00:05:52 <nioc> it says on their site  1%
00:32:35 <xmrmatterbridge> <coinpouch> I have few dollars in BTC in coinbase, pretty new to it all. I like the idea of Monero, but not sure where to start.
00:46:52 <nioc> coinbase does not have monero
00:47:18 <nioc> Kraken is a good exchange that does
00:47:55 <aum> +1 for kraken, great for all kinds of coin-shuffling, but beware their sudden demands for tissue samples
00:48:33 <nioc> No more than coinbase I imagine
00:49:45 <aum> I don't use kraken for fiat, so they're not heavying on me
00:49:46 <nioc> Kraken is increasing their banking support in 2021
00:50:29 <nioc> They are taking the message, be your own bank, to heart
00:50:50 <aum> apparently, for customers in some jurisdictions (eg Aus), they don't permit XMR
00:51:34 <nioc> aum: is that where you are?
00:51:53 <aum> nioc no thankfully
00:52:25 <aum> where I am, I can enter or leave XMR at will -- at least for now
01:03:36 <xmrmatterbridge> <coinpouch> Ah,ok thanks for the feedback
01:11:28 <camalonso> selsta: another n+1: 178.128.189.134
01:13:14 <selsta> n+2 ?
01:13:25 <selsta> but seems to be one, also digital ocean
01:13:46 <camalonso> well it was blocking me with +1 height
01:13:59 <selsta> it depends when you look
01:14:10 <camalonso> yea, but same guy
01:14:12 <selsta> if you just get a block and they didn’t update yet they will say +1
01:14:19 <camalonso> ok
01:14:22 <selsta> after a couple seconds they will update to +2
01:14:32 <selsta> added it
01:14:39 <camalonso> thank
01:33:43 <aum> [2020-12-28 14:30:49.643]  msr      cannot read MSR 0x000001a4
01:33:43 <aum> [2020-12-28 14:30:49.643]  msr      cannot set MSR 0x000001a4 to 0x0000000f
01:33:43 <aum> [2020-12-28 14:30:49.643]  msr      FAILED TO APPLY MSR MOD, HASHRATE WILL BE LOW
01:36:24 <sethsimmons> Running as root/admin?
01:42:04 <aum> no - as a low-priv user 'monero'
01:42:14 <aum> any way to get MSR working without root?
01:56:26 <aum> does 2kh/s sound reasonable for a full-throttle i5 miner?
02:01:27 <sethsimmons> <aum "any way to get MSR working witho"> Not that I know of
02:01:37 <aum> ok
02:01:39 <sethsimmons> <aum "does 2kh/s sound reasonable for "> Depends on the i5
02:05:52 <aum> xmrig topping at 300% CPU -- just 75% of total processor -- any way to get to closer to 400%?
02:08:29 <vekin> the settings file lets you change the amount of threads
02:12:11 <sethsimmons> You probably don’t want it using all threads on that proc
02:12:18 <sethsimmons> The auto detection is very good in XMRIG
02:12:26 <nioc> aum: how much L3 cache do you have
02:12:34 <nioc> again 2MB per thread
02:12:41 <sethsimmons> It’s more cache dependent than thread dependent
02:13:10 <nioc> my i5 is 6MB so 3 thread max
02:13:25 <aum> how do I set that?
02:13:31 <aum> bios?
02:13:39 <nioc> set what?
02:13:59 <aum> L3 cache
02:14:09 <aum> or is that a fixed hardware sepc
02:14:09 <nioc> it is what it is
02:14:15 <nioc> yep
02:14:36 <sethsimmons> Unless you really know what you’re doing just let XMRig set the settings for you
02:16:21 <nioc> it sets mine at 3 threads but being a prebuilt with marginal PSU I use 2 threads
02:19:35 <aum> it's just a spare hp prodesk I had sitting around, now it's doing nothing but running xmrig full time
02:40:31 <aum> ahh, nearly 4kh/s now - that's better
02:47:05 <nioc> thumbs up
02:48:11 <aum> hmm, no binaries for linux over arm - is that a troublesome build?
