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azy
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anicow
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orion
Hi. How do I send the entire contents of my wallet to a friend using the CLI? I need to take in to account network fees.
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asy
orion: you can use the sweep_all command
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asy
sweep_all yourfriendsaddress
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asy
you might need to add index=all if some of the coins are "in" a subaddress
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artefact
if you lave lots of separate inputs, might be better to do multiple transactions
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orion
asy: Thanks!
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orion
artefact: What is the technical reason for that?
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asy
orion: one reason might be that if you spend multiple inputs at once, it links the ownership of them together. another is that the transaction can get big, but i think in that case the wallet will offer to split it up for you
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orion
Ah, good point.
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orion
How long does it usually take to complete a "sweep_all" command? It's been about 2 minutes and I haven't gotten any response since entering my password.
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orion
Aww... segmentation fault. :/
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asy
D: i don't think it's meant to do that
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asy
if it happens again it might be helpful to the devs if you can attach a debugger and get it to print a stack trace
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selsta
orion: are you using a hardware wallet?
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orion
selsta: Yes, Trezor.
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selsta
Latest firmware? Also using v0.16.0.3?
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orion
Yes. No: v0.16.0.0-release
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orion
I've restarted the CLI, and I was prompted to allow a "Refresh" of my Trezor. This operation is taking quite a while.
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orion
Is it accurate to say that the wallet file stored on disk is really just a cache that can be re-generated at any time?
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orion
(So long as the Trezor is present)
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selsta
some data can not be regenerated but you will have access to your funds, yes
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Inge-
orion: the un-regeneratable wallet data includes destination addresses you send to and any tags you have given to addresses etc. But funds are safu with the HW wallet only (or the mnemonic seed)
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orion
Makes sense.
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selsta
HW wallets have slow processor so sweep_all taking ages is normal, depending on the amount of inputs. Segfault should not happen.
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orion
I see.
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orion
The last message printed before it crashes is "Please confirm the transaction on the device"
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selsta
Did anything show up on device?
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orion
No.
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orion
I've restared the CLI, and it's doing the refresh again. If I exit the CLI gracefully, will it write out the results of the refresh to disk so I don't have to wait >20 minutes between invocations?
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selsta
yes
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selsta
also please try to update to v0.16.0.3
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selsta
also just to confirm, you have Trezor firmware 2.3.3?
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orion
Confirmed. I just tried for the third time and it worked. *shrug*
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Inge-
ahaha. I tried sweep_all with like 100 inputs. That was a no-go with a HW wallet
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Inge-
it just died
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Inge-
trying
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Inge-
orion: fortunately you can do sweep_below and tune it to a manageable size and multiple operations, so you hw_wallet has a chance to do its thing
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orion
I see, thank you.
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yonatanbls[m]
What’s up
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raecarruth
the sky
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azy
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Thominus
so.. if using tx-proxy via tor: Does the node ID get sent over tor connections? - and if so: is it still the same as that used on the clearnet side? - I saw 4-year old post about it in reference to using torsocks, and wondering if that was maybe addressed in the tx-proxy implementation?
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moneromooo
It is sent. And it's not the same.
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Thominus
oh excellent
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duso
Is someone able to link me or ELI5 what difficulty and effort means with mining?
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moneromooo
difficulty is how many hashes are expected on average to find a block. A difficulty of 1 -> Every nonce will yield a valid block.
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moneromooo
Difficulty of 12 -> A twelvth of the nonces will yield a valid block on average.
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smak
ya its like the sliding scale that evens new issuance of coin with distribution among mining participants
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Thominus
Any suggestions how to find .onion peers for use with tx-proxy? So far the only list I have discovered is the ones on the moneroworld page
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duso
Thanks moneromooo , that was simple and clear, unlike any of the sites I had googled so far. So effort is how many attempts it took against current difficulty, so if currently difficulty is 12, and I solve the hash on the 6th attempt, 50% effort, but if it takes me 24 attempts, then 200% effort. ok, I get it
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asy
duso: just to confuse you, some pools show luck instead of effort. 0% luck would be 100% effort
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duso
I must be doing something wrong with xmrig though, cause in the forums they talk like 7500h/s and I only average 1200h/s with a xeon e3. bbiab
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duso
so yeah, xeon e3-1230v6 @ 3.5GHz and I get 1200h/s, I thought I would get a lot more.
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moneromooo
Huge pages ?
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duso
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duso
Huge pages are supported
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ndorf
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ndorf
looks like it only has enough L2/L3 for 4 threads.
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duso
I am not too concerned, I have xmrig running in a jail on a file server that I keep running 24/7 anyway. I just thought a xeon would get better hashrate
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duso
then I hear about people running amd 3300 etc getting 7500h/s and I get sad panda
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hyc
all intel CPUs suck at randomx
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ndorf
yup, ryzens get the best hashrate
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hyc
they're all lacking on-chip cache
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ndorf
i hope you are not paying the electric bill for that file server, lol
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duso
I am, its my home/work lab and would be running 24/7 anyway, so I don't think running xmrig on it would add too much extra costs
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sech1
4 cores, 8 MB cache, you should be doing somewhere around 2.5 kh/s
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ndorf
duso: it will definitely consume more power under load, than when idle
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sech1
of course if it's a dedicated server and not some VM. 1200 h/s in a VM is a good result
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duso
mainly doing it to contribute to the distributed monero community, especially now that the gov't is banning privacy coins here in Australia
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duso
Interesting about the claims of ciphertrace claiming they could trace monero payments, glad it all turned out to be fud
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epoch
Out of curiosity, why do you opt to chat over IRC as opposed to other encrypted alternatives i.e. matrix?
