00:34:45 <jtgrassie> xmrpow: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.4980.pdf
12:01:45 <gingeropolous> i wonder if monero addresses could be stored in a memorizable swipe pattern
12:02:07 <gingeropolous> because you get a third vector of data storage - the direction of the swipe
12:03:01 <gingeropolous> well, probably better is if we can use the mneumonic system for the addresses as well
12:03:44 <gingeropolous> so its not 4qoN..., but englebert humperdink trumpet gaflomp
12:03:51 <gingeropolous> or however many bits it would need
12:04:09 <gingeropolous> though i guess 24 words is still a bitch to remember, recite, and receive
12:04:11 <gingeropolous> as human
12:04:44 <fluffypony> 24 words with our current encoding is 256 bits, so it would require 49 words (including a checksum)
12:05:12 <gingeropolous> oooof
12:05:21 <gingeropolous> ok, perhaps a 3d rotating cube puzzle.
12:05:23 <gingeropolous> :)
12:57:07 <moneromooo> A seashell.
16:29:41 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> Does that mean there is more entropy in addresses than there is in private keys/seeds?
17:26:03 <fluffypony> no
17:26:08 <fluffypony> addresses contain 2 public keys
17:26:20 <fluffypony> seeds are 1 private key, the 2nd private key is derived from the worst
17:43:47 <d4ndo[m]> If you can't remember the 24 words - you could tattoo a qr-code on your scalp, and then wait for the hair to grow back.
17:44:50 <d4ndo[m]> The science of hiding information »in plain sight«.
17:45:35 <moneromooo> Works for people who have eyes on stalks. Because what do you do once nukes fall and you can't find a couple mirrors ? :)
17:46:27 <moneromooo> I would want to make sure that I can still read the seed that could give me access to my monero if I had a computer and the internet was still around.
17:47:18 <d4ndo[m]> micro film?
17:50:22 <d4ndo[m]> You'd have to tattoo the Qr-code mirror-inverted. If someone shaves your hair in your sleep to steal your key. You yourself use a mirror to scan the QR code.
17:50:54 <d4ndo[m]> s/in your sleep/while you sleep/
18:06:55 <UkoeHB_> in moneromooo 's apocalypse there are computers, electricity, internet, and no mirrors
18:07:31 <fluffypony> the nuke shockwave destroyed the mirrors
18:07:40 <fluffypony> but he had his laptop and solar panel in a faraday bag
18:11:14 <moneromooo> Grammar is hard isn't it :)
18:11:19 <fluffypony> https://silent-pocket.com
18:11:22 <fluffypony> I love the stuff these guys do
18:11:47 <fluffypony> and it works really well - phone goes totally dead, no GSM, no wifi, no bluetooth, no nfc
18:13:03 <fluffypony> moneromooo: if you're from the southern part of the USA "grammar" means something different
18:13:14 <fluffypony> as in "grammar made her famous apple pie"
18:22:12 <azy> can this be used for shoplifting?
18:22:16 <azy> asking for a friend
20:08:27 <kinghat[m]> all that in a faraday bag but couldnt put a floaty on his keyring?
23:21:47 <fibonacci> Monero es muy bueno