00:01:01 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377345.0 explains it. it looks like it saves bandwidth because relaying transactions has overhead that is reduced by relaying completed blocks 00:01:34 I want to tinker around with the code of monerod to try to add something like a system tray icon, but I'll probably make a small external tool first as a proof of concept, I don't expect it to get merged. 00:02:23 ty 00:06:33 OK, that makes sense to me. Bitcoin has loads of txes per block, so lists of hashes end up adding up pretty fast compared to tx sizes. 00:23:53 0.17.1.1 worked, will those two MLSAG transactions that caused it to get stuck have to be whitelisted forever? 00:24:28 That'd be a funny piece of history. 00:24:44 yes, will stay in the code 00:25:52 Am I misunderstanding that transactions could have been lost if this was far worse, or is that not a valid concern? 00:27:04 I assumed that if the blocks that were later than the fork were lost they'd lose transactions, but the outputs wouldn't be locked up would they? 00:57:57 Also, tail -f doesn't do exactly what I wanted 00:58:23 It only updates the log when I query it from the terminal 00:58:40 You're meant to keep it running. 00:59:08 It is running 00:59:37 Define "query". 01:00:41 monerod status, it updates the tail -f command, but the log is not updating in real time, so tail -f wouldn't be able to pick up the current block status until I tell monerod to print it 01:01:26 Ah. set_log 1 ? 01:02:13 That seems to have done it, now to find out how the filter the extra statuses 01:03:16 You can play around with the set_log settings. git grep MONERO_DEFAULT_LOG will show the list. Find the one that prints the new blocks, and set_log 0,thatcategory:INFO 01:06:14 I guess I need to pull down the repo now then 01:08:23 My code might get merged if it's not too intrusive 01:21:55 moneromooo: "Daemon reports suspicious number of rct outputs" 01:22:05 Any idea how to fix this? Someone asking on Reddit 01:23:46 Deamon is borked, or popped blocks. 01:24:11 apparently tried multiple remote nodes, but will double check 01:24:19 but this is daemon related? 01:25:37 The wallet and dameon don't agree with each other. 01:26:03 The wallet has an output, and the daemon claims there are fewer outputs that this. 01:26:16 standard non-updated remote node problem? 01:27:09 during hardfork? probably the worst time to use remote nodes. does wallet check version of node its connected to? 01:27:26 RPC major version. 01:27:44 hrm ok, nvm 01:27:56 Which rarely changes. 01:33:46 hrm ok, nvm 02:17:27 It appears that the --detach command is causing the monerod process to close it's stdout pipe, but passing the --non-interactive argument monerod won't start from systemd 02:22:53 find . -name monero\*service 02:26:49 The hassle for a minor quality of life improvement 02:36:49 I got it working 02:48:48 Apparently this was a hot issue a few years ago 03:52:04 Not sure if someone forgot to update the website or not... but it still says: Downloads 03:52:04 Current Version: 0.17.1.0 - Oxygen Orion 03:53:27 mmm... just the gui 03:53:29 nvm 04:35:27 Gui 0,17,1,1 not out yet? 04:39:35 soon 04:39:51 supposed to be later today 04:40:35 Inge standard time 04:59:40 ah see the mailing list says today 05:18:05 Good morning all. Anyone able to assist, I have a question. Very, very new to this. How easy is it to purchase Monero? And once purchased, how easy to convert back into liquid cash if needed? Does this take long? 05:37:12 wolfkeeper[m]: that depends - if you are ok with KYC on an exchange that supports FIAT pairs, it can all be rather quick (for example Kraken) 05:37:40 but there are also things like localmonero 05:44:04 Ok, I am yet to open a wallet and start the process. Still researching how all of this works. what is KYC, is it good or not so ideal. Does quick mean within days or faster. Can you perhaps explain in lamans terms???