04:37:14 <jbg> during sync my daemon started logging a lot of this "E get_pruned_transaction_weight does not support older range proof types" (I am using --prune-blockchain and --sync-pruned-blocks). is it something to worry about?
04:38:15 <jbg> it seems to have stopped syncing after logging that line 30 or so times
04:40:34 <expensivebead> How's it going everyone?
05:21:34 <jbg> is it safe to relaunch the daemon without --sync-pruned-blocks if i have synced it to ~80% with that option?
05:21:55 <jbg> i am trying to find a way to make progress, since it is stuck at "E get_pruned_transaction_weight does not support older range proof types" repeating over and over in the logs and no sync progress
07:13:41 <selsta> jbg: which version are you using?
07:21:02 <expensivebead> Can anyone send me some btc?
07:21:53 <Adreik> Did a hard wallet rescan after discovering that "incoming_transfers uses" has been added in a relatively recent version (I assume, because for older outputs there was nothing).
07:21:53 <Adreik> Interestingly I have an output that's from November '18 that hasn't been a decoy ring member for anyone else's transaction yet, while every other output has been a decoy at least three times including an output I received only a few weeks or so ago (which has ~8 rings to it's name).
07:21:54 <Adreik> This seems anomalous; is there anyway other than hard blockchain re-scanning to check for transactions that reference that output?
07:21:54 <Adreik>  Is it possible that the output has simply been "unlucky"?
07:27:55 <jbg> selsta: latest (v0.16.0.1)
07:28:59 <selsta> jbg: can you report on github?
07:29:14 <jbg> ok
07:29:53 <jbg> selsta: any comment on whether it's OK to remove --sync-pruned-blocks to try to keep syncing?
07:30:03 <jbg> from my understanding it seems like it *should* be OK
07:30:19 <selsta> moneromooo is interested in users having issues with --sync-pruned-blocks so a report would be appreciated
07:30:24 <selsta> I think you can remove it
07:30:33 <jbg> ok, i'll try removing it, and will file an issue on github
07:31:42 <jbg> with it removed, it's continuing happily with the sync
07:31:49 <Adreik> How exactly does one use tx-extra?
07:31:49 <Adreik> Suppose you want to write "0000000000000000" in tx_extra; do you first type in "integrated_address 0000000000000000" in your wallet, then send something to that?
07:36:30 <selsta> Adreik: no
07:36:52 <selsta> you have to use a custom wallet
07:37:18 <selsta> encrypted payment IDs will show in tx_extra but the info will be encrypted
07:38:36 <Adreik> How come this is not in the default wallet?
07:49:28 <Mochi101> What do you want to do with it Adreik ?
07:49:41 <Adreik> Just play around with it on testnet lol
07:51:03 <Mochi101> Awhile back I looked into using it too.
07:51:16 <Mochi101> But... no.
07:54:08 <expensivebead> Can anyone spot me some BTC?
07:54:21 <Mochi101> .kickban expensivebead
07:57:04 <Mochi101> What're you begging for BTC for expensivebead ?
07:58:35 <Mochi101> This is an XMR channel, have some respect.
07:59:58 <expensivebead> I want some, I'll take XMR too. :D
08:01:12 <charolastra> will you suck dick for it?
08:01:53 <expensivebead> Will you give it?
08:02:32 <expensivebead> Yeah, now give it.
08:02:34 <charolastra> no(,) homo
08:03:12 <expensivebead> Same, give.
08:05:03 <jbg> expensivebead: yeah sure, i can send you some BTC. just send it to me first, and i'll send it right back to you
08:05:27 <expensivebead> Hahaha, *sigh.
08:05:37 <expensivebead> K I sent you 1 BTC.
08:05:43 <expensivebead> Send it back.
08:06:57 <jbg> first i need to do kyc, send me all your personal information
11:09:12 <visualshock> Is it possible to make the blockchain smaller? I have pruned it, and it is now around 30gb.
11:10:10 <selsta> no
11:10:26 <selsta> not at the moment
11:15:52 <jbg> 30gb is pretty reasonable innit
11:16:21 <jbg> i just deployed several major blockchains in the last few days and was pleasantly surprised at the pruned size of monero's
11:16:42 <Mochi101> yeap
11:16:50 <jbg> selsta: are you a monero dev, or just a particularly helpful irc lurker?
