00:18:49 pikachu[m]: do you have gdb installed ? 00:19:06 The "Failed to resolve" can be ignored. 00:19:17 wait how 00:19:46 oh 00:19:57 How depends on your OS. Like sudo apt-get install gdb for ubuntu. 00:20:13 moneromooo im using windows 00:20:26 Ah. Well, can't help then, sorry. 00:20:50 Maybe wait to see if someone knows how to get a stack trace for the crash on Windows. 00:21:41 when i start synchronizion from zero it works 00:28:48 Do you have enough disk space for the blockchain? Is it a hard drive or SAS? 00:28:56 SSD* 00:29:40 Can I somehow use multiple --rpc-restricted-bind-port ports like 18081 and 18089 combined, to get as many incoming RPC connections as possible? 00:29:47 sethsimmons external hdd 00:29:51 yes i have 00:31:07 That could be the issue. 00:31:15 No, once each only. 00:31:19 Sounds like you’re probably getting a corrupted database. 00:31:41 Increasing port count doesn’t help you get more RPC usage. 00:31:51 moneromooo which one i should use 18081 or 18089? 00:31:57 Just expose port of choice and use —public-node flag to advertise it. 00:33:00 It’s up to you, if advertising I like to use 18089 to differentiate 00:33:06 Either is fine though. 00:33:18 sethsimmons yes it's usb 3.0 and no i never unplugged it without stopping deamon 00:33:38 out of 66incoming peers i only got 2 RPC peers, is this normal? 00:34:00 Probably, RPC peers are very temporal by nature. 00:34:10 Might still be having issues. Is it old or new? 00:34:24 Not "out of" fwiw. RPC peers don't counted as part if incoming peers, those are P2P only. 00:34:28 I know some have run Monero on an external drive without issues but I’d never recommend it. 00:35:17 I guess i can count it as new. 00:35:32 Can i move blockchain data into internal disk? 00:36:04 with cut and paste 00:36:24 Yes, just make sure the daemon is stopped. 00:36:34 But if you’re having issues I’d just start from scratch on the internal. 00:36:45 But you can try copying it over. 00:36:45 already i can't start it lol 00:39:43 ohh i found the problem 00:40:07 * pikachu[m] uploaded an image: image.png (16KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/krekPqJOQgxcyyQGDvkoaCPX/image.png > 00:40:18 is that means corrupted? 00:43:04 It looks like your physical device is bad in a place where the monero db resides. 00:43:26 So close enough in practice, yes. 00:44:02 Or you don't have permissions, I suppose. 00:44:13 But it'd probably say so if it were. 00:44:51 i wish know that before 01:07:28 i wouldn't call them RPC peers. they're not peers. They're LEACHES! RAAAAAAAAAAAAH 01:07:56 oh good im in #monero. scared i was in dev or something for a minute 01:14:09 we are all nicholas van saberhagen 01:14:43 yo im new to matrix can i ask a Q. 01:14:58 when the channel says its "unencrypted", does that mean its not E2E, cause i assume everything would be over HTTPS 01:16:10 i dunno how matrix works, but everything is relayed to freenode IRC, and afaik its all in the clear 01:16:43 yea this probaly aint the best place to ask 01:24:59 Your link to freenode can be encrypted, but freenode gets to see the traffic, as everyone who joins the channel also does. 01:30:03 vpn+tor if you scared isp gonna get u 01:30:26 i dont think i will have to worry about that 01:34:07 Adamas using vpn and tor together is not good idea 01:39:26 pikachu[m], I have seen this debated would you be willing to share your view point? 01:39:36 and any reference materal 01:42:05 mnt_grrrl https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN 01:45:35 pikachu[m], thank you 01:49:13 Pikapuka! \o/ 02:06:51 * pikachu[m] uploaded an image: sticker4423251559501918327.gif (133KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zyyfmotQOVzyfgjDvdqjrCNs/sticker4423251559501918327.gif > 04:38:58 tell me why other than repeating what you heard, 04:39:54 * tell me why. 06:16:58 2021-01-09 06:14:07.892 F Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required) 06:17:26 what is the problem there? i cant start the local node all of a sudden 06:18:12 * zed19[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hozAchAGqQxIeNYvrFaymdLd/message.txt > 06:18:21 thats what i get wehn i start monerod 06:23:21 zed19[m]: a daemon is already running in the background most likely 06:23:40 try ./monerod exit 06:23:45 and then wait 10 seconds and try again 06:31:58 facts 06:32:35 ty 06:33:13 i had my gui wallet open on another workspace 06:33:38 silly me 08:25:44 i sent a link already, check it 08:56:28 Could any mod on reddit send me a pm? 09:26:56 Hi All 09:27:33 is this the right channel to ask support on monero? 