01:24:17 <rottenwheel> Revuo Issue 92 - https://revuo-monero.com/issue-92.html
01:58:35 <billionaireboysc> What’s the best mobile wallet for iPhone
02:08:07 <mycorrhizae[m]> <billionaireboysc "What’s the best mobile wallet fo"> Cake wallet?
02:16:31 <billionaireboysc> It’s it actually that good?
02:20:20 <stillrupee[m]> For iphone, i like cake best. The other contenders are MyMonero and Edge
02:41:16 <kaz> Hi, can someone help me access data.mbd on Mac? thanks in advance
03:57:21 <Tonic98> HI! i wondered if anyone could help me
03:57:44 <Tonic98> Daemon will not let me transfer coins says its too busy try back later
03:58:07 <gingeropolous> Tonic98, are you using your own daemon or remote?
03:58:17 <Tonic98> local node
03:58:45 <Tonic98> i downloaded the newer version of gui wallet
03:59:00 <Tonic98> im on mac OS 11.7
03:59:25 <gingeropolous> is the daemon synchronized?
03:59:34 <Tonic98> yes
04:00:31 <gingeropolous> hrmmm
04:01:09 <gingeropolous> i assume uve tried turning it on and off again ? :)
04:01:48 <Tonic98> hmm it meaning my computer?
04:01:52 <Tonic98> ugh
04:02:01 <gingeropolous> naw, i meant the wallet / gui etc
04:02:08 <Tonic98> oh yes
04:02:11 <Tonic98> yes i did do that
04:02:20 <Tonic98> its a bright shiny new wallet
04:02:30 <gingeropolous> lemme fire up the gui
04:02:44 <Tonic98> thanks! im getting nervous lol
04:05:11 <gingeropolous> bloody thing crashed my virtualbox vm
04:07:10 <gingeropolous> Tonic98, there's somewhere in the GUI you can enter commands into the daemon to see whats its doing
04:07:22 <Tonic98> yes
04:07:29 <Tonic98> i entered status in there
04:07:33 <Tonic98> i dont understand code
04:08:19 <gingeropolous> thats ok. neither did i
04:08:23 <gingeropolous> what did it spit out?
04:08:41 <gingeropolous> well i still don't. but i can work the daemon cli sometimes :)
04:09:04 <Tonic98> well its not connecting to the node now
04:09:40 <Tonic98> it was connected a minute ago with everything sync
04:09:42 <Tonic98> uhj
04:09:44 <Tonic98> ugh
04:11:02 <gingeropolous> ah what th ehell there's no pruning int he gui?
04:12:01 <gingeropolous> wait, its not connecting to the node?
04:12:01 <Tonic98> well its forever closing my wallet
04:12:03 <gingeropolous> but its a local node
04:12:05 <Tonic98> nope
04:12:08 <Tonic98> yes
04:12:30 <Tonic98> its says it disconnected, i tried closing down and its just working and working
04:12:49 <gingeropolous> its trying to save its state or something
04:13:01 <Tonic98> looks like its working checking local node status but its frozen
04:13:05 <Tonic98> i cant close it
04:13:22 <Tonic98> im going to have to start the computer again
04:13:31 <gingeropolous> well, at this point either wait for it to close nicely or do whatever u do on a mac to force things to close
04:13:40 <Tonic98> heehee
04:13:47 <gingeropolous> i don't do macs
04:14:15 <Tonic98> yeah ive been trying to transfer forever! i need a break anyway uhj
04:14:22 <gingeropolous> are u in advanced mode or simple mode?
04:14:22 <Tonic98> time is money and this crap is costing me
04:14:32 <Tonic98> hmmm
04:14:46 <Tonic98> idk anymore  which one should i be in
04:15:14 <gingeropolous> i would go with advanced, that way we can actually try and do stuff
04:15:37 <gingeropolous> time isn't money. time is monero
04:15:45 <Tonic98> ahah right!
04:16:31 <Tonic98> i really appreciate your help gingeropolous
04:16:39 <gingeropolous> well lemme know when you get it up and running in advanced mode
04:16:58 <gingeropolous> no prob dude
04:17:17 <Tonic98> yes ill be back in a bit. ive been ignoring the child.
04:17:42 <gingeropolous> aight yeah ima do some dishes
04:19:29 <Tonic98> im ignoring those too
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06:27:01 <tonic98> hi everyone. Im having problems with my gui wallet
06:27:10 <tonic98> it is not connecting
06:27:45 <tonic98> and when it was connected it wouldnt let me transfer my coins
06:27:53 <robert3223[m]1> alright is it a good time to buy right now?
