02:54:49 Is there a way to arrange funds kept in different accounts or do the corresponding tokens get locked to their original account? 03:15:45 now by account do you mean subaddresses? or the main 4xxx address? 03:22:34 its so cool the way its setup with you main address retrieving the whole wallet, the wallet having the many accounts each with sub addresses. im just learning it all and wow its awesome 03:23:46 or rather with the seed phrase you get your whole wallet. 03:26:27 hi 03:26:35 i was wondering i need some help 03:26:37 with the app 03:27:24 which app are you talking about? 03:28:38 monero gui for desktop 03:28:48 What do you need help with? 03:29:31 i cant connect to my node 03:30:03 never mind it coneccted 03:30:09 dont know how 03:30:19 but its showing my balance 03:30:28 thanks man 03:30:37 didnt nean tio waste your time 03:31:06 is cake wallet not secure or just not as anoymous? 03:32:31 I haven't used cake wallet personally but I know it's a trusted wallet within the community 03:33:37 Should be secure and private if you use it properly 03:42:55 my scripts seems to have peeked at 125 AHPs 03:43:58 im debating if its worth it to make a more nuanced AHP detector script 03:44:44 like, i think i can create a dummy node that would go through and try to sync to each peer 03:45:06 the dummy node could monitor the main node to see when blocks should come in 03:45:34 if the current peer doesn't send that block data, then they are presumably an AHP 03:46:29 might finally get to use that block-notify feature 03:47:46 i thought about the whole send a transaction and see if it gets mined, but that'll add up 04:19:14 algo_max[m]: accordibg to the guys working on it, it will be possible to see that some btc took part in swap semantics - but with Taproot it should be possible to be indistinguishable from other transactions (tjeir claim). 04:20:57 sethsimmons: cool numbers. although the speed increase is ... limited for going 40x on peers 05:04:01 Hi, trying to prune the db 05:04:16 Aborted the process in the middle of the job 05:04:19 And got this: 05:04:22 https://pastebin.com/4uw3Lp7z 05:04:43 Any suggestions how to overcome it? 05:12:38 And yes, the blockchain is on an SSD, KVM cannot provide the info on the drive though 05:18:26 Need help with monero gui wallet 05:21:06 Any support here? 05:27:02 yea what you need 05:30:26 Monero GUI wallet takes up 91% cpu and gets stuck on opening wallet 05:30:32 gingeropolous: The account system of the wallet, it uses subaddresses internally, but it tracks transactions and funds individually. Is there a way to tell the wallet to direct the funds to another account, except for actually sending them back to a different subaddress as a transaction? 05:30:44 Did you let it sync completely 100% 05:31:04 it can take time 05:31:08 Could also be OpenGL incompatibility 05:31:20 if syncing and errthing all done and it's still using cpu make sure it's not mining 05:31:29 marmulak I cant open up the wallet at all 05:31:52 It gets stuck on ''opening wallet'' 05:32:02 try in a terminal "QMLSCENE_DEVICE=softwarecontext monero-wallet-gui" 05:32:14 Is this a VM? 05:32:19 * try in a terminal "QMLSCENE_DEVICE=softwarecontext monero-wallet-gui" 05:32:39 Nope 05:32:56 It also doesnt allow me to create a wallet. the button simply doesnt work 05:33:31 Did the command I said work, it usually is for VMs but it may work here 05:33:49 No command not found 05:34:14 Where is the wallet? 05:34:51 desktop 05:36:10 I forgot to ask I guess, is this Windows or Linux? 05:36:24 windows 05:36:58 Then I don't know if my workaround would help 05:38:10 I reinstalled multiple time. And its the same problem 05:38:12 It probably takes a while to sync 05:38:31 I have blockchain downloaded 05:38:37 I synced Monero for the first time a couple weeks ago, it took 2 years in total 05:38:44 hmm 05:38:54 2 years? 05:38:59 off and on lol 05:40:14 I know if there isn't a functioning GPU the program could use and it tries to run OpenGL on the CPU it can cause high resource usage so that I was putting instructions for 05:40:31 As soon as i open the gui. CPU is all gone 05:41:32 The daemon doesn't start instantly if I remember correctly, so it shouldn't be the daemon, and if you already set it to the background it would be running even if the wallet is closed 05:42:08 I don't know how to set the enviroment variables in Windows either 05:44:33 The whole gui is buggy. The create Wallet buttom doesnt do anything for me 05:45:43 What does Task Manager say? 05:45:57 What processes use the most CPU as it opens 05:46:46 monero-wallet-gui memory 200+MB 05:46:48 i've been wondering whether it's better to stop running a node from my primary laptop and instead run one from a VPS, then linking my wallet to that node. i'm not sure how good it is for my laptop to be using over 100%> in CPU resources every morning to sync. would it be better to set up on a VPS so I can just detach the daemon and leave it running? 