07:55:52 <mmxxx[m]> Question - why was hitbtc.com singled out as the only exchance not to trade with?
08:26:42 <Inge-> ask mcafee?
08:28:32 <mmxxx[m]> <Inge- "ask mcafee?"> Idgx
08:28:41 <mmxxx[m]> * Idgi
09:11:47 <artefact> mmxxx[m]: see link in /topic
10:36:31 <mmxxx[m]> <artefact "mmxxx: see link in /topic"> The forum link?
10:39:21 <artefact> there's only one link in there.
10:39:27 <mmxxx[m]> <artefact "mmxxx: see link in /topic"> Neither link answers my question
10:40:33 <selsta> mmxxx[m]: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2930/which-entities-are-related-to-bytecoin-and-minergate
10:40:37 <mmxxx[m]> <artefact "there's only one link in there."> https://forum.getmonero.org/
10:41:15 <artefact> https://www.reddit.com/r/monero/wiki/avoid
10:42:18 <mmxxx[m]> two links
10:44:15 <selsta> mmxxx[m]: you might see a different topic because you are on matrix
10:44:30 <selsta> this one has only one link
10:49:16 <mmxxx[m]> <selsta "this one has only one link"> So it would seem.
11:56:07 <zib> moneromooo: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6687  , saw you answered this. I have the same errors but i'm not mining. What does it mean? :D
11:58:31 <artefact> 0 out peers? yeah, makes sense you wouldn't be able to send a tx
12:00:34 <zib> oh sorry. I mean i have the error "failed to find tx meta" . But I have many out/in peers
12:01:02 <moneromooo> zib: someone recently found it had to do with dandelion. Please add a comment there that you are not mining, I thought it was only when mining, so it's good to know it's not only then. AFAIK it's harmless.
12:01:34 <artefact> how did you get these msgwriter summaries in your log? that's nice
12:01:35 <moneromooo> The timing of appearance matches with dandelion too.
12:41:41 <zib> moneromooo: ok
16:57:16 <multifractal> As a total newcomer to monero I'm struggling. I'm on tails OS. First I gave up trying to use the command line version, as I kept getting an error about the daemon not running, and all the guides I could find seemed to assume a lot of knowledge about monero and networking. Now I'm attempting the GUI version, and it also is hanging on "Waiting for daemon to start".
16:58:33 <monerod[m]> You are not the first one who had this issue, Check the history in this chat, Probably something something for you here
16:58:49 <multifractal> how do i do that? I'm on smuxi irc client
17:01:48 <monerod[m]> <multifractal "how do i do that? I'm on smuxi i"> https://www.reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments/hpd1l5/monero_gui_on_tails_will_not_connect_to_daemon/
17:02:44 <multifractal> oh great so i need a 100GB+ memory stick?
17:04:13 <monerod[m]> <multifractal "oh great so i need a 100GB+ memo"> Yeah the blockchain is big and growing
17:05:29 <ErCiccione> That's not true. There are some workarounds but CLI and GUI work on tails
17:05:36 <multifractal> wish i'd known this before i just bought this 32gb stick from the supermarket.
17:06:16 <islanders> lol
17:06:23 <moneromooo> 32 GB is enough for a pruned chain.
17:06:23 <monerod[m]> <multifractal "wish i'd known this before i jus"> If you have a secondary hdd on the machine that is bigger you may choose where the chain is stored
17:06:39 <islanders> matrix is a spyware
17:06:41 <moneromooo> Start monerod with --prune-blockchain.
17:06:42 <islanders> gtfo
17:07:08 <moneromooo> (I think a pruned chain is about 27 GB or so).
17:07:11 <islanders> why do you connect us to a spyware
17:07:18 <monerod[m]> I have a full node.
17:07:41 <moneromooo> This channel is public. You can assume there's plenty of snoops around, whether matrix or not.
17:07:43 <monerod[m]> Remove the bot bridging my connection, I am not the source
17:09:38 <multifractal> is 128GB going to be sufficient? If I hurry I can get one from the store nearby me.
17:09:58 <monerod[m]> <multifractal "is 128GB going to be sufficient?"> it will
17:10:50 <artefact> are you actually going to download the whole chain... on tails?
17:10:58 <artefact> or am i thinking of the wrong tails?
17:11:02 <selsta> There is a tutorial for it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/h8pbc2/guide_setting_up_a_monero_full_node_on_tails/
17:11:35 <multifractal> artefact: I have no idea what I'm doing. Somebody told me that was necessary 2 minutes ago
17:11:42 <artefact> afaik using a remote onion node is GRAS
17:12:00 <islanders> what's your goal multifractal ?
17:12:09 <multifractal> to have a monero wallet on tails
17:12:14 <islanders> ok
17:12:42 <islanders> and you don't want a light wallet
17:12:43 <moneromooo> If you can, sync the chain on a SSD first, then copy it to your USB. It'll be a lot faster.
