00:30:51 <bloobar> When using xmrig, is it possible to pause a worker remotely, i.e., through the HTTP API?
00:33:43 <bloobar> Found my answer. You can do it through the API, although I didn't see it in workers.xmrig.info.
00:42:03 <gabbiel> monero daemon = running your own node?
00:44:19 <nioc> yes
00:45:50 <thematrix5000[m]> You pronounce daemon like demon right
00:46:03 <gabbiel> wish raspbian had monero package, forced to have the daemon on my laptop now
00:46:17 <gabbiel> i dont think so
00:46:44 <gabbiel> thematrix5000[m]: more like, day-mawn, not dee-mawn
00:48:51 <thematrix5000[m]> Okay
00:50:01 <gabbiel> which exchanges are the most based?
00:52:18 <terroristofthehe> Not sure if I understand the question correctly but I've always used localmonero.
00:52:37 <terroristofthehe> Has anyone tried bisq?
01:18:46 <zed19[m]> <gabbiel "which exchanges are the most bas"> centralized ones -> kraken and binance
01:20:27 <zed19[m]> <terroristofthehe "Has anyone tried bisq?"> soon... need some btc for it though
01:22:09 <zed19[m]> xmr needs to hit the binance dex
01:22:56 <terroristofthehe> Yeah, I've looked into bisq for some time but haven't bit the bullet yet. Seems a bit more  complicated and more expensive than localmonero.
01:24:13 <terroristofthehe> I love the simplicity of p2p exchanges. Just pay a guy and get monero in return. Never had any trouble.
01:25:03 <zed19[m]> localmonero sounds a bit risky
01:26:00 <terroristofthehe> Maybe, in what way?
01:28:22 <zed19[m]> because you have to trust the trader
01:28:51 <zed19[m]> bisq is just working with a preprogrammed code
01:32:26 <zed19[m]> but at least those traders have a rep to go with
01:32:30 <terroristofthehe> Well, I've bought monero and other crypto with fiat using SEPA payments. With those you can prove that you've paid to the seller in case of a dispute. Then the p2p exchange staff can determine that the seller is in the wrong and staff can complete the trade. The monero goes into escrow as soon as you start the trade.
01:33:07 <terroristofthehe> The seller has to actually have the required monero in their exchange wallet
01:34:16 <zed19[m]> all right, sounds good
02:14:10 <gabbiel> whats the difference between wallet rpc and the daemon?
02:14:57 <dgoddard> The daemon serves the RPC requests. It also serves blocks to peers (via TCP without RPC)
02:15:11 <mnt_grrrl> looking for an exchange that takes usd from Zelle
02:16:54 <dgoddard> RPC lets the daemon act as a "remote node" for other wallets. By default, only a wallet on your local computer.
02:20:28 <gabbiel> ok thank you
02:20:39 <gabbiel> mnt_grrr: localmonero
02:23:41 <mnt_grrrl> gabbiel: any place that does not have a mark up?
02:28:44 <terroristofthehe> <mnt_grrrl "gabbiel: any place that does not"> A place like that most likely doesn't exist unfortunately
02:41:06 <gabbiel> monero chads rise up
02:45:53 <sethsimmons> <mnt_grrrl "gabbiel: any place that does not"> It’s not a markup, it’s market price for not donating all of your personal info to an exchange/gov.
02:46:11 <sethsimmons> KYC exchanges give you a discount in exchange for your PII.
02:50:03 <terroristofthehe> And if you intend to withdraw the xmr from the exchange you still might end up with more or less the same amount compared to if you made the trade on localmonero. The centralized exchanges really likes to bury their documentation of their fees.
02:51:38 <terroristofthehe> At least to my experience. I've only traded low amounts so far
02:52:20 <sethsimmons> Avoiding KYC and custodians is well worth 5% or less to me.
02:53:31 <terroristofthehe> This is the way
02:56:06 <mnt_grrrl> ok
02:56:12 <mnt_grrrl> thank you!