😶 05:45:39 KYC = Know your customer. Regulated exchanges (and fiat exchanges have to be regulated) need to verify who you are , so will typically ask for picture id and a copy of a utility bill etc 05:47:01 Monero is the most cypherpunk of all the cryptocurrencies, so quite a few will not go through such a process, and instead relying on other ways to buy and sell their crypto. And it is pretty easy to go between Monero and BTC and other cryptos without providing identyfying information - it is just the transition between crypto and fiat that can be a bit tricky 05:47:01 CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ ~ IT REFERS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY, Inge- 05:47:26 Quotes is not an AI. He doesn't get happy, he doesn't get sad, HE JUST RUNS PROGRAMS. 05:55:25 "copy of a utility bill" <-- I hate this requirement. I have no paper utility bills since like 2014 05:57:29 So then would it be easier or best to change Monero's to Bitcoin to get the Bitcoin sold? Or can you sell Monero on Bitcoin and these funds can be paid into a normal bank account? Can this be an account anywhere in the world? Also say I buy a Monero coin for $10 today, then in a week need to sell and the value has gone up to $15, does this mean my coin is worth $15? and when I sell do I get the value of what it is worth 05:57:29 on that day? 05:58:03 So then would it be easier or best to change Monero's to Bitcoin to get the Bitcoin sold? Or can you sell Monero on Bitcoin and these funds can be paid into a normal bank account? Can this be an account anywhere in the world? Also say I buy a Monero coin for $10 today, then in a week need to sell and the value has gone up to $15, does this mean my coin is worth $15? and when I 05:58:03 sell do I get the value of what it is worth on that day? 06:21:34 If you sold to a fiat currency you should get the value on that day 06:49:23 Hi, I'm looking for some help with monero. I got money transferred from CoinSwitch to my monero account, and it has not arrived. 06:51:16 FreeXanz: do you have a transaction id? 06:52:58 I have a xmrchain.net link with the transaction info 06:53:16 is the transaction id tx hash? 06:56:12 yes 06:56:16 and it says confirmed? 06:56:36 Um, I don't see anything about confirmation or disconfirmation, I don't really know how to read this thing 06:56:40 Is it ok to post the link? 06:57:28 It should say "No of confirmations" 06:57:49 sure, says 227 06:58:13 ok 06:58:20 which monero wallet are you using? 06:58:29 Monero GUI, from the official website 06:58:55 I'm using it through Qubes throguh a debian vm 06:59:01 What block height does say in the bottom left corner? 06:59:35 Not sure where height is 07:00:10 I control f'd height with no result 07:00:27 Does it say Daemon is synchronized (2211683) 07:00:33 in the bottom left of the GUI 07:00:35 oh you mean the wallet now? 07:00:37 let me look 07:03:03 sorry just had to reset the vm 07:03:33 Oh now it's not synced, it says Daemon Blocks remaining: 967. Before it was finished 07:03:49 Very strange 07:04:12 oh now its done 07:04:17 it says 07:04:28 Daemon is synchronized (2210720) 07:04:39 Funds are still at 0 07:07:15 okay, click on the two arrows 07:07:26 in the bottom left corner, it connected to a stuck node 07:07:40 it should be at 2211683 07:08:06 I dont see 2 arrows in the bottom left 07:08:49 Maybe there's something wrong with my node? 07:11:33 Should I try connecting to a remote node to test? 07:12:23 oh you are using your own node 07:12:39 yes, there was a bug yesterday with some nodes getting stuck 07:12:43 you have to use v0.17.1.1 daemon 07:12:56 https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ 07:13:09 you can use v0.17.1.1 daemon together with v0.17.1.0 GUI 07:13:51 ah 07:13:55 let me check 07:14:32 im on v0.17.0.1 07:14:48 daemon or gui? or both? :D 07:15:16 just says gui 07:15:19 how do I check daemon? 