01:01:38 <dsc_> https://github.com/tevador/monero-seed/commit/e8d58c7504f6b969bbe24b13973cf8e2b3fd4b18
01:01:41 <dsc_> \o/
03:42:21 <yanmaani> Have you guys considered doing anything to try and get the monero.org domain?
05:24:30 <endor00[m]> Was that the one owned by a domain squatter askinf for 10k xmr?
05:24:56 <yanmaani> something like that yeah
05:25:28 <yanmaani> either pay a few thousand bucks and do UDRP, or just sue him in American court for trademark infringement and bank on him not showing up
06:50:03 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Yup: https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/86865/monero-org-domain-name-and-website-for-sale
07:56:57 <lza_menace[m]> What a tool
08:11:41 <yanmaani> just sue him lol
08:12:36 <yanmaani> It costs a few hundred dollars to file a lawsuit. Either he'll have to give up the domain or drop anonymity.
08:12:56 <yanmaani> You do not need to have a waterproof claim, just anything which passes the sniff test
08:15:49 <yanmaani> "Hi I am a Monero developer and I have been using the mark to identify Monero software and also merchandise, it is a common law trademark, we have our things on getmonero.org, we would like to have your domain". It passes the sniff test. Pay a lawyer to write out the actual complaint, file it in a local court, hire someone to try to send him emails. Either he gives up or doxes himself.
08:59:27 <flaccid> hey guys, we're in a bit of a pickle. we're trying to work out the right way to get XMR in edge app on mobile, but it seems there is some gates to go through. we are trying to get currency in there to convert to FIO and pay that fee, but struggling. if anyone can help us out on some tips, much appreciated
09:05:40 <selsta> FIO ?
09:09:23 <bec8it> FIO address is required within Edge app to get the XMR receiving wallet address
09:10:18 <bec8it> we are unable to convert USDC to FIO
09:11:43 <selsta> what does FIO even mean?
09:12:40 <flaccid> its a currency
09:12:52 <selsta> ok
09:13:13 <selsta> so Edge currently only supports Monero on desktop?
09:14:01 <flaccid> selsta i don't belive they have web version, just mobile
09:14:42 <selsta> ah I get the problem now I think
09:14:49 <selsta> you have the Edge app and want monero?
09:17:00 <selsta> I’m not familiar with Edge and their exchange but you can use e.g. https://www.morphtoken.com to convert existing crypto to monero
10:03:32 <endor00[m]> <yanmaani "It costs a few hundred dollars t"> You are assuming that this guy operates under USA's jurisdiction
10:10:50 <artefact> i don't think it's that much of an issue. nobody's hand typing addresses in their uri bar nowadays
10:11:22 <artefact> if they start hosting a malicious site that pretends to be official, that's much worse
10:21:43 <yanmaani> endor00[m]: No, you can just sue him in a US court
10:21:54 <yanmaani> And serve him process
10:22:10 <yanmaani> Then you just contact the domain registrar and ahve them pull it, or his hosting provider, or whatever
11:20:07 <thepoltergeist> hh
11:20:09 <thepoltergeist> hi
11:21:18 <thepoltergeist> #list
11:44:23 <moneromooo> "Either he'll have to give up the domain or drop anonymity." is pretty shitty though. Fine in that case since it's a blackmailer but I mean in general.
11:48:29 <zib> i'll do mine xmr.se for far less if someone wants it :P
13:30:04 <yanmaani> moneromooo: That's the court system for you
13:30:25 <yanmaani> you can do that to literally any anonymous person on the Internet
13:32:02 <artefact> even if the gTLD is not operated by a us company?
14:12:34 <zsrqvq> which is the best and most immediate way to buy monero
14:12:39 <zsrqvq> i have bitcoin
14:12:49 <zsrqvq> no exchange please
14:14:46 <moneromooo> Define "no exchange". Would something like morphtoken qualify as exchange ?
14:15:07 <zsrqvq> morphtoken? i dont know what is
14:15:19 <zsrqvq> most easy i think is person to person
14:15:23 <zsrqvq> with cash
14:15:32 <moneromooo> If you find someone nearby enough.
14:15:38 <moneromooo> localmonero.something IIRC.
14:15:39 <zsrqvq> yes so no chance
14:15:45 <zsrqvq> in my country no one
14:15:49 <zsrqvq> i checked
14:16:07 <moneromooo> Then lookup morphtoken. Otherwise, bisq, but a bit of a pita, so not immediate".
14:17:07 <zsrqvq> yes bisq is hell with very good intensions but hell
14:19:26 <yanmaani> zsrqvq: Isn't there #monero-markets?