02:48:49 <aum> xmrig, that is
03:16:17 <hyc> should be no different than building for linux x86
03:25:41 <aum> would be interesting to compare the hardware $/h/s and the electricity $/h of ARM versus i5/7
03:26:25 <aum> to see if there's an economic case to build up a rack with dozens of raspberry pis
03:29:30 <hyc> not for raspberrys
03:29:38 <hyc> maybe for some other ARM models
03:30:09 <hyc> all raspberry pis lack hardware AES
03:30:21 <hyc> pretty much all other ARM vendors support it tho
03:31:36 <hyc> I designed a mining farm using this https://www.amazon.com/Block-Erupter-Port-USB-220V/dp/B00GCQQE42
03:31:56 <hyc> and a bunch of cheap ARM tvbox things
03:32:19 <hyc> that was back in cryptonite days tho, not enough RAM on these things for randomx
03:33:17 <hyc> lots of AMlogic sticks like https://www.amazon.com/Ocamo-Android-Amlogic-Octa-core-regulations/dp/B07F24VNNV
03:35:19 <hyc> it would have done something like 5000H/s at 240W
03:38:03 <hyc> contacted some ODMs in China to custom make more of the tvbox gadgets but never went to production
03:51:31 <h2017> out of curiosity i imagine that the attacker is paying a lot of money to have all of these ip addresses. is there any way he could have got them on the cheap?
03:52:08 <h2017> who is he paying and how much?
03:52:41 <hyc> a bunch are at OVH. a VPS from them is $3.50/month
04:10:45 <camalonso> he's paying some money and the management of all these boxes also involves something. Guess he's really pissed.
08:20:31 <hyc> he probably has nothing better to do with his time
10:25:56 <xpnlmqwyw> ryo_ru: If i was on their place i would shit bricks daily from recognising a thought that
10:25:57 <xpnlmqwyw> actually more inclined and financial backed guys can come and knock you down. So i would rush for resolution asap
10:25:58 <xpnlmqwyw> fice: But they are stupid and short sighted, with each update they will think it is the last one, pat themselves on the back and declare victory.
10:25:58 <xpnlmqwyw> Welcome to Monero. Are you tired of winning yet?
10:29:25 <vekin> that was interesting lol
10:32:41 <jess> ignore it
12:08:18 <bcdfdeubqr> ryo_ru: If i was on their place i would shit bricks daily from recognising a thought that
12:18:11 <raecarruth> did some news come out about grin?
12:25:57 <hyc> \
12:27:23 <cmobkxewid> Will you sell your Monero to buy Tari?
12:46:29 <lozdiiho> Should I sell Monero to buy Tari?
13:14:05 <dnlauqmfjsyq> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit
13:35:10 <ComplyLast> marx is kicking people from #monero, the marxist takeover is real.
13:37:02 * engels throws more money hopelessly at marx
14:02:21 <checkmate1984[m]> Hello
14:02:46 <checkmate1984[m]> If possible I would need support for installing CLI on android
14:04:28 <checkmate1984[m]> Can you advise an how to once downloaded the files, it's unclear to me how to deal with .bin files
14:04:47 <checkmate1984[m]> * Can you advise an how to? Once downloaded the files, it's unclear to me how to deal with .bin files
14:21:50 <checkmate1984[m]> Sorry in advance for the generic request
14:22:26 <selsta> checkmate1984[m]: afaik you have to use something like termux
14:24:09 <checkmate1984[m]> Installed, I am not rooted
14:24:44 <checkmate1984[m]> So I have to cd /path and...?
14:27:49 <selsta> yes
14:27:57 <selsta> ./monero-wallet-cli
14:34:53 <fehho[m]1> Download termux, move the binary into termux's folder, chmod +x monero-wallet-cli, then run with ./monero-wallet-cli
14:38:34 <xmrmatterbridge> <coinpouch> It was suggested to use Kraken, for buying Monero, I'm in the US. Which Deposit method is better?
14:38:48 <xmrmatterbridge> <coinpouch> Etana or Synapse ?
