01:06:34 <andrewjackson> Is having zero incoming connections in Monerod normal when using a vpn?
01:39:19 <ndorf> andrewjackson1: yes. you share an IP address with lots (hopefully) of other people, and there is no way to accept an inbound connection
01:39:50 <ndorf> andrewjackson1: some VPN providers do offer a single random inbound port, though. you'll have to check your provider. if they do, you could probably use that as an inbound monero port
01:42:15 <andrewjackson1> Ok thanks, no problem then :)
02:30:49 <zed19[m]> lol
02:46:51 <Lyza> selsta nah we're still good. been restarting the node once a day to apply the ban list because of the ban freezing issue, could conceivably be preventing the issue from cropping up. or it's rare, or the ban list is taking care of it. idk
02:47:43 <aum_> can anyone recommend a good multi-currency wallet that can run on Linux?
02:48:11 <aum_> ie, a software app that can implement wallets for each of numerous currencies such as XMR, BTC, ETH etc?
02:48:27 <sethsimmons> Exodus if it runs on Linux
02:48:31 <sethsimmons> Not sure past that
02:48:41 <aum_> ok, sethsimmons, thanks, will check
03:21:50 <monerofanboy> "Is having zero incoming connections in Monerod normal when using a vpn?" depending upon your use case, you may want to consider a vpn with a static ip. Once again, it all depends upon your use case.
03:23:54 <monerofanboy> Most vpns with a static IPs keep all of their ports opens (they may filter port 25 to limit spammers) Once again, it all depends upon your use case. If privacy is paramount, don't use a vpn with a static ip.
03:27:30 <Beags[m]> is xmr.to still safe to use?
03:31:34 <nioc> yes, they do restrict certain jurisdictions
04:04:31 <vekin> 2021-01-07 01:27:01.887 E Unable to send transaction(s) via Dandelion++ stem
04:04:38 <vekin> never seen that error before D:
04:04:41 <bigslim[m]> This guy https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1346811958121668614?s=21
04:06:10 <bigslim[m]> Americanpegasus left..... 😏
04:07:39 <selsta> vekin: you can ignore this error as long as you don’t have any problems
04:07:56 <selsta> it shows up from time to time since we introduced Dandelion++
04:08:20 <vekin> ok thanks
04:20:45 <orly_owl> bigslim[m]: americanpegasus is still here
04:20:54 <americanpegasus> Oh I logged onto the monero-space channel and had this tab open
04:21:06 <americanpegasus> I'm here, just idle a lot.  Leave the window open on my compy sometimes.
04:21:38 <americanpegasus> Wild day huh.  Shows how much one can trust the stability of their government.  Imaginary silliness, all of it.
04:22:46 <orly_owl> what happened today? >_>
04:23:17 <americanpegasus> Eh, I don't want to flood the channel with off topic chatter, but just referring to the incident at the US Capitol
04:23:23 <orly_owl> ok
04:24:09 <americanpegasus> Basically when I used to talk to people about bitcoin in 2014 and say that it was stronger than government backed currency, I'd be laughed at for insinuating that there was anything weak about the stability of the US Government.
04:24:40 <americanpegasus> If Trump did anything good, he at least showed the complacent Americans that they aren't safe hiding behind their fiat.
04:24:45 <orly_owl> america got trump'd
04:25:56 <americanpegasus> So what's the best irc channel for off topic chatter with other Monero peeps?
04:26:13 <orly_owl> #monero-offtopic
04:57:07 <bigslim[m]> <americanpegasus "If Trump did anything good, he a"> Any treasury chief can print trillions and buy equities to boost the stock market and make the $ appear strong to uneducated persons
04:57:22 <bigslim[m]> Orangeman has many tricks up his sleeves
04:58:46 <bigslim[m]> Smart money still buying stocks though. Good to see it’s also in crypto now. Sad to see 80% of crypto owned by institutions though.
05:06:55 <fibonacci> Where did you get the 80% figure? I assumed so but is that confirmed?
05:11:03 <zed19[m]> Mining at 540 H/s with 1 threads
05:11:14 <zed19[m]> why though?
05:12:13 <zed19[m]> i configured 4 threads and i see some action on my 4 cores
05:12:52 <zed19[m]> i5-4460 4cores 4threads
05:13:50 <xmready> what software?
05:14:00 <xmready> .btc
05:14:12 <zed19[m]> monerod
05:14:30 <zed19[m]> the standard thing
05:14:43 <xmready> ah. no idea i use xmrig
05:15:31 <zed19[m]> all righty then
05:24:19 <bigslim[m]> <fibonacci "Where did you get the 80% figure"> The amount of institutional confirmed buying vs total market cap
05:41:32 <fibonacci> bigslim[m]: yea that's a major issue...
05:41:43 <fibonacci> Sad
05:41:59 <fibonacci> Even infuriating
05:43:14 <nioc> billionaires like number goes up
05:45:18 <orly_owl> makes them hard
06:53:48 <ruderod> question
06:54:08 <ruderod> git clone --recursive https://github.com/monero-project/monero.git
06:54:19 <xmready> bigslim[m]: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the price that institutions bought in at is much higher than people who bought earlier, so comparing confirmed buys to total market cap isn't a representation of what % of bitcoins they own.