14:21:19 <artefact> no exchange? it's impossible. you can't just destroy xbt and create xmr out of thin air. you *have* to exchange it
14:21:27 <zsrqvq> morphtoken
14:21:33 <zsrqvq> thnx to moneromooo
14:21:37 <zsrqvq> im checking
14:21:40 <zsrqvq> best until now
14:37:21 <zsrqvq> moneromooo morphtoken want to send small bitcoin 0.001 somewhere
14:37:32 <zsrqvq> no warranty
14:37:38 <zsrqvq> just i must trust
14:37:43 <zsrqvq> ok is small amount
14:37:51 <zsrqvq> but just send
15:20:07 <fling> is localcoinswap a fine place to buy/sell for fiat?
15:31:44 <asymptotically> fling: haven't heard of them before, they list some scammy coins and have a referral program which is a red flag for me
15:32:42 <fling> asymptotically: I need something to replace localbitcoin and localcryptos for me
15:33:16 <asymptotically> there's localmonero.co. not sure what country you're in but there's a decent amount of users in the uk so it worked well for me
15:33:39 <fling> Russia!
15:49:33 <nakedpon_> can anyone speak to how legit this kind of offer is? https://localmonero.co/ad/buy-monero-apple-pay-united-states-of-america/4aa21808-1fe8-4a56-a218-081fe8ba56b8
15:50:21 <nakedpon_> "bada bing bada boom" as seller puts in the terms
15:58:40 <asymptotically> nakedpon_: https://localmonero.co/faq#protection
16:13:03 <nakedpon_> thank you!
16:27:04 <nakedpon_> So... I've been giving away free Monero
16:27:16 <nakedpon_> not to the likes of people in here
16:27:21 <nakedpon_> to friends, family
16:27:31 <nakedpon_> people with no awareness of crypto
16:28:12 <nakedpon_> I'm trying to help get my own circle to have it, so we can use it for person-to-person transactions. And I think the best way to do that, is to start people off with some
16:28:25 <nakedpon_> let them see how great it is. remove the mystery and the shroud of crypto
16:28:57 <nakedpon_> is anyone doing something similar to this?
16:29:57 <artefact> nope. all my immediate circle are absolutely clueless when it comes to technology of any kind
16:30:29 <nakedpon_> cake wallet. It's the greatest thing.
16:30:38 <nakedpon_> I just tell them to download it, send me their address
16:30:48 <nakedpon_> boom. now they're like whoa this is cool
16:31:47 <artefact> they're so innocent, they won't even let me install an ad blocker on their tablet
16:32:21 <nakedpon_> lol
16:32:26 <nakedpon_> I guess some people like their ads
16:46:19 <lza_menace> nakedpon_: yes, i do the same. most of my family are interested but dont have the time or strong enough desire to research on their own. I help them install cakewallet and send them like $50
16:46:49 <lza_menace> teach them the importance of saving the seed and trying to explain the basics
16:47:26 <nakedpon_> lza_menace: yes exactly the same! I send them like 0.5 XMR
16:47:34 <lza_menace> yep
16:47:44 <lza_menace> idk how effective it is. but it's fun
16:47:47 <nakedpon_> giving people a lecture first just doesn't seem to be a way that people understand
16:47:53 <lza_menace> yeah
16:47:59 <lza_menace> i send them money and then it kind of clicks
16:48:15 <moneromooo> And the importance of privacy. How people don't value good health until they fall into ill health, not value freedom until they get imprisoned, not value free speech until muzzled, etc.
16:48:20 <lza_menace> what will be cool in a couple years from now having them go back. "do you still have that seed?"
16:49:40 <nakedpon_> moneromooo: that's usually the first thing I get into, after they get the wallet basics. It's something they don't care about until they have it. If they ask if it's funny money... I'm like okay if you don't want it I'll take it off your hands
16:50:00 <nakedpon_> then they get that they suddenly value it
16:54:39 <nakedpon_> I'm curious if we could be doing this in a more systematic way
16:55:08 <nakedpon_> a little bit of monero scheming, if you will
17:01:20 <lza_menace> eh
18:08:08 <nakedpon_> lza_menace: yah
18:14:56 <lza_menace> i dont care as much these days. i hardly pay attention to the seriousness of crypto these days
18:15:03 <lza_menace> it requires a lot of time and attention
18:15:13 <lza_menace> im having way more fun making memes and shitposting with the wownero group
18:15:45 <lza_menace> d/these days$/
18:16:40 <artefact> a lot of sh*tcoins for sure. i feel like xmr is the only one worth a damn because it has non optional privacy
18:19:13 <lza_menace> haven't spent even a minute "researching" defi or any of this new shit
18:19:52 <lza_menace> sticking with the classics
19:06:40 <islanders> I like defi
19:06:47 <islanders> do you guys like it?
19:41:51 <yanmaani> no, fraud
20:10:06 <Inge-> It just looks like convoluted pyramid schemes to me
20:11:19 <lza_menace> same
20:17:34 <artefact> can't even find its official website