14:39:33 <checkmate1984[m]> <fehho[m]1 "Download termux, move the binary"> I was getting there considering the no root options... Thanks I'll proceed
14:45:51 <fehho[m]1> CLI Android install Need to use a file manager to move the files because termux can't read outside of it's app storage without root.
14:47:19 <checkmate1984[m]> Done, the issue here is that it's still complaining that I am no root
14:47:20 <checkmate1984[m]> Maybe it's something about termux settings also
14:48:11 * checkmate1984[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/SMtFKOWPhiMdUTixPzvxMHBW/message.txt >
14:48:39 <shkbvyyxy> Do you think that you are too intelligent to be in a cult? Then I would encourage you to look into how any other cult works. They aren't populated by stupid people. Aum Shinrikyo was almost exclusively university professors and graduates. For Pete's sake - they had the know-how and means to make WMDs.
14:51:00 <zib> thats what they said when i joined scientology also
14:51:42 <jess> best to not engage the spam
15:27:34 <SaltilloLC> Look on the bright side. At least you don't need to look for signs of life from fireice_uk anymore.
15:31:06 <fehho[m]1> What command complains about no root?
15:35:50 <checkmate1984[m]> <fehho[m]1 "What command complains about no "> ./monero-wallet-cli
15:36:46 <jcpham> go moonero
15:37:25 * jcpham waiting for OT9
15:40:21 * fehho[m]1 sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/vrdMIPAsPzezrLBpbldwlBpe/message.txt >
15:41:32 <fehho[m]1> When you do ls, the binary should now be green and you can run it.
15:49:45 <checkmate1984[m]> <fehho[m]1 "When you do ls, the binary shoul"> $ chmod +x monero-wallet-cli
15:50:25 <checkmate1984[m]> It does not change colour, it seems not to be executable.. Have I done something wrong?
16:08:15 <coffeeroaster> Is it best to use stagenet or testnet with latest release? (Using this https://monerodocs.org/infrastructure/networks/ ) for reference. (Stagenet Faucet complains I'm using an invalid address.)
16:11:05 <coffeeroaster> checkmate1984[m]: what platform? are you sure you have the right binary?
16:13:59 <checkmate1984[m]> <coffeeroaster "CLI Android install: what platfo"> Amr8 for a fairphone 3? I guess..
16:14:59 <coffeeroaster> checkmate1984[m]: what do you see with "file monero-wallet-cli" ?
16:18:13 <checkmate1984[m]> <coffeeroaster "CLI Android install: what do you"> file monero-wallet-cli
16:18:34 <checkmate1984[m]> * $ file monero-wallet-cli
16:18:34 <checkmate1984[m]> The program file is not installed. Install it by executing:
16:18:34 <checkmate1984[m]>  pkg install file
16:42:32 <ask6155> I know I'm interrupting but to use the 'file' program to check what a file is, you need to install the 'file' program.
16:54:19 <checkmate1984[m]> <ask6155 "I know I'm interrupting but to u"> True.. Installation command?
17:08:44 <coffeeroaster> checkmate1984[m]: install it on your workstation (assuming you have access to a linux box)
17:47:14 <pinheadmz> how are monero hard forks represented by version numbers? (major, minor, etc.)
17:47:31 <pinheadmz> for example i am on 0.17.1.0 -- is that the latest fork?
17:47:38 <pinheadmz> and 0.18.xxx will be the next hard fork?
17:48:36 <moneromooo> The major block number increases. Currently... 14. The minor version is what the miner supports (so 14 until a software version that groks 15 is out).
17:48:55 <moneromooo> 0.17.1.0 looks like a software version.
17:49:08 <pinheadmz> thats what i meant software version
17:49:10 <pinheadmz> sorry
17:49:27 <pinheadmz> but that is also interesting thanks :-)
17:59:29 * fehho[m]1 sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ZNUBtNnplbpesyzZnQtCncYE/message.txt >
18:23:31 <donkeydonkey[m]> node is running good with block_tor.txt from 20 hours ago. Height: 2262234/2262236 (99.9%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.66 GH/s, v14, 12(out)+81(in) connections, uptime 0d 20h 57m 54s
18:28:49 <elchupacabra420[> Version .7 ?