06:55:13 <xmready> I could be wrong I'm not good with maths
06:55:32 <ruderod> does anyone know git?  I can not get the git command to run under the mingw
09:30:58 <urza> Hello, can you please help me with monerod arguments? I would like to run my monero node on nonstandard port that is not advertised to the network, so only people who know the port can connect to me (out conections as normal, in connections only for people who know the port).
09:32:09 <urza> argument --hide-my-port should do the "not advertising my port" part, but I am a little confused how to set the actuall port..
09:32:34 <urza> should I use --p2p-bind-port or --p2p-bind-external-port
09:32:35 <urza> ?
09:52:03 <urza> Also, when I try to connecto to my friend with --add-peer IP:port and then query the connections by "sync_info" command, I don't see that connection, any ideas how to make sure that one of my outgoing connections is to my added peer?
09:53:13 <urza> I am asing all this, because when I open the port publicly my node crashes after a while, when I am behind closed port (only outgoing connectins) it doesnt crash.. I suppose it is still the attacker doing something..
10:00:16 <PapaMarxFTW> How is waiting for an autistic guy to get bored working out for you? While you settle in to your new way of life, think positively,you don't need to chase after signs of FUK activity anymore.
10:00:16 <PapaMarxFTW> jess: Get back to work immediately. This should have been a challenge ^^
13:10:01 <Lyza> urza --p2p-bind-external-port is not a valid command
13:10:33 <Lyza> "<urza> Also, when I try to connecto to my friend" --- use --add-priority-node if you want to maintain a constant connection with your friend's node
13:11:31 <Lyza> also the attacks you are referring to come from tor. should be fixerd in the next version I think but you can also choose to utilize the block list or create your own block list of tor exit nodes
13:11:46 <Lyza> https://gui.xmr.pm/files/block_tor_new.txt
13:45:23 <bigslim[m]> smooth: please pm me when you can
14:39:59 <dortone> hello
14:40:27 <dortone> do anyone knows how to generate by script monero address
14:40:33 <dortone> like 20-30
14:40:36 <dortone> at once
14:41:14 <dortone> i need to make a payment to multiple people
14:43:03 <moneromooo> Then ask them for their addresses. If you create them, you have the secret keys, not any good.
14:43:31 <dortone> i need to test before
14:43:44 <dortone> monero has not good way of multiple sending
14:44:05 <dortone> like transfer address1 amount1 address2 amount2
14:44:10 <edi_> monero-wallet-cli .. ?
14:44:26 <moneromooo> What is not good about it ?
14:44:48 <moneromooo> But you can run "address new", it'll give you new addresses for your current wallet so you can try with.
14:44:50 <dortone> maybe 30 address are too much and script will blow
14:46:10 <edi_> why would it?
14:46:49 <dortone> i dont know just im not sure
14:47:03 <dortone> address new is good but how to do it by script
14:47:22 <edi_> https://monerodocs.org/interacting/monero-wallet-cli-reference/#manage-accounts
14:47:32 <dortone> for i in do ./wallet-cli address new
14:47:41 <edi_> i'd try a while loop
14:48:17 <edi_> as long as x is smaller than 30 do "address new"
14:48:56 <edi_> https://linuxize.com/post/bash-while-loop/
14:49:02 <edi_> have fun
14:49:03 <edi_> :)
14:49:05 <dortone> will this address go in conf file?
14:49:40 <dortone> how to extract by script again
14:50:02 <edi_> you know about programming in bash?
14:50:14 <dortone> yes but no so much
14:50:45 <edi_> if you're serious about it, i'd recommend https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Redirections.html
14:50:53 <dortone> what is the limit of transfer command ?
14:51:15 <dortone> i mean 30 transfers is no problem?
14:51:24 <edi_> sounds like a rather small amount
14:51:40 <edi_> i'd be expecting trouble going for x100 or smth
14:51:58 <dortone> this 30 transfers will need how much blocks to unlock
14:52:22 <dortone> another monero issue...
14:53:14 <moneromooo> Blocks are at last 300000 bytes. A typical tx is ~2.5 kB. Max effective tx size is about 150 kB. 30 txes get you... 75 kB. Shold be dine.
14:53:27 <moneromooo> 10 blocks to unlock.
14:54:06 <edi_> ehehe
14:54:15 <edi_> big issue lol
14:54:30 <dortone> because of dandelion(transfer is coming from one source) maybe more?
14:54:31 <edi_> whats the blocktime?
14:54:58 <moneromooo> 2 minutes.
14:57:11 <orly_owl> 2fast2monero
14:58:35 <dortone> lets say that i have all address in one file.how to transfer not interactive
14:58:51 <orly_owl> interactive?
