00:28:11 hi 01:43:33 Hey there 01:44:05 Anyone have an idea on how to set threads in the latest version of Xmrig? 01:46:11 ? 01:54:13 kiwi_12: are you using the config file? 01:54:21 that's all I know 01:54:38 I'm using the default one yes 01:55:01 nioc 01:55:20 Can't see an option where to set threads 01:55:33 there is a list of algos, look for rx and it should have the threads there 01:56:03 listed like [0, 1, 2, 3, etc] 01:56:55 that's how the threads are listed 01:57:15 Can't see an "rx" option anywhere 01:57:48 https://pastebin.com/u3Sm3934 01:57:51 My current config 01:58:29 Is there a documentation to that config somewhere? can't find one. 02:00:30 that looks odd, you can use the wizard on their site and it will make a config file for you 02:00:50 Already tried that one 02:00:55 The old one is deprecated 02:01:06 I see no threads for any algo with yours 02:01:43 I'm quite new to this. I'm not even sure what algo I'm running. 02:02:01 xD 02:02:17 rx the wizard will do all that for you 02:02:33 used to be listed as rx/0 02:03:02 Wizard is deprecated in the latest version. 02:03:12 nope 02:03:22 https://config.xmrig.com/xmrig 02:03:29 Doesn't even include randomx in the lsit 02:03:30 list? 02:03:58 xmrig.com and select wizard 02:04:41 it will set the number of threads that it thinks is correct for yoyr system 02:04:55 you can adjust from there if you want 02:05:23 Here's what that wizard generates 02:05:38 Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/a8d679f2898fbdc1544205f6f10fdd6e/pasted.txt 02:06:02 No algo/threads options. 02:06:16 once you get the output copy it and paste it in the config file after you erase the original file and save 02:06:34 close it and when you open the threads will be there 02:06:52 I already did that. 02:07:06 or mebbe you need to start it once to see the full config file 02:07:36 btw I am using windows, all I know :( 02:07:43 I'm using Windows too 02:08:09 I'm getting 460-500H/s on an Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8168 CPU @ 2.50GHz 02:08:23 Benchmarks say that.I should get a roughly 9K with this 02:08:32 always R click and run as administrator as this will give you significantly higher hash rate 02:08:52 Already doing that. 02:09:02 CPU is only at 50 02:09:11 that's why I'm trying to increase threads here 02:09:49 so you used the new config and started it? 02:10:04 Yes. 02:10:08 Same result/ 02:10:14 if so look at the fil and look for the threads 02:10:18 damn 02:10:31 Already sent you the file 02:10:38 Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/a8d679f2898fbdc1544205f6f10fdd6e/pasted.txt 02:10:45 No threads options 02:12:31 that's the wizard out put, once you paste in in the config file after deledting what was there, saving it, closing it, running the miner, only then will you see all the algos and the threads for them 02:14:20 I'm uploading a screenshot 02:14:21 Wait 02:17:15 https://imgur.com/a/C45Vcia 02:18:27 yeah 1 thread is running 02:18:44 did you close the config and then open it again? 02:19:00 that is still just the wizard output 02:19:10 Close the config? 02:19:15 You mean save the file, 02:19:16 ? 02:19:18 not the entire file that will be created 02:19:31 yes save file and close 02:19:38 then open again 02:19:58 Same content 02:20:01 Nothing changed 02:20:38 ok close everything including miner, start miner and then open file 02:20:53 if that doesn't bring it up then........shrug 02:21:11 Sure, sec 02:21:43 GOT IT 02:21:56 I've been running it from CMD 02:22:01 using a command 02:22:18 also the number of threads you select should be your L3 cache divided by 2, so if you have 12MB L3 cache then 6 threads is max 02:22:57 yeah I don't run with cmd 02:23:31 Alright, where can I see how many cache I have 02:24:35 easiest way is just to search your cpu on the intertubes 02:25:34 I'm actually using a VM from Microsoft Azure 02:25:39 Let me see 02:27:24 33M 02:27:37 that makes it 16? 02:28:26 yep 02:28:39 WAIT 02:29:01 azure is not gunna like you mining 02:29:43 I think 02:30:07 if you paid for it just to mine then you won't get back your $$ 02:30:17 It's free :) 02:30:31 well then good luck 02:30:36 That's the catch here 02:30:45 I have a lot of unspent credit there 02:30:48 free credit 02:31:19 I guess you will probably be ok 02:31:35 Free electricity, free hardware, just profit. 