00:32:27 i was running a node for a couple of days with 2 threads mining, and i discovered some tx in my wallet, now i have 0.033 xmr, what is that? anonimysation? what can i do to receive that more often? 00:32:40 https://pastebin.com/aZM91cbn 00:34:32 Can't read atm (blocked by @%&#!$ cloudflare again) but are you claiming you aren't responsible ? 00:34:51 The blck reward is ~1.3, so that's not a block you found. 00:35:18 It's likely you sent that yourself, or published the address and someone was nice and you something out of hte blue (not super likely). 00:36:22 that address was never published, 00:37:01 can that be because of someone transaction was come through my node? 00:37:31 No, you can't "hijack" somone's tx :) 00:38:06 Bad seed rng? 00:38:09 Technically you can end up with a used address, but the chances are astronomically low. 00:38:20 Did you generate the seed using the CLI? 00:38:21 Unless that I guess. 00:39:07 yes, iwas started node and generate new wallet 00:39:20 In any case you should create a new wallet. Someone else has (had) access to it. 00:40:22 what is a best wallet for iphone? i get one and want to use it as cryptowallet for xmr 00:40:36 Cake wallet is good 00:42:02 from cake technologies LLC ? 00:42:14 someone recently mentioned getting a small amount in their wallet without knowing why 00:42:21 think a new user also 00:42:37 xtuh: yes 00:46:04 I can read the paste now. Was that wallet generated by monero-wallet-cli or another program ? 00:47:28 monero-wallet-cli 00:48:02 Which OS ? 00:48:33 ubuntu last LTS always updated 00:48:50 In a VM or bare metal ? 00:49:16 bare metal, but whats the difference? 00:49:46 A VM freshly booted might have no entropy, or a saved state. 00:50:06 I think those are old thngs, but you never know. 00:50:28 ok, thanks. 00:50:56 monero-wallet-cli uses /dev/urandom (OS PRNG) so on monero Linux it should be rock solid... 00:51:03 modern linux 00:52:44 When did you generate that wallet ? 00:53:53 Oh wait, when you said you mined, did you mean *pool* mining ? 00:54:17 nvm, still woulsn't explain the out. 00:56:39 no, i mean daemon mining with 2 threads 00:59:22 may it was "mixing"? 01:00:32 Oh I see what you mean. Monero doesn't work like this. You do your own crypto, you don't ask for someone to do it for you for a fee. 01:57:58 08:11:13 hey everybody, i have a couple of question. 08:11:13 1. regarding the CCS payout process. what exactly do we have to do to "complete a milestone" - who is going to verify our work, who do I have to talk to etc. 08:12:41 * alexanarcho[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/WkNMfOayJToXDmhbaAyunXpn/message.txt > 08:13:33 i have a monerod running and all. please contact me if you are familiar with the rpc, I would love to hope on a quick jitsi call, share my screen and get this sorted out 08:14:47 * i have a monerod running and all. please contact me if you are familiar with the rpc, I would love to hop on a quick jitsi call, share my screen and get this sorted out 09:37:00 first time here, already loving the welcome message 11:48:52 Hi 11:49:09 hello 11:49:39 I've just started mining 11:50:02 It's bad I didn't discover XMR along time ago 11:50:14 haha, feel the same about my timing 11:51:11 I wonder if its easy to exchange XMR to real money 11:51:44 Its gonna be amazing if PayPal support XMR 11:51:51 you mean fiat money :P 11:52:14 paypal doesn't even support real btc/crypto 11:52:28 you just have exposure to the price 11:52:38 but you don't own your coins and can't move them 11:53:05 so the few exchanges that support xmr are your best best from going from xmr to fiat, if you wish to do so 11:53:32 Deyaa: You can use, e.g., Kraken to convert XMR to fiat 11:54:00 What about the fees? 11:54:00 yea, Kraken is what i use for xmr 11:54:29 fees are negligible 11:55:24 Cool I'm going to check kraken 11:56:02 There is a strange this guys 11:56:44 I don't know why my gov. Block kraken I've to use VPN 11:56:52 what gov is that? 11:56:56 This is very strange 11:57:12 I'm living in Egypt we have now laws here 11:57:26 that's a shame 11:57:38 But why the government block kraken?? 11:57:49 check if kraken is allowing onboarding from egypt 11:58:05 AccessExcess: I'm collecting money to leaving this fucking land 11:58:25 I know it's shame 11:58:48 looks like kraken is a go from egypt from the kraken side 11:58:57 Thanks to u.s. supporting dictators 11:59:02 heh 11:59:29 where do you plan on going? 11:59:53 Turkey 🦃🦃 12:00:16 well, that's choice! 12:00:34 is that really a big step up from egypt? 