00:13:11 Added a section explicitly for that: https://sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-node/#sending-commands-to-your-node 00:13:30 Hopefully helps others learn how to interact with their node 🙂 Thanks for the catch, mnt_grrrl 00:16:42 do i need the latest gpu driver to mine monero efficiently? or is it okay to mine it with a foss driver? 00:17:17 which is bad 00:17:29 your welcome. Also it might make sense to say restrict rpc mode no rpc mode under the config files I had to do a diff to understnad what you where saying 00:22:04 zed19[m]: mining with a gpu is very inefficient 00:22:22 do so only if you have free elec 00:23:34 as for drivers, no idea 00:42:10 all right then i think i5 quad core is enough? 00:43:30 mining on a CPU is limited by the amount of L3 cache, needs 2MB per thread and AKAIK the i5 has 6MB 00:44:10 to some extent the speed depends on the generation of the i5 and the ram 00:44:47 ok ill just try 00:45:18 if using windows which I don't think you are. some of that cache is not available so that 3rd thread is only partial 00:45:40 maybe 2k H/s 00:47:05 zed19[m]: if you use the xmrig wizard it will set the appropriate number of threads automatically as well as other parameters 00:51:24 wownero only needs 1 MB per thread so it's often better for cache limited CPUs, and if you mine on MoneroOcean you can have it exchanged to XMR automatically 00:51:27 no windows indeed 00:51:28 ty 00:51:32 Mind sharing exactly what is confusing? I’m not sure what is meant by this. 01:00:39 https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=502019187&srcid=share 01:01:45 sethsimmons, it should be something like restricted rpc and non rpc 01:02:00 I was not sure which was more restrictive 01:17:03 so is port 18081 used for anything? 01:19:46 It’s bound by default as unrestricted RPC on local host only. 01:21:24 The only thing explicitly exposed in configs is the restricted RPC 01:22:19 right so maybe it should be rpc bound to local host and rpc restricted for clariry 01:24:30 RPC is the interface itself 01:24:42 There are two modes to expose, restricted and normal 01:25:04 Are you saying it would be clearer if we also explicitly configure the unrestricted RPC in the config files? 01:39:05 whats the best way to keep track of the progress on atomic swaps? github? 01:43:52 Beags[m]: there is also #monero-swap which is usually active for the weekly Wed meeting I believe 01:47:20 sethsimmons, if you had a config file that was called unresticted rpc that would help 01:52:36 It’s always exposing restricted RPC 01:52:54 Or else you couldn’t use the node for your own wallet remotely 01:53:09 All config files expose it, the public ones just advertise it as well 🙂 01:53:43 You don’t ever want to expose the unrestricted RPC to the internet. 02:04:28 sethsimmons: honest question , you say you never want to export unrestricted rpc 18081 02:04:42 in my logs monerod suggest: --public-node is enabled, but RPC server 127.0.0.1:18081 may be unreachable from outside, please check RPC server bind address 02:05:23 so if one inteds to run a public node, the situation is different? 02:10:07 If you want to be able to connect a wallet externally you need to expose restricted RPC, as all config files do in my guide 02:10:35 If you want to advertise that exposed restricted RPC port to other for their use, you use the public-node arg that I set in two of the config files 02:11:49 I chose port 18089 for restricted RPC, the default for RPC is 18081 02:12:03 Is this after using my guide? 02:34:36 sethsimmons: nope, didn't know about your guide specifically 02:35:22 thanks for your feedback tho 02:36:52 Ah sorry thought you were mnt_grrrl, I got confused who I was talking to 🙂 02:37:19 If you’re interested: https://sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-node/ 02:46:43 anyone know why fibonacci keeps posting random stuff from jw? 02:54:43 it's who he is, he is not a bad sort at all 02:54:59 I never click the links 03:19:39 Is it normal to get a good amount of stack trace output in the daemon? 