00:10:52 <h2017> Synced 2100715/2256677 (93%, 155962 left, 20% of total synced, estimated 13.7 hours left) <---how to i parse this? 20% of what have been synced?
00:23:25 <moneromooo> It's confusing, IIRC it means 20% of the expected amount since you restarted the daemon.
00:38:34 <h2017> ok thanks
00:44:46 <Minimons> Hello! UI seems to be unable to get past "Daemon blocks remaining: 2". I run and connect to a local node (UI and node versions are 0.17.1.7). Any idea on what my next step should be in resolving this?
00:46:25 <moneromooo> Wait for the GUI to fix this. xiphon made a patch on github, you can try it.
00:46:53 <h2017> moneromoo won't the banlist work for that?
00:46:56 <moneromooo> On the monero github, not the GUI. It's in the support wallet api layer.
00:47:14 <moneromooo> It should, unless there are more jokers recently.
00:49:02 <Minimons> So the problem is in the UI - not in the node?
00:49:32 <moneromooo> Yes.
00:49:41 <Minimons> Thanks
00:50:36 <moneromooo> There are patches in the daemon to weed out cases where it can be ascertained early.
00:51:33 <moneromooo> There was actually a bug in the daemon, where it'd notice all the blocks advertised by the peer were already fetched, and would ask for a new set.
00:51:56 <moneromooo> (which would of course be lying)
00:52:25 <moneromooo> We need to get .8 out soon so we can get to the next one ^_^
00:54:29 <Minimons> You guys are doing a terrific job!
03:33:19 <h2017> when i'm running my node how much monthly bandwidth consumption should I expect?
04:30:38 <Franck[m]> Hello, where can I find some instructions to pass the ban list to my node? I am getting the "2 missing blocks" symptoms using .7
04:34:00 <nioc> Franck[m]: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/k5vvsf/update_01715_slow_current_blocks/gehoarz/
04:34:09 <nioc> that should do it
04:34:22 <Franck[m]> I knew it was somewhere in reddit. Thanks!
04:34:27 <nioc> :)
05:48:30 <h2017> on reddit i recall a thread somewhere about an ideal pc to run as a monero node dedicated appliance
05:48:35 <h2017> i can't find it
05:49:30 <h2017> i want to get something purchased tonight
05:53:03 <h2017> i want to get something like one of those lenovo mini desktops but not pay too much money
06:02:02 <strike> h2017: just a full node?
06:02:23 <h2017> I'M looking it up i found the thread
06:02:28 <h2017> people are recommending pine board stuff
06:02:52 <h2017> the lenovo mini's are too expensive
06:13:04 <h2017> when liza said that public nodes are wanted i don't understand that. now that i think of it intend to run the node so the monerod port is open for incoming traffic from other nodes, but not have the rpc port open. isn't that good enough from the pv of adding more honest nodes?
06:14:34 <h2017> i don't want to run one of those nodes that anyone can run commands on
06:14:41 <fluffypony> yeah don't feel obligated to
06:14:47 <fluffypony> none of my nodes are running open RPC
06:14:51 <h2017> is there any benefit to the ecosystem if i do that?
06:15:08 <fluffypony> yes - a full node benefits the ecosystem
06:15:16 <h2017> yes of course
06:15:24 <h2017> i mean the fully public. is there benefit to *that*?
06:15:26 <fluffypony> a full node with an open RPC additionally benefits those users that choose to use remote nodes
06:15:31 <h2017> ok
06:15:36 <h2017> well fuckem
06:15:37 <h2017> hehe
06:15:41 <fluffypony> but it also increases your attack surface
06:15:52 <h2017> i will be running a full node but nothing more
06:16:04 <fluffypony> I think the most beneficial node to run would be one that can accept inbound connections (not RPC, normal)
06:16:23 <h2017> right. that's exactly my current plan
06:16:29 <h2017> i'm setting it up for testing now
06:16:41 <fluffypony> so if it's on your home network you would want to forward port 18080
06:16:50 <h2017> i ordered a dedicated box that i can run it on more permanently (and other stuff now that i've got this thing)
06:16:57 <fluffypony> cool beans
06:17:06 <h2017> fluffypony, already set that up for testing. i haven't opened up the firewall however on my pc
06:17:16 <fluffypony> makes sense
06:17:49 <h2017> i'm just taking it one step at a time but i do plan on accepting inbound
06:19:07 <h2017> i don't have an ssd so it's taking hours to sync. that's not really a problem for me. it doesn't matter how long it takes to me
06:19:24 <fluffypony> once it's caught up it'll be fine
09:52:00 <ErCiccione[m]> So, i'm spinning another node. I'm using --add-priority-node, which points to another of my nodes. Problem is that my syncing node keep banning the "prioritary" node. Any idea of why that could be happening?
10:27:13 <Inge-> ErCiccione[m]: how about just increasing outgoing connections and applying the banlist?
