moneromooo> It should not matter either way.
12:15:41 <moneromooo> (except if you want to run do things like adding options etc, or interact with the daemon)
12:16:45 <multifractal> moneromooo: OK I restarted the daemon with the option you provided
12:16:53 <multifractal> Want me to restart the gui app?
12:16:54 <moneromooo> Does it connect ?
12:17:00 <moneromooo> Just monerod.
12:17:47 <multifractal> moneromooo: It seems to just be hanging on a warning called "no two valid DNS TXT records were received" (which I recall seeing before as well)
12:18:04 <moneromooo> Does "status" show any outgoing connection ?
12:19:28 <multifractal> moneromooo: I don't see anything like that - you mean in the console in the monerod output?
12:19:36 <moneromooo> Yes.
12:19:41 <moneromooo> sync_info then
12:20:01 <moneromooo> Or just paste the line status prints.
12:22:09 <multifractal> moneromooo: pastebin.com/3kuhTZ7p
12:22:49 <moneromooo> Oh, that's TAILS isn't it.
12:23:15 <multifractal> Hey, there's a new p2pstate.bin file where I had deleted it before
12:23:22 <moneromooo> Expected.
12:23:31 <moneromooo> Does "wget https://getmonero.org/" work ?
12:24:24 <multifractal> moneromooo: yeah that downloaded a file index.html
12:24:41 <moneromooo> You can remove it now.
12:25:29 <moneromooo> It's failing at once so not timing out. I don't know why then.
12:26:39 <multifractal> moneromooo: just FYI I had selected node.xmr.to:18081 a couple of days ago, and successfully made transactions
12:36:16 <multifractal> i'm kinda hoping I come back to this in a month or so, and some updates have magically fixed everything
12:38:14 <moneromooo> Well, you can try running with --log-level 1,net*:TRACE in case it gives better info.
12:38:42 <moneromooo> With --add-exclusive-node 88.198.163.90:18080 again for less spam.
12:43:05 <multifractal> moneromooo: pastebin.com/QCUMGnHU
12:44:05 <moneromooo> Pastebin just started wanting js, I'll check that when it reverts to sanity.
12:44:31 <moneromooo> (well, fucking cloudflare assholes do, not pastebin itself)
12:45:38 <multifractal> moneromooo: is there somewhere else i can put it other than pastebin?
12:46:36 <moneromooo> I use paste.debian.net usually.
12:47:18 <multifractal> paste.debian.net/1185061
12:47:20 <moneromooo> Anyone knows whether "privacy pass" is legit or some knd of honeypot ?
12:47:56 <moneromooo> Doesn't help. Seems to be an issue on your end tbh.
12:48:19 <moneromooo> The instant fail hints no messge even gets on the wire.
12:48:33 <manifest> i'd suggest trying another connection yeah
12:48:51 <moneromooo> wget worked so connectivity's fine.
12:49:08 <multifractal> moneromooo: I haven't changed any settings since it worked successfully to send/receive money
12:49:09 <manifest> maybe the isp hates monero
12:49:09 <moneromooo> Looks more like some kind of local configuration.
12:49:28 <moneromooo> If it's TAILS, the ISP doesn't see it.
12:49:41 <moneromooo> I assume TAILS since amnesia user in the logs.
12:49:44 <multifractal> yep
12:54:12 <moneromooo> I just checked I can connect to the node above via torsocks.
12:59:30 <multifractal> What is the "instant fail" part? Are there any tails settings I can try changing?
13:04:36 <moneromooo> If I knew that, I'd have told you. Sorry, you're on your own now.
13:18:01 <multifractal> moneromooo: can you explain to me in layman's terms what is the problem? I don't really know anything about networking
13:18:34 <moneromooo> If I knew that, I'd have told you. Sorry, you're on your own now.
13:19:31 <moneromooo> You need to find someone who knows what TAILS does to have an idea of where to look really.
13:49:45 <multifractal> moneromooo: This may or may not interest you - as a test, I just created a totally fresh tails USB, downloaded monero gui, and created a temporary dummy wallet. It is happily connected to node.xmr.to:18081. So I guess this means there is something I inadvertently screwed up with my original Tails stick - some configuration or something.