03:26:02 * zed19[m] uploaded a video: vlc-record-2021-01-05-04h25m23s-Gray State - The Rise - Rough Cut Directed by David Crowley.mp4-.mpg (5506KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NfqqjuSSmjijcTHXbZYTqYMg/vlc-record-2021-01-05-04h25m23s-Gray State - The Rise - Rough Cut Directed by David Crowley.mp4-.mpg > 03:26:49 * zed19[m] uploaded a video: vlc-record-2Gray State - The Rise - Rough Cut Directed by David Crowley.mp4-.mpg (5506KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NnxBoUabvecUMEisjKuKnqzS/vlc-record-2Gray State - The Rise - Rough Cut Directed by David Crowley.mp4-.mpg > 03:41:31 ah a fellow intellectual 03:46:32 see a lot of those fluoridated sheeple lately. i think the dosis was increased 03:46:43 seen* 03:47:32 im just waiting for when industrial society decides officially that we need psychiatric drugs put in the water to produce a calming effect across the populace :) 03:48:27 This is the industrial society and its future we are living in a brave new 1984 world already ted 03:49:00 laughs in mail b0//\B 03:51:40 * fluoridatedsheep uploaded an audio file: MAN CD 1 TRACK 1 (320).mp3 (4669KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wmRxBIcWLllVERWMHZWKAPDt/MAN CD 1 TRACK 1 (320).mp3 > 03:53:20 this is simultaneously awful and pretty good 03:53:44 it really do say a lot about society and its future 03:54:12 I want a Chinese mail order bride what's the best way to get one 03:55:05 lmao, that's a better question for the litecoin chat. We only talk about illegal markets here 03:57:01 Is there an open source monero light wallet for android? 03:57:34 i feel like there definitely is, but unless you're toting graphene, id advise against mobile 03:58:49 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmk2BGJPvE&t=1 03:58:49 Look at his mail order bride she even had a kid with him and he left her 04:00:05 tonyvoid[m]: ssh from android into your box and use the cli wallet :P 04:00:57 probably not safe to run wallet on a server with ssh but its safer than using an android wallet imo 04:01:07 tonyvoid[m]: Monerujo or Cake 04:01:57 is cakewallet a reference to let them eat cake? 04:02:55 no other prior wallets for btc were called bread and some other baked good that I do not recall at the moment 04:03:54 no, 04:04:01 somewhere a grammar dies 04:05:24 I hear that they are both good 04:06:01 I don't use my phone for financial stuff so....... 04:06:49 How many subaddresses to 1 wallet can you create 04:06:58 I've never tried using that feature 04:08:14 more than you will ever need 04:08:46 they are created in bunches deterministically as you need them 04:08:51 Okay so you can do over 100k? 04:08:57 maybe 200 at a time 04:09:03 as a default 04:09:19 Monero truly is the best crypto the illuminati bankers for sure are scared of its existence 04:09:30 I believe over 100k 04:09:49 probably millions 04:09:56 The developers migjt need to hide in Russia I'm the future 04:10:15 but I forget the details as it was never something I would ever need 04:10:28 Does sarang or fluffypony ever come in here 04:11:11 >the illuminati bankers for sure are scared of its existence 04:11:11 i know you're probably being sarcastic, but for some reason i've heard many people rant about conspiracy theories today so i have to ask 04:12:10 sarang is usually not in this channel and pony is everywhere 04:13:13 Modern banking was established by the knights Templar and carried out by William the orange through the house of england and carried into the united states through the federal reserve which is owned by the Rothschild's Rockefeller's Morgan's and warburgs and they all have rh- blood because they are affiliated with the priory de sion which is an organization that the knights templar guard 04:13:13 definition of a conspiracy........anything I do not directly control 04:13:54 Monero will put an end to it if the world adopts it 04:14:18 but wouldn't "they" adopt monero 04:14:42 they are currently adopting btc 04:14:52 You are right they'd find a way to take it over 04:15:19 Yes they are going to do a massive takeover with btc as the NSA is much more advanced with tracking it now with chain analysis and whatever else they use 04:15:57 There will be a lot of btc seizures for tax evasion and money laundering and conspiracy 04:16:32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking 04:16:50 > The history of banking began with the first prototype banks which were the merchants of the world, who gave grain loans to farmers and traders who carried goods between cities. This was around 2000 BC in Assyria, India and Sumeria. Later, in ancient Greece and during the Roman Empire, lenders based in temples gave loans, while accepting deposits and performing the change of money. Archaeology from this period in ancient 04:16:50 China and India also shows evidence of money lending. 