12:00:41 ;) 12:00:55 No but .. it's easy 12:01:09 I don't wanna stand in line here 12:01:15 maybe just a stepping stone then 12:01:19 to someplace better 12:01:20 For euro visa 12:01:29 ah 12:01:40 don't worry, europe is in the shit now too 12:02:03 who isn't though? 12:02:03 Thanks to macron 12:02:26 Those fucking leaders wanna be dictators too 12:03:18 Even trump trying to hijack the power he makes remember how Hitler hijacked power? 12:03:20 why we need crypto 12:04:00 Cuz it's going to be legal in the future.. 12:04:37 You're not going to receive money for you payroll you gonna receive hashes lol 12:04:41 nothing will help at all, if majority of people are dump from propaganda around 12:07:01 It's not helping becuz the system didn't change yet capitalism still uses perto-dollar you have to make a war to change it to perto-crypto for example 12:07:35 OR MAKE SOMETHING UP LIKE COVID 12:12:01 what's perto-dollar? 12:18:12 Petroleum Dollar 12:18:51 The current official currency of the capitalism system 12:19:09 mmmm did u just suggest covid is made up 12:19:34 I guess I did 12:19:44 :-/ 12:20:36 why not ?? 12:21:05 This just like 2008 banks troubles 12:21:48 welp. I'mnot going to get into arguing that obviously real things are real. so. 12:22:04 You don't have to have evidences but you know it. 12:22:30 bro over a quarter million people have died from it in my country 12:22:38 just stfu 12:22:45 Every ten years the system makes its own crisis to remove the debt 12:22:52 did they? 12:23:13 Don't ask me ask china :D 12:23:29 nah, @ quater million people 12:23:29 charolastra I'm sorry are you asking me if people actually died? 12:23:34 I guess us setup china 12:23:50 y'all are nuts 12:23:52 no, i'm asking if they died because of covid 12:23:57 Lyza: I know that people died man 12:24:22 All Iy saying it's not an accident 12:24:47 okay I guess y'all got me there's a global conspiracy to fool everyone into thinking there's a deadly virus but it's all just to trick you into wearing a mask or whatever 12:25:23 so you're saying instead there was a global conspiracy to manufacture a deadly pandemic? cool cool 12:25:57 It's a real virus and a real death count but as I said the us made it up like 9/11 12:26:07 lmao what 12:26:11 does that even mean 12:26:32 nevermind. I got actual shit to do today. y'all have fun 12:26:33 9/11/2001 12:26:40 fucking covid bullshit 12:26:58 holy shit does literally the entire channel think covid is some sort of conspiracy 12:27:26 it does not matter what is it 12:27:29 The towers man was a conspiracy to go on war with iraq 12:27:32 it's just fucking virus 12:27:52 what's important, what stupid goverments do bc. of it 12:28:20 my government is literally hurting themselves over it. it's not a power play it's bloody incompetence 12:28:41 incompetence? I doubt 12:28:49 they just got more power and take some of your freedom 12:28:55 they will get what they want 12:29:06 while u scare in basement for that virus ;) 12:29:46 Hahahaha 12:29:47 also it looks like there are no other problems at all in the world right know, just covid 12:29:51 my freedom to what? there's no stay at home order. I see idiots without masks constantly 12:29:58 blackrat: it's not like that 12:30:03 why idiots? 12:30:17 u enjoying wear mask? 12:30:23 bc. somebody told u 12:30:33 The game the gov play is to make crisis every 10 years 12:30:34 I mean for one, yes, I do like the mask, becuase fuck facial recognition. but also, you know, not spreading a deadly pandemic 12:30:44 what tf is wrong with you people 12:30:48 deadly? 12:30:52 Masks are not very efficient in the hands of regular people. They just don't wear them properly 12:30:54 yes it kills people you fool 12:31:00 Leave masks to medical professionals 12:31:05 sech1 now there is a sane point. they sure dont 12:31:06 So they can make you sell your soul for white papers .. I mean money 12:31:08 many things kill people mister 12:31:20 but just because people don't use condoms effectively doens't mean they, you know, should just not use them 12:31:37 blackrat yes I take precautions against most of them 12:31:40 Condoms are 99% efficient though 12:31:48 1% for idiots who don't know how to use them 12:31:50 Lyza: then don't force other to do the same 12:31:50 sech1 only if you use them properly. just like a mask 12:32:04 blackrat masks require everyone to use them to be effective 12:32:18 Lyza: everyone will not like your style of life 12:32:24 I guess this is the wrong topic lol 12:32:37 Since I'm in Sweden and I didn't wear a mask a single day this year, I'm