freenode #monero

29 Oct 2020

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• 01:48
  majonyemima[m]
  What’s more recommended for crypto and why? Ubuntu or fedora? Does it make a difference which type of crypto? Sorry if OT. I could ask this in several groups. DM responses would be appreciated if this is too OT.
• 01:48
  majonyemima[m]
  On the Getmonero.org it mentions both distros, but I notice bitcoin tutorials just say “Linux” in a general sense. So, I just wanted to know what experiences you’ve had, esp as a newbie. I have Win10, but will most likely remove that for obvious reasons.
• 01:56
  Copenhagen_Bram
  I think you'll have a pretty similar experience whether you use Ubuntu or Fedora.
• 02:50
  yanmaani
  ^
• 19:57
  yanmaani
  Does Monero have an equivalent of "coin days destroyed"?
• 19:58
  binaryFate
  no, since you can't know which coins are actually spent
• 20:00
  binaryFate
  you could draw a uppper and lower bounds by picking the oldest and youngest members in all ring signatures but the range would be enormous and completely meaningless
• 20:05
  yanmaani
  And you couldn't see the quantity either, right?
• 20:05
  binaryFate
  yes, also that :)
• 20:06
  yanmaani
  If you could see the amount, I think it'd be possible. Just handle each transaction probabilistically. But hmm, yes.
• 20:06
  yanmaani
  So there's no way to reliably tell how many outputs are dormant then either?
• 20:46
  dEBRUYNE
  No, because an output could get included as decoy
• 20:46
  dEBRUYNE
  Whilst not actually being spent
• 20:47
  dEBRUYNE
  So it would falsely influence any conclusion
• 21:24
  moneromooo
  You can know how many outputs are unspent, by subtracting the number of rings from the number of outputs created.
• 21:25
  moneromooo
  Some outputs are 0 amount sent to random addresses though.
• 22:03
  yanmaani
  dEBRUYNE: assuming the decoy selection is vald, that'd be fine, but the lack of value info is a deal breaker.
• 22:03
  yanmaani
  and there's no way to approximate it?
• 22:48
  xmrmatterbridge
  <sp00pycrypto> hello
• 22:51
  dEBRUYNE
  yanmaani: No, not really
• 22:51
  dEBRUYNE
  At least nog in a reliable way
• 23:17
  yanmaani
  nice
• 23:55
  gingeropolous
  I AM CHANNEL OPERATOR. HEAR MY OPERATIONS.
• 23:56
  gingeropolous
  (cue spinny head thing from tron)