13:50:16 <multifractal> It wouldn't be a problem with my wallet, right?
13:53:54 <moneromooo> It's vaguely interesting since RPC and P2P use the same low level network code.
13:55:04 <moneromooo> Only low level though.
14:07:06 <multifractal> moneromooo: well how do you like that.... I just deleted the directory ~/Persistent/Monero and re-ran the gui app (which then asked me all the first-time configuration questions). After doing that it connects to node.xmr.to:18081 just fine. I just sent myself a little transaction to test it all out!
14:07:25 <multifractal> (making sure to back up my wallets, of course)
14:08:12 <multifractal> I must have inadvertently screwed up some setting somewhere, and giving it a fresh start fixed everything.
14:10:55 <multifractal> It would have been more useful to keep the old screwed up directory, to compare changes and hopefully isolate what the problematic setting was, but oh well you live you learn
14:12:09 <fatcat[m]> Why do I have to enable large page support in order to silence RandomX large page allocator exceptions in monerod log?
14:12:20 <fatcat[m]> large page support wasn't documented anywhere.
14:13:39 <fatcat[m]> I am not really mining...
14:19:17 <sethsimmons> Huge pages are necessary for bulk block validation IIRC
14:19:35 <sethsimmons> Since you don't (and shouldn't) run `monero` as root, it cannot assign huge pages itself.
14:19:52 <sethsimmons> <fatcat[m] "I am not really mining..."> "not really", or actually not mining at all?
14:20:00 <hyc> not required, it'll just hash a little slower without
14:20:02 <sethsimmons> I only hit the actual stack trace when mining alongside `monerod`
14:20:17 <sethsimmons>  * Huge pages are optimal for bulk block validation IIRC
14:20:23 <sethsimmons> Changed wording to optimal :)
14:20:36 <sethsimmons> <hyc "not required, it'll just hash a "> Do you mean verify?
14:20:44 <sethsimmons> This gets hit even if you're not mining in `monerod`.
14:20:54 <hyc> verify is one step that hashes, yes
14:20:59 <hyc> mining is another
14:21:12 <sethsimmons> Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification.
14:22:35 <fatcat[m]> I don't run monerod as root.
14:22:48 <fatcat[m]> I'm not mining at all.
14:22:48 <hyc> nobody does, I'd hope
14:23:48 <fatcat[m]> I read a thing about 1GB page. Is it applicable to monerod, too?
14:23:54 <hyc> running as root wouldn't change that eception anyway. huge pages must be preallocated
14:24:50 <fatcat[m]> Unless there are large pages, randomx large page allocator keeps polluting monerod log with exceptions.
14:25:03 <fatcat[m]> This must be dealt with or documented. It's not documented.
14:25:37 <hyc> there's plenty of stuff in logs that's not documented
14:25:51 <hyc> if monerod keeps running, then ignore it
14:26:14 <fatcat[m]> I want to analyze monerod log. large page allocator exceptions make it impossible to analyze log.
14:26:37 <fatcat[m]> It occupies 99.9999% of monerod log...
14:27:36 <hyc> it is definitely annoying. randomx library should never have been written to use exceptions
14:27:51 <fatcat[m]> monerod log becomes a public toilet with randomx large page allocator exceptions..
14:28:23 <sethsimmons> Then open an issue about it if there isn't already one: 🙂
14:28:36 <sech1> well, allocate some large pages on your system then and make monerod happy
14:28:37 <hyc> there's proably been several, closed by now
14:29:21 <hyc> or just setenv MONERO_RANDOMX_UMASK = 1
14:30:08 <fatcat[m]> What does it do?
14:30:20 <fatcat[m]> I executed `sysctl vm.nr_hugepages=1280`.
14:30:33 <moneromooo> There's a patch on github to silence that after the first one.
14:32:09 <fatcat[m]> What does `MONERO_RANDOMX_UMASK = 1` do?