06:28:26 <Inge-> tonic98: are you running it in simple mode? try some other nodes?
06:28:37 <tonic98> yes simple nod for now
06:28:55 <tonic98> should i try advanced?
06:29:30 <Inge-> only if you want to download the 100GB blockchain
06:29:43 <Inge-> but you might try a different node
06:30:12 <tonic98> a local node perhaps?
06:30:38 <tonic98> im not sure how to do that anymore since i am not given any option to do that
06:32:17 <tonic98> >>> status
06:32:17 <tonic98> [2/3/21 10:31 PM] 2021-02-04 06:31:58.806 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.9-release)
06:32:18 <tonic98> Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081
06:32:18 <tonic98> [2/3/21 10:32 PM] 2021-02-04 06:32:00.479 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.9-release)
06:32:19 <tonic98> Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081
06:32:19 <tonic98> [2/3/21 10:32 PM] 2021-02-04 06:32:04.135 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.9-release)
06:32:20 <tonic98> Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081
06:33:15 <tonic98> im trying to connect to send coins and now I cant even access them
06:33:51 <tonic98> Im very frustrated, i should be able to just transfer but couldnt even when I was sync and connected
06:34:33 <tonic98> Ive downloaded it 3xs now and it seems to just have gotten worse
06:40:40 <Inge-> That error indicates that you *are* trying to connect to your local node. I'm afraid I don't have much experience with the Gui wallet. If you are in simple mode I would expect you should be able to still choose from a list of nodes, or enter the address of a node
06:40:51 <Inge-> If so, you could try for example node.supportxmr.com
06:42:03 <Inge-> Other fairly simple alternatives would be to restore your seed in Cake Wallet on iOS/Android or Monerujo on Androd. They rely on remote nodes so you do not need to download the entire blockchain - but scanning for your incoming and outgoing transactions still take a bit of time due to the privacy protections on the Monero blockchain
06:42:34 <tonic98> yeah since I downloaded the newer version I dont see where i can choose simple node or advanced anymore. those options are no longer there when im in my wallet
06:44:00 <Inge-> Perhaps easier to get those things answered in #monero-gui
06:44:30 <tonic98> im going to try cake wallet on my phone
06:44:32 <tonic98> thanks for the tip
06:46:05 <Inge-> I think it is quite common to use one of the mobile wallets on a phone, and I would not be surprised if most of the people in here use the command-line wallet on a computer
06:46:33 <tonic98> i just downloaded on my phone im going to try to access that way
08:17:00 <mycorrhizae[m]> Hey anyone have some good anonymous alternatives to localmonero for acquiring?
08:34:01 <Beags[m]> what're you looking for that local doesnt have, better rates?
09:04:40 <mycorrhizae[m]> Ya absolutely I pay anything between 10-30 premium on their
09:04:59 <mycorrhizae[m]> * Ya absolutely I pay anything between 10-30 premium on there
09:05:43 <Inge-> atomic swaps will be leet
10:01:18 <mechanic41turk[m> <Inge- "atomic swaps will be leet"> Is Cake wallet preparing for the atomic swaps by adding bitcoin to their software?
10:02:50 <charolastra> preparing for something that will come in ~2 years?
10:05:04 <Inge-> I think they see a market for eating into Bitcoin wallets too
10:05:27 <Inge-> and also make it easier for people who need a bitcoin wallet to have both in one app - as well as provide easier transition into XMR for those coming from the bitcoin side
10:05:39 <Inge-> but yeah, with Atomic swaps it will be even more interesting to have both
10:49:01 <mycorrhizae[m]> Is wxmr any good? The creator says they cover the underlying xmr but that sounds like it breaks a fundamental rule of crypto
10:49:49 <mycorrhizae[m]> Are wxmr holdings contractually available for exchange?
10:52:50 <raecarruth> wrapped xmr?
10:52:55 <raecarruth> i wouldn't touch it
10:53:00 <raecarruth> or anything eth related
11:13:37 <vekin> raecarruth: yeah... pay eth gas prices to facilitate the transfering of a proxy that isn't even really xmr
11:13:45 <vekin> i really really don't understand it
11:15:06 <mmxxx[m]> travala accepts xmr
11:19:46 <Inge-> mycorrhizae[m]: it is much like depositing your xmr onto an exchange.
