01:10:38 <Guest_53> Henlo, gentlemen
01:15:32 <Guest_53> I would like to make a crypto based off monero. Not something trying to be monero, but something meme based for mostly laughs and giggles.I chose Monero because it uses RandomX, and find it very important to give regular people a chance at mining the coin instead of some rich whales coming in to take over the place. Can anyone help? I can't find a
01:15:33 <Guest_53> forking guide. I tried the cryptonote forking guide, but it only takes me so far. I was sent here from the dev IRC channel saying this is the place most likely to get help.
01:16:37 <monerod[m]> wownero already exist
01:16:42 <hyc> RandomX is good stuff, but it won't prevent whales from taking over
01:17:18 <hyc> if they have money to sink into mining, they can just buy a few thousand server CPUs or whatever
01:18:22 <hyc> RandomX certainly changes the cost/benefit ratio tho
01:18:35 <Guest_53> monerod, that doesn't mean there's no place for another fork - i can't give the details but mine will be very funny. ive already shown the idea to some friends and they loved it. itll be funnier than wownero by far.
01:19:13 <Guest_53> hyc - i know its no clear solution but i insist on using monero so i do my best to give people a fair shot
01:21:34 <monerod[m]> You should choose a algo with crap coins on them and u might get some miners
01:23:33 <Guest_53> look i already decided what i want to use for this, it's monero
01:25:09 <monerod[m]> Gl
04:03:19 <berken> How can I enumerate all outgoing transfers from my wallet using the RPC? I've tried looping every block number and doing get_transfers with out:true, min_height:blockN-1 and max_height:blockN+1 but nothing is returned
04:08:05 <berken> In fact, I can't even outgoing txs with get_transfer_by_txid. Are they pruned?
04:32:03 <mmxxx[m]> Ok. What is causing the xmr value to spike against fiat?
04:34:14 <branchfractal> looking for laptop recommendations, want to play around with linux and do all my crypto stuff there. I've heard Thinkpad is good. Thoughts guys?
04:34:26 <branchfractal> currently my daily driver is mbpro 15 inch
04:39:41 <mmxxx[m]> Thinkpad x series
04:39:58 <mmxxx[m]> Best for linux in my experience
05:10:22 <branchfractal> mmxxx: thanks for the tip. what about desktops?
05:20:36 <mmxxx[m]> branchfractal: i haven't bought a desktop in over a decad
05:20:38 <mmxxx[m]> e
05:20:42 <mmxxx[m]> i'm the wrong person to ask
06:26:04 <strike> branchfractal: Buy a nitropad
06:48:57 <branchfractal> strike: shill me on the nitropad
07:28:44 <artefact> pinebook pro also nice =)
08:46:47 <duso> Has anyone heard of polkadot? Is there any plans in the future to interface the monero blockchain with other blockchains like polkadot, link etc? Would this reduce the privacy of monero if inter-blockchain communication was enabled? What do people think?
09:13:49 <mmxxx[m]> <duso "Has anyone heard of polkadot? Is"> I saw it advertised on an exchange. Know nothing about it. Why would xmr interfoce with polkadot? Who would benefit?
09:14:07 <mmxxx[m]> * I saw it advertised on an exchange. Know nothing about it. Why would xmr interface with polkadot? Who would benefit?
10:21:27 <duso> Allow inter-blockchain communication. Who would benefit? Well, then they wrote tcp/ip to allow inter-network communication, how did they know what that would would spawn?
10:27:11 <Inge-> how has tcp/ip worked out regarding security and privacy?
10:35:43 <duso> Which is why I asked, would inter-blockchain communication compromise the privacy of monero.
10:55:23 <Inge-> It can only make it worse
11:03:06 <gingeropolous> berken, saw ure msg in -dev. Is this a restored wallet? though that stuff should be on the chain
11:03:31 <gingeropolous> some tx meta data is stored locally in the wallet, and doesn't persist if you kill the wallet file
11:04:39 <selsta> Also did you set the correct restore height?