14:32:44 <fatcat[m]> By the way, which filesystem do you recommend for synchronizing monero blockchain on HDD? I'm using btrfs without copy-on-write, but btrfs without copy-on-write is less reliable than ext4 or xfs.
14:39:56 <sethsimmons> Something without journaling/CoW is fastest, RAW is even faster.
14:40:16 <sethsimmons> IIRC LMDB has to be patched to support raw but that is the fastest options.
14:44:26 <hyc> fatcat https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7373
14:44:55 <hyc> and yes, sethsimmons is correct about filesystems
16:36:33 <sRoder> hello anyone use pool software for monero?
16:55:07 <sRoder> anyone from California or USA here?
16:55:27 <sethsimmons> A lot I would assume -- whats up?
16:57:08 <david[m]12> <sRoder "anyone from California or USA he"> I’m in the USA
17:05:32 * nnm https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wd4VorkiKz1DWHkIKRxXgmEf50DysZP8/view?usp=sharing
17:08:08 <david[m]12> Where can a newbie go to get more info on Monero, how it differs from Zcash, etc.?
17:09:29 <mmxxx[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/what-is-monero/
17:10:32 <mmxxx[m]> as for differences between zcash and xmr
17:11:36 <hyc> xmr works, zcash doesn't. which is why xmr has users, and zcash doesn't.
17:11:39 <mmxxx[m]> https://www.monero.how/
17:12:37 <mmxxx[m]> https://www.bitdegree.org/crypto/tutorials/zcash-vs-monero
17:15:21 <mycorrhizae[m]> Thnxx mmxxx
17:15:42 <mmxxx[m]> no problem.
17:16:54 <sethsimmons> Hopefully helpful to anyone wanting to give back to Monero but not sure how: https://sethsimmons.me/posts/contributing-to-monero/
17:45:51 <sRoder> new to monero here. any hints or tips?
17:48:19 <xmronadaily[m]> Anything in particular you'd want to know about? https://www.getmonero.org/ has a great collection of resources and guides for a starting point.
17:50:37 <charolastra> my tip, which applys to everything: DYOR
17:51:22 <agentpatience> send me your moronic seeds
18:10:32 <sethsimmons> <sRoder "new to monero here. any hints or"> Also https://t.co/To61By05hc?amp=1
18:10:47 <sethsimmons> > <@freenode_sRoder:matrix.org> new to monero here. any hints or tips?
18:10:47 <sethsimmons>  * Also https://www.monerooutreach.org/quick-facts.html
18:11:31 <sethsimmons> <david[m]12 "Where can a newbie go to get mor"> Good info here: https://www.monerooutreach.org/quick-facts.html
18:13:02 <vdo[m]> sRoder: never ever go to a boat party
18:18:34 <xmronadaily[m]> <vdo[m] "sRoder: never ever go to a boat "> But if you do, make sure your boat is stacked with quality 2014 Barolo bottles.
18:30:33 <sRoder> lol like the boat jokes.  spent many months on the ocean, so I like. :)
18:33:10 <vdo[m]> then you found the best community, we always talk about ships and boats
18:41:31 <sech1> boating accidents are unusually frequent in this community
18:43:58 <vdo[m]> we also like international waters
18:44:55 <vdo[m]> like Rose Island, Sealand, and alike
18:45:06 <david[m]12> <mmxxx[m] "https://www.bitdegree.org/crypto"> This was helpful, thanks. But it doesn't tell my "Zcash doesn't work", per the comment above.
18:45:53 <mmxxx[m]> I've never used zcash to know if it works or not.
18:46:03 <mmxxx[m]>  * I've never used zcash to know if it 'works' or not.