03:02:01 <nioc> sethsimmons: hmmm  :)
03:02:39 <sethsimmons> No KYC is the way 😉
03:20:37 <h2017> they don't even have the courtesy to give you ky jelly before they subject you to kyc
03:22:31 <h2017> i don't know why i typed that. i'm in full on babble mode
03:25:18 <h2017> i have done kyc for four exchanges that were eventually hacked at one time or another. (mt gox, bitfinex, cavirtex claims to have been hacked once but no damage was done, and quadrigacx)
03:26:06 <h2017> i think my passport is permanently on a public blockchain now
03:28:27 <terroristofthehe> That's the reason for as well to not register on exchanges anymore. They're too high of a target for hackers. The only one I kind of trust anymore is Kraken because they went out of their way to support PGP encrypted emails.
03:29:27 <questi> do people like none custodial exchanges?
03:29:28 <questi> xD
03:29:41 <gingeropolous> ugh, damnit. with the new bindings, my local network xmrig miners can't connect to the daemon that has restricted rpc ports
03:31:24 <gingeropolous> ok, so if i bind unrestricted rpc to 0.0.0.0, and restricted rpc to the box's IP, then maybe it'll work?
03:32:28 <gingeropolous> huzzah it worked
03:34:13 <terroristofthehe> gingeropolous: Been mining long?
03:34:23 <nioc> I hear that gingeropolous can figure anything out
03:34:55 <gingeropolous> :) nioc . terroristofthehe, been mining for too long. switched to solo mining and reeeeaaaalllly hating the variance
03:37:49 <terroristofthehe> Haha, I've trying out mining after I heard of the recent attack. Solo for me as well.
03:39:28 <terroristofthehe> Haven't seen any rewards yet. Won't probably ever see any as I'm just using monerd on auto :p
03:39:43 <terroristofthehe>  * Haven't seen any rewards yet. Won't probably ever see any as I'm just using monerod on auto :p
03:41:07 <questi> my dad is my son can you explain?
03:41:27 <questi> we are in a time warp where once I have a kid he enters into past and begets me
03:41:50 <questi> once I am certain age I enter his past and beget him
04:48:39 <Beags[m]> > once I am certain age I enter his past and beget him
04:48:39 <Beags[m]> are you ethan hawke?
06:19:48 <KongNguyen57> Goood Morning Vietnam! I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
06:25:02 <questi> why he was kicked?
07:06:42 <Daniel[m]5> I am running a `stagenet` setup and got the error `Error: failed to parse address` when trying to use `transfer` to this address: `4BGJs8Pw11FYZ3meBzDgwq4rzak7PVZ2gbE1HRuw1FWy58YycCvAn24WJkcnCMmBUVFnyDrPzaEN4cj98EwEZzF8A2zxCHh` - I don't understand why. Are stagenet addresses different from the main network?
07:08:32 <tobtoht> Yes, stagenet addresses start with a 5 (primary) or 7 (subaddress)
07:10:04 <Daniel[m]5> I see, thanks!
07:11:27 <Inge-> questi: eternal spammer and antagonist pushing a monero clone coin
07:45:03 <mnt_grrrl> localmonero.co is that the correct url? Don't want to strumble on a fake clone
07:47:13 <terroristofthehe> That's the one mnt_grrrl, they also have an .onion if you want to go full anon mode with the tor browser
07:48:37 <modul8[m]> onion is more secure
07:49:17 <terroristofthehe> It's what I would recommend as well.
07:49:17 <mnt_grrrl> modul8[m] indeed
07:51:19 <modul8[m]> bitcoin is going to crash sooner or later. nobody i know really follows this stuff and stores i approach ignore or dont understand accepting crypto as a payment method. sucks we are too adcanced for the normies. what should i read after finishing the fall of hyperion?