05:47:47 I suppose this would be less secure, though, as I'd need to then ensure an additional device is secure etc. 05:48:13 please share best practice for a casual user 05:49:06 What GPU does the device have? Are the drivers up to date? 05:49:53 Okay wait i might have fixed the CPU issue 05:50:55 okay its fixed. All i did was open low graphics mode. But not its still stuck on opening wallet and ''Create wallet' not working also. 05:51:39 So it was the OpenGL issue? 05:52:11 most likely yes 05:52:27 How do you open low graphics mode without the environment variables 05:52:53 And the wallet is just naturally slow 05:53:15 I'd ask a developer about it 05:54:15 You should also figure out why OpenGL isn't running on a GPU 05:54:33 This may affect other programs 05:56:22 I am not sure. But im still wondering why it wont let me create a new wallet 06:05:41 Do i really need to use CLI now haha 06:57:30 Who knew you could join as a guest 06:57:38 I did 06:58:02 Still 0 luck with creating new wallet in GUI 06:58:21 Shouldn't require any luck. 06:59:01 My GUI has had issues past few days. Stuck on opening wallet and ''create wallet'' button just does not work 07:02:22 quit 07:27:58 BarryS: which folder did you specify? 07:28:04 does the gui have write permissions there? 07:30:15 TamaraneanGirl: anything specifically slow in your opinion? 07:35:13 how do i give write permissions 07:37:25 which OS are you using? 07:39:21 windows 07:39:28 can you try starting as admin? 07:39:39 also do you have anti virus? 07:41:02 Tried as admin still not working and yes windows defender 07:41:21 did you set an exception for monero-gui? it likes to block it 07:41:36 Hello, please tell me the working node onion 07:42:14 korteshok: list of remote nodes are on this site: xmrguide42y34onq.onion 07:43:39 BarryS: one last thing you can try: Click on "change wallet mode" and select portable mode 07:46:17 None worked but for some reason the wallets does go into the monero files 07:46:37 and there is no error message? 07:47:18 Can you click "Open a wallet from file" and then select it? 07:48:44 It says couldnt open wallet when i know its the right one 07:48:54 I enter the same password and then it gets stuck on opening wallet 07:49:14 can you look into monero-wallet-gui.log and check if it says something in there? 07:49:20 it is in the monero-storage folder 07:51:21 theres not wallet-gui.log 07:51:47 i got into monero storage and wallet and keys are there 07:53:17 okay, you can try GUI on a different computer, or CLI wallet, feather, mobile wallets, ... 07:55:00 one more idea, open "cmd", drag and drop the GUI into it, press enter and now try to open again 07:55:17 there might be an error message in cmd window 08:02:11 No error page 08:02:52 2 Monero GUI start in task manager 08:02:57 and one takes up all cpu 08:04:37 Not immediately obvious what the issue is. I would recommend trying a different wallet. 08:05:39 Looks like CLI or web wallet 08:06:15 no connection with this node(( 08:09:48 BarryS: MyMonero is a web / desktop wallet 08:10:08 korteshok: the website I linked has multiple nodes 08:11:25 I might just use CLI probably worth the learn 08:14:18 I could not connect to any of these nodes(( 08:16:29 Are you using GUI with Tor? 08:20:11 Is Monerod suppose to take so much cpu? 08:21:13 yes 08:26:18 monerod on cli is taking up all cpu 08:26:59 If you are synching, the initial sync is resource intesive 08:27:32 i have the blockchain downloaded and synced it. Monerod has to stay open? 08:28:26 yes, at least you have to be synced to send monero 08:30:21 it takes up so much cpu when its already synced 08:31:17 i doubt it synced this quickly 08:31:22 random spikes 08:31:38 I synced it to downloaded blockchain 08:31:54 --data-dir 08:31:54 what kind of computer hardware do you have? 08:33:32 1cpu 3875 08:36:53 i never experienced this when i had monero gui earlier 08:37:11 Was this on the same computer? 