07:15:39 Okay, exit the GUI and close the daemon 07:15:54 Download v0.17.1.1 CLI and v0.17.1.0 GUI from the website 07:16:17 Hey I actually have to go now sorry, but it sounds like we've located the issue 07:16:29 I'll see how it goes, thanks a lot! If not i'll be back here! 07:17:48 Okay, then if you downloaded both 07:17:56 start monerod from v0.17.1.1 manually 07:17:59 thank you. 07:17:59 and then start the GUI 07:18:04 and your funds should show up 07:18:27 FreeXanz: You can also wait for v0.17.1.1 GUI release which should be out in 12 hours or so 07:19:00 Might as well try both I guess 08:27:14 Hi, my node is stuck at 2210720 block 08:27:20 do you have any issues? 08:29:24 https://redd.it/jdp770 08:29:46 no issues here- 0.17.1 08:31:11 There is a updated version "Current Version: 0.17.1.1 - Oxygen Orion" copy contents of that folder into monero - gui and fixes it or wait for new GUI Tomorrow (worked for me) 08:31:26 Igoris: known issue from the fork. solution ^ 08:31:43 thanks @asymptotically @AndrewJackson, updating the version 08:50:01 monero 0.17, cannot send transactions, any1 has similar problem: 08:50:09 Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/1dd42139df9cbdbc84212ec085b6bcca/Selection_085.png 09:02:28 I read that you can use rpc pay on the cli version of the wallet . Is that also possible with the gui wallet at getmonero ? 09:07:04 kiwi_57: is this from your GUI log? 09:07:22 selsta CLI log 09:07:33 what height is your daemon? 09:08:02 selsta Height: 2210720/2210720 (100.0%) on mainnet, mining at 382 H/s, net hash 1.47 GH/s, v14 (forking now), 8(out)+52(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 33m 41s 09:08:08 update v0.17.1.1 09:11:58 selsta Ok, i'll try. Thanks 10:50:15 selsta It solved the problem, thanks 11:12:24 Hi, trying to download Monero to create a wallet, but have a 32 bit windows. Can I download 64 bit download for windows? I have already verified all just need to do the hashes. 11:14:01 That won't work 11:14:11 CLI has 32 bit version 11:14:11 There is a 32-bit CLI binary available for Windows though if I recall correctly 11:20:24 Was wanting to do GUI as I'm very new to this so is a CLI wallet much more complicated? 11:21:35 GUI seems less complicated than CLI....🤔 11:22:34 what do you have? windows XP? :p 11:25:14 Windowsw 10, thought it was a 64bit, but when trying to verify the hashes it says it does not recognise the command or file not found. 11:25:28 so thinking it must be a 32 bit then? 11:26:15 unlikely 11:26:32 unless you accidentally picked the 32 bit option during the installation of Windows 11:26:37 most CPUs are 64 bit 11:26:39 nowadays 11:27:25 but when trying to verify the hashes it says it does not recognise the command or file not found. <= Can you copy the command here that you tried to execute? 11:29:32 Just checked and it is 64bit. Im following the instructions to verify the binaries in the directory command and entering the command exactly as instructions say, bit still not working. 11:30:14 Calculate the hash of the Monero binary with the command: certUtil -hashfile monero-gui-win-x64-v0.11.1.0.zip SHA256 (if you downloaded a command-line only version, replace monero-gui-win-x64-v0.11.1.0.zip accordingly). TRIED BOTH BUT NEITHER WORKING. 11:30:50 Please paste the command here 11:30:53 (that you tried to execute) 11:31:35 Calculate the hash of the Monero binary with the command: certUtil -hashfile monero-gui-win-x64-v0.11.1.0.zip SHA256 (if you downloaded a command-line only version, replace monero-gui-win-x64-v0.11.1.0.zip accordingly). TRIED BOTH BUT NEITHER WORKING. 11:36:29 ....LIGHT BULB.... should I not be changinf the version in the command to v0.17.1.0..... 