18:30:02 <donkeydonkey[m]> yes
18:30:21 <donkeydonkey[m]> every once in a while it blocks an IP on its won
18:30:24 <donkeydonkey[m]>  * every once in a while it blocks an IP on its own
18:46:45 <grinchie> ok quick question from a new monero user..... .. if i create a "subaccount" called "MyOnlineShop".... and give it to 1000 people.... how do I know which 1000 actually sent money??? can they specify an ID/etc.. or is there one generated and I can verify by matching what they say the transaction number is to what it shows as a transaction under sub account "MyOnlineShop"??
18:47:24 <onf> grinchie: they can generate proof of tx
18:48:23 <onf> grinchie: however, most shops I've seen that used monero handle this issue by creating a new address for every purchase
18:48:30 <onf> *use
18:48:37 <grinchie> awesome... let me see if my google foo turns up anything
18:49:25 <onf> grinchie: you can see that option in monero-gui, by the way
19:08:58 <shotgun_surgery[> hey guys, what kind of equipment do you recomend to mine?
19:11:17 <onf> shotgun_surgery[: look for randomx benchmarks, randomx is an algo that monero uses for mining
19:15:18 <shotgun_surgery[> Amazing. Thank you onf
20:25:43 <checkmate1984[m]> <coffeeroaster "CLI Android install: install it "> Ok, so just to reconcile a bit: 1. The bin files are normally manageable having root permission through CLI interfaces like Termux 2. A possible circumvention may be to change the permissions through chmod +x 3. To check the file details in to look for further possibilities (considering that is not possible to install "file" on termux) is to esamine the same files on
20:25:43 <checkmate1984[m]> an Ubuntu machine using the software "files"... Correct?
20:45:09 <MalMen> RX packets 909900054  bytes 1234637404102 (1.2 TB)
20:45:12 <MalMen> go fireice go
21:43:56 <mnt_grrrl> hay I have a public node. Would someone be willing to look at the config files and tell me if I had any error. Doing clear and i2p so far.
21:45:20 <h2017> mnt_grrrl, i'm not an expert so i won't help with the config but what happens when you do monerod status? that tells you if you have incoming p2p connections
21:46:10 <mnt_grrrl> 62(out)+15(in) connections
21:47:06 <h2017> from my own limited experience, if the blocks are at 100% and you've got incoming connections then you are doing what the monero community wants
21:47:37 <mnt_grrrl> ok. Wanting to increase the traffic + add tor
21:47:51 <h2017> sure. i can't help with any of that
21:48:50 <h2017> why do you have so many out connnections (just asking?). The default is 12. Does increasing the amount help with anything?
21:49:00 <h2017> i'm asking from a position of ignorance. i wouldn't know
21:50:41 <h2017> mnt_grrrl, they told me on this channel that increasing that amount of out connections won't accomplish much of anything
21:50:58 <selsta> I keep mine at default 12.
22:07:43 <mnt_grrrl2> h2017, somewhere it suggested that number given the current situation
22:20:24 <mnt_grrrl2> for people doing vps bandwidth is plentiful and speeds up the propagation
22:46:26 <sethsimmons> It’s recommended to keep the out peers at the default 12 unless you’re doing the initial block download.
22:46:26 <sethsimmons> More than that actually harms the network in a few ways and is at the least not beneficial to you in any way.
22:46:39 <sethsimmons> Allowing inbound peers is the most helpful, and is unlimited by default IIRC.
22:54:30 <mnt_grrrl2> sethsmimmons: thank you that is fixed
22:55:46 <selsta> afaik a healthy p2p network spans over a large area and not "everyone is connected to everyone", that’s why it is recommended to keep at default
22:56:35 <selsta> though I could not explain why :P apart from using less bandwidth
22:58:29 <mnt_grrrl2> selsta: giggles