02:31:35 I have heard varying experiences 02:31:45 Yes, it's pretty expensive 02:31:59 The VM I'm testing this on costs 64$ a month 02:33:51 btw, I tried increasing the threads to 16 02:33:55 All I'm getting is 2 02:35:18 it should look like [0, 1, 2, 3, ........] up to 15 02:35:25 for rx 02:36:10 Alright. Have any idea how I could get the second core to work? 02:36:19 I think it's only using 1 core now 02:36:57 there is #monero-pools not that many people there at this time but maybe someone can help 02:37:30 Thanks for helping on the threads <3 02:40:05 yw 04:38:00 I don't see #monero-otc room 04:44:34 guess no matrix bridge 04:45:03 you are on IRC :) 09:01:35 There are multiple psychological hooks to keep Monero community members in place. Here is one: 09:01:35 https://vimeo.com/272691039 09:01:36 Notice that Scientologists don't stand on street corners saying "Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Xenu?" 09:01:36 Put yourself instead in the shoes of someone who spent $10,000 and 2-3 years of their life on their courses 09:01:37 And you get a bunch of bad sci-fi - you have two choices: 09:01:37 - either swallow a very bitter pill that you wasted a pile of money and a portion of your life 09:01:38 - or swallow the sci-fi, and from that point on, you will swallow _anything_ they tell you. 09:01:38 In the cult trade that's called "insider doctrine". 09:01:39 Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour of NASA, Howard Chu? 09:01:40 https://medium.com/@crypto_ryo/senior-nasa-engineer-calls-out-howard-chu-hyc-symas-monero-developer-on-being-a-fraud-db0b46688041 09:08:24 https://miro.medium.com/max/700/1*TUG4A1lJgaEi-0Bf19vJNg.png 09:09:06 phd = no typos ever 09:14:29 azy This is FUK spamming all over again 09:17:45 a good abbreviation for him. he seems to have some mental short comings as well as gifts, overall im grateful 09:36:17 Seems to be spamming a medium article written by fireice_uk 10:31:26 https://satoshilabs.com/trezor-tor-open-call.html 11:53:33 El-Aurian: Note that you can reopen your wallet simply via the 'Open a wallet from file' option 11:53:41 The GUI starting in the wizard is a bug in v0.17.1.5 11:55:30 eEBRUYNE ok, can you update the monero-gui bug #3256 with a link to the issue you mentioned? This doesn't however explain why log files have suddenly switched back to their default locations does it? 11:57:06 dEBRUYNE also, could you provide a response to my issue about monerod + monero GUI wallet multi-user workstation configuration best practise? - https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7079 11:58:59 If there's already wiki documentation for an installation procedure which can be actioned in a particular order that would be ideal 12:07:22 There hasn't been an issue created yet for the particular bug, as it is diffulct to reproduce and we haven't yet been able to determine the cause 12:07:40 Wrt the log files, that may be due to the settings 'resetting' 12:07:52 wrt? 12:08:45 With respect to 12:10:48 dEBRUYNE I'm sure it's the case that the settings have reset. The purpose of requesting multi-user configuration best practice is to ascertain the location and proper configuration of the settings, including log files 12:12:06 does the GUI Wallet rely upon the registries: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\monero-project\monero-core 12:12:16 I think the configuration parameters are stored there 12:13:22 If so, as I've detailed in monero-gui/issues/3256 both "blockchainDataDir" and "wallet_path" registries are blank 12:13:23 I am not sure if we have a best practice guide, as a lot depends on drive types and personal preferences 12:13:35 You had those customised in an earlier version, correct? 12:14:12 dEBRUYNE yes, although I configured it in v0.14 last year, so I can't remember how or where the settings were applied 12:14:46 As I said, a bug in v0.17.1.5 has caused settings to reset for some users 12:14:51 I guess it has affected you too 12:16:12 dEBRUYNE, that's fine. But I'm currently in a position where I have logs, etc, so if someone wants to create an issue for this bug I'm happy to work with someone today to isolate the issue 12:17:02 it would none-the-less be very helpful for a "best practice" to be established, so everyone has a baseline to work from 12:19:32 You're free to open the issue yourself fwiw 12:19:43 A developer will probably chime in later and ask questions to isolate the bug 12:22:28 dEBRUYNE the reason I suggested someone else create the issue, is because if it's a known problem, some research must have gone into the issue already, which would provide for a better fleshed out initial report 12:24:12 I'm happy to create an issue, if someone can give me some details about what it is that I'm reporting, because atm "v0.17.1.5 has caused settings to reset for some users" doesn't give me a line of inquiry to preemptively provide relevant logs, configs, etc 12:31:35 El-Aurian: did it happen after you updated to v0.17.1.5 or after a power loss? 12:37:01 selsta: the v0.17.1.5 was launched at 23:50 on 29-11 and it appears the GUI wallet was closed at 23:53 on 29-11, but monerod remained running in the background until 04-12 when the power loss occurred. 