09:33:21 vcotroni: yes 09:34:24 vcotroni: do you have a transaction id? 09:35:10 I had to move my XMR out of Bitrex because of the delisting, and I tried to move them into my ledger. transaction is successful .. yes 1 sec :) 09:35:24 ok, don’t have to share it 09:35:29 just make sure it shows up on xmrchain.net 09:35:54 can you go to Settings -> Info inside the GUI and share which wallet mode you are using 09:37:33 675734c97177a1ad03379a41f9a9e6909b7b2762769902eb98eddba6728a446a 09:38:23 Also which "Wallet restore height" do you have inside Settings -> Info? 09:40:44 Wallet restore height is: 20210101 (Change) 09:40:55 ok, that is the problem 09:41:14 click on change and enter 2021-01-01 09:41:26 make sure to add the -, else it gets interpreted as a number 09:41:40 so enter 2021-01-01 and not 20210101 09:47:16 changed it,.. but for some reason is not dispalyed,.. neither the name of the field("wallet restore height" nor the changed field :( 09:47:42 it mentioned something about the cache,.. do i need to do something else? 09:47:54 tried also to go out and enter again, but did not help 09:49:10 change it, then click ok twice 09:49:12 (sorry I meant loggin out of the wallet and reopen it) 09:49:28 afterwards tell me which number is inside wallet restore height field 09:49:43 also which "wallet mode" are you using? it also displayed on the Info page 09:52:09 wallet mode is Simple mode 09:54:11 selsta: unfortunately I get no number in "wallet restore height" 09:54:17 Ok, let’s try one more time: Click on "(Change)" next to wallet restore height field, enter the number 2265200, then click on okay twice. Then wait a couple minutes until the wallet refreshed. 09:56:41 selsta: FYI I only got one OK (not sure if that helps) 09:56:59 will wait and see.. 09:57:57 It should be one ok when entering the number and one ok when accepting the message with the wallet cache. 09:59:23 i think is doing something,.. the height was set to 2244148 and the bar with the blocks remaning is updating :) 09:59:46 ok let’s hope it is showing up now 10:07:47 selsta: YESSSSSS :) 10:07:54 Really many thanks!!!! 10:08:17 I don't know how could I have fixed that without you ! 10:08:51 nice :) the problem was with the restore height being in the future so it did not find your coins 10:09:01 .9 patch seems to be working well. nodes are up without issues. thank you. 10:12:16 selsta: many thanks again I wish you a nice weekend! 11:39:19 Hello, just wanted to ask a quick question: Can I point several solo-miners to one Node? I don't want to setup a pool. 11:40:16 yes but you probably would be better off putting xmrig-proxy in front of the node 11:40:37 just to make sure search space is divided evenly 11:42:37 ah, thank you very much hyc 13:48:07 Hey again, where can I find whitepaper or explanaition in detail about how how Proof-of-Work is working? Is it different than for Bitcoin? I guess so, so something Monero-specific will be great. 13:53:00 The PoW hash algorithm itself is (very) different, but the overall system is the same. 13:53:34 You hash repeatedly till the result gets you a hash below a target which is based on the timings of the blocks that came before it. 13:54:11 If you're asking about the hash itself, see https://github.com/tevador/RandomX 14:01:29 Thanks, I'm more interested in the components involved/architecture. Not that much into the mathematical details. For example, what are the relationships between miners, nodes, pools, etc? What are the boundries separating them apart, how are they communicating, etc. In simple words, I want to understand what is xmrig-proxy actually doing? What is its interaction with nodes? What consitutes the P2P 14:01:31 functionality, and what the RPC part, so I can exaplin what is RPC-Pay. This kind of information. I guess it won't be on one place, but where to start? :) 14:05:13 Search for these things on monero.stackexchange.com, bound to get you interesting things. 