04:52:36 <Adreik> Is there any function to extract the private view key from the prepare_multisig data?
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11:49:55 <Adreik> Can the private view key of a wallet be extracted from the prepare_multisig data?
12:11:30 <Adreik> When the wallet says "This includes the PRIVATE view key, so needs to be disclosed only to that multisig wallet's participants" when entering prepare_multisig, is this just a private view key that is useful for the multisig to be created or is the private view key of the originating wallet extractable from that data?
13:19:10 <moneromooo> It is the secret view key for the multisig wallet.
13:19:35 <moneromooo> cryptonote::get_multisig_blinded_secret_key(get_account().get_keys().m_view_secret_key);
16:30:29 <doktoroesperanto> is this the most active xmr irc channel?
16:35:45 <moneromooo> Depends if you like spam. #monero-markets has that.
16:56:40 <charuto> and dont forget -pools
16:57:15 <charuto> you will find different types of degeneracy in each of those channels
17:47:35 <root4> set irc.ctcp.clientinfo ""
20:02:59 <endogenic> what really is xmr
20:03:29 <dixie__flatline[> endogenic: it's a digital cash.
20:03:35 <endogenic> like dash?
20:03:44 <dixie__flatline[> think like bitcoin, but with transaction privacy supreme.
20:04:08 <endogenic> just coinjoin
20:04:42 <dixie__flatline[> endogenic: haven't used dash. I heard it has poor privacy features.
20:04:50 <endogenic> i heard it stands for digital trash
20:04:58 <endogenic> just trollin
20:05:18 <dixie__flatline[> endogenic: and only certain wallets are able to do coinjoin
20:05:19 <dixie__flatline[> https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWXU7D4VV0lB/
20:05:19 <dixie__flatline[> this video provides a good overview of differences between bitcoin, dash, zcash, and monero
20:05:19 <dixie__flatline[> spoiler alert: monero is killing it.
20:07:37 <MikeyG> xmr is a sleeper hit all day.  best community / dedicated / no frills / adopts new research tech + algos at sensible intervals (not too early, not too late)
20:08:07 <endogenic> but what about the argument that people don't necessarily need optimal privacy
20:08:13 <MikeyG> whoever's running the ship from a technical standpoint is clued af.  xmr is reddit to btc's digg.
20:08:17 <dixie__flatline[> it's a poor argument.
20:08:32 <endogenic> MikeyG: do you know about MRL?
20:08:46 <dixie__flatline[> people are realizing that they need untraceability when it comes to cryptocurrency transactions.
20:09:12 <endogenic> yes they do but there's effective untraceability … or just "privacy liquidity" … some people think that new coins will be launched
20:09:34 <MikeyG> i dont know anything about MRL.  will chat more later tho. <3
20:09:40 <endogenic> they are the ones
20:09:48 <dixie__flatline[> well, until those new coins are launched, we have monero, right here and right now.
20:10:08 <endogenic> what network effects does monero have to ensure its future usage?
20:10:19 <dixie__flatline[> DNM's
20:10:24 <endogenic> does its past anonymity set hold value if technology or conditions develop ?
20:10:37 <MikeyG> the thing XMR will have that others wont is longevity.  when you run a tight ship, this right for this long, you get trust.  trust > *.  it's why vitalik can turn eth's diverse community of suits and geeks on a dime.
20:10:53 <endogenic> Monero is not run MikeyG
20:10:57 <endogenic> and certainly not run like a tight ship
20:11:07 <endogenic> #monero-research-lab
20:11:49 <endogenic> also
20:11:58 <endogenic> imagine if Vitalik was like, no, we're obviously not going to fork for the DAO thing
20:12:02 <endogenic> i'd probably be an ETH boy
20:12:23 <endogenic> but then PoS would probably not be so appealing to them
20:12:35 <endogenic> so frankly ETH seems to have an honesty problem fmpov
20:12:52 <endogenic> Monero will just need to stay honest with itself
20:13:01 <endogenic> but some things are tough to see if they are outside our range of vision
20:13:03 <endogenic> naturally. :)
20:39:27 <doktoro> @dixie__flatline[ thanks for the vid
20:40:11 <dixie__flatline[> doktoro: you are welcome mate.
20:41:35 <doktoro> I wanna play that crypto tracing game lol
20:43:32 <dixie__flatline[> lol
20:43:45 <dixie__flatline[> it's so cute the way they try to educate the boomer law enforcement agents
20:44:50 <dixie__flatline[> also, the way they talk about monero and cryptocurrencies... it's like watching a 5 year old make his sentences about politics or science. It leaves you with a sense of cutesy pity.
20:45:05 <dixie__flatline[> "awww how cute..."