09:41:37 <duso> Just got my ledger. Now the problem I have is do I continue to keep using the monero-cli-wallet that I have always used or learn the new ledger wallet?
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10:22:38 <selsta> duso: Ledger only support cli or monero gui
10:59:37 <dEBRUYNE> duso: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/8503/how-do-i-generate-a-ledger-monero-wallet-with-the-cli-monero-wallet-cli
11:17:29 <duso> Hmm I just opened my cli wallet and keep getting this prompt when trying to refresh -"Enter password (output received):" and when I put in my password it just keeps repeating.Why is it so?
11:24:02 <duso> Thanks for that link, I will give it a go after work tomorrow when I am less tired. Just for my understanding, this is copying my existing public/private key to my ledger?
11:25:03 <asy> duso: you want to use the private key generated by your ledger, not one that's been on a dirty online computer :D
11:27:37 <selsta> duso: which version are you using?
11:28:22 <duso> what about one that has been on a sandboxed vm that connects to another vm in my dmz running monerod? with strict firewall rules and logging to elastic search?
11:29:37 <duso> 16.0.3
11:31:21 <duso> I restarted my monerod daemon as it kept saying 0 blocks received, then it refreshed ok when I put in my password.
11:34:20 <duso> so all good. Still learning crypto, and now  this ledger. I just don't understand why it has to be so complicated when it is just pki on a distrubed ledger - honestly I think keepass is the best method I have to organise my accounts / private keys
11:37:17 <duso> and at the end of the day, isn't that all a ledger is? Just an encrypted USB to store key pairs?
11:37:40 <hyc> it does more than store them
11:37:47 <duso> anyway, its late and I'm tired, so night all.
11:37:54 <hyc> it has to do actual transaction computations on the device
11:38:12 <hyc> otherwise, doing the computations on your PC would require it to give your keys out to the PC
11:38:27 <hyc> so no, it's not just an encrypted USB storage
11:40:11 <duso> hmm ok, guess I had not thought that deep into it. That makes sense to my limited understanding, I would like to dive deeper into it - but not tonight
15:20:46 <wooky> https://downloads.getmonero.org/cli/monero-linux-x64-v0.16.0.3.tar.bz2
15:20:50 <sethsimmons> Hey wooky, lets chat here. What issues are you having?
15:21:14 <wooky> thank you
15:21:50 <wooky> I need help about how to run a cli wallet on Ubuntu OS
15:22:20 <wooky> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/ledger-wallet-cli.html#3-linux
15:23:09 <sethsimmons> You can just run it in the terminal, but is there a specific reason you're wanting to use CLI?
15:23:10 <wooky> I found some informations here
15:23:26 <sethsimmons> If you're not familiar with CLIs in general you should probably just run the GUI
15:23:45 <wooky> I just want to know how to use it because of intrerestiing
15:24:05 <sethsimmons> Then just play around with it following the guide and let us know if you run into issues :)
15:24:16 <sethsimmons> I've never used Ledger on CLI before, I always use the GUI with it.
15:24:33 <wooky> thank you any way
15:24:54 <wooky> I will try out myself then
15:25:29 <ErCiccione[m]> wooky: If you need to simply create a wallet with the CLI take a look at https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/monero-wallet-cli.html
15:26:00 <ErCiccione[m]> for general info about the CLI monerodocs.org is a very good resource
15:26:25 <wooky> ok cool , I am  checking it out
15:26:56 <wooky> thank you
19:49:10 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Hah, biggest CLSAG transaction ever! Dare to top that :) https://testnet.xmrchain.com/tx/b3b0dc033341f3a52313fa9e9dd20795fc610b2d3a5a9028861772f0fd835fde
19:49:24 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Went through without problems
20:06:43 <sethsimmons> 66kb 😂
20:18:28 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> And a multisig transaction: b81f40f33bf77c2c3a4ed625148615f573ab552d4f65b12d1e2462c3b5989891, plus mined successfully to a multisig wallet. Works. Enough testing for today :)
20:53:48 <nioc> \o/
22:23:32 <Thominus> Would anyone happen to know how big (disk-space wise) is the stagenet blockchain ? wondering if I'll have enough space to sync
22:27:22 <selsta> I would guess 6-7GB or so
22:28:00 <ndorf> 6.4G	stagenet/lmdb
22:28:09 <ndorf> just pretend that's a space
22:28:10 <Thominus> ah good - thanks very much !!
22:28:40 <selsta> testnet is smaller