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kayabaNerve
Does the Monero wallet GUI support creating new raw addresses? As in, no payment ID and not a subaddress. I know the performance cost of this format; just prefer it for privacy.
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bauhauspen[m]
Sure, paste it here I'll check if your balance is still there.
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Franck[m]
How much space does a fully sync'd monerod takes?
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sethsimmons
~90GB or so
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Franck[m]
neat! thx
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sethsimmons
92GB for me at the moment.
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Franck[m]
I have 150GB available, so that's good.
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sethsimmons
You can always prune as well, which would reduce disk space needed to ~30GB or so.
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nioc
30GB only if you use pruning during initial sync
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jarkko
i'm a bit confused with tor and --tx-proxy. Am i supposed to just google around for finding suitable .onion address(es) for --add-peer?
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hyc
you don't need to use --add-peer
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hyc
there should already be onion addresses in the public peer lists
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jarkko
ok, thanks!
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selsta
jarkko: v0.17.1.3 has tor seed nodes, so you just have to add the --tx-proxy 127.0.0.5:9050 flag
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selsta
--tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050
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selsta
^ that is the correct syntax
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jarkko
wait.. i'm still running 0.17.1.1, thought it was latest
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jarkko
updated... now i can see some connections to 127.0.0.1:9050, so i suppose it works
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Alex_LocalMonero
LocalMonero is looking for a full time flutter developer, remote and paid in XMR.
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Alex_LocalMonero
PM me if interested.
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selsta
jarkko: enter print_cn
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selsta
it will show you if you have tor peers
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jarkko
nice.. have 12 ipv4 and 5 tor peers
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afk222
@moneromooo: understood, yeh I’m not going to be creating a new wallet for each user
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afk222
I’m just wondering what would be better
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afk222
Accounts or just addresses with labels on the main account for each user
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selsta
i think it does not matter
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afk222
Ah ok :).
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selsta
addresses might be better, then you can send out the whole balance
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selsta
with accounts you have to send from each account individually
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selsta
because they are like separate wallets
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afk222
Oh so if I used accounts
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selsta
but I don’t know what you are programming
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afk222
I wouldn’t be able to do
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afk222
Multiple input transactions
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afk222
Between accounts?
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selsta
yes
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selsta
you can’t use inputs from different accounts
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afk222
Ah okay. Then I’ll settle with addresses with labels for each user
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afk222
Also when listening for new incoming transactions on the wallet, would you recommend using tx-notify or the Monero RPC command to check for incoming transfers
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afk222
And I’m programming an application where Monero will be one of the possible deposit and withdraw options, so each user will be able to deposit/withdraw Monero and will require a deposit address.
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fluffypony
theoretically you could spend outputs from multiple wallets (I think) but that would be an extremely annoying transaction to construct and there's certainly no functionality to do that
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afk222
Yeh I figured, just wanna make it as easy as possible.
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afk222
Like when a user withdraws an amount and the amount withdrawn is larger than any balance in a single address, using the RPC transfer command will automatically choose which addresses to send from
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selsta
Lovera[m]: This will not broadcast your transactions over Tor
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selsta
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Lovera[m]
<selsta "Lovera: This will not broadcast "> Thanks selsta, I just find that i need to add tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050,10
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Lovera[m]
<selsta "see
reddit.com/r/Monero"> Thanks i will read it
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selsta
yes
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FenderQ
thanks dEBRUYNE
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dEBRUYNE
np
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PingMan747
Hello everyone
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PingMan747
Does anyone happen to have any idea what this error might indicate
pastebin.com/dstKT01T
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PingMan747
I am trying the reproducible build script with Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver in a VM but it seems to always fail. I am using the LXC setup
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PingMan747
I didn't really deviate from the instructions at all so I dont exactly know what the issue might be
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moneromooo
Vaguely looks like networking issues. Check whether something might deny networking permissions.