18:46:18 <omega> i'm getting this is my daemon log for a tor node. Is this normal? 2021-02-11 13:32:50.403	[P2P3]	WARNING	net.p2p.tx	src/cryptonote_protocol/levin_notify.cpp:681	Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no suitable outbound connections at height 2294502
18:46:18 <omega> 2021-02-11 13:41:17.528	[P2P6]	WARNING	net.p2p.tx	src/cryptonote_protocol/levin_notify.cpp:681	Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no suitable outbound connections at height 2294509
18:46:18 <omega> 2021-02-11 14:10:02.813	[P2P8]	WARNING	net.p2p.tx	src/cryptonote_protocol/levin_notify.cpp:681	Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no suitable outbound connections at height 2294523
18:46:19 <omega> 2021-02-11 14:11:45.904	[P2P1]	WARNING	net.p2p.tx	src/cryptonote_protocol/levin_notify.cpp:681	Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no suitable outbound connections at height 2294525
18:56:10 <selsta> omega: normal if you don't have any outgoing tor peers
18:56:30 <selsta> can you enter print_cn and check if you have tor peers?
18:59:33 <omega> netstat -npap returns a bunch of connections likethis: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:54974         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:33 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:42110         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:33 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55190         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:33 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55250         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:33 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9050          127.0.0.1:48642         ESTABLISHED 733/tor
18:59:35 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55044         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:37 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:55256         127.0.0.1:18083         ESTABLISHED 733/tor
18:59:39 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55222         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:41 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55272         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:43 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:39878         127.0.0.1:18083         ESTABLISHED 733/tor
18:59:45 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:55084         127.0.0.1:18083         ESTABLISHED 733/tor
18:59:47 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:54974         127.0.0.1:18083         ESTABLISHED 733/tor
18:59:49 <omega> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:18083         127.0.0.1:55206         ESTABLISHED 765/monerod
18:59:52 <raecarruth> o_0
19:00:00 <raecarruth> pastebin?
19:00:09 <omega> ok
19:00:13 <omega> thank you
19:03:30 <omega> https://pastebin.com/kCaH8pgS
19:03:56 <omega> following this https://monerodocs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/
19:04:42 <omega> i can connect a wallet to this node without an issue.
19:05:03 <omega> but i think the daemon is full slefish leacher now
19:07:39 <h2017> hi
19:08:31 <marmulak> According to cryptobriefing.com "A Monero proposal has raised $150,000 to convince Elon Musk to accept XLM as payment for Tesla vehicles."
19:08:41 <omega> remove face mask
19:09:23 <mmxxx[m]> <marmulak "According to cryptobriefing.com "> stupidity.
19:09:31 <marmulak> why XLM
19:09:33 <marmulak> 😕
19:09:42 <mmxxx[m]> typo?
19:09:46 <mmxxx[m]> meant to say xmr?
19:09:50 <mmxxx[m]> makes no sense otherwise.
19:09:54 <marmulak> yes
19:10:11 <marmulak> funny misunderstanding
19:29:21 <nioc> musk will do nothing with xmr, he needs to protect his btc investment
20:00:30 <moneroteslagood> Dudes, are integrated_address deprecated?
20:01:24 <selsta> no
20:03:01 <angrymonkeyboi[m> <moneroteslagood "Dudes, are integrated_address de"> No, it's useful for merchants
20:03:13 <angrymonkeyboi[m> And other automated methods of accepting payment
20:19:19 <mmxxx[m]> <moneroteslagood "Dudes, are integrated_address de"> i use them
20:33:21 <nojlbbibsm> FIY, you want to know why you are getting those daily messages? Cults NEED to control information. That's why people like lh1008 get savagly attacked (also called disconnection) for even talking to me. Break the information embargo, break the cult. Who would sign up to Scientology if they knew from the get-go that is is about a sci-fi alien overlord? Who would sign up to MAGA if they knew what a loser Trum
20:33:21 <nojlbbibsm> p is?
20:33:21 <nojlbbibsm> You don't sign up to MAGA to do a failed Viking LARP and some time off in club fed. You sign up because you feel like shit and they promise to give you self-respect. It is a total lie of course, you are still a joke even when cosplaying a Viking. Just like Monero's promise of privacy is a lie.
20:37:17 <rupee[m]1> we should all use venmo then
20:39:02 <ComplyLast> rupee[m]1, agree
21:33:21 <vikrants[m]> Did monerotesla pump the price?
21:33:21 <vikrants[m]> (Kidding... just trying to lighten the mood on that subject)