07:49:32 <mawk> the new GUI version doesn't seem to want to start on my machine, using linux with KDE, it says this then nothing: 2020-11-09 07:49:21.748 W Qt:5.15.2 GUI:0.17.1.3-158e0c3 | screen: 1920x1080 - dpi: 96.1263 - ratio:1.10899
07:49:36 <mawk> previous version works fine
07:50:01 <mawk> probably I'm not the first one
07:55:39 <Inge-> I've ... never really used the GUI much. I'm too happy with the control I get from CLI
07:59:55 <mawk> but it's pretty!
08:04:58 <dEBRUYNE> mawk: We're aware of the issue, please downgrade to v0.17.1.1 temporarily
08:05:57 <mawk> ah nice, thanks
08:36:12 <mawk> also something with the previous v0.0.17.1.1, I've never been able to close the GUI properly, always had to kill it
08:36:17 <mawk> maybe that's fixed in new version
08:36:50 <selsta> mawk: you sure that was with v0.17.1.1? afaik that bug existed in v0.17.1.0
08:36:56 <mawk> yes
08:37:12 <mawk> I can try with loglevel to max to verify
08:37:23 <mawk> if there's an option for that
08:38:06 <mawk> well of course observer effect, when I try to do it with log level max it closes properly
08:38:08 <mawk> lol
13:18:17 <sethsimmons> Thanks for slaying that Beam director spouting falsehoods on Twitter selsta
13:18:32 <sethsimmons> Didn’t even realize they don’t have a better protection or anything 😂
13:18:50 <selsta> he claims they have dandelion++ but from first look they just have regular dandelion
13:19:22 <selsta> lol him claiming lelantus helps against ip getting leaked
13:19:44 <dEBRUYNE> '"Deanonymization" for thee, but not for me'
13:36:33 <binaryFate> never expect honest constructive discussions with premine creators
13:38:41 <sethsimmons> Yeah the combo of fireice and Corey selling this should tel you all you need to know
13:39:01 <sethsimmons> <binaryFate "never expect honest constructive"> Oh I didn’t try constructive discussion with him, he’s one of my few mutes/blocks
14:25:50 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Anybody got a link to "selsta versus Beam director" on Twitter?
14:58:34 <sethsimmons> https://twitter.com/selsta541/status/1325780323200806913?s=21
14:58:55 <sethsimmons> https://twitter.com/selsta541/status/1325780149376327681?s=21
14:59:05 <sethsimmons> <xmrmatterbridge "<rbrunner7> Anybody got a link t"> ^
15:46:24 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Thanks!
16:38:44 <Lyza> anyone know who runs the moneroti* i2p node? wondering if it's a core team member. it's not listed at github.com/i2p-zero/i2p-zero/blob/master/mipseed.md but it's the only node I can connect to reliably other than the two selsta runs
16:48:03 <pigeons> anyone have a rought estimate of full node daily bandwidth usage at defaults?
17:08:12 <gingeropolous> Lyza, spn* isn't availalbe?
17:11:44 <Lyza> gingeropolous I just double checked by adding spn* as a priority node. I saw it pop up as attempting a handshake, but the connection was not successful
17:12:03 <gingeropolous> hrm.
17:12:09 <gingeropolous> lemme try turning it on and off again
17:12:48 <gingeropolous> or off and on again
17:12:51 <gingeropolous> anyhoo, it restarted
17:13:00 <selsta> Lyza: btw, I know you don’t want Tor but in the last 24 hours with I2P, Tor inbound and only Tor outbound I did not have a single "lost connection to outbound..."  message
17:14:30 <selsta> it is quite usable already
17:15:42 <Lyza> gingeropolous still can't seem to get past "before_handshake" wen connecting. selsta I may well end up biting that bullet but honestly it's been perfectly usable with a few i2p peers as priority nodes
17:16:07 <Lyza> still maybe worth it just to have more peers avail
17:16:15 <gingeropolous> knaccc, any idea whats wrong with my mipseed?
