00:01:56 If your computer gets pwned, the secret keys are not there to be found. 00:14:07 moneromooo, yes, but at the other edge of the coin: I have one more technology, Trezour T, and what I think is: "what if it gets damanged"(buy a new one and wait for it), "why shall I trust Trezour ?" (If it has some vulnerability all trezour owners could be compromized). I do not have up to now a finally conclusion for my strategy yet. I do would like to know what you guys are using for long term storage, desktop wallets, cold storage, paper 00:14:07 wallets... 00:25:51 ruied have you considered multisig using the Trezor and another wallet? If you have a 2-of-3, one being a cold wallet that you never open on an online computer, one being the Trezor and one being your other setup if the Trezor gets damaged you can restore your cold wallet "fraction" from paper backup, and the Trezor wallet alone cannot spend any 00:25:51 XMR so it's protected *somewhat* from a vulnerability that, say, broadcasts the private key directly from the device 00:26:22 Test thoroughly in stagenet first of course. 00:28:08 The paper backup may need to store the multisig info from the other two as well I think 01:01:26 Adreik, no, going to check that. I saw multisig on monero-client-cli but didn't try it... I've read that we should be careful on that, when we activate the multisig in the wallet there seems to be no coming back in that wallet to a 'standard' transaction mode... 01:03:20 Yes, once you've sent to a multisig wallet I don't think it can be converted to a non-multisig spendable output 01:04:09 In the near future I will make some tests with multisig on stagenet... thanks for sharing it... 01:04:24 But I *am* fairly sure it should generate the same wallet if you later restore from keys and import the same multisig info from the other wallets. 01:04:43 But not absolutely certain as I haven't actually done this myself, hence try it out on stagenet 01:05:15 ok, I'll do that... thanks 07:55:30 ruied: biggest diff is that with a Hw wallet, your mnemonic and private key would NEVER be on a device connected to the Internet. And at least with Ledger you can easily go from Ledger mnemonic -> monero private key WITHOUT a usable Hw wallet if you need to in the future (would assume that is possible with trezor too, but check) 07:56:30 So you aren't really dependent on the hardware or the company in order to regain access to your funds 09:36:30 Inge- what is the mapping from ledger seed to private spend/view key? 10:18:33 Adreik: Ledger uses bip39 and then there is some derivation path. I have no idea of the details, but Ledger made a python program for it: https://github.com/LedgerHQ/app-monero/tree/master/tools/python 10:18:55 Does Trezor *not* use BIP39 too? 10:20:42 well, I don't know if there is any common standard from bip39 -> monero mnemonic, so I would double-check. might need a trezor-specific tool. 12:01:46 Hi everyone, new to the community. 12:01:47 Already own some xmr myself. Since changelly is distrusted which is the alternative or best way to trade other coins for monero? 12:16:02 evolbit: have a look at the exchanges section of getmonero.org - https://web.getmonero.org/community/merchants/#exchanges 12:37:24 how I can take current mempool transactions in readable format like JSON? 12:40:14 https://github.com/moneroexamples/onion-monero-blockchain-explorer#apimempool 12:41:02 or get_transaction_pool https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/daemon-rpc.html 12:41:43 https://xmrchain.net/api/mempool 12:42:31 thanks much! I was looking command in deamon-rpc but I see I missed it! 12:43:23 I think about create similar page to https://txstreet.com/ 12:43:34 but for Monero 12:44:10 thats look really cool so I think Monero also should have something similar :) 14:21:44 monero mempool is always empty. 14:37:07 17txes right now on my node 14:59:50 vtnerd: motrix documentation states we ought to use a Monero development build, does this mean current master or some dev branch? 15:05:51 good evening, has anyone ever managed to build xmrig on a raspi4? just out of interest. my build crashes when it tries to compile cryptonight stuff 15:15:42 I compiled it on rpi3b+ 15:18:38 any flags you remember that where necessary? 15:19:07 i tried with cmake -DWITH_ASM=OFF 15:19:16 but that didnt help 15:19:32 were* 15:43:32 SerHack are you arround ? 15:47:11 Yes 15:48:44 on monerointegrations/monerophp, is there any method to receive comunications from monero-wallet when an transactions happens ? 15:52:16 Do you mean like polling? No. You need to check every X seconds the list of transactions by calling get_transfers method. 15:52:55 mkay 15:53:23 zqm allow such thing, no ? I may look at it later, but for now this will do the job, thanks :) 15:53:33 Does 0mq allow that? I think yes 15:53:36 zmq could 15:53:44 but I dunno if there's any code in libwallet to use it 15:56:04 ap0calypse I don't remember having any problems with compiling it. Just install all dependencies and then cmake/make. But it only works smooth on 64-bit OS with 64-bit userland. 16:00:30 IIRC vtnerd add 0mq notifications. 16:00:33 added 16:05:23 dsc_ current master build 16:09:54 If anyone answered, I am sorry, I keep getting disconnected on my cellphone wifi so I switched to satellite. I am looking for when monero will again be available for exchange in USA but cannot find anything on the web. Would appreciate a link. 16:15:56 Kraken is in the US I think ? Reputable exchange (though it's "papers, please" exchange). 16:17:23 If wanting to go from USD to XMR, Kraken and BITTREX are the only options ATM, but are both solid. 16:17:45 If going from BTC to XMR you have lots of options, like TradeOgre, Bisq, etc 16:18:00 Also LocalMonero for USD to XMR wmfinck 16:18:07 Plenty of choices in the US. 16:20:04 More good resources/tips: https://www.monerooutreach.org/how-to-buy-monero.html 16:22:35 Thank you sethsimmons... I have some monero on Exodus and I would like to get it out, it has been unavailable for two days, or maybe three, and I cannot find info on the exchange itself. 16:23:25 [17:15:57] Kraken is in the US I think ? Reputable exchange (though it's "papers, please" exchange). 16:23:35 it is a must go if you want to work with fiat :( 16:26:11 Yes, I almost joined Kracken but liked Exodus better at the time. I have a Gemini account where I can exchange BTC for fiat, but right now I cannot exchange monero for anything... so that is why I came to ask here. 16:26:58 you can exchange monero to btc through xmr.to 16:27:25 You can’t withdraw your Monero from the Exodus wallet? 16:27:45 Oh I can withdraw it, but I cannot exchange it. 16:28:15 It says on their website only that exchange is temporarily unavailable in US 16:28:28 So I thought I might fins out why here. 16:28:56 Thanks MalMen I will make a note of that. 16:32:48 damn, 1m blocks on testnet 16:32:57 cant we start from the scratch ? :P 17:29:02 vtnerd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4UKtZZkvc 17:52:44 how did I not know about antique terminal emulators?! 17:54:27 the framerate was pretty smooth too 17:54:56 higher framerate than those it emulates :P 17:55:13 allthough CRT's had a pretty high refresh rate.. hmmz 19:47:23 https://twitter.com/xmrdsc/status/1297620436184899585 20:00:15 vtnerd: Do you want an 'XMR Contributor' flair on Reddit btw? 20:30:25 sure 20:31:56 dEBRUYNE ^ 21:09:55 vtnerd: All right, will add