14:59:15 <dortone> by not inserting input
14:59:18 <dortone> script
14:59:25 <orly_owl> ah
14:59:43 <dortone> wallet-cli transfer address1 amount1 address2 amount2
15:00:51 <moneromooo> I'd use monero-wallet-rpc. I'm not sure monero-wallet-cli would not prompt here.
15:01:45 <dortone> ok with rpc?
15:11:25 <urza> @Lyza --p2p-external-bind is. And I am using tor blocklist and still my node gets crashed.
15:13:52 <dortone> any ready script for transfering with rpc wallet?
15:21:24 <urza> About my port question.. still would appreciate an answer from someone who knows how it works :)
15:24:07 <Jaska_> Does your node actually ban those nodes from the list?
15:24:19 <urza> btw when I do "sync_info" in my node, I see that more than half my connections are stuck at block 2263960 (current now is 2269371)
15:25:10 <urza> are these malicious nodes? its more then 5000 blocks behind.. and they are all at the same block..
15:25:11 <Jaska_> do "bans" does it show banned ip's?
15:25:50 <urza> @Jaska cha.. it doesn't.. some error on my part
15:26:10 <Jaska_> yup
15:28:13 <urza> ok, that removed most of my peers :)
15:28:31 <urza> all remaining are on correct height
15:36:33 <Adamas[m]> are onion nodes banned by default now?
15:36:55 <moneromooo> No.
15:42:20 <Jaska_> exit nodes only I think?
15:55:21 <sethsimmons> None are banned by default
15:55:35 <sethsimmons> You can optionally use a banlist or a DNS banlist
15:58:21 <ndorf> what's the current recommendation regarding those block lists? i'm running with block_tor_new.txt only (no DNS either), and still got hit with some OOM attack
15:59:55 <moneromooo> Oh that's still going on ? Do you have recent patches ?
16:00:58 <moneromooo> My node's been behaving nicely for a week or so, so any patch from back then should be enough.
16:01:11 <ndorf> nope, v0.17.1.8-release -- you're saying there are relevant fixes in the release branch?
16:01:25 <ndorf> this node has 4GB RAM, so perhaps it is more susceptible
16:01:33 <ndorf> i have another node with 256GB RAM, that one is completely unaffected :D
16:01:37 <moneromooo> Mine also does.
16:18:03 <monerofanboy> 256 gb ram? here i thought 128 gb was legit. I am suddenly feeling "server inadequate"
16:18:55 <monerofanboy> I have not seen any issues on the server with 128gb of ram. I have seen some strange hanging on a few of the VPS servers I have with 8gb of ram.
16:20:15 <donkeydonkey[m]> i have 32GB on mine and it will almost max it out sometimes and then settle down and keep going
16:22:02 <Inge-> my node uses 1.36GB - uptime 3 weeks
16:22:33 <monerofanboy> My workaround has been to script updating the ban list and restarting the deamon on the VPS servers using a crontab. It's work so far. The server with 128 gb ram keeps working though without issue, with the combination of blocklist_tor and the dns blocklist.
16:22:46 <monerofanboy> worked*
17:09:25 <supus> How accurate is the monero network in time keeping in the long run? I.e. if I were to say that some event is scheduled for every 60/2*24*7 blocks, how likely is it that this event would keep occuring on the same weekday?
17:11:05 <hyc> not likely at all
17:11:34 <hyc> block emission is all random
17:12:35 <supus> okay, thanks
17:21:29 <SlyFerret> I need to build a storefront for my wife's business.  Coinpayments looks like the only supported Shopify integration for crypto that includes XMR.  Is this a good combination?
17:22:06 <SlyFerret> I'm new to the small business ecommerce space, and Shopify is the one I keep hearing about, so that is the first one I looked at.
17:24:06 <hyc> if you're selling individual items shopify seems well suited to that
17:24:29 <hyc> not a good fit for collections of items
17:27:35 <SlyFerret> It would be books, artwork prints, and other merchandise.
17:32:26 <hyc> sounds like it'll work
17:34:18 <supus> with shopify your shop will be tied to them. If you want more freedom and control at the expense of more work and a steeper learning curve you could also use WooCommerce with the Monero WooCommerce Extension
17:35:52 <supus> There you will receive monero payments directly to your wallet. Noone inbetween but also no fiat conversion
17:44:38 <hyc> on that note, Shopify just shut down Trump's online store
17:44:58 <hyc> but if you steer clear of politically affiliated merchandise you should be safe
17:45:30 <hyc> https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1347214216667815936
21:03:41 <viperperidot[m]> Any new node updates coming out or is the network under control again with latest release?
21:07:08 <dEBRUYNE> viperperidot[m]: There should be a new release soonish
21:08:20 <viperperidot[m]> Ok nice
21:08:28 <viperperidot[m]> I am going to listen to the frontlines podcast to get caught up
21:31:53 <Criispin> is there a new checkpoint at 2265000?
23:31:58 <btceuser838192> FUK has been intensely hostile to Monero for over 4 years. Making miners for Monero, making a pool for Monero, making code that Monero copied, not using bugs to steal millions from exchanges. Wow. Such great hostility.