17:16:26 <hyc> my node is now on i2p in addition to tor
17:16:39 <selsta> try tunnel-control.sh router.reachability
17:16:52 <selsta> tunnel-control.sh router.isRunning
17:17:09 <hyc> my longest-lived tor peer has been connected pretty much the entire time this monerod has been running
17:17:09 <gingeropolous> says OK
17:17:21 <hyc> my longest lived i2p peer, about 1/10th that
17:17:24 <Lyza> I feel like router.reachability does work tbh. Mine says firewalled even though I'm 99% sure it's not
17:27:38 <mawk> 2020-11-09 17:26:13.460 I ----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 2226958 what does that mean
17:45:48 <Lyza> means there were two blocks produced for that height. two competing chains, if you like. the daemon keeps these blocks for some amount of time even if they're likely to become orphaned, just in case of a re-org
17:57:58 <mawk> ah I see
21:38:09 * ForeverNoob[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LZnJhOuvWbEkdWDRlhsYBPWD/message.txt >
21:39:31 <ForeverNoob[m]> ...a lot of CPU resources :p
21:43:35 <ForeverNoob[m]> ok yeah v0.17.1.3 seems definitely borked here
21:43:56 <dEBRUYNE> ForeverNoob[m]: Your text doesn't show up
21:44:34 <ForeverNoob[m]> dEBRUYNE: what do you mean? Here? Can you take a screenshot?
21:44:43 <dEBRUYNE> * ForeverNoob[m] sent a long message
21:44:46 <dEBRUYNE> ^ It shows like that
21:45:04 <ForeverNoob[m]> huh I thought this was a Matrix room
21:46:11 <ForeverNoob[m]> dEBRUYNE: ah yeah so this is a Matrix room and you're connected via an IRC bridge. For long messages (usually multiline) the matrix homeserver makes the message into an external paste.
21:49:49 <nioc> I see the link
21:49:54 <dEBRUYNE> Can you cut up the message such that others can read it?
21:50:00 <dEBRUYNE> Or use paste.debian.net to paste it
21:51:40 <ForeverNoob[m]> I mean, that matrix.to link or whatever is really not different from that pastebin, but sure: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1170670
21:52:13 <ForeverNoob[m]> nioc: You're connected via the IRC bridge too.
21:52:38 <nioc> I am on irc directly
21:52:50 <nioc> just irc
21:55:23 <ForeverNoob[m]> yeah but what you're seeing is an IRC channel which is in fact a bridge to the Matrix room (#monero:matrix.org)
21:56:00 <nioc> the martix room is bridged to IRC :)
21:56:04 <dEBRUYNE> ForeverNoob[m]: What linux distro are you using?
21:56:13 <ForeverNoob[m]> nioc: what is this channel called that you're in right now?
21:56:23 <nioc> #monero
21:56:27 <ForeverNoob[m]> dEBRUYNE: Ubuntu 18.04
21:57:07 <ForeverNoob[m]> nioc: aah ok so the official #monero channel and the official Matrix monero room got bridged :D
21:57:18 <ForeverNoob[m]> been a while since I was here last time
21:57:55 <nioc> I'm only on irc so have no idea how anything else works
21:57:59 <dEBRUYNE> There's an issue with .3 on Ubuntu 18.04
21:58:07 <dEBRUYNE> .4 should be out within 24 hours, I'd suggest to wait for that
21:58:19 <ForeverNoob[m]> ok, will do.
22:02:11 <ForeverNoob[m]> nioc: most likely from your side it looks like there's a user called @appservice-irc:matrix.org which then relays all messages sent in this channel into the matrix room. Having said that, you should really try out Matrix, it's a pretty cool protocol and this is a reference webapp that speaks it: https://app.element.io/ (though there are desktop apps as well: https://matrix.org/clients-matrix/)
22:03:32 <nioc> ForeverNoob[m]> @forevernoob:matrix.org  is what I see
22:04:55 <ForeverNoob[m]> isn't there a @appservice-irc:matrix.org user there in the channel though?
22:05:30 <nioc> not that I see
22:09:40 <ForeverNoob[m]> hmm, seems I'm misunderstanding Matrix <-> IRC bridging then
22:32:59 <algo_max[m]> Does anyone know where one can find cake wallet's source code? Their site says it is open source, but doesn't provide a link and I can only find an old github repo with the last commits from 2018..?
22:36:18 <algo_max[m]> oh I just found it.. there's a small github icon at the bottom of their page, right between telegram and instagram :/
22:38:57 <Lyza> so far my outbound i2p connections are mad stable with 0.17.1.3 :D
23:17:59 <nioc> \o/
23:36:33 <afk222> Hi, I’m making an application where Monero will be a possible deposit option
23:36:42 <afk222> For each user I’ll require a deposit address
23:37:06 <afk222> Would it be wise to call to Monero-wallet-rpc to create a new account or address for each user on the main account
23:37:34 <afk222> I know addresses can have labels on each Monero account just wondering what any advantage of either option is
23:37:43 <afk222> And whether it’s intensive to create an account for each user.
23:44:28 <moneromooo> It's not very expensive unless you create lots of them. For comparison, creating a new wallet in monero-wallet-cli pregenerates 10k of them.
23:50:01 <Lyza> gingeropolous spn* is back :)