10:28:10 <ErCiccione[m]> Did that before the ban happened. Outgoing connections 64 banlist active and the latest version
10:33:42 <andreasromer> Will you HODL Monero or dump it for Tari when it comes out?
13:14:07 <asd1561> @h2017 you can run a node efficiently on a trash pc
13:58:52 <Barbelo[m]> i love monero :-)
17:39:34 <mechanic41turk[m> hi. I am running Orbot (always on, VPN mode) on my mobile device. Monerujo is unable to connect to any nodes. How can I solve this issue?
17:39:35 <mechanic41turk[m> Is there a monerujo group on matrix/telegram?
17:41:08 <mechanic41turk[m> OK. The wallet managed to connect to a node.
17:41:13 <mechanic41turk[m> I guess it was a hiccup.
17:57:35 <mechanic41turk[m> taking it back. it still fails to connect to a node.
18:43:06 <aum> hi all, I'm a developer, just getting started with monero
18:43:26 <p3rL> hi, good to know
18:43:58 <aum> question - I notice the linux builds of monero don't seem to offer systemd/initd support for having the daemon continually running
18:44:24 <moneromooo> There's no need for anything particular AFAIK.
18:44:28 <aum> should I take this as a sign that monero doesn't encourage running monero nodes separate to wallets?
18:44:43 <moneromooo> Monero nodes are *always* separate.
18:44:49 <selsta> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/utils/systemd/monerod.service
18:45:12 <aum> I want to have a node running in a virtual container on my network, and access that with wallets on my laptop, desktop and mobiles
18:45:38 <aum> selsta that's gold - thanks
18:46:49 <Inge-> For the next 8 years, every day there will be printed more btc than xmr.
18:47:32 <aum> other question - I read the investopedia article on monerov vs monero - is there a page with Monero's official response to that?
18:48:37 <moneromooo> monerov was a scam IIRC.
18:49:03 <moneromooo> Possibly both a scam and an attempt to get people to shoot down their own privacy.
18:49:04 <Inge-> I'm not sure it was ever taken seriously to warrant much of a response
18:49:28 <Inge-> from the get-go their claims of adding mimblewimble to monero was technically infeasible
18:50:01 <aum> ok
18:50:34 <Inge-> and the original developers disappeared
18:51:16 <Inge-> then some hangarounds tried to keep it going, but people had to transfer all their funds to Tradeogre where it was exchanged into the "new and improved monerov" which I'm not even sure what was...
18:51:22 <Inge-> if it was like an erc20 or something
18:55:29 <M5M400> wait - original monerov are ded now? :D
18:55:36 <M5M400> man, I wanted to get richhhh
18:55:57 <Inge-> You could probably be the only miner of it
20:09:07 <aum> another naive question -- have there been any reports of people running monero public nodes and getting harassed by government agencies?
20:15:41 <selsta> no
20:37:01 <h2017> trying out my node now. can't get it to work for incoming connections. i think it's an issue with my isp router's port forwarding. i don't think it's forwarding...
21:15:03 <aum> does a monero public node require tor
21:15:16 <moneromooo> No. But it might at some point.
21:15:51 <aum> so I'm ok just installing from the apt feed, and setting up /etc/monerod.conf and /etc/systemd/monerod.service and starting it up?
21:34:21 <h2017_> got it to work! it took rebooting the cable modem
21:34:38 <h2017_> no one said to do that. it was just the only thing i could think of to do
21:36:58 <h2017_> so the command i'm running is "./monerod --p2p-external-port 18080". is that all i need or is there something else too that i'm missing?
21:40:17 <aum> what's the syntax for setting up monerod node username/password in /etc/monerod.conf?
21:41:06 <selsta> rpc-login=user:pass
21:41:07 <selsta> I assume
21:43:05 <h2017_> selsta i don't need that because there's no external access
21:43:19 <h2017_> i need to make sure that you can get to it from inside my lan though
21:43:34 <h2017_> for rpc that is
21:43:49 <h2017_> p2p access is meant to be available universally
21:44:22 <h2017_> oh sorry you were ansering someone elses question. there is a beer bottle in front of my screen blocking half the text
21:44:25 <h2017_> no joke
21:44:27 <selsta> lol
21:46:04 <h2017_> i've got a new box ready to use as my server. i'm just testing with my desktop
21:46:29 <h2017_> i haven't set up the box yet. it's going to be a day or two max before i have my node permanently running
21:47:57 <h2017_> people can add honest node server runner to my list of good deeds now in my eulogy
21:49:49 <h2017_> crap i forgot the ban list
21:50:44 <aum> should a wallet app point to the node's main port or its rpc port?