16:02:59 anyone here familiar with the monero-python library? 16:08:07 https://cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-and-texas-firm-win-million-dollar-irs-contract-to-crack-monero this is probably old news but are they for real? 16:24:30 anchor[m]: super serious 16:24:36 $1m is nothing for the irs 16:24:43 considering its not their money 16:27:33 not that part, but is it 'cracked'? 16:27:50 oh 16:28:00 shitty clickbait as usual 16:28:35 well if they won the bounty 16:29:59 maybe theyll just pretend to work on the 'problem' 16:30:07 and tell the irs it cant be done 16:30:25 it's probably some sort of correlation attack 16:30:43 I've read an interview with one of Chainalysis' devs and it sounds like it's that 16:30:58 their way to crack monero is by targeting other weaknesses in the user's opsec 16:31:14 so the usual way then 16:31:31 seems like it, I just wanted to confirm 16:32:12 hit the user with a wrench until they tell you their passwords 16:33:33 anchor[m]: it's only a grant 16:33:35 So they basically get money to work on trying to crack it 16:33:56 for trying to? 16:34:25 anchor[m]: yep 16:34:45 so maybe they'll 'try' to crack monero by eating some cake 16:34:50 hrm.. 16:34:51 or watching tv 16:35:01 then check if that cracked monero 16:35:13 didnt work? maybe drinking a beer will crack monero! 16:35:21 hmmmm maybe 12 beers 16:35:42 so it really is just fear mongering 16:35:49 I shouldn't even be surprised 16:36:44 anchor[m]: the people running the company probably spent the grant money on company expenses 16:36:55 eg all our employees need a company car 16:37:01 when the irs is giving out grants to crack your technology consider it a vindication 16:37:05 and lunch paid for 16:37:27 oops not much left in the budget to crack monero 16:42:53 ./join #marxism 17:15:50 would anybody mind sending some testnet coins? 9sNdanEUsbgBGhUWgAjUdKaANxqDMNa67HMNP9rEijd2RwkcsnKqjprcW5aPqkwRPLRnsT5UKezzEAfoWuHCnu8d3u6zB9D 17:21:51 there's a faucet on xmr.to community section 17:22:47 bevanoff: https://community.xmr.to/faucet/testnet/ 17:32:20 Could some of the Monero gurus please take a look at the monerod config by Seth S at https://sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-node/ and let me know if any other settings should be used for a public node? (note: only the monerod.conf I'll take care of all the other settings, sysctl, systemd, firewall iptables+ipsets etc) 17:36:08 I think that the ideal way to improve Monero network resilience against future attacks would be to auto-deploy hardened nodes on dedicated servers (bare metal) and increase the number of public rpc using reverse proxies. 17:37:15 I don't think that running a local monerod will be a viable alternative for 90% of the non-expert users. 17:38:41 netrik182[m]: oh dope thanks :) 17:39:15 i'm glad i have unlimited internet now that i'm running a node 17:39:56 the node has already uploaded 297.81 GB in five days 17:44:17 i'm trying to run the miner on an 8GB Rpi 4B. with some advice from moneromooo, i compiled my own kernel with hugepages enabled. however, it's still saying `Couldn't allocate RandomX dataset for miner`. anyone have any other ideas on what's going on or how to diagnose it? 17:48:03 r3dh3ad[m]: not sure, but i think in addition to enabling huge page support at kernel compile time, you also need to enable a given number of them with `sysctl` 17:48:34 r3dh3ad[m] afaik mining XMR is only worth it on newer AMD Ryzen CPUs, even if you have free electricity. 