00:11:20 <tryphe> it doesn't exist physically but somehow is property. makes sense that it's a law.
00:11:21 <ndorf> property can't be traded for goods and services? IOW, bartering is illegal in russia?
00:19:05 <hyc> no idea. it's frowned on even in the US, because uncle sam wants to tax all transactions
03:48:01 <UkoeHB_> "Putin has now signed a law saying that crypto is property, not money, and can't be used to pay for goods and services" this is so comical
05:34:44 <mmxxx[m]> https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2020/07/164542-monero-xmr-zcash-zec-stellar-xlm-to-be-delisted-by-liquid-exchange-so-it-can-prepare-to-acquire-payment-services-license-in-singapore/
13:05:25 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Question
13:05:33 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Does my node run when my laptop is sleeping?
13:08:36 <Inge-> if the node is on your laptop, then no
13:08:40 <Inge-> Or your laptop is lying about sleeping
13:21:15 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Oh ok
13:22:15 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Another question
13:22:23 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Can I monitor incoming traffic to my node?
13:22:34 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Because it’s exposed to the public internet
13:35:08 <sethsimmons> You’d have to setup some type of proxy, like a reverse proxy using NGINX to monitor/filter/rate limit
13:35:20 <sethsimmons> Obviously you get some logging in the daemon
13:35:30 <sethsimmons> But for more advanced logs you’ll need some sort of proxy.
13:44:33 <mmxxx[m]> How long has xmr.to made provisions for btc lightning payments?
13:49:24 <rbrunner> I think the announcement was a few days ago
13:52:42 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Yep
13:52:53 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: They don’t support a lot of channels
13:52:56 <niocbrrrrrr> an
13:53:36 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Half of the lightning channels I have open don’t work with xmr.to
13:53:54 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: I would love to see a lightning network for XMR in the future
13:58:34 <mmxxx[m]> Ok. The few that I would use often seem to work.
14:01:48 <jbg> derpy_bridge_: definitely get in touch with them, together you can probably solve the reachability problems
14:02:29 <jbg> i have a small service that accepts lightning payments and it's really useful when people contact me about things like that, usually it's easily solved and makes things better for everyone
14:02:53 <jbg> oops, tagged the bridge. I meant Yonatan
14:05:16 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Already did
14:05:29 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: They said they were planning on opening more channels soon
14:05:47 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Supporting*
14:07:57 <mmxxx[m]> <jbg "i have a small service that acce"> What kind of services do you provide?
16:42:32 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: I fucked up my key management for my encrypted partition
16:42:34 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: How fucked am I
16:44:05 <Spaceguide> @yonatan : very
16:59:40 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Ahhhh
16:59:48 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Guess I’ll need to reinstall
16:59:53 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Fuck my life honestly
17:00:04 <derpy_bridge_> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: That’s why you don’t don’t mess with your keys while you’re tired
17:31:23 <Spaceguide> @yonatan.... and then...you backup, and backup the backup
23:40:59 <Adreik> Hello all; I am looking for some tech support. Upon submitting a transaction from a watch-only wallet, if I enter get_tx_key [transaction] it displays a transaction key that is blatantly wrong (all 0 except for one). I saved the transaction key from the wallet that signed the transaction which certainly looks random, however upon attempting to type
23:41:00 <Adreik> it in for set_tx_key it states that it doesn't match the pubkey of the transaction; anyone have any ideas?
23:46:31 <moneromooo> Did you do this in the hot wallet ?
23:47:05 <Adreik> No, in the watch-only wallet. It should also be able to save transaction keys, no?
23:47:41 <moneromooo> What distinction are you making here ?
23:48:59 <Adreik> Upon signing the transaction in the wallet that had both private spend and viewkey, it generated a transaction hash which is the same as the transaction that was submitted to the network. Entering "get_tx_key" [txid] generates a hex string
23:49:56 <moneromooo> The tx key is the *secret* tx key, so the hot wallet does not have it. I'll assume you meant hot wallet.
23:50:04 <Adreik> then, in the wallet that has only the private viewkey, I enter "set_tx_key [txid] [tx_key]"
23:50:54 <moneromooo> I forgot you could do this.
23:51:21 <moneromooo> So you take the secret key from the cold wallet, and set it manually in the hot wallet. And this errors out. Correct ?
23:52:22 <Adreik> Yes, it generated an error for me. This gets you the transaction key "r" which is just a randomly generated value of no connection to the private spendkey correct (based on cryptonote white paper)?
23:52:41 <Adreik> It was my understanding that I should have been able to do this?
23:53:02 <moneromooo> It is random, yes.
23:53:47 <Adreik> The wallet that broadcast it claims it has a value that is blatantly not random, and distinct from what the wallet that signed it says