00:44:21 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Is there a risk to privacy when exchanging btc to xmr on bisq if you reuse the same monero address?
00:55:58 <jwinterm> aaaaaaaaaaaa, slight I guess
00:56:05 <jwinterm> if the same person is selling you the btc
00:56:08 <jwinterm> in particular
01:12:01 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Whats the risk if the same person is selling you the btc
01:14:52 <nioc> in the case of you buying btc with xmr they don't know the monero address that you sent from
01:15:03 <nioc> the problem is that you now have btc :)
01:15:08 <nioc> and very well might be tainted btc
01:15:56 <nioc> btc is a privacy risk
01:16:14 <jwinterm> same as withdrawing from an exchange multiple times to same address
01:16:16 <jwinterm> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5l7rx4/is_it_safe_to_reuse_monero_addresses/dbtsmue?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
01:16:20 <jwinterm> aaaaaaaaaaaa, ^
01:16:36 <dsc_> if you come here tomorow rocking that cool nickname we'll know it's you again
01:16:40 <dsc_> :P
01:16:51 <aaaaaaaaaaaa>  No the other way
01:16:59 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Say you buy btc from an exchange
01:17:09 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Withdraw to a unique btc address each time
01:17:25 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Then go to bisq and exchange the btc into monero but use the same monero address for each transaction and the same seller
01:17:28 <jwinterm> that comment is about monero address reuse
01:17:34 <jwinterm> linked on reddit
01:17:41 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Oh sorry didn't see
01:17:51 <nioc> <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Whats the risk if the same person is selling you the btc  <-> why I commented the way I did
01:18:11 * rot hits nioc with a $1 wrench
01:18:23 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Yeah my bad
01:18:25 <aaaaaaaaaaaa> Worded it wrong
01:19:08 <nioc> rot: at least you have a wrench
03:37:03 <viperperidot[m]> Just watched Monero Means Money, great presentation!
07:57:22 <Edan3blov> hi
07:58:42 <Edan3blov> i open a github issue https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6848
07:59:08 <Edan3blov> some days ago but there is no help until now
08:14:39 <gyt0> (v0.17.0.0-release) My log is flooded by lines ca. 10 per 1 sec: "[P2P7] ERROR txpool src/cryptonote_core/tx_pool.cpp:1394 failed to find tx meta". It's very annoying.
12:50:40 <hyc> digital euro coming soon? https://twitter.com/michaelsteen/status/1314153328692076546
12:51:44 <moneromooo> I'd almost put monero on it being a spyware coin.
12:51:59 <hyc> probably
12:53:02 <hyc> bitcoin believers still sniffing glue or whatever they do https://twitter.com/QUEWB/status/1314157172297613312
12:53:12 <hyc> how much are cabbage patch dolls worth these days?
12:53:56 <hyc> rarity is only one element of value. there has to be underlying desirability too. what's desirable about holding a surveillance coin?
12:54:54 <hyc> something that can't easily be spent... when emissions are halved to a trickle, and nobody can get their hands on them, who's going to bother with them?
12:54:58 <moneromooo> Stockholm syndrome ? :)
12:55:45 * moneromooo slaps self for using that expression as a cheap trick
12:55:50 <hyc> lol
13:09:02 <charolastra> so EU is planning to host a private database to manage those coins? :p
13:09:21 <charolastra> not even mentioning cryptocurrency
13:11:03 <dixie__flatline[> >just trust my opaque database bro
13:22:25 <hyc> no worries, they've got some top notch Excel experts to set it up
13:23:24 <asy> oh wow, serco are creating a craptocurrency? :D
13:26:25 <john_r365> Read about China's Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) that is being nicknamed DCEP in the West - https://boxmining.com/dcep/ - presumably many countries will go that direction. Will increase the power of the central banks, and also increase their ability to surveil
13:30:28 <hyc> with the majority of commerce already occurring digitally, thry credit cards, debit cards, paypal/venmo/etc., how does a CBDC actually change anything?