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PingMan747
Could that be if it happens after the script has been running for a while
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PingMan747
It seems like it gets a lot done before that specific error happens
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PingMan747
Could of course be something about the LXC setup that I dont understand, havent really had experience with it
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PingMan747
It all makes sense now
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PingMan747
Even docker doesn't work for me
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scoobybejesus
what's the docker error?
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scoobybejesus
what's your host system?
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PingMan747
I am running Ubuntu 18.04 in virtualbox on MacOS
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PingMan747
Let me get that error for you in a second
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PingMan747
Sorry this is taking a bit, should be any moment now lol
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needmoney90
This is IRC, you have all the time in the world
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PingMan747
What on earth is pastebin doing
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PingMan747
It lets me upload this thing then it says removed by admins or something
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PingMan747
I wonder if theres a better alternative to it
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PingMan747
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PingMan747
I included some stuff that went down before the error incase it helps
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scoobybejesus
are you running this with the user `gitianuser` that you have added to the sudo group? i'm kinda thinking it's the setup steps that were missed because the instructions aren't exactly in a tutorial fashion
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PingMan747
I am running it as gitianuser yes
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PingMan747
And I added it to the docker group which if I understand should do it?
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PingMan747
Unless theres something im missing
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scoobybejesus
docker group and sudo, i think
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PingMan747
It says docker group grants privileges equivalent to root user
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PingMan747
On the docker website linked in the README
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Lovera[m]
<selsta "yes"> Hi again selsta, sorry i have one more question... Regarding "Anonymity Networks with Monero" when i use --tx-proxy tor,127.0.0.1:9050 Do I need to specified a peer over tor? Something like --add-exclusive-node rveahdfho7wo4b2m.onion:28083
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scoobybejesus
mine is in docker and sudo groups. maybe unneccesary? not sure
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selsta
no this is not necessary with v0.17.1.3
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Lovera[m]
<selsta "no this is not necessary with v0"> Oh Thanks
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selsta
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selsta
PingMan747: ^ are the steps I use
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PingMan747
Thank you selsta
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scoobybejesus
do you get an output from docker ps ?
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PingMan747
Yeah
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PingMan747
Gviing it a go with additional steps in selstas paste
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Lyza
so I've got a question about tor / i2p with d++. in particular, when a transaction is relayed over an anonymity network, what does the first peer to receive the transaction do with it? like, is there a stem phase that goes exclusively through tor / i2p, or does it get stemmed over ip4 by the receiving node?
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selsta
depends on if you use the disable_noise option
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Lyza
lets say I dont
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selsta
AFAIK it gets sent to two Tor / I2P peers and these peers relay it using Dandelion++ to clearnet.
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selsta
there are also randomized delays and noise to prevent timing / isp packet attacks
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Lyza
so origination --> anon peer ---> anon peer ---> clearnet peer? or do you mean the originating node sends it to two anon peers, who both relay over ip4
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selsta
"or do you mean the originating node sends it to two anon peers, who both relay over ip4" <-- yes
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Lyza
alright cool, thank you. so if I receive a transaction from an anon peer, I know it in fact originated from that peer, is that correct?
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selsta
you don’t know who the peer is
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selsta
but yes, you know that it originated from that peer
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Lyza
okay, cool. so, I'm noticing on my node that I have outgoing and incoming anon connections that have the same peer ID. So, if I receive a transaction from an anon peer and am also connecting to their incoming address, and can see that the peer IDs match, then I know that the transaction originated with whoever owns that i2p / tor address?
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selsta
afaik you can’t be connected to an outgoing peer that is also connected you
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Lyza
I currently am
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selsta
unless there is a bug, vtnerd will know that
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Lyza
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Lyza
I highlighted the ones that are the same in cyan / red
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selsta
what does sync_info show?
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Lyza
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selsta
moneromooo: do you know if a new peer id gets generated per connection?
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selsta
Lyza: would open an issue on github
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Lyza
yes I can open an issue
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moneromooo
Yes. One does not.
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moneromooo
Except cross zone.
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PingMan747
Unfortunately no luck with those steps either selsta
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PingMan747
Not sure what to try now, might let the issue rest for a bit
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selsta
do you have a firewall enabled?
