02:25:41 <duso> Is there any good open source multi crypto wallets out there? Googling has found a bunch of web wallets and exchange wallets that I would not trust. Basically I am using keepass at the moment to keep my keys organised =/
02:26:17 <duso> Lite wallets I mean, monerod is the only full node wallet I want to run.
03:47:25 <Nizumzen> very stupid question but how big is the full monero blockchain when fully synced with monerod?
03:50:03 <lza_menace> right now my node is at 88 GB (unpruned)
03:58:26 <mmxxx[m]> O_0
04:01:23 <Nizumzen> thanks - that helps - I want to run a VPS which is just a monerod node and I needed to know how much storage I would need to pay for
04:06:52 <niocbrrrrrr> Nizumzen: it can also be run pruned, if you sync with pruned mode it is I think around 35 GB
04:37:54 <Nizumzen> Does pruned mode have any disadvantages?
05:33:31 <Smear\gle> How does Coinomi fare in the wallets for Monero?
06:33:43 <monerod[m]> <Smear\gle "How does Coinomi fare in the wal"> Not good.  Use a wallet that is mentioned on the official monero website
06:34:18 <Smear\gle> Any details as to *why?*
06:34:34 <monerod[m]> The code is not open source
06:35:20 <Smear\gle> is there any real rationale beyond source concerns?
06:35:38 <monerod[m]> Yeah
06:36:30 <monerod[m]> They were caught mistakenly spell checking all users seed words on Google
06:37:13 <monerod[m]> So they are noobs obviously.  open source makes thinks secure as more people can check the code for flaws
06:37:49 <Smear\gle> So how do we know they were doing that to seed words?
06:38:31 <monerod[m]> Use goodle
06:38:39 <monerod[m]>  * Use google
06:38:44 <Smear\gle> but I also say mega oof if they were transmitting seed words
06:38:45 <monerod[m]> it was quite the news
06:39:38 <monerod[m]> https://medium.com/coinomi/official-statement-on-spell-check-findings-547ca348676b
06:39:45 <Smear\gle> that means that probably...a lot of poor souls seeds exist in an archive somewhere on google servers...along with gods knows what metadata
06:40:02 <monerod[m]> Their "official statemsts"
06:40:02 <monerod[m]> Also "not open source"
06:45:09 <monerod[m]> <Smear\gle "that means that probably...a lot"> Im sure it is yes.
06:45:26 * monerod[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/bynwRtbLbCrFAyRqVLdPEXrU/message.txt >
06:59:07 <endor00[m]> <Smear\gle "So how do we know they were doin"> They were actually caught by someone running traffic analysis because they noticed some connection going on in the background when they were not expecting any
07:00:24 <endor00[m]> If you dig around a bit, you'll find the guy's website where he describes in technical detail how he found out
08:11:41 <lza_menace> Nizumzen: I think your node can't replicate the entire chain after pruning
08:14:51 <Nizumzen> ok so I don't want to prune in that case
08:15:43 <Nizumzen> thanks for the info
09:46:50 <selsta> Nizumzen: you can prune without disadvantages, all transaction history will still be available, only unnecessary ring signature data gets pruned
09:47:18 <selsta> also also it will reduce the blockchain size to ~28GB
09:55:17 <artefact> only flaw of pruning afaik, is that you can only send 1/8th of the chain to other syncing nodes
09:56:10 <as0zial> yo guys
09:56:20 <as0zial> I want to run monero node on Rockpro64
09:56:33 <as0zial> I just use the ARMv8 image from github?
09:56:41 <as0zial> running manjaro-arm
09:57:41 <selsta> artefact: --sync-pruned-blocks
09:58:06 <selsta> (but disabled by default at the moment)
09:59:17 <selsta> as0zial: getmonero.org also has ARM binaries
09:59:41 <selsta> should be the same as the one linked on github
10:00:24 <as0zial> selsta the Linux ARMv8 is the correct image for Rockpro64?
10:02:45 <selsta> I guess so.
15:04:19 <anicow> moo.
15:43:13 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> hey
15:43:39 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> need some help
15:46:17 <artefact> don't ask to ask on irc
16:01:37 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> irc?  as in mirc.com?
16:02:13 <moneromooo> mirc is an IRC client, yes.
16:02:29 <moneromooo> What artefact meant is: just ask your question, and wait until someone who knows reads and replies.
16:09:09 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> cannot connect to daemon on GUI wallet.  getting error message "monerod.exe" executable is missing.  when i try to manually run "monerod.exe" nothing happens.  any tips?
16:09:23 <selsta> jkk1 anti virus?
16:09:40 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> maybe, should i turn anti-virus off?
16:09:46 <monerod[m]> Unblock all monero files and folders in wondows deffender
16:10:04 <monerod[m]> and ay other antivirus
16:10:10 <monerod[m]>  * and any other antivirus
16:10:14 <xmrmatterbridge> <jkk1> ok will give it a shot, thank you
16:10:26 <monerod[m]>  * Unblock all monero files and folders in windows deffender
16:33:38 <vtnerd> 4
17:16:52 <multifractal> I'm trying to do my first send of monero. I'm on the GUI wallet app on tails. After 18 minutes I'm still seeing 0 confirmations, is this normal??
17:17:35 <monerod[m]> <multifractal "I'm trying to do my first send o"> No, is your wallet synced?
17:17:39 <multifractal> oh wait, now it's saying 1/10 confirmations. I guess it's working properly? :)
17:18:04 <monerod[m]> Ah your connection probably is slow trught all tunnels
17:18:20 <monerod[m]>  * Ah your connection probably is slow trough all tunnels
17:19:19 <multifractal> So I will just wait a while. And then after 10 onfirmations, the recipient wallet will see it arrive?
17:20:00 <monerod[m]> He will see it before that. But will be able to spend it after 10
17:20:26 <multifractal> awesome, thank you for the advice
17:20:29 <fahrradflucht> "normal" would be more like 2-3 minutes. So it probably took very long for you to broadcast the tx as well as receive the confirmations. Might be quicker now to monitor the transaction in a block explorer. (Mind your opsec though)
19:48:06 <christnofskimn> anyone know of a good crowdfunding platform that accepts monero and cc payments? Ideally self hosted.
19:50:20 <christnofskimn> btcpays has a great patreon replacement that you can plug cc payments but its not a good kickstarter replacement
20:32:33 <selsta> moneromooo: should the sync-pruned-blocks flag result in faster syncing time? or what are the advantages?
20:33:08 <selsta> less bandwidth?
20:37:06 <moneromooo> The latter, implying the former on some machines. Also less I/O (less stuff to save).
20:38:53 <kayabaNerve> Does h4sh3d use IRC at all?
20:39:12 <kayabaNerve> Debated asking this in monero-dev, sorry if this is the wrong place.
20:42:22 <kayabaNerve> Doesn't appear so according to whois, just figured I'd check with the community in case.
20:43:25 <niocbrrrrrr> kayabaNerve: he is currently bridged from matrix but not in this room
20:44:34 <kayabaNerve> niocbrrrrrr: Thanks for the heads up. Mind letting me know what room?
20:45:30 <niocbrrrrrr> #monero-dev and #monero-research-lab
20:46:57 <kayabaNerve> Thank you
22:28:01 <anicow> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azq0S0DKS50