17:49:16 But running a node on RasPi 4 should be OK 17:49:31 e.g.: `sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1536` 17:49:39 monerouser1144: yeah i know. i'm mostly doing it for the lulz. i don't actually expect to get much out of it. i'm already running a full node. might as well put that pi to work. :) 17:50:00 or `echo vm.nr_hugepages >> /etc/sysctl.conf && sysctl --system` to make it persistent 17:50:08 err 17:50:10 ignore that 17:50:23 i meant `echo vm.nr_hugepages=1536 >> /etc/sysctl.conf && sysctl --system` to make it persistent 17:50:57 I was running an i7 24/7 for ~3 months and couldn't even reach the minimum payout. 17:51:17 you don't need to worry about minimum payouts if you solo mine :) 17:51:52 ndorf: 17:52:02 deep. 17:52:03 * ndorf: is there a specific number that should be used there? 17:52:08 LOL, only if you skipped probabilities lesson at school ;-) 17:54:28 r3dh3ad[m]: the number i gave equals 3GB (1536 * 2MB), which should be more than enough for randomx. the minimum needed is something like 2.3GB, i forget exactly 18:37:44 Yesterday I also downloaded the blockchain.raw file from the official monero site. Does this already contain the same synced data? 18:37:55 so still having and issue after raising hugepages 18:38:06 ``` 18:38:28 Does the blockchain.raw file contain the same synced data as monerod? 18:38:29 * r3dh3ad[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VtNzwmrurLablPjiPbMJauaG/message.txt > 18:39:17 It contains *part* of the data monerod needs. 18:39:55 How do I update the blockchain.raw file so it is current? 18:40:37 I want to deepen my knowledge of cryptography. In the last few years I self taught myself calculus/linear algebra/physics and python/bash/vba. Any recommendations on where to start? 18:40:46 You sync monerod, then run monero-blockchain-export. If your intent is to then import it, it makes it moot. 18:43:07 So I understand correctly. After monerod is done syncing successfully I run monero-blockchain-export will give me the same blockchain.raw file with all data insync? 18:44:11 A larger file, containing the same data in the first part, and more data at the end. 18:49:00 what file will result from the command monero-blockchain-export? 18:49:12 A larger file, containing the same data in the first part, and more data at the end. 18:49:39 But you probably don't want to use that. Most people don't need it. 18:50:02 Letting monerod sync normally is probably what you want. 18:50:29 Will it be a new blockchain.raw file that has been updated with more data at the end, as you say? 18:52:47 I was thinking about having all of my Monero transactions complete via a node saved on a physical thumb stick I plug into my smartphone when out and about. For more security and anonymity I did not want to use a remote node. 18:55:04 how come people want to run nodes on their phones instead of on a server (or dedicated device) at home? 18:55:40 is communication over the internet between a wallet and a node secure (without ssh)? 18:56:32 Without ssh, no. With ssh, probably (just set your server and clients to whitelist key fingerprints). 18:56:43 s/ssh/ssl/g 18:57:25 has there been any thought to building in the security, just because it will mean more user-friendliness, even if the devels otherwise consider it out of scope 18:58:06 No, we never thought about security. I don't even what the word means come to think of it. 18:58:24 hehe. i mean are there plans to make ssh unnecessary? 18:59:28 ssh is not necessary, so you're confusing me. 18:59:48 it's necessary to keep node/wallet communication secure 18:59:56 over the public internet 19:00:00 Do you mean ssh or ssl ? 19:00:18 oh so there is tls security now? 19:00:21 i didn't know 19:00:28 h2017, to answer your first question, completing transactions through a node saved on a thumbstick eliminates MITM attacks and discoverability of transactions between parties. 19:00:34 The wallet can use SSL to connect to the daemon. 19:00:53 ok that's all i need to know. thanks. so there is built in security for those who set it up 19:02:52 fwiw postgrest doesn't have built in security. they just expect you to proxy it behind a more fully-fledged webserver 19:03:11 it wouldn't be the first time that the devels wouldn't implement something 19:04:59 ok so if you you are prepated to set up ssl, why would you worry about MITM attacks in that case? 19:06:21 prepated? 