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PingMan747
I dont have setup anything on it, its just a clean ubuntu install
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scoobybejesus
you get 'inactive' with sudo ufw status?
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scoobybejesus
just to double check
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selsta
weird, I also use these steps on a fresh ubuntu 18.04 machine and never had issues
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PingMan747
Yes, it shows inactive
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PingMan747
Do you guys use desktop ubuntu or server? And 18.04 bionic beaver right?
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scoobybejesus
selsta, have you had successful inside a virtualbox vm?
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PingMan747
Yeah I use virtualbox
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scoobybejesus
success*
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selsta
PingMan747: afaik server ubuntu
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selsta
scoobybejesus: did not try in virtualbox, I found it to have awful perfomance on macos
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selsta
usually connect to a VPS
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PingMan747
I was wondering if buying VMWare would be worth it
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selsta
it is free now
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selsta
on Mac
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PingMan747
oh?
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selsta
yep, though you have to create a vmware account
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PingMan747
I suppose its worth trying a different setup with similar steps
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PingMan747
And troubleshoot more if theres still issues
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scoobybejesus
vm's have a lot of magic under the hood. it's possible that the build simply won't work in that environment
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PingMan747
Yep
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PingMan747
They just are so convenient
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selsta
"Fusion 12 Player for macOS 10.15+"
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selsta
is the program
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PingMan747
Ill take a look
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selsta
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selsta
talks a bit about peer_id, inbound connections becoming outbound connections sounds like something we want to avoid
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selsta
at least with the same peer id
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hyc
I was frequently seeing the same peer id on in and out tor, but usually the out would drop after a while
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Lyza
yeah 100% agreed. This issue even talks about possible solutions. Do you still want me to submit a new issue or should it just be dealt with under 6380? I can post my screenshots there instead
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selsta
comment would be fine too I guess
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Lyza
even if it drops the association lasts until the peer ID rotates which rn seems to only happen when monerod is restarted
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Lyza
Peer ID doesn't even seem super necessary over i2p from what I'm reading in this post. peer IDs prevent self connection, but that's only going to happen over i2p if the user misconfigures the daemon
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Lyza
selsta I went ahead and opened a new issue and connected it to the previous issue
monero-project/monero #7004
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selsta
might also want to tag vtnerd has he wrote the majority of the tor / i2p code
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Mochi101
moneromooo, I have something strange happening...
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Mochi101
I have a successful tx on an address using the wallet rpc and then later on... maybe 15 minutes later to the same address it tells me WALLET_RPC_ERROR_CODE_WRONG_ADDRESS
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Mochi101
nvm moneromooo... seems I wasn't at the latest release... :(
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Mochi101
I thought that I was.
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mawk
can I extract address labels from a wallet file? the wallet file wasn't properly closed so I cannot open it with the GUI
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selsta
try restarting computer
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selsta
or is it corrupted?
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mawk
it's corrupted yes
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mawk
my ssd died and remounted read-only while the wallet was doing something
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mawk
actually the ssd died because of downloading the blockchain, bad bad monero
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mawk
or bad bad btrfs, alternatively
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mawk
what's the difference between OutProof and SpendProof? isn't OutProof better since it can give the amount and so on?
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Ymgve
are there any known, empty private keys from the pre-ringct days? I want to figure out how signatures work, but feel like I'm missing half the puzzle only working with public keys
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dEBRUYNE
Ymgve: If you spin up a private testnet, it will start with non-RingCT outputs
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Ymgve
ah, cool, might try looking into that then
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ForeverNoob[m]
dEBRUYNE: monero-gui-v0.17.1.4 works for me. Though suppose you start the client + daemon and then in the middle of sync quit, does it have to start the sync from the beginning once you start it up again?
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ndorf
no, it will continue where you left off. provided of course that you quit cleanly and didn't kill the process, which could (i think?) corrupt the db
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ForeverNoob[m]
ah got it, yeah I quit cleanly.