17:12:51 <selsta> http://xmrguide42y34onq.onion/tails
17:12:56 <selsta> ^ most up to date tails guide
17:15:04 <artefact> syncing on usb from scratch might just kill the drive, too
17:20:01 <multifractal> oh thanks selsta, this seemed to help me past the error regarding daemons.
17:47:58 <rottensox> raecarruth
17:48:22 <raecarruth> hello rottensox :)
18:07:52 <lakesh> hello
18:10:16 <sethsimmons> Hi 👋
18:13:36 <lakesh> i did a print_tx on monerod but no answer except that "found on block...."
18:13:59 <lakesh> maybe because i didnt download all blockchain?
18:14:11 <lakesh> --prune-blockchain
18:15:10 <moneromooo> You got no answer except an answer ? :)
18:15:18 <moneromooo> If you want the JSON, add "+json" at the end.
18:15:40 <moneromooo> If it's pruned, it'll be missing the signatures, but you typically don't care much about those to see what's inside.
18:16:21 <moneromooo> And +hex for the hex.
18:16:52 <lakesh> how to insert json
18:17:00 <lakesh> print_tx +json
18:17:27 <moneromooo> Print ? Add +json at the end, eg: print_tx TXID +json
18:17:34 <lakesh> ok
18:27:08 <lakesh> worked thnx
19:06:52 <boldsuck> @multifractal Fortunately, monero is different from other wallets. monerod download the blockchain. gui & cli-wallet can connect to monerod local or to some other server. You can first connect to a remote node and then set up your full node. Blockchain download need 1-2 days ca. 80Gb
19:16:05 <boldsuck> Trusted monero fullnodes: https://moneroworld.com/ If you trust me: mainnet http://cloud.boldsuck.org:18081/get_info or stagenet http://crypto.boldsuck.org:38081/get_info Both IP & IPv6
19:17:07 <artefact> we need more i2p nodes :-)
19:17:58 <kayront> read the pdf you shared the other day artefact  (re marketing in oss), good stuff
19:18:37 <monerod[m]> <artefact "we need more i2p nodes :-)"> Ah do you have a guide for how to set it up? I use I2p otherwise and do run a node. but not on I2p
19:18:41 <artefact> cool! hopefully this helps you make xmr reach world domination
19:18:58 <kayront> you'll know when we're over 9000!
19:19:04 <artefact> monerod[m]: yes, it's very easy https://web.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/node-i2p-zero.html
19:19:11 <kayront> vegeta and monero cat shall be dancing under the full moon that night!
19:19:11 <monerod[m]> Gracias!
19:19:15 <artefact> monerod[m]: if you use vanilla i2p, create the tunnels through your router interface
19:19:29 <kayront> speaking of which, whatever happened to monero cat?
19:19:31 <artefact> the wizard makes it easy, you can't get it wrong
19:19:32 <monerod[m]> <artefact "monerod: if you use vanilla i2p,"> 👌
19:20:47 <artefact> you can ignore steps 1-4, and do 5-6 from the router interface. steps 7-8 are the same
19:21:05 <boldsuck> @artefact wallet connect .onion is ready.
19:21:55 <monerod[m]> <artefact "you can ignore steps 1-4, and do"> ah good that you told me,  got confused
19:43:11 <endor00[m]> <artefact "monerod: if you use vanilla i2p,"> Is it just a "Standard" tunnel, or Socks?
19:44:12 <endor00[m]> oh sorry can't read, socks it is
19:45:21 <artefact> standard for incoming, socks for outgoing
19:45:40 <artefact> incoming being the hidden service, outgoing being the client tunnel
19:46:14 <endor00[m]> cool, thanks
19:47:24 <monerod[m]> <artefact "standard for incoming, socks for"> How do i set it to socs in the wizard ?  I guess that outgoing is "client" And incoming is "server"
19:50:44 * endor00[m] uploaded an image: new-client-tunnel.PNG (27KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MFHXteSAvOloltupvvsmVVMW/new-client-tunnel.PNG >
19:50:45 <artefact> that's exactly what my previous message says, yes
19:51:03 <endor00[m]> ^^ like that monerod
19:51:09 <artefact> you want socks client, and standard server
19:51:32 <monerod[m]> Ah socks 4/4a/5 then?
19:53:12 <endor00[m]> yes
19:53:20 <monerod[m]> thanks!
20:00:02 <monerod[m]> Where can we see the amount of l2p Monerod's?
20:04:06 <artefact> i don't know. there's print_pl|grep i2p but not sure if it's accurate of all the nodes
20:04:12 <artefact> but probably not a few. maybe ten-ish?
20:04:58 <artefact> doesn't help that the current impl isn't very good at actually connecting to i2p/onion peers
20:13:06 <kayront> i'd love to see options for *only* connectiong to tor/i2p peers (incl block propagation) -- bitcoind has had that capacity for yearsn ow
20:14:15 <monerod[m]> Ah ok. RIght now the L2p is just meshed up with all others to make it more confusing for analytics?