19:07:17 prepared 19:10:43 Having a monero node saved on a thumbstick removes the possibility of that node being discovered by anyone (thanks to the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act and Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency hosting companies can be pressured to disclose data on their customers). 19:19:40 heh. gonna be interesting when the gauntlet comes down and you have to prove where your monero came from to interact with conventional banking and well... you can mine monero from thin air. 19:26:18 you think they will start building up files on people just because it can be proven they they run a node? 19:26:36 they = governments/LE/NSA 19:26:54 People who can be proven to run a node are a subset of people, so yes. 19:27:46 Why do all these "blockchain giants" use a centralized heavily moderated server like Twitter exactly? 19:27:55 I'm fairly certain the NSA at least has a db with data about everyone they can get info on. Maybe not US persons but that's not a bet I'd make. 19:28:21 They have the means and the motive. 19:28:26 Definitely US 19:28:45 Now, how much and what data, I have no idea :) 19:30:25 They know how many times a day, what time of day is typical, and what likely consistency your bowel movements are in the US if you have anything to do with blockchain unless you used tremendous care. 20:27:29 Community Crowdfunding System (CCS): Current Translation Work: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ktynjd/community_crowdfunding_system_ccs_current/ 20:27:43 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 20:29:43 lol 20:48:08 did my monerod just suffer a stroke ? 2021-01-09 19:13:50.116 I [95.217.11.62:38274 INC] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2270929 -> 2270929 [Your node is 0 blocks (0 seconds) behind] 20:48:31 2021-01-09 19:13:50.117 I SYNCHRONIZATION started 21:00:44 asdfdsaf: which version are you using? 21:03:57 0.17.1.9 21:12:13 What does status indicate? 21:14:32 i had like 80incoming peers, then it probably reset because i only had 20, I didn't check instantly after the stroke so that's why it had 20already 21:15:39 As long as it runs properly I'd ignore it 22:35:17 Any plans for XMR to allow transactions to not be recorded on the blockchain? To not have a immutable permanent recording of transactions? 22:40:38 What's the best way to confirm remotely that everything is happy with your monerod node and that it is showing up here? https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html 22:41:24 If it's keeping adding blocks at an average of 2 minutes per block, it's most likely fine. 22:41:46 "status" will show if it's got any incoming and outgoing peers. No peers == bad. 22:42:16 bc_dyn_stats 100 shows you the average time for the last 100 blocks. Should be close enough to 120 seconds. 22:47:07 On some servers, with version .8, I was getting some "There were 24 blocks in the last 20 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck." 22:47:07 I've updated everyone to latest .9, I'll see if that goes away. It didn't affect all nodes. They seemed to be going ok otherwise. 22:47:18 thx moneromooo btw 22:47:37 moneromooo: 103 average secs for last 100 blocks.. still good? 22:47:43 24 in 20 minutes is a lot. 22:47:48 103's fine yes. 22:48:07 thnx 23:28:06 Where is a good place to get the expected hash of the docker built monero-wallet-gui on linux? I just built 0.17.1.9 Oxygen Orion and sha256 is 21342c28e6725f3f0e7e1044f1219382c889cc7e121d5bb5bd3c9fcc1f427612 23:29:43 window 12 23:29:44 not sure marx did the right thing 23:30:18 pretty sure he didn't 23:30:43 twr just wrote the same question in #monero and #monero-dev with a 6 minute interval 23:31:13 I've seen this happening other times lately.. 23:55:14 (i already undid the marx thing) 23:55:34 he's down for maintenance