11:20:51 <mycorrhizae[m]> Ya that's what it sounded like. I'll just watch it from a distance
11:21:35 <vekin> do people wrap xmr just to use the eth based defi?
11:31:18 <mycorrhizae[m]> I think they exchange xmr with the wxmr dev organization and they hold the xmr in trust
11:31:49 <mycorrhizae[m]> Supposedly you could redeem the wrapped xmr for xmr upon request
11:32:52 <mmxxx[m]> sounds like tether....
11:40:26 <mycorrhizae[m]> Mtgox
11:50:53 <mmxxx[m]> https://nitter.dark.fail/travalacom/status/1356956981399965702
12:27:43 <mechanic41turk[m> <charolastra "preparing for something that wil"> Q4 of this year is the barebones implementation of atomic swaps.
12:28:01 <charolastra> in BTC?
12:53:32 <gingeropolous> to change to advanced mode you have to goto the option to close the wallet
14:18:34 <sethsimmons> Can anyone using Tor/Tails/etc validate that these remote Tor nodes are working?
14:18:35 <sethsimmons> https://sethsimmons.me/about/#high-performance-monero-nodes
14:18:56 <sethsimmons> I don't have access to my normal comp so can't check right now but want to be sure they're not having issues I'm not seeing with monitoring etc.
14:49:04 <vdo[m]> sethsimmons:  I could curl those 3 using curl
14:49:29 <vdo[m]> s/curl/torsocks
14:53:25 <sethsimmons> Yeah, same here -- a user complained that wallet sync was broken, but it works properly over clearnet and the Tor services reply properly to curl so its probably PEBCAK.
14:55:47 <sethsimmons> Thanks for testing, vdo
14:57:27 <vdo[m]> np, thanks for hosting them o/
14:57:29 <Jaska_> Wallet sync is just extremely slow over tor
14:59:06 <vdo[m]> btw, do you know any active blockexplorer with tx push on onions ?
14:59:20 <vdo[m]> couldn't find any the other day
15:03:29 <sethsimmons> <Jaska_ "Wallet sync is just extremely sl"> Yeah, it's a lot of data to request over Tor. Would always recommend someone run their own node instead, but like to expose the option for those that need it.
15:03:37 <sethsimmons> <vdo[m] "btw, do you know any active bloc"> I do not, sorry :(
16:13:10 <tobtoht_> sethsimmons: check node status on http://xmrguide42y34onq.onion/remote_nodes
16:13:20 <tobtoht_> one of your nodes did go offline for a few hours
16:13:34 <tobtoht_> probably because monerod decided to temporarily ban traffic originating from the Tor daemon, check your logs
16:14:00 <tobtoht_> vdo[m]: http://theblock755bysooet2texualb4detjjcvkxs2nxuiumln4bacjh3rqd.onion/rawtx
16:14:15 <tobtoht_> also feather wallet has a tx pusher tool that can push to a selected node over Tor
16:14:16 <vdo[m]> thanks
16:35:53 <besamim5781[m]> Hello! What do you think about Cake Wallet?
16:36:26 <tobtoht_> it's good
19:07:38 <TulparCoin> Hi all
19:07:48 <TulparCoin> Türk var mı
19:12:15 <marmulak> evet
19:12:16 <marmulak> yok
20:52:13 <willcl_ark> I'm getting a runtime error syncing on Debian 10, can I pastebin a stack trace here? Looks like it might be something to do with Boost...
20:56:04 <fiono[m]> hello!
20:56:37 <fiono[m]> anyone there?
20:56:40 <donkeydonkey[m]> hi
20:56:56 <fiono[m]> i have a question about the monero protocol
20:57:11 <fiono[m]> what would be the best way to get an answer?
20:59:33 <marmulak> wait for it
21:02:04 <fiono[m]> ?
21:02:19 <dEBRUYNE> fiono[m]: Just state your question here and someone will answer it
21:02:25 <dEBRUYNE> willcl_ark: Yes, just paste it here
21:02:58 <willcl_ark> dEBRUYNE: looks like this: https://0bin.net/paste/cO1NS9XQ#4LhMLskd3HVhQMo+TGej1MN3Nb-9z5AXlJePZDIhAD8
21:03:11 <dEBRUYNE> ^ moneromooo
21:04:02 <fiono[m]> ok, the question is about the public keys used in the ring signature
21:04:29 <fiono[m]> the protocol uses offsets to identify those pks in the blockchain
21:04:38 <fiono[m]> to save space
21:04:38 <willcl_ark> using boost 1.74 on Debian 10
21:05:18 <fiono[m]> but how do you know which pk is in which position?