20:16:43 <artefact> i2p not "l"2p
20:17:10 <monerod[m]> Oh. ;D thanks 😳
20:17:16 <artefact> it's mostly for transaction anonymity. and maybe hiding from your ISP that you run a monero node
20:17:37 <artefact> but not right now, as you can't force i2p/onion nodes only, yeah
20:18:12 <monerod[m]> i see.  Well we are getting there!  Thanks for the help!
20:19:02 <kayront> yes, i'd like hiding the fact that i run a monero node. why not, after all
20:40:54 <monerod[m]> <artefact "but probably not a few. maybe te"> I did this, Closed all other i2p tunnels only having Monerod one opened when starting the router,
20:41:14 <monerod[m]> But that does not mean that all those peers are on i2p ?
20:41:19 <raecarruth> i2p? o_0
20:41:23 <raecarruth> that shit actually works?
20:42:46 <monerod[m]> <raecarruth "that shit actually works?"> Its pretty cool  :)
20:43:15 <artefact> i don't know what you mean. you can check your peers with $(monerod print_cn)
20:43:21 <artefact> i2p peers are marked as... i2p
20:43:37 <raecarruth> i2p was too slow last time I tried it
20:43:45 <raecarruth> xmr over tor makes sense
20:43:50 <artefact> this is just for --tx-proxy. not actually running a full node behind i2p
20:43:56 <raecarruth> xmr over i2p sounds like grief
20:43:59 <artefact> tor is just i2p, more centralised and with more users
20:44:42 <monerod[m]> <artefact "i2p peers are marked as... i2p"> Thanks!
20:45:07 <artefact> i like tor, too. but it's *much* easier to run an i2p node than a tor bridge
20:46:17 <selsta> yep, setting up i2p-zero + monerod is super easy
20:46:30 <selsta> should work well once the dropped connection thing is fixed
20:47:28 <monerod[m]> <artefact "i2p peers are marked as... i2p"> I cant see a single one beeing marked as i2p 😲 Where should it be?  I must have made a mistake somewhere
20:48:12 <artefact> maybe not, give it some time
20:48:48 <monerod[m]> ah, but in what field is the I2P suppose to be?  Instead of Ipv4?
20:48:51 <artefact> or try --add-priority-node instead of --add-peer, to work around (but not completely) #6631
20:49:00 <artefact> yeah
20:49:03 <monerod[m]> ok!
20:49:46 <selsta> monerod[m]: start monerod with `--add-peer sel36x6fibfzujwvt4hf5gxolz6kd3jpvbjqg6o3ud2xtionyl2q.b32.i2p`
20:49:51 <selsta> that’s my node and it is always online
20:50:16 <selsta> see this tutorial https://github.com/i2p-zero/i2p-zero/blob/master/mipseed.md
20:51:45 <artefact> can't wait until i2p-zero ships with the gui, just a tickbox to check <3
20:52:45 <monerod[m]> <selsta "monerod: start monerod with `--a"> Used that same guide when setting it up. Your node is in the peer list. But not first though as in the guide. But it should not mather hu?
20:52:55 <selsta> should not matter
20:53:11 <monerod[m]> strange that i cant see a i2p connection then
20:53:20 <selsta> when I do print_cn it shows 2 outgoing and 1 incoming i2p conneciton
20:53:29 <selsta> so it seems to be working
20:53:47 <artefact> same here. 4 out/1 inc
20:54:08 <monerod[m]> hm i must have done something wrong
20:55:32 <selsta> just let it up for a couple hours and see
20:56:46 <monerod[m]> Alright, I just confirmed the settings, Seems to be correct. And i got my 2 green dots and peers in the router tunnels list.
20:57:25 <monerod[m]> thats is what is so strange though. Im only running monerod through i2p. It is using bandwitdh but i cant see a i2p conection
20:58:55 <monerod[m]>  * thats is what is so strange though. Im only running monerod through i2p. It is using bandwitdh but i cant see a i2p connection when:  monerod print_cn
21:00:07 <artefact> i2p will use bandwidth regardless. for normal onion-y routing for other nodes
21:00:41 <monerod[m]> aha! makes sense
21:02:11 <artefact> it's like running a tor bridge, except maybe a bit more stealthy
21:04:29 <monerod[m]> moist!
21:36:50 <monerod[m]> 3 outgoing ip2 connections!
21:36:50 <monerod[m]> 😎 feels good to be a peer of the revolution
21:37:39 <monerod[m]> i2p*
21:43:02 <islanders> I like privacy but price is my priority
21:43:06 <islanders> it rhymes
21:43:11 <islanders> isn't that gr8?
21:43:18 <islanders> crypto hip hoooop
21:43:38 <islanders> monero bring me the hooeeeeees