11:18:13 <visualshock> 30gb aint that bad, just need to upgrade my vps.
11:18:36 <jbg> if your host charges you more than $almost_nothing for 30gb, you need a new host :)
11:18:41 <selsta> jbg: I do contribute but not the main dev
11:19:02 <jbg> selsta: sure. i have a pet issue: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/5979
11:19:12 <jbg> i'm an experienced developer and would be happy to do the legwork to implement this
11:19:18 <jbg> but would need some light mentoring on the monero codebase
11:19:25 <jbg> would you be interested, or do you know someone who might be?
11:19:46 <expensivebead> GitHub is open source?
11:19:56 <jbg> i know of several monero nodes that currently can only make outbound connections because of this issue
11:20:03 <jbg> so implementing it would also be beneficial for the network
11:20:06 <selsta> jbg: I’m not really familiar with the network related code
11:20:10 <jbg> ok
11:20:20 <selsta> you can ask in #monero-dev maybe
11:20:27 <jbg> ah, thanks for that, i will
11:20:52 <expensivebead> Why do you guys operate it?
11:21:01 <selsta> I usually look at the existing code for e.g. p2p-external-port  and then try to understand it
11:21:01 <jbg> expensivebead: what are you talking about?
11:21:11 <selsta> but can’t estimate how difficult your idea is
11:21:19 <expensivebead> Meaning, help maintain the nodes or blocks?
11:21:25 <expensivebead> Right?
11:21:36 <jbg> selsta: yeah, i can do that. but half an hour with someone who wrote that code or knows it well, can replace half a day of spelunking through the codebase :)
11:21:41 <expensivebead> Sorry I'm a newbie.
11:21:55 <selsta> expensivebead: nodes improve the network health and also your privacy
11:22:04 <visualshock> What happened to pay for rpc? Still a thing?
11:22:08 <jbg> expensivebead: i work at a company that runs a service that accepts monero, so we're running a node anyway. helping the network doesn't really cost us more, and helps us since we accept monero
11:22:12 <expensivebead> What I'd RPC?
11:22:12 <Mochi101> --p2p-bind-ip
11:22:16 <selsta> visualshock: yes but not adopted yet
11:22:26 <jbg> Mochi101: that's the bind IP, but if the IP is not local, you can't use it
11:22:27 <expensivebead> What is rpc?
11:22:45 <expensivebead> What company is that!
11:22:47 <expensivebead> ?
11:22:56 <jbg> our deployment is inside kubernetes. outbound traffic will get SNAT'd to a different IP than other peers should connect to
11:23:13 <jbg> so something similar to the bitcoind externalip setting is needed
11:23:15 <Mochi101> ah yes, I see now
11:24:12 <jbg> expensivebead: Remote Procedure Call. it's a general term, not a company name
11:24:21 <jbg> (i honestly can't tell if you're trolling at this point!)
11:24:21 <expensivebead> Ah.
11:24:33 <expensivebead> I am not trolling!
11:24:36 <jbg> ok :)
11:25:17 <Mochi101> Maybe look into --public-node
11:25:29 <expensivebead> If I wanted to get a bit of cryptocurrency with nothing, what would I have to do?
11:25:39 <azy> work
11:25:41 <asymptotically> what would you do if you wanted to get some dollars or euros?
11:25:41 <Mochi101> It doesn't do what you want.
11:25:53 <asymptotically> jbg: do you dedupe your stored blockchains in any way, if e.g. you were running multiple monero nodes?
11:26:10 <Mochi101> But it's responsible for advertising the node on the P2P network jbg
11:26:17 <azy> expensivebead, what do you have to offer?
11:26:23 <Mochi101> spam
11:26:57 <expensivebead> I guess time and myself.
11:27:21 <Mochi101> maybe it's only for wallets though...mmm
11:27:35 <moneromooo> Should be fairly easy to add. If you're looking for a guide for doing it yourself:
11:27:52 <jbg> asymptotically: we're only running one monero node
11:27:54 <moneromooo> - Add the same option as --external-p2p-port (if the name's right).
