00:01:37 <h2017_> i couldn't find any examples of a perfect systemd file when i googled
00:04:06 <h2017_> thyis is what i came up with: https://paste.ofcode.org/Tt2Hwx78K6kBVw8aW3rnAz
00:06:32 <moneromooo> There's one in the monero tree in contrib.
00:43:57 <ndorf> the one in the monero tree is better IMHO :)
00:57:08 <h2017_> ok i'll have a look
01:07:53 <aum> the systemd file in monero git utils/systemd is working fine for me
01:25:04 <h2017_> i didn't know baout that. i just saw it a few minutes ago
03:02:19 <h2017_> I'm not actually seeing what the "portable mode" checkbox is doing
03:02:28 <h2017_> i wanted to understand that
03:07:02 <h2017_> i can't be bothered. i haven't isntalled monero on a usb stick
03:17:42 <aum> is there any way to get the gui wallet program to permit mining in cases where the node is on a separate box on the same LAN?
03:36:11 <aum> can anyone recommend a good exchange that deals in XMR with a wide range of fiats, and accepts credit cards?
03:45:27 <jwinterm> aum, almost no exchanges take credit cards
03:45:47 <aum> ok thx
03:45:58 <aum> I found a couple of local dealers on localmonero anyway ;)
03:46:02 <jwinterm> np
04:04:23 <h2017_> i don't see my node on monerohash
04:04:36 <h2017_> according to some websites i'm either in kingston ontario or a town called tilbury ontario
04:04:50 <h2017_> that's sort of like ring signatures but for a location
04:05:11 <h2017_> but nm which one is real, i don't see either one on the map and that's disapointing
04:06:49 <h2017_> i have 23 inbound connections too
04:22:49 <nioc> h2017_: my node almost never shows there
04:23:08 <nioc> Give it so time and it may show
04:23:26 <nioc> so = some
06:36:43 <fluffypony> h2017_ / aum: reason I mentioned so is because running a public RPC node is a very different beast
06:36:58 <fluffypony> and has a very different threat model
06:37:16 <fluffypony> the network does not need public RPC nodes, but it does need nodes with open inbound ports
06:37:28 <fluffypony> of course you do an additional service to some network participants running a public RPC node
06:38:01 <fluffypony> but many people don't want to take on the added burden / risk, and that's fine
06:57:44 <endor00[m]> What are the risks of running a public rpc node, specifically?
07:27:56 <dgoddard> RPC calls expose APIs with a much larger attack surface than just the few things a TCP peer needs to do to request blocks, verify them, and share them.
07:42:08 <fluffypony> ^^
07:47:09 <aum> I'll be doing netfilter IP allow-listing for my RPC port
08:50:38 <fluffypony> if you're opening it up for your use that's very different
09:06:56 <Mochi102> nioc, do you run it with --public-node ?
09:20:49 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> sgp_: Hey, would you happen to know what the license is for the Grayhat 2020 Monero Village live stream?  (Would like to post a cut+re-encoded version on the Namecoin website, so I need to know whether the license allows this, and if so, what license disclaimer I should put next to the video.)
10:44:43 <yanmaani> Jeremy_Rand_DT[m: Isn't it fair use?
11:06:45 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> yanmaani: no idea, but some other Monero conference recordings are explicitly labeled as CC-licensed, so I'd rather get some confirmation.  Also the Namecoin.org site is mostly CC-licensed, so if we host a video that is under a different license, I need to know what license disclaimer to put, otherwise people would think it's under the same license as the rest of our site
11:08:12 <yanmaani> If it's just of your talk, you don't need to ask permission
11:08:23 <yanmaani> Or I guess there's some announcer whose permission you'd need
11:12:33 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> yanmaani: I mostly care about the introduction from rehrar etc; I have a raw recording of what I submitted to him, which I already own the copyright on.  If it were a recording that the conference made of my talk, I would not automatically have any rights to it.