11:05:07 <gingeropolous> yeah that could do it
11:05:41 <gingeropolous> i wonder if a simple troubleshooting dialog could be introduced
11:05:51 <gingeropolous> the whole restore height thing is very common
11:06:43 <gingeropolous> like in the CLI, there's a "troubleshoot" command. It then provides like 5 options. First option being "I'm not seeing transaction I know exist"
11:06:58 <gingeropolous> user enters "1", then the CLI suggests rescanning the blockchain
11:07:17 <gingeropolous> although thats the extent of options i can think of for now
11:07:52 <gingeropolous> another could be "My transaction isn't showing up on all the block explorers"
11:08:10 <gingeropolous> then the program could try and find new peers, assumption is bad peer blackhole
11:08:18 <gingeropolous> though that should be automagic now
20:44:19 <diglet> Can I run two monerods accessing the same blockchain?
20:51:37 <knaccc> needmoney90 sgp_ where do i submit an answer to that traceability contest?
20:51:46 <needmoney90> PM me
20:51:54 * sgp_ grabs popcorn
20:52:04 <needmoney90> I Monero really traceable? :o
20:52:05 <knaccc> ooh nice, thanks. i have a very thorough analysis :)
20:52:09 <needmoney90> \o/
20:52:30 <knaccc> i need to write it up, it'll take a few minutes
20:52:33 <needmoney90> ok!
20:52:33 <sgp_> leave it to you to do better than every single chain analysis company ever haha
20:52:36 <needmoney90> Looking forward to it
20:52:41 <needmoney90> How many did you find? :o
20:52:54 <knaccc> not sure, but lots, depending on how many levels deep you go
20:52:55 <needmoney90> If you found Mr. Churns I'll be impressed
20:53:10 <knaccc> i even have the max possible anonymity set size for each botfinex output
20:53:16 <needmoney90> :o
20:53:32 <needmoney90> is this new software that we'll benefit from? Or manual? :D
20:53:48 <knaccc> i.e. infinite backward recursion, stopping at the block where trinance gets its first output
20:53:55 <knaccc> actually i've been working on this code for weeks
20:53:59 <needmoney90> Oh you reused the code we did before
20:53:59 <knaccc> just happens to be useful for this
20:54:05 <sgp_> lol cheater
20:54:08 <knaccc> heh :)
20:54:13 <sgp_> :)
20:54:20 <sgp_> I tried doing that manually and it was terrible
20:55:50 <knaccc> yeah i can see that would suck
20:55:57 <knaccc> it would probably take less time though
20:56:21 <knaccc> it took my 4 hours just to get started and sync 2 weeks of blocks
20:56:47 <moneromooo> diglet: yes, but if you're mining you'll probably get some annoying but ultimately harmless messages.
20:57:09 <gingeropolous> you can do that now? 2 monerods?
20:57:13 <leonardus> is there any chance confirmation speed will improve in the future?
20:57:24 <leonardus> (through changes in monero, not the size of the network or anything)
20:57:35 <gingeropolous> well, that depends on the network
20:57:40 <moneromooo> However, if one of these daemons is on clearnet and the other on i2p or tor, running on the same chain can help a peer link the two.
20:57:40 <gingeropolous> i mean the internet
20:58:30 <moneromooo> Unlikely. Consensus drives the dificulty to target 2 minutes per block, and there's been no interest at all for changing that target.
20:58:49 <gingeropolous> although with some new fiber development, we might see a network capable of shorter blocks. https://newatlas.com/telecommunications/internet-speed-record178-terabits-per-second/
20:58:56 <moneromooo> Some sort of faster second layer is plausible though, at some point.
20:59:01 <sgp_> I spent about 4 hours to "trace" 2 outputs, though only 1 was probably likely given the relatively small number of paths
21:01:32 <diglet> moneromooo: cool, was not mining or having them appear separate just want to be able to tweak one's conf while the other still syncs
21:03:00 <knaccc> sgp_ haha i'd never have had the patience to do that :)