07:57:12 <camalonso> not sure about that, looks like bitcoin cannot be crashed. it has been absurdly high so long it kinda warped the reality and now everybody believes this is just normal.
09:57:03 <Inge-> modul8[m]: damn that is a blast from the past.
09:57:19 <Inge-> Buy bitcoin for 30K today or 400K in a few years.
11:33:20 <mmxxx[m]> orly
11:33:27 <mmxxx[m]> where did you pull the 400k number from?
11:33:53 <mmxxx[m]> why I keep seeing such inflated figures attached to btc?
11:35:10 <Beags[m]> if they say it enough times maybe people will believe it
12:34:00 <Inge-> What is this magic with the mempool? transactions appear within seconds
12:34:11 <Inge-> Does that indicate no D++ in use?
14:06:51 <kourales> hello
14:07:55 <kourales> does "dust" play any role after rct
14:08:07 <kourales> what is the meaning here  "version >= HF_VERSION_EXACT_COINBASE"
14:12:58 <hyc> checking if the current blockchain version is newer than a particular hardfork
14:27:03 <kourales> why opposite use of less amount ? "coinbase transaction doesn't use full amount of block reward"
14:30:32 <hyc> if that was pre-ringct, it was because exact amounts would create too much dust, or something like that
14:30:40 <hyc> since amounts were in denominations
14:31:04 <hyc> so the value would be rounded off to avoid that
14:37:07 <kourales> yes but version >13 is allways rct so what's the meaning here
14:38:10 <moneromooo> It means that after a cutoff, blocks which do not claim the entire allowed amount in coinbase are rejected.
14:38:24 <moneromooo> Before htat, they were allowed.
14:38:53 <moneromooo> And this created an info leak, so an observer could tell whether two blocks were mined by the same entity if they both claimed less in a particular way.
14:38:58 <moneromooo> Tiny though.
14:40:43 <kourales> very rare really
14:42:50 <hyc> a leak is a leak. tiny leaks still get exploited
14:43:06 <hyc> look at Inte SGX...
14:43:14 <hyc> Intel*
15:26:58 <yonatanbl> exit()
16:51:53 <monerouser1144> selsta please consider 2 more possibly bad IPs: 168.119.153.14 & 135.181.96.97 ("syncing", stuck at block 2263960) -- http://paste.debian.net/1179682/
16:54:11 <selsta> added, thanks
17:26:25 <Lovera[m]1> Selsta is 100% sure that 1) Node in "syncing mode are bad"
17:26:25 <Lovera[m]1> 2) If any of my peers are this nodes, my node will stuck?
17:26:25 <Lovera[m]1> Im asking because, im running my node w/o DNS and txt file, and I have some peers with that status "syncing" but my node is ok
17:26:44 * Lovera[m]1 uploaded an image: Screenshot_20210102-020213_VNC Viewer.jpg (174KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pGZGNoplnocHXytrSCtyyTdn/Screenshot_20210102-020213_VNC Viewer.jpg >
17:26:54 <selsta> You can ignore it, it does not harm your node.
17:27:02 <Lovera[m]1> Ok thanks
17:27:22 <selsta> I assume they are currently in "pause" mode and will switch to a new attack at some point.
17:29:07 <thematrix5000[m]> Fluffy pony is worth 100 million
17:59:59 <nioc> who isn't
18:03:18 <endor00[m]> I know a Nigerian prince worth twice as much
18:04:07 <endor00[m]> And if you send 1 XMR to him, he will share his wealth with you
18:20:59 <h2017> one of those scammers phoned me from a jamaican number. said that if i gave him a 5000 moneygram he'd give me half a million dollars. there was a delivery team in the neighbourhood ready to give me the check he said
18:21:07 <h2017> i strung him a long for a bit
18:21:14 <raecarruth> :)
18:21:40 <h2017> i said i was going to go to the local shopper's drug mart (chain store in canada if you don't know what it is) and send him the money
18:22:11 <h2017> i think that the justification was that the $5000 was to pay the tax lawyer or something
18:22:40 <h2017> he said that they paid all the taxes are part of the deal but there was a processing fee that had to be paid by me first
18:23:17 <ndorf> if you string them along long enough, you probably saved at least one other person from getting scammed in that time
18:23:51 <raecarruth> good point ndorf
18:24:08 <h2017> he said he was from the ontario gaming commission too (they run all the lotteries), so I went to their web site to see if it was one of the well-known scams. it was actually, so i started telling him about what i was reading on the website. Then he said "We know about that!"