going to abstain from this debate :D 12:32:51 ;) 12:32:54 congrats on having a marginally competent government 12:33:00 didn't get sick so far btw 12:33:04 Take it easy guys you gonna die some day Tyler Dryden voice 12:33:12 yeah the infection rate there versus the US is uhhh, you know 12:33:29 yes, some die in the basement with mask :d 12:33:49 with 100 rolls of toilette paper 12:34:03 blackrat: lol 12:34:05 I can't believe people really act like being asked to wear a mask is some sort of oppression. the only person who could think that has never REALLY been oppressed in their entire life imo 12:34:56 blackrat: it's a self improvement and self destruction at the same time 12:35:32 Deyaa: so many people just fear life 12:35:50 for fuck's sake some idiots recommend washing hands :D 12:36:00 washing hands? oppression 12:36:16 no, bc. if they don't tell me, I will have shit on them whole life 12:36:28 so I am happy they wanna help me 12:36:43 nah if somebody asks me to wash my hands when I shit, they're oppressing me 12:36:47 blackrat: everyone fears life at some level with a different scope 12:36:48 my freedoms 12:36:53 to get shit on everyone, are more important 12:37:36 Deyaa: but some really too much, buy 100 rolls of toiletter paper 12:37:40 We living under they mercy of joy , pain and ... I forgot the 3rd element lol 12:38:25 blackrat: it's not only for his hand man .. I gues he has a lot of energy 12:38:35 That he must sink 12:38:47 Before explode 12:38:50 the issue is, that we ruin life of almost everybody, bc. some poeple can die from a virus 12:39:39 But if he uses 100 toiletter papers I think he should join nofap immediately 12:40:07 blackrat: I'm not afraid to die form a virus 12:40:44 yes, there are still some people ... 12:40:44 That first thing that came to my mind when I heard about cov was how to make a profit of COVID lol 12:40:49 blackrat: but i think it's pretty much agreed that if you let the virus go completely unchecked, you will get a break down of order and happiness to a much larger degree. i mean, health services will be ravished, plenty of people will die, and trust starts to diminish completely in the government. 12:40:55 we could have responded to the virus, kept people safe and economically protected. government,at least mine, chose to prop up business and throw people under the table, no surprise there, but to take that and suggest that we should just disregard people's lives in 100% the wrong reaction 12:41:19 midipoet exactly 12:41:35 midipoet: only what it would show, that health system is broken and goverment is useless 12:41:59 Lyza: governments is not always the real power 12:42:00 sure, but that doesn't mean you compound the problem with letting things go unchecked. 12:42:01 the health system is broken, but the fact that it gets overwhelmed in a pandemic is not actually a sign of brokenness 12:42:14 you don't build a system to support a load it only needs to support 0.001% of the time 12:42:37 youramp it up when it's actually needed, which is totally possible with a competent govt.keeping health services always at 10000% capacity would be nonsense 12:43:26 yes, so instead rule 100% of people 12:43:46 bc. 0,01% can die from a virus 12:43:54 most probably less 12:44:22 okay we get it buddy you don't give AF about others 12:45:05 The main point here was COVID a conspiracy .. well now you know how soldiers feel in war .. of the countries that the u.s. wage war on .. 12:45:24 very soon some 'free' money will come from 'sci-fi' organization to every country, that would be a good business 12:45:29 now I'm just confused 12:45:39 COVID is the same as what to remove debt 12:45:53 World wide debt 12:45:58 yep 12:46:07 and to take some more control 12:46:23 bc. u know if u give some money to somebody, they have to listen 12:46:32 blackrat: 100% agree 12:46:47 EU already wanna give like 750 billions for covid shit 12:46:53 that's a lot 12:47:04 sounds like adding debt, not removing it 12:47:20 well people will pay it, so 12:47:34 money from nowhere 12:47:46 yes that's literally what fiat is, you can make it from nowhere 12:47:58 it's actually good policy sometimes 12:48:13 Lyza well let me explain .. what would happen if you got a loan and you couldn't pay ... ?? How this money can go back to they system ?? Can you tell me 12:48:24 funny thing is that some organization, nobody voted for it, give u money and rules 12:48:49 Lyza: i'll add it was the only policy that aids diplomacy, as countries no longer had to go to war for gold and other resources. 