11:39:21 selsta: I just downloaded the latest version and it still says my daemon is the old version. Weird. I gotta sleep now, i'll try fix it when I get up 11:40:28 didnt work.... error message WIN32: 2 ERROR FILE NOT FOUND 11:42:02 FreeXanz: The new GUI is not out yet 11:42:08 ah 11:42:13 couple hours 11:42:14 should I just download the cli version? 11:42:19 oh no worries 11:42:22 it should be out when im up then 11:52:12 wolfkeeper[m]: Again, please paste the exact command here that you are trying to execute 11:52:15 Then we can spot any errors 12:08:05 http://moneroblocks.info/ really sucks! But it still CMC's default block explorer 12:09:33 I find it very newbs friendly, but it hasn't been updated before the fork unfortunately 12:10:41 Stuck is the norm for it 13:04:22 certUtil -hashfile monero-gui-win-x64-v0.11.1.0.zip SHA256 13:05:07 wolfkeeper[m]: getmonero.org is the official website 13:05:09 not monero.org 13:05:58 https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/#windows - this is what shows in my browser 13:06:12 ok 13:06:24 you have to specify v0.17.1.0.zip 13:06:26 not v0.11.1.0 13:09:05 I've tried that, but still gives the error message HASFILE COMMAND FAILED: 0X80070002 (WIN32 2 ERROR FILE NOT FOUND) 13:10:15 enter `certUtil -hashfile ` and then drag and drop the .zip file into the cmd window 13:12:43 Ok, which drop file, the hashes drop file? 13:12:57 no the monero gui .zip 13:13:33 OK, where do I find that? 13:14:11 download it 13:14:12 from the website 13:14:26 Oh, the install download? I did not download the Zip file, but the Windows 64bit installer 13:14:39 okay, then drag and drop the installer 13:16:58 Do I remove the C: \users\user\downleads part? 13:17:09 no 13:26:52 AWESOME!!! you are awesome!! thank you!!! hash file command successful, BUT it says SHA 1 and the numbers don't match on my hash file? 13:27:08 AWESOME!!! you are awesome!! thank you!!! hash file command successful, BUT it says SHA 1 and the numbers don't match on my hash file? 13:27:35 you have to specify sha256 13:28:32 try adding SHA256 at the end 13:30:03 wolfkeeper[m]: by the way 13:30:18 v0.17.1.1 is now out you should use it 13:30:26 not v0.17.1.0 13:32:23 That is the one I just tried. Worked and hash file numbers match! thanks so much. 13:33:21 sorry was v0.17.1.0, so now what do I do??? 13:33:46 do the same thing again 13:34:20 where is v0.17.1.1? 13:34:31 https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ 13:34:45 if it still says v0.17.1.0 try to use a private browser window or a different browser 13:35:03 never mind just refreshed and updated. Will this mean that the has codes have changed? 13:35:10 yep 13:35:26 make sure you also refresh the hashes.txt page 13:49:33 Ledger still works. 14:41:43 Inge-: 0.17.1.1 GUI is up! 14:42:09 https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ 14:51:59 New GUI release is out -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/je31i8/gui_v01711_oxygen_orion_released_fixes_block/ 14:54:06 hello everyone 15:28:28 greetings. 15:28:55 hello 15:59:46 how to be a BTC maximalist https://twitter.com/BenDiFrancesco/status/1318191006769123329 15:59:49 welcome 16:07:46 nioc: cool 16:08:25 hyc: That will be ... an interesting day. 16:13:00 whoa all of a sudden, hard forks don't look bad anymore. 16:15:03 lol 16:15:14 that whole thread is just insane 16:15:16 But the man is correct 16:15:24 If the alternative is the death of bitcoin, it will fork 16:15:39 somebody may fork it. but the fork will be just that, a fork. 16:15:49 original BTC will just die. 16:15:54 and that will just speed up the demise of the main chain as SOME hashpower is diverted to the fork 16:17:46 "original BTC will just die" <--- what about Monero? We're on v14 now 16:17:56 so 13 forks so far? 16:19:46 sech1: did you watch the movie The Prestige? 