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selsta
duso: I don’t think gov has banned privacy coins in Australia.
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ndorf
they've been delisted from exchanges there, presumably in response to some kind of government pressure
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selsta
AFAIK it was due to a bank used by these exchanges.
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duso
I think we had this discussion the other day. I could not find any actual legislation but somehow they are threating to debank any exchanges that are authorised to operate in australia if they allow privacy coins
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duso
which reminds me, I wanted to learn more about atomic swaps
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ndorf
epoch: what exactly would be the point of encrypting a public chat that is open to all?
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ndorf
selsta: pure speculation of course, but wouldn't they just get a different bank if it were that simple?
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anicow
i use irc because im not at home any damn way..
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anicow
do your worst...
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selsta
ndorf: I would guess there aren’t too many banks that are crypto friendly.
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endogenic
workin on that
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ndorf
selsta: sure, but if there isn't even one, i suspect it's because they're all being pressued by their regulators, rather than coincidentally all share some deep ideological opposition to it
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bonedaddy
whats the purpose of huge pages fro monero minin?
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ndorf
bonedaddy: make it faster
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bonedaddy
is there a max number at which higher increases provide reduce performance? or can i set to some outrageous number like 1024
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bonedaddy
on linux that is using sysctl (sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=1024)
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ndorf
ideally you want 3 1GB pages and $num_threads regular (2MB)
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epoch
@ndorf to stop your isp snooping on your chat and to engage in conversation whilst remaining anonymous
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ndorf
epoch: you can connect to freenode over tor
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epoch
ndorf: ok, thanks
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ndorf
epoch: they have a hidden service,
freenode.net/news/tor-online
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ndorf
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bonedaddy
neato
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bonedaddy
thanks
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ndorf
bonedaddy: if you can't or don't want to use 1GB pages, you will want enough of the regular 2MB huge pages to make up for that.
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epoch
ndorf: thanks
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bonedaddy
interesting that script lowered my hashrate
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duso
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bonedaddy
sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=4096 boosted it by about 1.75kh/s
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ndorf
the only way it should lower your hashrate is if the 1GB part fails
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ndorf
that might happen if your system has been up for a while and in use. run it right after rebooting
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ndorf
assuming you restarted xmrig after running it, if not, definitely do that first
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bonedaddy
yea i restarted xmrig
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bonedaddy
i wonder if its because it set nr_hugepages to lower than 4096, it set it to 56
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bonedaddy
im kinda just fucking around and setting nr_hugepages as high as it goes before the machine crashes and ecah time i increase it higher hashrate goes up lol
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ndorf
yes, because with the 1GB pages, you only need 3 of those plus one 2MB page per thread.
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bonedaddy
ah ok
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ndorf
without 1GB pages, you need a lot more of the 2MB ones.
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bonedaddy
well not too shabby about 15kh/s increase from this
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bonedaddy
tyvm
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ndorf
15k increase? wow, what is your total hashrate?
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bonedaddy
without waiting for the charts to update im guessing right now 40kh/s
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ndorf
sick
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bonedaddy
still got 1 last machine to test this out on, which will bei nteresting because it doesnt have AES cpu processor and its only getting about 1.5kh without this huge page stuff
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ndorf
no AES? is it like 10+ years old?
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bonedaddy
yea
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bonedaddy
lol
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derpy_bridge_
<[discord] Yonatan#6948>: What CPU doesn't come with AES modules?
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derpy_bridge_
<[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Isn't it a basic thing?
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selsta
Raspberry?
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derpy_bridge_
<[discord] Yonatan#6948>: They don't come with AES modules?
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duso
My old pentium didn't have AES
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selsta
Yonatan: afaik no
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derpy_bridge_
<[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Lmao
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endor00[m]
nope, RPi doesn't have hardware AES
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endor00[m]
Pine64 does
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endor00[m]
maybe the RPi 4 does though, can't remember, but up to the 3B they definitely didn't
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ndorf
i had an old server with xeon L5520, released 2009 with no AES. replaced with L5630, <1yr newer, which has it
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sech1
Intel CPUs starting with Westmere (2010) have AES
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Inge-
looks like Arm-V8 has AES and sha-2 instructions. rpi4 is Cortex-A72 which is Arm-V8 if I understood things
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Inge-
on the other hand it doesn't look like it has been licensed/activated in the rpi4
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endor00[m]
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endor00[m]
That looks to be the case. No license, so it is not enabled in hardware
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hyc
none of the raspberry models have AES
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hyc
which IMO makes them utterly useless
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hyc
everything on the internet uses AES in TLS etc
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artefact
i've seen camelia used in the wild a few times in TLS