13:30:59 <hyc> your fiat already only exists as numbers in a database
13:32:46 <hyc> the only qualitative change is if it's truly decentralized and allows P2P transactions
13:33:06 <hyc> if you still have to go thru a credit card/payment processor, then nothing changes
13:53:37 <john_r365> As far as I understand, it's not possible to do P2P payments with the current Fiat systems. They all require rails. Imagine the banks being stations, and Visa/Mastercard/Wire/ACH being rails that run between them. Some proposed CBDC implementations would allow for P2P payments without the rails. Which would shift power from private institutions who currently manage the rails, towards public ones. But of
13:53:43 <john_r365> course, this won't be decentralized
17:30:45 <MalMen> hmmmm
17:30:59 <MalMen> something is telling me that I got kicked out of stagenet
17:31:45 <selsta> are you using v0.17?
17:32:03 <MalMen> not yet :P
17:32:34 <selsta> stagenet forked and requires v0.17
17:32:47 <MalMen> yeah, I tought that
17:33:01 <MalMen> I was mining stagenet classic alone
17:33:40 <MalMen> 2020-10-08 17:33:22.252 I Current top block <350eda46d7f5b8a0fef6ab28c563c3563ea4baf5e09019f04caa0cfa073151f5> at height 681011 has version 12 which disagrees with the ideal version 14
17:33:40 <MalMen> here I go
17:34:33 <monerouser1144> Do we have to mine for stagenet in oder to obtain coins to do tests?
17:35:03 <MalMen> yeah, or find some faucet
17:35:11 <MalMen> but its realy easy to mine there or on testnet
17:35:24 <MalMen> 1core will give you blocks in no time
17:35:28 <lza_menace> i always use this https://community.xmr.to/faucet/stagenet/
17:35:45 <lza_menace> monerouser1144 ^
17:36:28 <monerouser1144> Thanks, great info!
17:39:38 * Nathan[LocalCoin sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/yeUbkpIYCnKqbRgNkCJjljYJ/message.txt >
17:43:20 <monerouser1144> PSA: A Monero "unofficial" documentation site that I've found recently is https://monerodocs.org/ - it provided answers to several questions I had and weren't covered in the other 4 sites (getmonero, monerooutreach, localmonero and monero.how)
17:58:41 <Nathan[LocalCoin> I've submitted a PR to remove the engine restriction on `monero-javascript`:
17:58:41 <Nathan[LocalCoin> https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-javascript/pull/43
18:00:31 <Nathan[LocalCoin> Is there some reasoning I'm missing for this restriction? It's insanely restrictive to fail installation of the package on anything other than 1 legacy version of node for people using Yarn (basically everyone building modern websites in React). I ran tests fine on a newer version of node and it all seems to work
18:21:44 <monerouser1144> Can I run monerod concurrently for both mainnet and stagenet on the same Linux system (VPS)? I will create another user and config it to bind to different ports on localhost, but do I need to do anything else?
18:33:04 <hyc> it already binds to different ports for each of mainnet, stagenet, testnet
18:33:23 <hyc> there's no problem running all on the same machine
18:36:21 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Oxide#9614>: Anyone encountered scanning blockchain indefinitely on mymonero?
18:37:45 <monerouser1144> @hyc thanks, then simply creating a different Linux user to run monerod on stagenet will be enough (I suppose it's not a good idea to do it in the same account).
19:16:00 <hyc> using the same user is no problem, nothing will get in each other's way
19:18:42 <monerouser1144> @hyc Thanks, I had already set it up on a different user, works fine sofar.
20:23:26 <monerouser1144> Question: Are there any active stagenet public nodes (like those at moneroworld but for stagenet, not mainnet). Because I can't connect to those found via Google (e.g. monero-stagenet.exan.tech:38081)
20:30:24 <binaryFate> monerouser1144: check https://community.xmr.to/nodes.html