16:20:10 I did but I don't remember it 16:21:01 Monero is the magician with the deadly magic trick 16:22:18 Monero community doesn't have an anti-fork philosophy, BTC does 16:23:03 forking would violate a BTC principle, break its identity 16:24:33 Are there any privacy coins built on Ethereum yet? 16:24:48 there are claims of some 16:25:56 There's so much bloat to hide in. 16:28:49 There are privacy “apps” like Tornado Cash, Umbrel, and a few other knock offs 16:29:09 But they’re just a glorified Zcash shielded pool that costs massive amounts in fees and has little to no usage 16:29:43 i have an old outdated node i would like to start using again. how to bring it up to date? install the latest version and let it bring the chain up to date? or do that incrementally for several previous versions? or start over and redownload the entire chain? 16:29:53 Potentially could be interesting as part of a zk-rollup side chain, since fees would be lessened, but again — adoption wont ever be strong enough IMO 16:30:10 Just install the latest version (v0.17.1.1) and let it sync from where it stopped in the past 16:30:32 sethsimmons, thanks, that's the answer i was hoping for 16:30:38 If you run into issues then you can delete the .bitmonero directory and start the sync from scratch, but it should be able to salvage the leftover db info 16:31:23 it will upgrade the DB as needed 16:31:50 Oooh, it's been a while we did not have a db udpate. 16:31:59 Reminds me I have one on github. 16:54:42 getmonero.org still has version 0.17.1.0 for Win64-bit posted. Need update to 0.17.1.1, Noticed when verifing hash. I felt the need to say something as Im the last person in the world to still be using windows and nobody else would ever notice. 16:54:51 Hello everyone 16:55:01 I'm getting this with the CLI 16:55:26 2020-10-19 16:28:58.822 W There were 22 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck. 16:55:26 2020-10-19 16:30:28.836 W There were 22 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck. 16:55:29 Is this okay? 16:55:49 I'm running CLI v0.17.1.1 16:56:27 When I execute status I get this: 16:56:27 eight: 2211892/2211892 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 2.10 GH/s, v14, 12(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 1h 23m 26s 16:56:48 lh1008[m]: yeah it's ok, just variance 16:57:08 okay 16:57:38 more of that now with a big miner coming and going 16:58:26 Thank you nioc 16:58:33 yw 17:05:45 One more thing, how can I disable default mining through the daemon? Can't find the command. When I make stop_mining it stops, but when the daemon starts it has enables mining. 17:06:51 lh1008[m]: the command may be from the wallet 17:11:42 lh1008[m]: I use the CLI not sure about the GUI 17:12:00 lh1008[m]: you can check https://community.xmr.to/blocks/frequencies to see if it's just you or everyone 17:12:35 when you create a wallet it asks if you want to start background mining 17:13:01 I also use the CLI nioc . When I open the wallet mining is enabled, how can I disable mining is my question. 17:13:26 you disable background mining in the wallet 17:14:45 set setup-background-mining 0 17:16:08 "set" without parameters and "help set" are your friends 17:18:57 There's something weird happening, let me show you, it kills the daemon. 17:19:34 * lh1008[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/unsEMrZJpNAzwsWIdhxJtKps/message.txt > 17:19:53 this is when I start the wallet that has the mining enabled 17:22:09 Lol 17:22:27 Nice one lol 17:22:49 lh1008[m]: "Killed" seems to show it's killed externally, not crashing 17:22:59 what do you do exactly before that line appears? 17:24:09 lh1008[m]: have a look at the output of `dmesg | tail` - you might be running out of memory 17:28:53 binaryFate: I run stop_mining in the wallet and then I start_mining again. The daemon gets stuck and kills itself. 