12:37:43 okay, so after v0.17.1.5 update it was still fine? 12:38:31 yes, but by the looks of it, the GUI wallet was only launched once after the upgrade. So perhaps this is an issue with configuration files being deleted are launch? 12:40:42 or being corrupted during wallet shutdown? 12:42:21 The storage logic is done inside Qt. We did not change Qt version in month. 12:42:50 were the configuration files/registries deprecated or changed in v0.17.1.5? which might explain why some users (perhaps using settings from <=v0.14.1.0 have suddenly been affected) 12:43:31 in months* 12:43:39 selsta is there documentation for the configuration files and registries for monero? 12:47:05 if I know where to look for settings, I could potentially find files which have been deleted. For example, there were a large amount of QMCL and JSC files added/changed in %LocalAppData%\monero-project\monero-core\cache\qmlcache on 29-11 and 04-12 12:47:18 El-Aurian: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qsettings.html 12:48:06 this is what we use, the interaction with the registry is done by Qt, so there is no documentation for it 12:50:05 the QMCL and JSC files may be the source of the issue, because I upgraded to v0.17.1.3 on 24-11 and there was no changes (which haven't since been updated anyway - based on date modified), but changes after upgrading to v0.17.1.5 on 29-11 and after relaunch on 04-12 12:50:44 did you skip v0.17.1.4? 12:51:05 selsta according to the log yes 12:51:44 ok, will try v0.17.1.3 -> v0.17.1.5 and see if I can reproduce 12:54:41 by the looks of it my upgrade schedule was v0.17.1.1 on 30-10, v0.17.1.3 on 23-11 (not 24-11, my mistake), v0.17.1.5 on 29-11 13:03:54 El-Aurian: I tried .1 -> .3 -> .5, changed settings at every version and can’t reproduce 13:05:35 In which case this is either intermittent or possibly a long-standing bug which we don't know the trigger of 13:06:05 what are the QMCL and JSC files for? 13:06:40 QML cache and Javascript cache 13:06:43 should be unrelated 13:09:10 ok, what log settings need to be applied in order to begin diagnosing this? 13:09:41 I don't see a guide offhand but basically tor.exe uses SOCKS to interface with other applications so really all you have to do is download and run tor.exe or the tor browser. It automatically starts a tor proxy on (I believe) port 9150, which should also be the default port when you enable SOCKS in the GUI 13:09:54 9050 is default 13:10:03 word thx for the correction 13:11:05 can I2P be used as well? 13:11:13 I don't understand what SOCKS does 13:13:56 I2P can be used too theoretically 13:14:44 SOCKS is just a protocol for programs to share inforation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS 13:14:56 Lyza, thanks 13:17:00 selsta, so to try and diagnose this issue, what log settings need to be applied? Also, is there any documentation for which config files or registry settings are used by monero? (I realise the registry interface uses QT, but what are the names of the settings Monero GUI Wallet or monerod are looking for?) 13:18:58 do you find anything under monero-core 13:19:56 are you talking about settings or documentation? Where would I find monero-core? 13:20:09 Registry 13:20:39 to debug this issue you first have to be able to reproduce it consistently 13:21:37 do you want me to pastebin my monero-core registry? 13:21:39 is this about the settings resetting after an upgrade? 