21:50:53 <selsta> rpc port
21:51:09 <aum> thx
21:51:59 <aum> maybe i better write up a guide once I'm done, for 'how to set up a monero public node as a system service in debian-family OSs'
21:52:30 <h2017_> i think it would be good
21:53:23 <h2017_> aum that's why you don't make that port publicly avaialble unless you want to run a public node
21:54:05 <h2017_> it's only for  you to connect wallet apps with and for no one else
21:56:38 <aum> I'm seriously considering offering a public node -- it's consistent with my boutique data centre side-hustle, along with my I2P, Freenet etc
21:57:29 <aum> and I'm on 1Gb/400Mb fibre with no usage cap
21:57:34 <h2017_> aum i was too but i spoke to fluffypony about it last night and he said he didn't think there was a need. and the more public nodes there are disincentivises people running their own, which they should do (ideally).
21:57:49 <selsta> more public nodes are always appreciated
21:58:23 <h2017_> <fluffypony> I think the most beneficial node to run would be one that can accept inbound connections (not RPC, normal)
21:58:42 <h2017_> he didn't actually give reasons. i just interopolated what i think he was thinking
21:58:46 <aum> also, once it's up and running, the first thing I'm looking to do is learn the RPC API, and build up some python-based layers on it
22:01:31 <aum> what is port 18082 for?
22:01:53 <aum> i notice monerod listens to 18080 on 0.0.0.0, and 18081-2 on 127.0.0.1
22:01:59 <hyc> zmq rpc
22:03:43 <aum> so do all the '--' shell args for monerod also pick up in /etc/monerod.conf?
22:05:55 <selsta> should be the case
22:05:57 <dgoddard__> Typically programs take defaults from system config files, potentially overridden by user config files, potentially overriden by command-line switches
22:09:27 <aum> what about bools?
22:10:15 <aum> eg, for '--confirm-external-bind', should /etc/monerod.conf have 'confirm-external-bind=true', or '=1', or '=yes' or...?
22:10:40 <selsta> try just adding confirm-external-bind
22:11:44 <aum> ok
22:30:30 <h2017_> can you guys check that my node is listening properly on 18080 (ip address is 142.114.145.140). Why i ask is because a telnet test from where i work doesn't work, but that could be their networking setup preventing it
22:30:49 <h2017_> oto port scans from those port scan websites indicate that the port is open
22:31:49 <h2017_> the may know about monero peer to peer nodes and may just be blocking them (i wouldn't know but i need to know that my node is listening)
22:32:54 <h2017_> i mean they may be deliberately blocking connections to any port 18080
22:33:14 <dEBRUYNE> status should tell you?
22:33:21 <dEBRUYNE> status into monerod, that is
22:33:43 <h2017_> status is thumbs up. five in connections
22:34:00 <h2017_> so i think its my workplace that won't connect, which is fine. that doesn't matter
22:44:20 <h2017_> when i go to monerohash.com i get a the following message
22:44:32 <h2017_> Web Page Blocked!
22:44:32 <h2017_> You have tried to access a web page which belongs to a category that is blocked.
22:44:43 <h2017_> it was working a few minutes ago
22:44:50 <h2017_> i wanted to see my node on the map
22:48:11 <h2017_> once again it's my workplace. jesus
22:48:16 <h2017_> i was vpn't into them
22:48:22 <h2017_> it's their dns
22:48:47 <Mochi102> hashing bad
22:49:22 <h2017_> they must have a hate on for crypto
22:54:57 <h2017_> i think they are in the pocket of silbert
22:54:59 <h2017_> and musk
23:02:19 <aum> can the same wallet be used across several devices? laptop, desktop, mobile
23:04:25 <h2017_> i don't see why not but i don't know what classifies a wallet as portable specifically
23:05:10 <aum> ok, so I need to move the file from device to device then as needed?
23:07:02 <h2017_> don't quote me. you should be able to have the same wallet on different devices i think, but if you do that none of the wallet specific information will be updated (balances, address book stuff, new accounts), and if you do stuff on one machine then move to a copied wallet you would have to rescan the blockchain for balances
23:08:18 <h2017_> you never have to worry about losing your coins as long as you have the keys
23:08:41 <h2017_> all the metainformation won't transfer though
23:09:20 <h2017_> also i don't know what classifies a wallet as portable specifically
23:09:36 <h2017_> the gui has an option for portable wallet and i don't know exactly what distingues that from any other wallet
23:10:38 <h2017_> i need to find out too
23:13:23 <h2017_> if you choose portable wallet, it may just constrain options so it always forces you to point it at a remote node or something like that
23:33:52 <aum> so maybe I should cloud my wallet with a very strong password then
23:34:05 <aum> does the wallet encrypt also the node it uses?
23:48:38 <aum> anyway, good start -- got a dedicated LXC container now running a new Monero node, opened publicly, syncing quickly
23:48:46 <aum> as a system service
23:53:49 <h2017_> i don't have a container. i just have a service running as the monerod user. (just got it finished up almost the ame time  you posted about your LXC container)
23:54:07 <h2017_> node is only public for RPC
23:54:24 <h2017_> i now have to set it up on my dedicated device so it's not just being tested on my desktop