11:13:50 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> And yes, I understand that a ~30-second introduction may be short enough that it's covered by fair use, I'd still like to be on firmer legal ground than that.  Especially since Monero as a community is open enough that I wouldn't be surprised if a CC license is approved
11:14:29 <yanmaani> it's not possible to copyright a recording. (Burrow-Giles Lithographic Co. v. Sarony)
11:15:45 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> yanmaani: again, I do not care what your legal theories are on why I don't need a favorable license, I still wish to ask about the license, please stop badgering me about this.
11:28:02 <ErCiccione[m]> Anybody has the ;ink of the announcement of Monero on bitcointalk?
11:34:13 <raecarruth> btctalk :)
11:34:19 <raecarruth> haven't been there in years
11:40:20 <yanmaani> ErCiccione[m]: wasn't it announced as somthing else at first?
11:41:04 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah, Bitmonero and later the name was changed in just Monero
11:45:36 <yanmaani> ErCiccione[m]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0
11:45:42 <yanmaani> but you had bytecoin before that, etc
11:45:50 <raecarruth> ew, bytecoin
11:50:44 <ErCiccione[m]> yanmaani: yeah i only need it to add a link somewhere. Thanks.
12:10:58 <zed19[m]> how big is the blockchain right now?
12:10:59 <zed19[m]> in gb
12:11:40 <havk[m]> 66 Gb
12:11:50 <zed19[m]> thanks
12:52:01 <ErCiccione[m]> zed19: should be closer to 100GB
12:55:00 <Navion250> Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work.
12:55:03 <Navion250> For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off.
12:55:06 <Navion250> For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from loosers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't steal your money.
12:55:24 <dEBRUYNE> ^ jess
12:57:43 <sandy-claws> i wonder if he's going to spend Christmas doing that
12:58:25 <Inge-> zed19[m]: my monerod folder i 95GB currently
13:04:39 <ComplyLast> I'm certainly not here for the Magical Crypto Friends, 1/4 of them are VISA maximalists.
13:09:57 <Inge-> ComplyLast: Love how someone pushes a coin that is a clone of monero - and then spams people, telling them to use Zcash instead
13:13:05 <ComplyLast> that part was funny too :)
13:13:19 <fluffypony> heck, I'm not even here for the Magical Crypto Friends
13:13:29 <ComplyLast> you're doing it wrong then fluffypony
13:13:33 <fluffypony> dammit
13:13:47 <yanmaani> isn't this the same loon who claimed we were all racists?
13:13:53 <fluffypony> what does "Monero leadership laughs from loosers like that" even mean
13:13:56 <fluffypony> yanmaani: and that we're a cult
13:14:36 <yanmaani> what's his problem?
13:16:19 <dEBRUYNE> We should start using the term cult member instead of community member lol
13:16:32 <dEBRUYNE> 'The year was 2014 when that pony guy lured me into his cult'
13:18:22 <ComplyLast> church of monero kinda tried that already and it didn't go well
13:18:30 <ComplyLast> lets maybe not go there again
13:25:08 <ErCiccione[m]> The church of Monero was more stupid than harmful
13:25:21 <yanmaani> ...church of monero?
13:25:30 <ComplyLast> ErCiccione[m], agreed
13:37:11 <hyc> I'm glad he's here to teach us about how to have healthy relationships
13:51:28 <sgp_> Jeremy_Rand_DT[m: all you need to do is say it happened at the Monero Village at Grayhat 2020
13:53:44 <sgp_> Which you would probably do anyway
15:38:55 <nioc> <Mochi102> nioc, do you run it with --public-node ? <---- you must have been thinking of somebody else
15:39:32 <Mochi102> You said that your node never ended up on the map.
15:40:16 <nioc> only default
15:41:12 <nioc> thought that it only need inbound connections to show
16:54:26 <Jeremy_Rand_DT[m> sgp_: okay thanks.  That sounds like a CC-BY-4.0 license (i.e. do what you like as long as attribution is given); is that an accurate assessment?
16:55:21 <nioc> https://twitter.com/Ledger/status/1341298494527692801
17:01:13 <sethsimmons> Nice Kobe SerHack!