21:05:54 <fiono[m]> are they ordered by the blocks, and by the order they appear in the block?
21:23:14 <selsta> willcl_ark: what happens if you start again?
21:23:22 <selsta> does it exit again instantly?
21:23:24 <willcl_ark> selsta: same thing unfortunately
21:23:26 <willcl_ark> yep
21:23:36 <willcl_ark> tried "db recovery", but no help
21:23:57 <selsta> can you post log with --log-level 2?
21:28:29 <willcl_ark> sure
21:28:54 <willcl_ark> Just looked into re-making and I did see some errors I missed during first build: https://0bin.net/paste/79EP3r6K#EGIcgn5LuJCK3hbfUoHL3TXTzxkUjOS31XpvS+YdI9Y
21:29:00 <willcl_ark> not sure if those should be critial
21:30:09 <selsta> as long as it builds, no
21:35:52 <willcl_ark> selsta: I think it's working again. Sorry I might have messed up debugging as I upgraded some packages and re-installed a few others
21:36:19 <willcl_ark> I mean the log output is insane now, but seems no runtime errors now
21:36:21 <selsta> ok, the logs didn't have anything interesting
21:36:41 <willcl_ark> wait actually
21:36:45 <willcl_ark> there are now runtime errors
21:37:04 <willcl_ark> want to see this log, pretty verbose
21:37:29 <selsta> did you starr with log-level 2?
21:37:31 <selsta> start
21:37:49 <willcl_ark> yes
21:37:55 <willcl_ark> made a 30MB log in like, 1 minute
21:37:58 <selsta> ok then use 0 again
21:38:05 <selsta> 2 is only interesting if you have issues
21:38:36 <willcl_ark> I did have issues
21:38:51 <willcl_ark> wait to avoid spam, give me a minute
21:40:34 <willcl_ark> selsta: right. It has now advanced 500 blocks, so I think problem resolved (itself) :shrug:
21:41:11 <selsta> are you using systemd?
21:41:36 <willcl_ark> interesting you ask. I have been yes, for all failures. when you asked me to change log level i stopped using it and used CLI
21:41:48 <willcl_ark> this "working" is *not* using systemd now
21:41:58 <selsta> maybe systemd stopped the daemon for whatever reason?
21:42:10 <willcl_ark> interesting
21:46:46 <willcl_ark> yeah it's systemd knackering it somehow.  runtime errors right away if i start via systemd. No clues in journalctl...
21:46:57 <willcl_ark> running via CL again works fine
21:58:12 <willcl_ark> selsta: hmmm seems I was mistaken again (sorry!) I assume watching it run on the CL that it was fine,  as sync was progressing, but the runtime_error actually persists still in the logs. So it seems that it's both syncing ok, and experiencing runtime errors?
22:03:45 <moneromooo> fiono[m]: both
22:07:35 <moneromooo> willcl_ark: there seems to be nothing wrong in those logs. Try with --log-level 1, it should show why it's stopping. Without those logs, it looks like a normal/manual exit.
22:08:13 <willcl_ark> moneromooo: yeah it doesn't actually stop, which I kinda didn't notice. It's just continously logging runtime errors
22:08:23 <willcl_ark> while progressing with sync
22:08:34 <moneromooo> So... it's working ?
22:09:51 <willcl_ark> Correct. but it's working with continual runtime errors being stack traced in the logs (at all log-levels)
22:10:54 <willcl_ark> is that, normal? I didn't see any for the first 50% of the sync or so, but am now at 95% and it looks like each block synced triggers a stack trace
22:11:22 <hyc> prob randomx exception
22:11:22 <moneromooo> If it spams too much, you can run with --log-level 0,stacktrace:FATAL. Yes, it's normal.
22:11:35 <willcl_ark> oh,  ok
22:11:42 <moneromooo> You might have not had huge pages enabled or enough memory.
22:11:53 <moneromooo> THere's a patch somewhere on github that decreases the spam.
22:11:54 <hyc> been thinking I should rewrite librandomx in C and get rid of that exception crap
22:12:30 <willcl_ark> will it look like this for monero.conf? `log-level=0stacktrace:FATAL`
22:12:44 <moneromooo> No. You wnt a comma after 0.
22:12:50 <willcl_ark> thanks
22:13:41 <willcl_ark> ok. monerod still working and log now in an acceptable state. thanks all
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