17:30:02 asymptotically might be right. I don't think it would kill itself, so it's either killed by you somehow or by the OS 17:34:30 I guess the OS kills it. I don't kill it. 17:35:14 The mining is enabled 0 threads and no hash rate either, I know, it's strange. 17:47:18 The daemon kills itself when I run the wallet that has mining enabled. 17:47:53 That sounds like OOM. Mining needs a bit more than 2 GB just for mining. 17:48:06 definitely check dmesg 17:48:57 Evening all, question - how risky is a simple mode wallet? Can one change to Advanced mode later on? 17:49:34 Simple mode is similar to using a remote node. Yes you can change mode later. 17:51:03 Yeah, it seems I ran out of memory, dmesg says: 17:51:07 * lh1008[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ueaARhvzpiRlNTGqKexKxSFf/message.txt > 17:51:49 Say I upgrade later on to Advanced mode, would the account still be at risk after having used remote nodes on Simple? 18:03:35 Trying to upload new "Current Version: 0.17.1.1 - Oxygen Orion" but still gives me 0.17.1.0 when I drag and drop into the command prompt to verify hashes. Please help. 18:04:05 Use a different browser 18:04:14 or private browser window 18:04:25 it should say v0.17.1.1 inside the file name 18:11:24 working thanks 18:15:14 hello, is there an xmr.to equivalent for sending to people who insist on paypal? 18:17:52 No. 18:33:54 xmr not having hundreds of worthless derivative shitcoins is ahuge plus for me 18:35:32 there are dozens of worthless monero/bytecoin forks 18:35:42 Name one 18:35:47 * dsc_ runs 18:35:58 wown-i mean zano 18:36:03 hee. 18:37:45 are we not allowed to say w@wnero here? 18:38:04 you are now on the list copenhagen_bram[ 18:38:39 w0w 18:40:18 oh noes i'm on a list 18:40:21 The List™, with comma seperated values and without Windows carriage returns 18:40:46 is it next to NSA's list of people who've looked up Tor or Tails? 18:41:03 yo NSA i know what Tails OS is 18:41:03 NSA? Morono protects me. 18:41:22 Is it... an OS for furries ? 18:41:36 no it's a portable OS for Tor 18:41:53 like the tor browser but an operating system for it 18:41:59 there's also whonix 18:42:01 Nice, for laptops then ? 18:42:20 yeah tails works on laptops 18:42:21 lol moneromooo 18:42:26 it's portable, you run it off a usb 18:42:41 also it's amnesic, when you shut it down it wipes the memory 18:43:01 so you can run tails on a library computer and it's supposed to 'leave no trace' 18:43:12 When I shut my computer down it also whipes the memory eventually though 18:44:23 So it's OS for furries you can carry into libraries, and it ensures you leave no traces after you've done your business. 18:44:42 hmm, i'll have to look up why tails os wipes the memory 18:44:53 To prevent cold boot attacks, I was joking. 18:44:59 :-P 18:45:15 Yeah, the librarians give you the cold boot if you leave traces :/ 18:45:19 :D 18:45:21 I thought a cold boot attack only works if you obtain the ram while the computer is running 18:45:38 Like, you have to spray liquid nitrogen on the ram chip and take it out 18:45:52 Can you really get the ram off of a computer that's been shut down just as easily? 18:46:00 I can't imagine the face of hte librarian if I tried this. 18:46:02 EEEEEEK 18:46:59 yeah Tails OS is great for furries, whistleblowers, and monero users alike 18:47:17 winning combination 18:47:47 how much did i win? 18:48:20 !tip copenhagen_bram[ 1 18:49:24 lol 18:52:42 hey if anyone wants to tip me monero, i can give them an address 18:53:01 but i'm probably going to have to buy some via localmonero if i want any 18:53:11 begging is forbidden 18:53:16 trolling is tolerated 18:53:19 ^^ 18:53:24 phew 18:53:48 lol 18:53:56 wait for atomic swaps and then change your btc bags in to monroecopenhagen_bram: 18:54:17 btc bags into monroe? 18:54:30 lol 18:54:37 Yes. 18:55:02 hey we should make a mascot for monero and name him monroe 18:55:50 cc: rehrar 18:59:10 copenhagen_bram[: do you know monerocat? https://cryptopop.net/2017/09/21/who-is-monero-cat-2/ 18:59:54 The little Monero fox I made is also a good contendor. 