04:18:22 i have rh+ so im the chosen to fight them to death 04:20:23 The same kinds and queens of Egypt sumeria Babylon Greece and Rome are the same kings and queens today. George bush and queen Elizabeth are closely related and both are direct descendants of Charlemagne 04:20:50 So are over half the us presidents and they're all freemasons 04:21:00 Ordo an chao is their oath they live by 04:21:10 Ordo ab chao 04:21:24 i genuinely can't tell if this dude is being sarcastic 04:21:35 Dude freemasons is just a boys club 04:21:46 pretty sure he isn't being sarcastic :P 04:21:48 ist actually from the greek cosmology 04:22:17 they love that esoteric stuff 04:22:33 so do i but im not an asshole 04:22:38 Order out of chaos the Hegelian dialect the logo of the 33rd degree of the Scottish rite symbolises it 04:22:55 after bittrex announced the delisting of monero I loaded up Bisq and well... 04:23:07 anyone know other exchanges that will serve washington state :( 04:23:12 ik the masons are just a boys club, my dad's a mason 04:23:50 is he a 33 degree mason? 04:23:56 He's in the blue ranks he hasn't been born again yet 04:24:18 i was asking this earlier and didn't get an answer. i'll ask again. when atomic swaps are implemented will they just be atomic swaps for btc at first? will the p2p system broadcast prices somehow so people can get an idea of market prices? 04:24:27 he used to be a shriner, but he has since stopped paying the shriner fees 04:24:31 so i think so 04:25:01 will atomic swaps eventually be for other coins besides BTC (like tether for instance)? 04:25:32 its my understanding that atomic swaps can be implemented in other currencies ya 04:26:05 all hail moloch de owl 04:26:47 whats wrong with bisq? 04:26:50 attacks have finally stopped. :) 04:26:57 at least on my node 04:27:31 i'm mostly interested in how people will know the market price if they are using atomic swaps 04:28:12 bittrex = shittrex ever since those cucks forced kyc 04:28:33 would be nice if some kind of average trade price got broadcast over the p2p network and appeared in the wallet 04:29:07 * zed19[m] uploaded a video: vlc-record-2hey Live - Based on a True Story ️.mp4-.mp4 (2649KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sGbHoKgyEgZogmShpLzojWrC/vlc-record-2hey Live - Based on a True Story ️.mp4-.mp4 > 04:29:39 CONSUME 04:29:55 "by the year 2025" 04:30:13 we should make an encrypted chat 04:30:24 they plan this bullshit which has started last year till 2025 04:30:25 vekin: maybe poloniex services Wash, don't know 04:31:08 h2017: swaps will be worked out specifically for btc first 04:32:09 there are encrypted chats but if it is a public room what does it matter 04:32:39 zed19[m]: the prices kinda suck on bisq so I'm not willing to pay a 15% markup to use it as a payment to the merchants i buy from 04:32:47 rather just pay the extra credit card fees 04:33:23 there are crypto to crypto exchanges 04:33:46 if you want to use a CC then................. 04:34:03 ya poloniex hasn't serviced WA since 2017 04:34:55 lol i really don't care if "they" know I'm buying Anvifen :P 04:36:17 localmonero probably a better option than bisq at the moment which kinda sucks 04:42:17 hmm it looks like they may have re-opened trading in WA on poloniex thanks nioc 04:43:24 imma in NY 04:43:39 oof yeah so you feel it worse than i do 04:43:47 so like a frog in a straight jacket and the water is getting warmer lol 04:43:52 ultra liberal states suck 04:44:14 well NY is different cause of the financial sector 04:44:43 they already had the infrastructure to regulate 04:45:04 true, but I don't understand how WA can just force licenses on companies that don't technically operate within their borders 04:46:07 just feels like gross over-reach 04:47:09 much of the regulation in NY, financial and other things, actually helps people from corp overreach 04:47:19 i agree - you can invite me if you wish 04:48:13 >Unfortunately, we are unable to provide services to users in your location. 