13:21:46 yeh 13:22:05 fwiw I had the same issue with, I want to say the most recent 0.4 or 0.5 release, it asked me to set my language and stuff again 13:22:19 didn't seem big so I ignored it but it defintiely has happened more than to just this person 13:23:34 sorry I meant 1.4 or 1.5 13:23:39 one of the last two 13:24:05 I did not skip any releases 13:26:21 14:21 do you want me to pastebin my monero-core registry? <-- no, I don't think this would help 13:29:47 selsta there are 51 settings under monero-core, but as I mentioned in monero-gui/issues/3256 "blockchainDataDir" and "wallet_path" are blank 13:30:29 the parent monero-project is empty 13:31:25 and there's a QQControlsFileDialog key in monero-core with 6 registries 13:35:05 Lyza the reason I want to get this sorted is because it's a major UX bug. I want to be out telling everyone I know to buy Monero, but no-one is going to be happy if I sell it as "it's completely secure and private and even if your computer hard drive fails you can still recover using the 24 words", if the UI intermittently forgets about wallets 13:39:19 selsta, the reason I was talking about logs is because I could repeat the installation records (0.14 -> 0.15 -> 0.17.1 -> 0.17.3 -> 0.7.5) in the log on another computer, run through the upgrades and see whether the error repeats. But I want to make sure that in the event it does, the needed records for diagnoses are available 13:43:11 yeah mine didn't lose any wallets that's weird, just the language settings. I did have a wallet disappear a few versions back for... a few versiuons. I could open it manyally but the GUI dind't recognize it for some reason. But I remember a fix going in for that, and the wallet showed up again 13:44:13 do you remember the issue or fix details? 13:44:37 The wallet issue was something unrelated. 13:44:52 Off by one error that would sometimes hide one of the wallets, we fixed that. 13:45:15 I just deleted all my Qt settings, used v0.17.1.3, even changed language, started v0.17.1.5 and have no issues. 13:45:39 El-Aurian: I think for us to fix it it would be important a list of steps so that we can reproduce the issue ourselves. 13:45:51 I’m not aware of any Qt internal logs we can use here. 13:46:26 ok, do you want me to create an issue and attach my logs? 13:47:05 If you are able to reproduce the problem, please post a comment of the exact steps you used. 13:47:57 ooooh I see now I think El-Aurian had the wallets and such in a non-standard location so when everything got reset it didn't know where to look 13:48:53 I had everything in standard directories so it just picked up where it left off after I set the language again 13:48:57 The wallet quick view only looks at the default location as far as I know. If wallets vanished it sounds like hard drive corruption. 13:49:31 Especially in combination with a power loss. 13:50:02 I think Lyza is correct, the wallets haven't vanished, all the files are still there, it's just the client doesn't seem to know where to look 13:50:41 as I say monero-core "blockchainDataDir" and "wallet_path" registries are bank 13:50:44 blank* 13:51:04 what are the default locations for the "blockchainDataDir" and "wallet_path"? 13:51:45 Wallets are in Documents/Monero 13:52:28 wallet_path is the last opened wallet 13:52:38 if your settings gets lost it is normal for it to be empty 13:52:53 there's no Documents/Monero, however I haven't yet re-created a wallet 13:52:53 blockchainDataDir is only used if you specify a custom blockchain location inside Settings -> Node 13:52:59 it is empty by default 13:53:22 so both have no default 13:53:56 there may not be a registry default but my wallets absolutely defaulted to Documents/Monero 13:54:11 yes, that is hardcoded on Windows as far as I know 13:54:16 and not stored in registry 13:54:34 selsta, what I mean is, if those registries are blank, where does monerod/GUI wallet use as blockchain and wallet locations by default? 13:55:24 If wallet_path is empty (which it is by default), it will go to the language selection screen 13:55:43 if blockchainDataDir is empty (which it is by default), it will use the default blockchain location on Windows 13:55:54 C:\ProgramData\bitmonero\ 13:55:56 has monero always used registries (atleast since v0.14) or did it previously use config files and migratated to registry 13:56:08 We always used registries 13:56:24 on Windows 13:56:41 kind of surprised at that ngl 13:56:46 the registry use I mean 13:56:56 well it is what Qt uses on Windows 13:56:56 fuck windows, use linux! 13:57:12 we did not write custom persistent storage on all operating system 13:57:21 we have a portable mode where the registry is not used 13:57:41 yeah I gotcha, I just thought it was all stored in the cache file or whatever 13:57:58 nbd just surprised. glad the portable mode is getting worked on for sure 14:00:28 ok, so the power failure happened at 11:55 on 12-04, which is the last entry in %AllUsersProfile%\Cryptocurrencies\Monero\bitmonero.log, then the system rebooted at 15:09 on 12-04, which is recorded at %AllUsersProfile%\bitmonero\bitmonero.log 14:09:09 what's really odd is there's log entries in both locations at the same time \Cryptocurrencies\Monero and \bitmonero\ 14:10:56 I'll create a bug for this, and try and detail what I've found in the logs 14:13:26 selsta when you did the 17.1 -> 17.3 -> 17.5 test earlier was that using custom locations? 