08:37:33 yeah 08:37:37 whatdoes block added mean 08:37:51 what is the output of "status"? 08:38:10 type status into the daemon and post it here 08:38:34 2214453/2214453 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.61 GH/s, v14, 12(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 8m 49s 08:38:52 looks good 08:39:24 my 6 year old laptop runs both GUI and daemon fine without any noticeable CPU usage 08:39:31 are you able to create a wallet with CLI? 08:42:02 Yes created one now 08:47:52 my wallet is not connecting to any node. what could be the problem? 08:48:16 korteshok: Which operating system are you using? 08:51:09 mac os 08:51:19 Did you start the GUI with Torsocks? 08:52:38 Try the following: `brew install tor` 08:52:51 then start tor: `tor --allow-missing-torrc --ignore-missing-torrc --clientonly 1 --socksport 9050 --controlport 127.0.0.1:9051 --log "notice stdout" --clientuseipv6 1` 08:53:13 then start the GUI normally, go to Settings -> Interface and enable socks proxy with default settings 08:53:27 you should now be able to connect to .onion nodes, I just tested this myself 09:02:07 whats the best way to run cli wallet? 09:06:20 Do I need to write something to the socket 5? 09:06:37 127.0.0.1 9050 09:06:42 the default settings 09:14:15 Thank you very much. It works)) 10:37:27 Hi would anyone be able to help me figure out why my monero wallet's transactions keep failing? 10:37:57 boredhero: yes 10:38:03 which wallet are you using? 10:38:28 Monero-GUI 0.17.1.1-33afd0bb (Qt 5.15.1) on arch linux 10:38:41 Okay, simple mode or advanced mode? 10:38:57 And if Advanced mode, local node or remote node? 10:57:34 I don't know why monerod doesn't close when I type exit. It says "Stop signal sent" but nothing. It's like telling Windows XP to shut down 10:58:19 How long ago did you send the exit command? 10:59:25 A few minutes ago. I think probably the FS is backed up 10:59:35 probably waiting on that 11:04:38 type exit again 11:04:44 Sometimes it needs a kick 11:08:36 I did it three times already 😂 11:08:48 lsof shows it's got a lotta stuff open 11:09:21 I think I need to send signal 9 11:09:23 exit tries to exit gracefully so if something is taking a long time it will wait for it, afaik you can just ctrl + c 11:09:43 or sigkill 11:09:49 ^c and exit are the same right 11:14:04 I synced wownero real quick to see if it would do the same thing and it sort of did. There was a significant delay and then this error: 11:14:15 Unable to send transaction(s) via Dandelion++ stem 11:14:32 monerod had also shown this as a warning after I typed exit: 11:14:33 Unable to send transaction(s), no available connections 11:14:46 maybe it's a connectivity issue 11:15:07 but I don't have transactions, all it did was sync new blocks 11:15:53 it still relays txns broadcasted from other nodes 11:16:17 not during sync 11:16:22 but not sure if marmulak was syncing 11:16:56 ah ok 11:17:03 well I may need --tx-proxy then after all 11:17:23 why? 11:17:28 tx-proxy is for I2P / Tor 11:18:08 for sending tx's obviously 11:20:14 ok, you will have to manually specify I2P / Tor peers as we don’t have seed nodes for it yet 11:21:56 now that I'm playing with it it seems --no-igd may resolve my issue 11:25:32 ooor it's random 11:25:38 trying to reproduce the error 11:27:18 Who knows if there is a risk that I will be deceived when buying bitcoin with Monero on the Bisq exchange? 11:27:51 ev 14:26:09 is there a way to list the details of currently active rpc connections? 14:35:34 Lyza: Using netstat is probably easiest 14:36:01 got it ty 16:24:59 hi 16:25:46 hi 16:39:20 hi 16:42:49 hey 16:43:12 do you like big money? 16:43:19 fam 16:43:20 monero helps stop the spread of covid-19, doesn't it? 16:43:26 does anyone like spoonerisms? if you don't have monero, you have no marrow 16:43:48 idk what's spoonerism 16:44:17 when letters or sounds in some words or a phrase are swapped to make new words 16:44:29 here's one: may I sew you to your sheets? 16:44:55 is copenhagen_bram[ a bot? 16:45:17 i'm human thank you very much 16:45:41 please resolve 2+(5*2) 16:46:28 If you cannot resolve it, you may need to see an optician. 