04:48:18 oof nvm on poloniex lame 04:48:28 with crypto there is much they didn't seem to understand 04:49:18 the only thing i know about the NY regulation was that they had to have a physical presence in the state to trade due to some kind of disability law? 04:49:35 need to get some btc to check out the trades 04:49:40 and ofc the need to help those already with the power in the financial sector 04:49:47 but that sucks indeed 04:50:13 oh, i don't mind the deposit, but you have to trade large amounts to make the fees palitable 04:50:27 palatable* 04:50:52 and the makers already have a markup on top of that 04:50:59 very little volume 04:51:33 so to even try it out is kind of expensive if you buy a small amount which makes the barrier to entry pretty high for casual use of xmr 05:02:43 think xmr will rise a lot more despite shitty cexchange politics? 05:07:08 I'll keep holding regardless, I messaged poloniex to get clarification on whether or not they were servicing WA, their twitter said they re-opened trading for residents but the account creation says I'm in a restricted area 05:07:39 it doesn't effect my ability to spend XMR just makes it harder to buy it 05:07:58 affect 05:12:16 thematrix5000[m]: yes we're both on IRC 05:14:36 Wow its him 05:15:18 I was listening to you on a few podcasts like what bitcoin did and monero talk and another monero one 05:37:49 As far as I understand Monero enforces 10 confirmations before a tx becomes spendable. Is this also enforced on `regtest` ? Is it enforced on `stagenet`? 06:17:41 After running some tests I don't think that 10 confirmations for being able to spend from a tx are required for neither `regtest` nor `stagenet`. Please correct me if I am mistaken or point me to documentation if available. I could not find anything around this specific topic :) 06:30:56 Daniel[m]5: stagenet is a 1:1 match to mainnet, so it should be enforced 06:31:03 and I can't think of any reason for it not to be enforced on testnet 06:33:02 That is what I thought, but I just sent a tx that spent from another that only had `5` confirmations on stagenet and it was not rejected. I would have guessed that this ex should have been rejected. Could not figure out why it was not so far. 06:33:18 * Thanks fluffypony - That is what I thought, but I just sent a tx that spent from another that only had `5` confirmations on stagenet and it was not rejected. I would have guessed that this ex should have been rejected. Could not figure out why it was not so far. 06:33:22 yeah that's odd 06:34:58 hm... I will try to reproduce it a few more times. The software I am using is relatively complex (swapping btc to xmr ...) so it is a bit hard to reproduce this in isolation. I reckon only more testing can show why this worked. 06:35:56 * hm... I will try to reproduce it a few more times. The software I am using is relatively complex (swapping btc to xmr ...) so it is a bit hard to reproduce this in isolation. I reckon only more testing and digging through the code can show why this worked. 06:37:18 Could you potentially point me to a point in the monero codebase where the enforcement of this rule happens? Only if you know it from the top of you head :) 06:37:37 don't know it off the top of my head - also might be useful to ask in #monero-dev 06:38:22 oh yeah, makes sense, thanks! 06:38:55 IIRC it was added to the consensus protocol in the past 12 months 06:48:17 slightly off, sept 2019. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/5882 06:48:19 Daniel[m]5: ^ 06:53:15 Thanks ndorf ! Will invest a bit more thinking and testing time tomorrow. 09:24:08 do i always have to specify my desirable path for the blockchain data when starting monerod? 09:34:01 ./monerod --data-dir /path/to/valhalla 09:34:06 always like this? 09:40:58 Yeah 09:41:28 Otherwise it starts from the begining in the default path 09:44:47 ok ty 10:45:19 Goood Morning Vietnam! I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag? 11:09:29 migration to dex - send xmr from a cexchange to a temporary wallet and then to the main 11:09:53 empty the temporary wallet and delete it 11:09:53 he left, he was just trolling 11:10:14 he posted it in all the monero IRC channels and then left all of them 11:10:15 oh ok 11:10:33 drive by trolling 11:10:47 I'm going to re-use that :D 11:11:09 i did as well lol 11:18:23 wow the sync is taking so long 11:19:19 like promised 11:35:24 You could use a config file instead. There are a couple of places in which monerod looks for it, and if it does it automatically takes its parameters 13:14:23 radicle is picking up speed. A p2p github. 