18:30:12 <ndorf> lol.
18:30:27 <ndorf> scammers are just so pathetic, imagine spending your life this way, calling strangers with this bullshit
18:30:27 <monerouser1144> LOL, wrt scammers you should check the hilarious TEDx presentations by James Veitch eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiLS7U7YIdc
18:35:19 <monerouser1144> Q: can you recommend source good sources (subreddits, forums, websites) for following crypto markets, altcoins etc?
18:55:11 <KingBong420> Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!
20:07:01 <h2017> https://pastebin.com/raw/tZELP0bj
20:07:11 <h2017> what's up with that? i have similar messages in my log too
20:07:39 <h2017> node's still running though. it's been up for 4.5 days approx
20:08:34 <Jaska_> finding blocks is taking just a bit longer then usual. nothing to worry about
20:10:35 <h2017> i'm not worried at all
20:10:50 <h2017> but i guess the more i understand the more helpful i can be in the future
20:11:30 <h2017> i'm used to the idea that people will try to distrupt the network. i'm determined to help out but i'm kind of useless
20:11:30 <Quotes> useless? nothing is as useless as »Useless Ethereum Token« (UET®) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/useless-ethereum-token/
20:12:28 <dEBRUYNE> h2017: If you type status into monerod, what does it report?
20:12:51 <h2017> [0;36m2021-01-04 20:12:35.848  I ^[0;36mMonero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.1.8-release)
20:12:51 <h2017> ^[0mHeight: 2267336/2267336 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.70 GH/s, v14, 12(out)+76(in) connections, uptime 4d 3h 13m 4s
20:13:13 <h2017> i have that running on watch for the time being
20:15:17 <dEBRUYNE> That looks OK
20:15:20 <dEBRUYNE> Would ignore the message
20:15:42 <dEBRUYNE> Even not having a block for twenty minutes is within the realm of possibilities
20:15:51 <selsta> yea, it happens often
20:16:04 <selsta> sometimes also due to a large hashrate change
20:18:28 <Kaz> Hello I'm experiencing a strange issue on my monero nano S
20:19:16 <Kaz> Whenever I try to send money, the address it wants me to confirm on is the same, and not where I put into the GUI to send to
20:20:37 <selsta> which address does get displayed?
20:21:08 <selsta> is it your own address?
20:21:19 <Kaz> no, its not my address that is displays
20:22:04 <Kaz> Its an address I don't recognize, but the same one no matter who I try and send to
20:22:06 <selsta> can you enter the address you want to send funds to on line 8 here: https://xmr.llcoins.net/addresstests.html
20:22:15 <selsta> and click on check and compare if the ledger displays line 15
20:22:55 <selsta> which OS are you using?
20:23:24 <Kaz> I am on MacOS 10.13.6
20:24:39 <selsta> ok, which GUI version are you using?
20:25:55 <Kaz> 0.17.1.6-cc352e4 (Qt 5.12.8)
20:26:39 <Kaz> Yes, it displays on line 15
20:26:43 <Kaz> what does that mean?
20:26:54 <selsta> it means it is an integrated address
20:27:10 <selsta> which is base address + payment id written as one address
20:27:30 <selsta> the ledger displays the base address so it is different
20:28:07 <Kaz> It looked like that address was coming up even when I was sending it elsewhere, So the ledger and GUI aren't supposed to match?