19:00:08 yeah cute af 19:00:38 oh cool 19:02:11 how are we going to tax the rich if the rich switch to monero? 19:04:36 not like they pay taxes anyway currently :P 19:05:14 rehrar: does that fox have a name? 19:05:56 if not, it's not too late to name the fox monroe 19:06:00 copenhagen_bram: rich doesn't pay taxes anyways. It's the upper middle class and the middle class that pays for your health system and education system. 19:09:26 I said how are we going to tax the rich, not how will we continue to tax the rich 19:11:52 dixie__flatline[: one guy wanted to name is Zorrera. 19:12:12 Well, monero will usher in the ultimate anarcho-capitalist, hoppean, future. 19:12:16 rehrar: lol interesting name 19:15:43 wow, supernode claiming 83% ram usage 19:15:54 on 64 gb 19:21:14 selsta: I downloaded the latested gui version and it fixed the issue, thanks! 19:26:29 copenhagen_bram[: there used to be a tip bot here 19:26:37 .seen tippero 19:29:22 also the tardigrade should be the mascot 19:32:12 ++ 20:17:32 Is there a way to update monero without downloading another entire Monero tarball? Like a patch or something? 20:19:58 git pull will only download patches since last time. 20:20:08 If you mean some kind of binary patch, no. 20:24:41 Hello, i have an issue with importing my seed into the wallet gui. 20:24:59 i just imported the wallet and synced it with a remote node but it shows 0 balance. 20:25:05 is there any way to see if my address has a balance ? 20:25:15 i have the address and the seed, and i did a transfer back in 2017 20:25:35 Check the refresh from block height setting is <= the first tx you made for that address. 20:25:45 (and rescan) 20:25:50 you can check it under Settings -> Info under "wallet creation height" 20:26:14 If it still doesn't work, use your node. If not, you're trusting some random stranger will not try to mess with you. 20:26:21 i dont know when exactly the tx was, sometime in 2017 i think :) but i think i synced from scratch 20:26:35 You can always lowball the date, ie 1/1/2017. 20:27:07 What did you use as restore height coinling? 20:27:15 height is 1192228 , 20:27:47 that should be ok 20:28:02 yes its 2016 20:28:10 which remote node are you using? 20:28:19 simple mode or did you manually specify one? 20:28:45 opennode.xmr-tw.org port 18089 20:29:15 is there any way to check if some address had an incoming transfer at all? 20:30:09 i remember doing the transfers back then with some air gapped computer and this was kinda strange just with the command line. so maybe i lost my funds due to a mistake or they are probably still in my previous wallets 20:30:37 I would try again to restore with a different remote node 20:31:27 coinling: Did you write down the specific transaction hashes / IDs for this wallet? 20:40:11 Did I mess up by creating a wallet without a daemon? It appears to be syncing transactions from genesis. 20:40:58 If you do this, it'll guess at a creation height based on your system time. If it's wrong, you messed up. Ohterwise, it should be good enough. 20:41:22 I guess I can just restore and specify a closer blockheight 20:42:16 Wallet refresh will always start from zero 20:42:33 TamaraneanGirl[m: You may be interested in the content here -> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/7581/what-is-the-relevance-of-the-restore-height 20:43:09 @selsta what is the fastest way to restore ? it took my like one day for the sync... 20:43:20 It feels slow, as if it's deeply scanning every block for transactions it won't find 20:43:59 dEBRUYNE no i just wrote down the first address, which is simliar to the one i see now in the wallet ( is this the ID?) and the seed 20:44:32 coinling: with your own node restore is quick, with a remote node it takes longer 20:45:57 TamaraneanGirl[m: Which software did you use? CLI or GUI? 20:46:40 CLI, I didn't open it for a few days, this is the first time it's connected to a daemon 21:10:55 ok i dont have my own node 21:12:20 should the balance show up as soon as i synced with the block of 2017 or do i have to wait until all is synced ? 