16:46:33 hmm, I think the answer is {error(bad.Syntax)} 16:46:46 bot 16:46:47 isn't a spoonerism like a soviet russia joke 16:47:16 i'm not a bot! i'm a fellow human 16:47:34 I breath in oxygen and breath out carbon dioxide, and I walk on my leg 16:47:37 you failed the captcha 16:48:11 .solve 2+(5*2) 16:48:11 12.000000000001 16:48:18 .0001 16:48:37 moneromooo is proved a bot 16:48:43 he failed too 16:48:44 what a stupid bot, the answer is actually 11.999999999999 16:48:54 scam chan full of bots 16:49:03 hey give me another captcha problem 16:49:38 ok 16:50:19 what's better: having 10 millions dollars, or a bowl of saltless butterless soup 16:50:21 ? 16:51:03 having a bowl of saltless butterless soup 16:51:11 ok bot 16:51:30 i can add salt and butter to it, but if i have 10 million dollars and it's not in monero, some people in black suits are going to ask me where i got it 16:51:56 bribe them 5 millions 16:52:43 you can have 10 million dollars in monero but your worst enemy gets 20 million, do you take it? 16:52:58 yes 16:53:28 oh and your worst enemy also gets a bowl of saltless butterless soup 16:53:41 yes 16:54:22 would you rather be satoshi nakamoto or vitalik buterin? 16:54:33 Satoshi 16:54:58 wbu 16:55:12 buterin the soup 16:55:26 vitalik seems like a pretty smart dude so i'd like to be that smart 16:55:37 Satoshi seemed dumb 16:55:59 unfortunately the soup has a rather vitalik taste 16:56:45 sad 16:56:56 do you like big money copenhagen_bram[ 16:58:47 i've never had big money, so i don't know 16:58:48 what's it like to have big money? 16:59:05 is freedom and power 16:59:34 It's hard to read all the zeroes so you always mess up at the shop. 17:02:15 the frick 17:03:19 if bitcoin and monero go up enough i might have big money 17:33:02 !quote 17:33:02 Random quote (#650): has there ever been a murder there not recently u need to do something bout dat 17:50:48 does anyone have the current bad peer ban list handy? 17:53:42 https://gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt 17:54:07 Not mine, credit goes to selsta 18:02:25 thanks 18:08:49 There's something weird going on with the "No incoming connections" error, not sure if anyone is aware of it already 18:09:50 I've been getting this message at exactly 1-hour intervals since I started my node this morning 18:10:01 endor00[m]: do you have any incoming connections? 18:10:04 Like, down to the exact second 18:10:06 But not every hour 18:10:19 Right now yes, 64 out + 0 in 18:10:30 0 in means you don't have any incoming connections. 18:10:54 probably means you're behind NAT and haven't set up port forwarding. 18:10:56 I've... always had that? 18:11:06 Yeah I am 18:11:27 But I never got that error message in the past (before 0.17 I think) 18:11:30 if you forward port 18080 to your monero node in your NAT router's configuration, you should start seeing incoming connections. 18:11:46 two possibilities: 18:11:53 1) you did get that error message, but didn't catch it 18:12:03 2) your router used to have port forwarding set up but then you reset it or got a new router. 18:12:51 Perhaps I had incoming connections but didn't notice 18:12:54 hmm running monerod might have made btrfs lose its mind 18:12:58 What's weird is the exact hourly cadence of these messages 18:13:07 what's weird about that? 18:13:15 That's because it's setup on a timer. 18:13:21 it probably has a timer running every hour to check the # of connections and print the message. 18:13:32 * endor00[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/nOUkuDMUIjksKSpaKeXTMnkL/message.txt > 18:13:45 yep 18:13:47 seems to make sense? 18:14:21 Oooh, and I just figured out why 18:14:59 I left my laptop connected to my vpn (which I usually don't do), and my firewall blocks 18080 18:15:20 Thanks for being my rubber duck <3 18:15:30 there you go :) 18:15:34 \_o< 18:15:40 ha 18:16:08 selsta: anyone analyze the ip ranges of the AHP's yet? 18:16:17 all ovh 18:16:25 So with 18080 blocked I can sync off of others, but nobody else can sync off of me, right? 18:16:33 IPs are kinda from around the world 18:16:35 so not only 1 country 18:16:47 endor00[m]: you can connect to someone and they can download your blocks 18:17:33 endor00[m]: nah, outgoing peers can sync off you too. incoming peers are the same, enabling them just gives you an opportunity to have more peers. 18:17:55 endor00[m]: plus, help the monero network by allowing nodes that can't/won't allow inbound connections to connect to you. 18:18:54 So I can initiate connections with others, but nobody else can initiate connections with me? 18:19:07 right 18:19:23 Got it, thanks! 