11:28:20 <moneromooo> - Add a field for an IP in the handshake structure, in one of src/{p2p,protocol}/*defs.h
11:28:22 <jbg> for HA purposes, the backing storage is replicated, and kubernetes will relaunch it on another node in the cluster if the node it's running on fails
11:28:40 <moneromooo> - Write it there when creating your own handshake packet
11:29:04 <moneromooo> - when you receive a handshake, check whether an IP is set in that packet, and use that IP instead of the incoming IP if so
11:29:09 <expensivebead> azy: what is usually offered?
11:29:21 <moneromooo> - use that IP to add to the peer list instead of always the incoming IP
11:29:25 <moneromooo> That should be it.
11:29:37 <jbg> moneromooo: thanks! this is great. i'll save your comments and hopefully get time to work on this next week, and will send a PR
11:29:44 <moneromooo> Thanks
11:29:59 <azy> you could sell stuff on openbazaar
11:30:19 <jbg> expensivebead: crypto isn't really a magic alternative economy, the whole value-for-value thing works the same way
11:30:19 <expensivebead> That might work.
11:30:31 <jbg> figure out something you have that other people (ideally people who already have crypto) might want
11:31:04 <expensivebead> Okay.
11:32:12 <expensivebead> Who has something I can do for some Bitcoin or monero?
11:32:15 <asymptotically> jbg: cool :) ive been meaning to write a custom resource to deploy a wallet as an excuse to learn how to write a controller but i haven't gotten round to it yet
11:34:17 <expensivebead> Do you guys use miners?
11:34:36 <jbg> asymptotically: that's a nice idea; honestly i haven't gotten much into the custom resources, but if you need to deploy many similar things it seems like a great way to abstract it
11:34:49 <jbg> we're just using a statefulset
11:35:05 <jbg> expensivebead: even here in asia electricity is too expensive for me for that to be worth it
11:35:13 <jbg> if i knew someone who ran a power station, maybe
11:35:36 <expensivebead> Are you Asian?
11:36:03 <jbg> not as far as I know, why do you ask?
11:36:19 <expensivebead> Because you're in Asia.
11:36:31 <jbg> fair
11:36:34 <expensivebead> Which part?
11:36:47 <jbg> the sunny part with nice beaches
11:37:03 <expensivebead> Cool cool.
11:37:37 <jbg> what do you do to earn your local currency, expensivebead?
11:37:55 <expensivebead> I usually help out at a mechanics shop.
11:38:10 <expensivebead> These days it's through the stimulus check.
11:38:27 <expensivebead> This last one did not come in for me.
11:38:33 <expensivebead> So I'm struggling right now.
11:38:37 <jbg> so your regular requests for someone to give you bitcoin/monero are not really about bitcoin/monero am i right?
11:39:07 <jbg> i'm guessing you don't pay your bills in crypto, so you really need USD/whatever
11:39:17 <expensivebead> Yeah.
11:39:45 <jbg> so look, being totally brutally honest, crypto circles are probably some of the worst places to beg
11:40:15 <expensivebead> I was thinking about learning about it to enrich my life somehow.
11:40:26 <jbg> i don't judge you at all for doing so, i've been there, but people in #monero or #bitcoin are scam-hardened and are just not going to give you a cent
11:40:35 <jbg> basically anything else you could try is probably going to work better
11:40:49 <jbg> by all means learn about crypto to enrich your life somehow
11:40:59 <jbg> but if you need money to pay the rent, you're barking up the wrong tree
11:41:55 <expensivebead> Sigh can anyone spare anything before I leave?
11:42:03 <jbg> asking your worst enemy for a loan is going to work better than asking for a handout on IRC, trust me
11:42:55 <expensivebead> At least IRC is still cool af.
11:42:59 <jbg> yep!
13:29:37 <Desoetie> 2nd tranch also arrived
15:46:48 <CrowX-> Monero got to 17th place on coinmarketcap
15:46:53 <CrowX-> I remember when it was 9th
15:47:14 <CrowX-> How could have all those s**t coins got in front of it.
15:48:50 <moneromooo> Hype.
15:49:00 <moneromooo> Hype makes the corporate world tick.
17:42:30 <fibonacci> New coin,  I want 1% for naming it. HYPE
17:46:59 <fibonacci> Molleno with Doge supply?
17:47:09 <fibonacci> Jk ttyl
17:56:30 <fibonacci> Thought i was in pools sorry guys
19:19:27 <gingeropolous> second tranche of what?
20:05:30 <fluffypony> gingeropolous: drug money obvs
20:05:46 <fluffypony> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.