14:14:36 El-Aurian: I don't see what is odd, \Cryptocurrencies\Monero is most likely the default wallet location 14:14:51 \bitmonero\ is the default blockchain location 14:15:34 El-Aurian: wallet_path was kept, I did not try custom blockchain location 14:20:41 selsta, \Cryptocurrencies\Monero isn't the default wallet location. I've created \Cryptocurrencies\ to keep all the Cryptocurrency full-client blockchains in one manageable location 14:20:51 hello 14:21:07 I think the default wallet path is %appdata%\bitmonero 14:21:21 or Lyza said Documents\Monero 14:21:29 .bitmonero 14:26:51 El-Aurian: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/310746/configuration-of-the-my-documents-folder 14:27:21 The documents folder can be changed. 14:27:47 Yeh, I haven't changed the My Documents location 14:27:54 selsta, is there a log setting for recording when the monero-core registry is changed? 14:32:49 I don't think so 14:33:41 do we know what functions cause the registries to be edited? 14:36:48 It just seems to me that if this is a "default" issue, it's going to come down to some sort of poorly implemented "fail-well" method, such as if there's a registry read error, or something like that 14:38:50 like the old win98 fdisk issue, where you always had to "write and quit", because when he application launched it either deleted or corrupted the partition table, and so if you just "quit" it never had chance to re-write the partition table and resolve the corruption, so at next launch the partition table was blank 14:46:54 El-Aurian: maybe you can try deleting monero-core out of the registry 14:47:14 then use v0.17.1.3 -> v0.17.1.5 and see if it happens 14:51:58 selsta, I'm going to create a bug, upload the logs, registries, etc, and then repeat the installation procedure according to the logs, snapshotting the files and registry between each shutdown and update, and then if I encounter the same error, we can hopefully trace the cause 15:04:13 Why create a bug 15:10:34 marmulak, why wouldn't this be appropriate to report as an issue? 15:25:03 hi again 15:26:35 opening an issue is fine 15:37:05 Do you mean a bug report 15:38:45 yeh 15:49:41 selsta, you said earlier "If wallet_path is empty (which it is by default), it will go to the language selection screen", do you know where that logic is? 15:50:07 main.qml IIRC 15:53:19 because I've just noticed that there was a wallet language "persistentSettings" change on 12th November which was included in v0.17.1.5 - https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/commit/56e611480abcd2e02701961a5a4772ddbad4666d#diff-d188f41354c75d01783885a9ebda1165b23cdecc402c67e26cd67018de25176c 15:55:46 where's the logic for "first-launch" or the Wizard? (I'm wondering whether the wizard launches if language isn't set, and consequently reinitialises the blockchainDataDir and wallet_path) 16:09:07 El-Aurian: if something caused this issue it was this commit but there is nothing obviously wrong with that commit 16:11:50 e.g. `property string language: 'English (US)'` might be an issue if it has been previously set, but that does not explain why it only has issues on some systems 16:52:56 selsta isn't the issue that MoneroSettings: is being executed by something? - https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/2a6ad67f7791e1799cd1bb8e08d009be39077e18/main.qml#L1342 16:55:24 no, don't see why this is an issue 16:57:27 do you mean that you can't see why a language change would cause the blockchainDataDir and wallet_path to change? 17:00:12 under MoneroSettings there's 'property string blockchainDataDir: "" ' and 'property string wallet_path' so I assume MoneroSettings provides the defaults, which being edited by the commit I referenced 17:10:10 selsta are you able to show me where the logic for launching the wizard is? I'm wondering whether the language change has caused the wizard to relaunch and reinitialise the registry values because all of the defaults are lumped together under MoneroSettings in main.qml 17:11:55 If that's the case, I can create a bug report stating that is the issue which needs to be resolved 17:12:35 I don't see a bug here, this is just how QML works 17:13:02 how does QML work? 17:14:24 it's just declarative, monero settings should never relaunch as long as the program name is not changed 17:15:52 so in the event that the program name is changed, it would reapply all of those registries simultaneously? 