00:28:01 <CryptoMiguel> hi there, i installed the Monero app from the google play, put my secrets to see my wallet, 20 minutes later all my monero was gone, is there away to retrieve it?
00:28:41 <selsta> CryptoMiguel: how is that app called?
00:28:58 <CryptoMiguel> mymonero in google store
00:29:03 <CryptoMiguel> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mymonero.android&hl=en
00:29:15 <selsta> That’s a phishing wallet :/
00:29:27 <selsta> Only CakeWallet and Monerujo are legit Android wallets
00:29:36 <CryptoMiguel> serious?
00:29:44 <selsta> yes
00:29:45 <CryptoMiguel> so i lost all my monero?
00:30:22 <selsta> I think so :/ We have taken down this wallet 3+ times already but Google keeps approving it
00:30:36 <CryptoMiguel> dam... 22 monero...
00:31:02 <CryptoMiguel> is there no way to retrieve it?
00:31:33 <selsta> If you entered your seed the attacker moved out your funds.
00:33:49 <selsta> needmoney90: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/j2ya8i/fake_mymonero_android_app_please_help_reporting/
00:33:51 <selsta> can you approve?
00:34:11 <selsta> or I can just repost without "help" in the title..
00:34:27 <needmoney90> It's fine.
00:34:31 <selsta> ty
00:35:17 <needmoney90> At least you know the triggers
00:35:41 <selsta> CryptoMiguel: I know this is too late now, but https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/ has an overview of wallets
00:36:02 <selsta> It’s quite unfortunate that Google keeps approving fake wallets, multiple people have lost XMR like this
00:36:38 <kinghat[m]> how would they know though?
00:36:50 <selsta> The exact same app has been taken down 3 times now
00:37:03 <selsta> they keep reapproving the same phishing app
00:37:28 <selsta> Google claims they are so good with "AI" and their system can’t even handle this? lol
00:37:32 <kinghat[m]> thats bad, ya. but how would you know from a new account/app?
00:38:09 <kinghat[m]> i donno man, it says my apps are verified safe
00:38:26 <selsta> hmm I wonder if the scammer took down the app listing so that we couldn’t report it
00:38:37 <selsta> so that people were thinking that it got taken down
00:47:59 <duso> I can't find it in the play store to report either
00:48:29 <selsta> Yes, it was online a couple minutes ago.
00:48:50 <selsta> That’s why I suspect that the scammer monitors Reddit / IRC and takes the play store listing offline one we post about it
00:48:51 <duso> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xmr.org.freewallet.app
00:48:54 <selsta> so that it can’t get reported
00:49:06 <selsta> once*
00:49:57 <duso> is freewallet.org legit?
00:50:15 <selsta> no
00:50:42 <duso> seems dodge that it advertises xmr.org.freewallet.app
00:52:17 <duso> wonder if you can put in some testchain creds, wireshark the traffic and see where its sending your keys too.
00:52:44 <selsta> freewallet has your keys
00:52:55 <duso> wish I had more time to play with android SDK and mess with these scammers
00:53:08 <selsta> see https://www.reddit.com/r/monero/wiki/avoid for freewallet
04:24:56 <mmxxx[m]> What's driving up the xmr price?
04:36:48 <nioc> it's awesome
04:39:13 <bigslim[m]> I just noticed. Xmr on the run. Charts don’t lie
06:15:13 <Inge-> $10 makes everyone a moonboy
07:31:58 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] KaHaR#9117>: that company that got hired to crack xmr, bought xmr
07:44:52 <algo_max[m]> <mmxxx[m] "What's driving up the xmr price?"> it's monero <3.. or some poor company trying to acquire 150M monero to their encrypted files back.
07:45:01 <azy> lol
07:45:14 <algo_max[m]> > <@mmxxx:matrix.org> What's driving up the xmr price?
07:45:14 <algo_max[m]>  * it's monero <3.. or some poor company trying to acquire 150M monero to get their encrypted files back.
08:31:27 <raecarruth> wat is causing the xmr price spike?
08:32:19 <Mochi101> seth1 sold some XMR yesterday raecarruth
08:32:36 <Mochi101> er
08:32:44 <Mochi101> sech1 sold some yesterday
08:34:17 <raecarruth> how much was sold?
08:39:31 <devaux[m]> KuCoin money in XMR?
08:39:46 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> All of it, there is only one Monero left on the market
08:46:29 <Mochi101> raecarruth, I think sech1 said he sold around 3% of his total bag
08:52:22 <Mochi101> So like, 200k probably
08:52:39 <sech1> yes, 200k XMR was 3% of my bag
08:52:59 <asy> sech1: is it true that you hold more xmr than there is in circulation?