12:48:54 Money is not the problem controlling people is the problem 12:49:09 imagine a world with fixed supply of money - there would be carnage between the haves and have nots 12:49:12 yes, but u control them via money a lot 12:50:03 blackrat: ? i don't understand what you are trying to say 12:50:09 do you know? 12:50:22 blackrat: that right but money nothing but papers 12:50:34 midipoet yes absolutely. none of these gold bugs or bitcoin maxis had to actually live through the gold standard so it's easy to imagine it as some sort of panacea especially if you have a view of the world where society is devolving and times in the past were necessarily better 12:50:48 Deyaa: that's true, but u can get food for exchange 12:50:54 relatively important 12:51:30 Okay but here is the question when happen if someone couldn't pay his loan 12:51:36 blackrat: 12:51:48 it does not matter 12:52:01 bank lose nothing, they did not give real value 12:52:07 just virtual numbers 12:52:09 people often try to compare government finances to personal finances but it's not really a useful exercise 12:52:14 He goes to jail but the money never go back to the bank 12:52:27 they will 12:52:31 So the debt still ON 12:52:57 What we going to do to remove that debt is go to war 12:53:10 war pretty universally increases the debt but okay 12:53:20 Or make something like covid 12:53:36 covid is good for these in power 12:53:57 Lyza: but also you get money from the defeated countries 12:53:57 create soem fear and show govermment's importance 12:53:58 US debt went up both after 2001 and even more after the 2008 housing market collapse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_National_Debt.png 12:54:12 btw. US does not have any debt 12:54:26 whole word use their dollars 12:54:32 Deyaa nah in the US, private corporations benefit from war that the government pays for. it doesn't really help the USG's finances 12:54:32 anytime they can print 12:54:43 Lyza: because they system is falling and they have to invent something new 12:54:59 The US DOES have debt, it's simply that they have lots of people willing to buy their debt 12:55:12 They trying crypto for example 12:55:39 They say we don't have to print money anymore 12:55:56 crypto will be good for them 12:55:59 they? 12:56:11 The leet 12:56:46 Elite-capitalists 12:56:58 Elite- tech 12:57:12 Elite petroleum 12:57:16 shrug I imagine the system seems to be working fine from their pov 12:57:18 Elite energy 12:57:49 Lyza the debt is so huge 12:58:29 They print money without a real exchange 12:59:17 shrug as long as people accept dollars it's guchi 12:59:31 That's why china and russia is making sure now to get a good amount of gold 12:59:44 yet they still use dollars like idiots 13:00:20 Thats right they are taking fees like crypto lol 2:54 PM btw. US does not have any debt 13:00:57 blackrat: they using dollars becuz their is enough idiots in the world still uses dollars 13:01:28 You can't change the system in one night stand lol 13:02:40 anyway I don't see a light ;) 13:02:59 My mom always said that money is a tool not a goal .. it turns out that she was right lol 13:03:14 oh yes, love your mom too :) 13:03:55 Yeah but she is with God now 13:04:09 I hope she is fine 13:04:32 or Devil 13:05:00 It's not cool man to make jokes about a dead person 13:05:07 how it comes? 13:05:24 dead means it does not exist more I assume 13:05:39 so it does not matter at all who is said about it 13:05:44 what 13:05:48 Yeah but we have memories for the people we love 13:06:05 They're still part of us 13:06:14 and? 13:06:20 nobody is taking them from u 13:06:29 also not everyone believes that "non-existence" thing. be respectful 13:06:48 even better if they exist 13:07:06 maybe they are using monero out there who knows 13:07:18 you are being incredibly tasteless 13:08:01 somebody tells you to stop talking about their dead mother you stfu and apologize 13:08:08 why? 13:08:20 dude fuck you and you're "why" 13:08:57 no idea really ... 13:10:46 blackrat: don't bother yourself it a matter of respect 13:11:10 Deyaa: what? I don't attack anybody 13:12:19 death is probably overrated :0 13:12:44 blackrat: do you know what happened after death? 13:13:43 let's keep it civil <3 13:16:34 binaryFate: it okay buddy 13:16:57 This is the first time for me here I'm glad I'm with you guys 13:27:23 Deyaa: no idea, maybe will know later ;) 13:28:14 How old are you buddy? 13:28:17 probably not, as I doubt my mind will be usable that time 13:31:03 like the universe 13:31:15 but don't remember much :) 13:33:34 Universe I see ... 