17:16:28 where is the program name specified? 17:17:12 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/master/src/main/main.cpp#L220 17:18:30 because since either version 0.17.3 or 0.17.5 the shortcuts in my start menu moved from a folder named "Monero GUI Wallet" to "Monero" 17:18:57 which I realise isn't related to the compiled software, except it seems very co-incidential 17:18:59 that should only be installer related 17:20:16 doubtful it was v0.17.1.5 17:31:51 so where's the logic in main.cpp that causes MoneroSettings under main.qml to be handled 17:32:17 I can see qt\MoneroSettings.h is imported 17:32:20 https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/148d487988b67a66e559d60fe9b6151c725f3c6f/src/qt/MoneroSettings.cpp 19:08:00 dEBRUYNE, Lyra, selsta, I've created an issue for the apparent v0.17.1.5 upgrade client reinitialisation issue - https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7083 19:08:11 Lyza * ^ 19:08:29 El-Aurian: please open against monero-gui repo 19:09:19 but it's a monero-core issue 19:09:45 blockchainDataDir shouldn't be configurable by Monero GUI wallet directly 19:11:08 it is not a monero-core issue 19:11:15 or better 19:11:20 monero-core = gui 19:11:25 that's a bit confusing 19:11:50 but monero-core is the old name of the monero-gui 19:12:21 so what's monero-project/monero for? monerod? 19:12:48 the main cli monero software 19:12:53 monerod / monero-wallet-cli 19:14:03 and wallet_api which most guis depend on 19:16:28 yeh, ok. I'll move the content of that issue to monero-gui, but the current issue needs to reflect the requirement for monerod registries (blockchainDataDir and daemon{Flags,Password,Username}) to be configured by monerod via an api, rather than the wallet directly 19:22:48 selsta, can you check whether when you export [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\monero-project\monero-core] the order of your registry entries? Because I think that would provide an indication of possible chain of events 19:23:07 they appear to export in order of creation, rather than alphabetical order 19:23:20 I don't use Windows, so I can't 19:23:34 I thought you ran a test upgrade earlier? 19:24:44 I did on macOS, we had similar reports on Mac 19:24:51 but I was not able to reproduce 19:26:41 oh right, I also found some MacOS specific upgrades which might have also triggered a reset. I'll see if I can discover them again 19:53:44 I've created a monero-gui issue, and updated the previous bug to only relate to monerod - https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3257 20:06:05 selsta, this was the commit I found referencing IOS, although it was tagged for v0.17.0.1 - https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/commit/f5c5df7b677e10c78bddb2defa7b392bfe42696a 20:07:23 this is unrelated 21:31:02 This time on Linux: How can I debug "device not found: Trezor"? 21:32:15 So far, I've checked that it is visible via lsusb and set o+rw on /dev/bus/usb/001/007, verified a symlink /dev/trezor1 pointing there, ... 21:33:17 log-level 4 says device.cpp:86 Device not found in registry 'Trezor' 21:34:21 I also activated trezor bridge, but it doesn't seem that anything would actually talk to it, so I guess it's not required. 22:03:02 Hi y'all just found the repo for monero icons on the monello ecosystem githubb and didnt see any license info. does anyone know if its cool to use these icons in projects that use monero? https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-designs 22:03:19 fullmetalScience: how did you install monero gui 22:03:40 it is possible that the package maintainer compiled without trezor support 22:09:38 selsta: Was there a way to ask the binary if it had it built in? 22:10:26 afaik device not found Trezor means compiled without trezor support 22:11:07 try getmonero.org binary 22:29:40 Dammit, that was it and I now also remember that I had the issue on a different Linux distribution last year. Thanks selsta. I'll get in touch with the maintainer. 22:30:06 yea they just have to add protobuf to the dependencies 22:31:10 then it will be compiled with trezor dependency 22:31:21 trezor support