18:57:14 I'm using monerod with "--no-igd --in-peers 0" but there are both incoming and outgoing connections (I notice them since enabling iptables rules to block bad nodes) 19:01:06 File a bug please. 19:13:40 moneromooo please have a look, it's not an issue for me, just wondering -- http://paste.debian.net/1168448/ 19:13:54 I meant on github. 19:16:47 Yes, I understood that, just making sure it's not some obvious mistake on my part ;-) 19:17:58 monerouser1144: what does print_cn say 19:21:01 Only OUT: http://paste.debian.net/1168449/ 19:24:26 selsta what do you think of node 94.100.217.121 (Ukraine) that is at block 1 and connected for the longest time of other peers? 19:24:59 that is fine 19:25:11 only out means you have no in peers 19:27:46 Yet iptables has blocked ~3k incoming connections since yesterday from your bad IPs. Maybe they ignore the setting and try to connect anyway. As I said, no big deal for me, just mentioned it in case it helps. 19:28:31 isn’t iptables in front of monerod? 19:28:50 soo makes sense IMO 19:29:05 Yes, it blocks both incoming and outgoing (see 1st paste) 19:30:08 So we assume the bad nodes don't play by the rules and attempt to connect anyway? 19:31:57 Even if you have in-peers 0 peers will attempt to connect 19:32:03 But your daemon will not allow it 19:32:10 you can't disable attempts 19:32:21 as far as I understand it 19:34:05 Hi, is this a support channel? Not sure who to talk to. I bought 35 XMR from changenow.io about 6-7 hours ago. They confirmed with me that they sent the XMR to my Monero wallet. They sent me a "receipt" from xmrchain.net. But still no money in my wallet. What could have happened? 19:34:06 Sure. In the first paste you'll also notice that my node tried to outbound connect to bad node IPs 2655 times. 19:34:41 Right, but monerod also does not know about your iptables block list 19:34:49 so they will also attempt 19:35:02 mrcollin: are you using GUI? 19:35:12 Yes I am 19:35:17 Can you go to Settings -> Log and type status and post output here 19:36:22 [2020-10-23 22:35] 2020-10-23 19:35:18.373 I Monero 'Nitrogen Nebula' (v0.16.0.3-release) 19:36:22 Height: 2214843/2214843 (100.0%) on mainnet, bootstrapping from 157.245.127.231:18089, local height: 1 (0.0%), not mining, net hash 1.72 GH/s, v14, 0(out)+0(in) connections 19:36:42 looks good 19:36:57 what does it say as wallet creation height in settings -> info? 19:37:10 or wait 19:37:17 you have to update to v0.17.1.1 19:37:34 Oh, I see 19:37:35 you are using pre network upgrade software 19:38:10 Ok Im gonna try that, thanks! Will update now and let you know how it went 19:40:48 Ok its all there now. Thanks again, selsta 19:42:32 ok nice 21:32:21 selsta: Any command in the CLI wallet has a tendency to get stuck, I don't know if it is a new problem in a release, or a slow system. The system has been slow after starting to use Matrix through the website. 21:32:56 Might also be ask-password decrypt 21:33:00 I don’t know. 21:33:15 Sometimes it has to wait for daemon result AFAIK. 21:33:21 I'm going to log out and see if it completes 21:33:49 Well if the whole system is slow the daemon would be slow 21:39:37 I closed the Matrix tab and didn't have a problem performing the action that became stuck, but I am still uncertain if that is the problem 21:39:55 Confirmation bias 21:58:41 are there checksums published for the blockchain.raw file listed on getmonero.org? 21:59:47 afaik no, but the monero-blockchain-import software verifies it as it gets imported (unless you tell it not to do so) 22:00:07 perfect 22:04:38 hrm, this might be a wacky idea, and sorta goes straight at centralization... but what if we included a helper tool like in ... ugh what was the mining software... 22:05:02 one of the mining OS's you could buy had a think where you entered a command, and the software would send a diagnostic report 22:05:17 so for instance, we could have a button in the GUI that would send software version info, for instance 22:05:37 Doesn't Monero already have a command to get info re: current node? 22:05:44 hrm might be too invasive. 22:06:00 yeah, but ppl gotta come here on IRC and blah blah blah 22:06:20 ./bin/monero-send-private-keys-to-gingeropolous-so-that-he-can-look-after-them 22:06:21 what % of monero GUI users having troubles find their way all the way to #monero 22:06:47 its like the end of the rainbow here. beyond this realm is just code. 22:09:49 well i guess the kiwi IRC clients can help