13:34:50 U believe in nothing 13:34:57 Right?? 13:41:48 nothing? 13:42:02 what's that? 13:42:15 to be honest, there is not much I believe in 13:43:06 if anything 13:43:23 but I concede everything 13:43:55 of course not some stupid things like heaven :D 13:46:17 The question is, if monero is private, will god see my transasctions? ;) 13:51:31 a joke but, in the spirit of moving back on topic, a god's eye view of the Internet pretty much renders stuff like tor and i2p useless, so associating transactions with an IP address would be very doable. but that wouldn't break the on-chain security features :) 13:53:13 so even god does not respect my privacy? 13:53:19 blackrat: so you prefer to fear a webcam than god .. right ?? The bad news is you are a product of media machines 13:53:42 welp I tried 13:53:43 Deyaa: I don't fear a webcam, I don't have any 13:53:44 The god news is you follow the sheep 13:54:28 blackrat: generally a cam 13:54:59 'generally' is not important, as it's not in my life 13:56:11 God is great just try to reconnect .. 13:56:24 jaja :) 13:57:34 Anyway it's your life 13:57:51 probably not :) 13:58:04 maybe just my experience somehow 13:58:15 But when you die you gonna know the truth 13:58:16 but 'my' is weird 13:58:23 Deyaa: are u sure? 13:58:35 that I will know and that there is a trut? 13:58:43 h 14:00:08 Yeah god is gonna make you pay for your mistakes 14:00:14 lol 14:00:27 pay with monero? 14:00:46 or your lovely god will just punish me :D 14:01:32 if that will happen, I can complain about his broken creation 14:01:44 You gonna stay in hell for your mistakes 14:01:51 how long? 14:02:19 It depends on how much mistakes you made after the age of 15yo 14:02:27 interesting how u know all of this, who told u that? ;) 14:02:59 Quran 14:03:06 who is that? 14:03:20 some shaman from your village? :) 14:04:15 monero is not doing, allah is doing 14:04:47 allah that will be probably other one 14:06:41 It's media effecting you guys 14:07:15 The smarter media companies know how to work .. they don't take money for nothing .. trust me 14:07:19 Deyaa: I think this is off topic for this chat 14:07:47 I can recommend you other IRC channels 14:08:01 marmulak: you are right 14:08:25 That is out of the topic 14:08:29 yes, religious crap is next door :) 14:10:30 It's not crap 14:11:02 It's the truth 14:11:14 only one ... jaja 14:11:58 .g jaja 14:14:17 I hope that god gives you the power to find your way to the truth blackrat 14:16:13 please 14:16:18 it's 2020 14:17:24 how it comes that people still believe this kind of bullshit 14:22:18 humanity has gone backwards 14:22:30 Yeah buddy look at these idiots how has an imaginary friends?? 14:22:32 2020 isn't like the high point of human thinking or anything 14:23:00 idk but ancient Greek philosophers had better ideas than the modern man 14:23:10 but at least we have monero 14:23:17 Look how cool we are for denying our creator 14:25:00 The world is made out of explosions that I don't understand right .. like these media companies said to me . 14:25:22 I'm a modern man now there is no god 14:25:49 ;) 14:27:36 marmulak: some of them were really smart 14:27:47 without internet 14:27:57 Yeah 14:28:02 Without Google 14:28:29 people have now internet, information accessibile so easy and most of us are dumb 14:29:36 it's because information is not the most useful 14:29:45 it is like water 14:32:14 You know why most people are stupid ?? 14:32:26 u know I bet 14:33:19 Karl Marx said that capitalism uses women and children to weaken men that was 100 years ago 14:33:38 wow he really said that 14:33:58 Now they uses everything to weaken men to make you Their slaves 14:34:09 holy crap :) 14:34:21 Some people just think that slavery has ended 14:34:57 what about these without a woman or children? and what about women and children who makes them stupid? 14:35:25 marmulak: yeah he said that man 14:35:54 all are born stupid... men, women, children 14:35:59 marmulak: now u know The only Truth! :D 14:36:37 that's true btw. I was born, stupid, poor and ugly, then it get worse every day ;) 14:37:43 marmulak: only if you have a stupid parents / you did not work enough to understand the world and not putting the bullshit ideas into your head 14:38:44 saying one who believe in heaven and hell ;) 14:39:30 blackrat: why you don't understand that media is effecting people 14:39:59 what media told u about your god? 14:40:13 or maybe u was born with knowledge already? ;) 14:40:31 blackrat: I know that media told you that god doest exists 14:40:37 so much monero goin on 14:41:07