20:28:26 <selsta> I don’t know which site you were using to generate addresses
20:28:52 <selsta> as a test you can try the address from https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/contributing/
20:28:57 <selsta> you don’t have to send any funds
20:29:05 <selsta> it should correctly display 888tNkZrPN6JsEgekjMnABU4TBzc2Dt29EPAvkRxbANsAnjyPbb3iQ1YBRk1UXcdRsiKc9dhwMVgN5S9cQUiyoogDavup3H
20:30:01 <h2017> if someday monero is banned from all centrealised exchanges would it be possible to propogate atomic swap market prices throughout the p2p network (i can't see why not)?
20:36:35 <dEBRUYNE> h2017: Would you mind removing your reddit thread btw?
20:36:43 <h2017> which one?
20:36:46 <dEBRUYNE> People can get spooked by the message
20:36:52 <h2017> it's not my thread
20:36:59 <dEBRUYNE> This one? https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kqghkp/there_were_0_blocks_in_the_last_20_minutes_there/
20:37:02 <dEBRUYNE> Same pastebin
20:37:07 <h2017> not my thread not my pastebin
20:37:25 <h2017> he posted the pastebin link in the thread iircc
20:37:51 <h2017> he (or she)
20:38:28 <dEBRUYNE> ok
20:39:00 <h2017> i wouldn't post something like that in the first place
20:39:42 <h2017> it piqued my curiosity i admit but unless i knew something was wrong i wouldn't post it and really if there's some kind of problem i rely on the network devels for public communication
20:46:24 <h2017> i downvoted it
21:13:15 <Kronovestan> Sent 134072162677 bytes (124.86 GB) in 10263143 packets in 1.0 days, average 1.48 MB/s = 0.15% of the limit of 976.56 MB/s, 16(out)+67(in) connections, uptime 1d 0h 3m 52s
21:13:23 <Kronovestan> This is seeding, correct?
21:18:51 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Yes. You have 67 in connections, which is good. And 124 GB in one day is quite sporty :)
21:20:36 <dEBRUYNE> h2017: No worries, I responded on Reddit to the other guy
21:28:55 <Kronovestan> rbrunner7, any way to make it do more? peers limit I have at 120
21:29:55 <mnt_grrrl> Kronovestan, here is mine you are doing well Received 43346096307 bytes (40.37 GB) in 20433856 packets in 3.8 days, average 128.24 kB/s = 0.01% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
21:29:55 <mnt_grrrl> Sent 41538295479 bytes (38.69 GB) in 10639316 packets in 3.8 days, average 122.89 kB/s = 0.01% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
21:30:01 <mnt_grrrl> what is your set up
21:34:16 <Kronovestan> mnt_grrrl, datacenter glass fiber to ethernet. here is a cropped speedtest for location privacy https://i.imgur.com/WYV0Emz.png
21:35:35 <Kronovestan> Hah well I think the whois on me gives that away. *facepalm*
21:41:48 <mnt_grrrl> 10
21:41:48 <mnt_grrrl>  DOWNLOAD Mbps
21:41:48 <mnt_grrrl> 4144.06
21:41:48 <mnt_grrrl>  UPLOAD Mbps
21:41:48 <mnt_grrrl> 766.52
21:42:20 <ohmysomuchuser> Hello all. Is the following hosting solution OK for a node: https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=3
21:43:39 <Kronovestan> mnt_grrrl, I can only ever get speed tests to do it around 900 both up and down. Think it's Mbps but not sure what that translates into the daemon, I can never make them match
21:43:41 <mnt_grrrl> ohmysomuchuser, what plan
21:44:37 <Kronovestan> print_net_stats will change the ending line to be something different each time you change "limit" but I can't find the right numbers to match 900 Mbps
21:44:54 <Kronovestan> It always gives MB/s
21:44:57 <Kronovestan> GB/s
21:44:58 <Kronovestan> TB/s
21:45:30 <Kronovestan> I think I'm on 1GB/s
21:45:39 <ohmysomuchuser> E5-250GB or E5-DL300
21:47:39 <endor00[m]> ohmysomuchuser looks a bit overpriced for what they offer - it seems to me that a lot of those resources are not "dedicated" to you but shared among multiple users? so performance won't be great probably
21:48:44 <ohmysomuchuser> endor00[m], thank you. I'm new to this. Just hoping to do my bit.