13:14:32 https://radicle.xyz/ 15:27:25 from radicle: 15:27:25 * u9000[m] uploaded an image: image.png (132KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/bQHJGZgirwTaXqfKzxuZtpUr/image.png > 16:42:39 Any security or resource implications of running monerod on a small home server 24/7? 16:43:09 you could be targeted by hackers that want access to your wallet 16:43:50 purely hypothetical though 16:51:37 If you left rpc open/unrestricted, someone could start mining on your system. That issue can easily by mitigate by a firewall, restricting rpc, or binding the rcp port to the host. 16:52:52 If someone wanted to ddos a clearnet node, they could launch a ddos against your ip, which could temporarily knock you offline.. 16:53:50 Theoretical transaction/ip correlation could be matched up if you host a node on your home ip, but that is heavily mitigated by dandelion++. 17:02:00 my node crashed 4h ago. before that it had ran for 4.5+ days 17:02:10 i'll update the ban lists 17:02:26 Are you sure it crashed (and not, say killed by OOM) ? 17:02:42 probably killed by OOM yes 17:04:33 made me check the memory usage on mine, 9GB 3 day uptime, banlist from the 24th 17:17:27 is 2/3 multisig fully operational in the latest version of CLI ? 17:23:39 selsta another potentially bad IP for consideration 195.201.41.220 (stuckm for houts at block 2263960 "synchronizing", Hetzner) 17:29:48 xmready: It should be 17:57:13 hi 18:03:01 selsta another potentially bad IP for consideration 195.201.41.220 (stuck for hours at block 2263960 "synchronizing", Hetzner DC) 18:22:26 monerouser1144: adding to list 18:40:23 YAY I have 102(in) connections 19:08:33 if everyone was running a non-bootstrapping fully synced node, and everyone had 12 outgoing connections, then everyone would have 12 matching incoming connections, right? 19:08:38 everything would be balanced 19:09:23 so that implies that that there are something like 9 to 10 times more leeching nodes than seeding ones right? 19:09:47 well there are probably people running nodes just to use a wallet 19:09:57 i do that but i let it seed 19:12:52 a lot of people seem to change the default number of outgoing peers 19:17:39 680 peers on one node, 757 peers on another 19:18:24 before the holiday/christmas attacks, I use to routinely reach over 1k peers. 19:22:55 is a rasp pi worthless as a monero node? 19:24:41 people use them to run btc nodes... 19:25:02 not worthless but the lack of hardware AES makes them a pain 20:38:58 hello 20:39:43 if someone double EMISSION_SPEED_FACTOR_PER_MINUTE what will happen to his daemon 20:56:30 the sync is so slow its not normal 20:57:00 should i reastart monerod? 20:57:03 restart* 20:58:13 zed19[m]: what is the output of "status" 21:00:50 no status 21:01:34 on CLI 21:02:03 which OS are you using? 21:03:11 debian 21:03:49 can you do ./monerod status 21:07:18 I just had a system crash while monerod was catching up, and now it seems unable to continue. Any ideas? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FnkvjYkNkS/ 21:08:36 nerdcore: you can try ./monerod --db-salvage 21:08:56 2021-01-05 21:09:00.301 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.8-release) 21:09:17 is that the full output? 21:09:23 yes 21:09:48 there should be a second line 21:10:19 trying that now ty selsta 21:10:48 nerdcore: worst case it is corrupted, it can happen if your system crashes during sync 21:11:59 I figured I might need to delete the most recent block file or something :P 21:12:05 selsta: seems to be working! Thanks! 21:13:26 its all i get 21:22:21 The blockchain is on a rotating drive: this will be very slow, use an SSD if possible 21:22:28 very very very slow would be accurate 21:22:30 lol 21:24:54 zed19[m]: how much percent did you sync up 21:26:02 91% 21:35:43 yeah, the chain gets pretty busy the last 10% 21:36:44 all righty then 23:39:50 I am working with the wallet rpc and found the transfer method and the transfer_split method. transfer_split says it can "split into more than one tx if necessary"... does anyone know why the split would be necessary. thanks 23:44:04 gas 23:55:26 anyone working on a munin plugin or similar?