17:01:21 <sethsimmons> * Nice job SerHack!
17:01:30 <SerHack> Thank you!!!
17:02:42 <Mochi102> Yes, congrats on that SerHack
17:07:51 <afa12354> gingeropolous, hey
17:07:57 <gingeropolous> howdy
17:08:30 <gingeropolous> re: port, 18089 or 18081 is fine. it really doesn't matter at this point, except to perhaps organize it better in your head
17:08:43 <afa12354> gingeropolous, what port do you reccomend for "--rpc-restricted-bind-port" option, is 18089 fine?Also I suppose the warning I get is a bug, because 0.0.0.0 includes the 127.0.0.1 IP and my desktop pc assigned IP in DHCP client list on router settings?
17:09:41 <gingeropolous> i dunno about your dhcp etc setup, but what i've found is that if you want to offer public remote node service, you need to bind the restricted ip to the IP that your DHCP gives you
17:09:58 <gingeropolous> and then forward the port from your dhcp router to that PC
17:11:05 <gingeropolous> and if you want to maintain local access to that node, you have to bind the unrestricted to 127.0.0.1
17:11:32 <gingeropolous> now, if you want another computer on your internal network to still have access to the node, then you have to do different bindings etc
17:11:54 <gingeropolous> and rely on your router firewall to keep the baddies from your unrestricted rpc port
17:12:31 <gingeropolous> i should prolly make an updated guide or something
17:12:46 <gingeropolous> with those soft PDf sploofy graphics
17:28:45 <asf> gingeropolous, even if I use the ip that dhcp gave to my pc and have the 18089 and 18081 ports open on that PC, I still get that "W --public-node is enabled, but RPC server 192.168.1.104:18089 may be unreachable from outside, please check RPC server bind address" warning, It only disappears If use the 0.0.0.0 IP, I haven't confirmed whether this is
17:28:45 <asf> a bug or not with "netstat -a" yet
17:34:39 <donkeydonkey[m]> <fluffypony "the network does not need public"> so running a node without --public-node and With --restricted-rpc. is that the basic options for a non public RPC node. or something else? thanks
18:53:15 <aum> can anyone recommend a good bitcoin wallet app for linux?
20:03:42 <rehrar> Jeremy_Rand_DT[m: use my recording intro. CC.
20:07:02 <viperperidot[m]> <aum "can anyone recommend a good bitc"> Electrum electrum.org
20:07:51 <aum> viperperidot[m], thanks -- especially that I don't need to pull 300+GB of chain
20:10:03 <viperperidot[m]> Yep just be aware of the potential risks when connecting to a public node on bitcoin
20:40:03 <Zta> Sorry =)
20:40:12 <Minimons> Life is hard, Zta! :-D
20:55:42 <h2017> i finally have my permanent monero node set up
20:56:30 <h2017> still syncing but other than that it's good to go
20:57:54 <sethsimmons> :D
20:57:56 <sethsimmons> Nice job h2017:
20:59:10 <h2017> thanks, i feel good about giving back (not being sarcastic at all)
21:10:06 <h2017> that sounded like i was being sarcastic
21:10:54 <h2017> i'm NOT being sarcastic. i am genuninely happy to be contributing to the success of this project in this small way
21:17:56 <blackrat> history will never forget this your sacrifice ;)
21:22:44 <ndorf> h2017: thanks for doing your part, we appreciate it :)
21:22:45 <Zta> snnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-ahhhh... IRC smells good this evening!
21:23:52 <nioc> synesthesia
21:24:11 <Zta> of course my crappy irc client had to crash right after I wrote that
21:24:49 <nioc> guess you missed this then.....  synesthesia
21:26:13 <Zta> that looks like a wiki rabbit hole
21:26:32 <Zta> I'm not ready for that just yet =)
21:45:17 <h2017> in the GUI, after connecting to a remote node, the commands no longer work. It appears to think that the node is at 127.0.0.1 from the POV of running commands
22:00:39 <sethsimmons> You can’t run commands against a restricted RPC.
22:00:45 <sethsimmons> AFAIK