21:48:45 <mnt_grrrl> I felt the same thing. I am using evolution-host.com and paying 10 eud
21:48:56 <ohmysomuchuser> I will keep looking.
21:49:09 <ohmysomuchuser> mnt_grrrl, thank you. I will have a look.
21:49:42 <mnt_grrrl> ohmysomuchuser, it looks like me speed is pretty good comparing it to Kronovestan
21:56:34 <MBC> I've got a question
21:56:36 <ohmysomuchuser> evolution-host 10EUR option is sold out.
21:56:57 <MBC> Since monero forked from bytecoin, do they share the same genesys block?
21:57:12 <MBC> as of now?
21:57:47 <nioc> it was a code fork not a chain fork so no
21:58:02 <MBC> thanks
21:58:11 <mnt_grrrl> https://evolution-host.com/vps-hosting.php does not look sold out
21:58:46 <nioc> and the code now bears little resemblance to bytecoin/cryptonote
21:59:09 <ohmysomuchuser> Can you help me understand the my.letbox.com "RB1 RBox" option?
21:59:31 <mnt_grrrl> ohmysomuchuser, yes you can pm me if that is easier
21:59:37 <ohmysomuchuser> mnt_grrrl, it says "out of stock" when I try to order.
22:00:28 <mnt_grrrl> ohmysomuchuser, try the $5 with a storage upgrade
22:01:00 <aum> what's the name of the monero trading channel again?
22:01:21 <nioc> #monero-markets
22:01:41 <nioc> or were you asking about reditt
22:01:42 <Kronovestan> mnt_grrrl, mine costs $65USD/mo
22:01:55 <aum> nioc that's the one - thanks
22:01:59 <nioc> :)
22:06:50 <aum> can anyone here recommend a linux daemon which maintains a local database mirror of historical and current coin prices?
22:12:38 <Kronovestan> rbrunner7, ISP is fine with the output as the glass is dedicated. I just learned today form talking to the ISP manager that the modem on the glass connection has 4 ethernet plugs and I'm only using 1. I have 3 more connections I can use with 3 more IP addresses I'm already paying for but not using. Setting that up now.
22:22:22 <mnt_grrrl> Kronovestan, wow that is pricy
22:23:53 <Lyza> funny I was thinking that's hella cheap
22:24:11 <Kronovestan> mnt_grrrl, I live next door and am able to string an ethernet cord over the street in pvc pipe.. I feel blessed actually
22:26:41 <mnt_grrrl> oh I thought you where just paying for hosting not bandwidth to your home
22:27:09 <Kronovestan> ;)
22:27:33 <Kronovestan> I'm renting space for ETH/XMR miners and happen to live right next door
22:28:05 <mnt_grrrl> ah may I pm?
22:28:09 <Kronovestan> sure
22:42:01 <mnt_grrrl> are there specific location where hosts are needed currently?
22:44:27 <MBC> I think that's best asked on #monero-dev
23:06:25 <Kronovestan> 77(in) connections.. yay it's growing!
23:52:01 <mnt_grrrl> how do I run status, print_net_stats if I am running monerod in detach mode
23:52:53 <sethsimmons> If you used my guide just do monerod command
23:53:07 <sethsimmons> Like:
23:53:07 <sethsimmons> monerod print_net_stats
23:53:17 <sethsimmons> If not then just specify the full path to the binary for monerod
23:55:02 <mnt_grrrl> perfect