21:13:30 If it's the only tx you ever made, the balance will show up once that block is processed. 21:14:27 TamaraneanGirl[m: And which version? 21:17:01 ok and is there any way to see this tx without syncing ? like inthe block explorer ? 21:17:17 so i can look whether there was any transfer to my address at all or not? 21:17:21 Yes, xmrchain.net is one, put the txid in. 21:17:29 You won't see the amount though. 21:17:29 i dont have the txid 21:17:31 just the address 21:17:35 thats fine 21:17:50 You can't lookup by address, that's the point of monero. 21:18:42 ok hmm 21:19:11 do you still have access to the other wallet? 21:19:32 i think i still have the private key somewhere yes 21:19:44 will have a look, but then i have the same issue and have to sync etc. first :D 21:20:12 but best to look there first 21:20:59 Monero; So private - even you don't know how many Monero you have. 21:21:27 hehe i know but my wallet somehow doesnt know :P 21:27:13 is it possible that a seed has the same word twice one after another? 21:28:02 i found the spend and view key, is this any helpful for having a look for the coins in explorer ? 21:28:02 Yes. 21:28:35 Some allow you giving them the view key and a txid and check whether one of the outputs go to it. 21:28:52 ok but i dont have the txid 21:28:57 Obviously, it means that site can now see everything going to it, if it keeps it. 22:30:58 What's the name of the Monero explorer with the clean design? 22:31:35 depends on your definition of clean 22:31:46 It was all in black and white text, no javascript 22:32:39 xmrchain.net, that's the one 22:39:21 Mochi101: Do you run monero.win? 23:04:27 could someone post if there were any answers to my questions from 23.39 aand 23.47 ? i got disconnected 23:07:26 I did not see anything from you after "ok but i dont have the txid". 23:07:53 ah ok , so i was disconnected before :D 23:07:56 And nothing addressed to you since then. 23:09:48 I sent sigint to initial refresh and starting refresh manually worked 23:10:33 I thought it was 0.17.1.1, but it appears that Whonix didn't push that today, they pushed 0.17.1.0 23:11:40 The wallet would have been created with 0.17.0.1 though 23:12:32 when i run my own node and am synced, i can import new seeds and use the synced chain, or do i have to dl again ? 23:12:54 What 23:13:36 coinling: you only have to download the chain once 23:14:05 coinling: node remains synced with the network, wallet needs to sync with the node 23:14:14 Also how does the freenode bridge work, is there a bouncer on the other side? 23:14:35 wallet syncing with node does not take long 23:14:44 I assume using Matrix to tag usernames would do nothing as well 23:14:50 thanks , and how does the wallet sync ? here it still sayss waiting for deamon to sync. 23:15:09 i didnt download the whole chain just like 2/3 of it until i saw the balance 23:15:20 not sue, some minutes 23:15:34 since i did a transfer to another address during the same time i just wanted to import the other first and see whether the balance is there as well 23:15:47 so far it still says 0 thoug and the deamon doesnt sync 23:16:27 Restart the wallet 23:16:44 TamaraneanGirl[m: irc tags matrix and visa versa 23:17:36 I don't really understand how IRC works, but it's not a very rich platform if what I know is correct, it supports tags though? 23:18:36 you mean close walletr and login again or close the whole wallet gui ? 23:18:54 The whole GUI, if I encounter problems, this usually helps 23:31:13 coinling: Go to Settings -> Log, enter "status" and post the output to paste.debian.net