08:53:07 <sech1> no
08:53:08 <sech1> do the math
08:53:19 <asy> .c 200000 / 0.003
08:53:44 <sech1> you can't math
08:53:51 <Mochi101> hehe
08:54:05 <Mochi101> true!
08:54:15 <sech1> I'm not going to tell the actual numbers, you know
08:54:26 <devaux[m]> I hope he didn't work on the XMR algo
08:54:46 <Mochi101> asy is sarang's replacement
08:54:46 * asy is half asleep
08:54:47 <asy> so you don't have 66.6 million out of the 17.7 million xmr currently floating around?
08:54:57 <sech1> no
08:55:22 <sech1> 3% is not 0.003 lol
08:55:46 <asy> well, that's just your opinion!
08:56:10 <asy> false alarm. he's just a small fry with only6.6 million
09:15:07 <charolastra> lame
10:27:57 <moneromooo> And the privacy asshole of the day is... Firefox, for loading some new Mozilla page on startup *again*. And to tell me about privacy, even. Hypocritical cunts.
10:28:32 <moneromooo> Now if someone who is not brave could make a privacy focused fork of FF, that would be great.
10:29:22 <artefact> use the ghacks user.js
10:29:38 <artefact> https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/browsers.html old but still good
10:29:43 <moneromooo> No.
10:30:16 <moneromooo> I am SO done with going through the neverending lists of settings to change that get out of date so soon because FF adds and changes mre.
10:30:42 <moneromooo> This is not a solution. It's like saying Bitcoin;s private if you jump through all these hoops.
10:30:50 <moneromooo> One so easy to make slip and you're screwed again.
10:31:24 <artefact> i never said it's a solution
10:31:36 <moneromooo> Right. Technically you told me what to do.
10:31:39 <artefact> it's a work around. and firefox is still the only browser that can do container tabs, afaik
10:32:01 <moneromooo> And I'm telling you why I'm not gonna bother.,
10:37:02 <asy> https://www.dillo.org/
11:27:25 <pyu> in #monero-dev
14:16:46 <_I3^RELATIVISM> asy: UXP based browsers are the best option for me
14:16:57 <_I3^RELATIVISM> basilik
14:41:33 <gyt0> hello, could someone help me. My log is flooded with lines like this: ERROR txpool src/cryptonote_core/tx_pool.cpp:1394 failed to find tx meta. How to fix it?
14:43:35 <Mochi101> gyt0, do you have the latest release?
14:44:24 <dEBRUYNE> gyt0: <moneromooo> You can ignore it, it's harmless.
14:45:18 <gyt0> Mochi101, yes
14:47:12 <gyt0> dEBRUYNE, how does it affect the solo mining? there are ca. 10 lines per sec
14:47:33 <dEBRUYNE> Shouldn't have any affect as far as I can see
14:49:28 <gyt0> dEBRUYNE, thank you
16:40:41 <nioc> Mochi101: wat is the latest release
16:43:03 <Mochi101> 0.17.0.1 for CLI
19:50:30 <ForeverNoob[m]> hi, is there a way to set up Google Authenticator style OTP on `monero-gui`?
19:51:57 <hyc> instead of the regular passphrase?
19:52:04 <hyc> no
19:53:21 <ForeverNoob[m]> no, in tandem.
19:53:32 <ForeverNoob[m]> I'd love to have a regular passphrase + 2FA OTP on my phone
19:54:30 <hyc> I guess you could do it but it'd be just for show
19:55:00 <hyc> the passphrase actually encrypts your wallet data
19:55:44 <hyc> without it, nothing can work. an OTP check is meaningless, without it, if you captured the passphrase already, you can still do everything.
19:57:04 <hyc> if a hacker can get your passphrase, you're toast, and OTP is irrelevant
19:58:14 <ForeverNoob[m]> surely that would be passphrase + keys = toast, no?
19:58:34 <ForeverNoob[m]> because passphrase without keys is just meaningless AFAIK
19:59:07 <hyc> the passphrase decrypts your wallet data. which includes your keys.
19:59:39 <ForeverNoob[m]> true, but if an attacker would only have my passphrase, would the attacker be able to generate the keys from the passphrase alone?
19:59:54 <hv-bridge> <NM$L> hello guys
20:00:00 <hyc> no of course not
20:00:12 <hyc> the passphrase is an arbitrary bunch of text you chose
20:00:18 <hyc> it has no relation to he keys
20:00:19 <hv-bridge> <NM$L> are you guys bot ?
20:00:22 <ForeverNoob[m]> right, that's what I meant.
20:00:34 <hyc> but if the hacker got onto your device, and can get your wallet file ...
20:00:42 <ForeverNoob[m]> yep