02:03:29 <yeahitsme> whats bleeding edge in monero right now?
02:03:53 <moneromooo> Triptych.
02:04:49 <yeahitsme> see, you ask and you get
02:11:52 <yeahitsme> is it similar to key aggregation or "cross input signature aggregation" that's possible with schnoor ?
02:57:21 <gingeropolous> yeahitsme, uve seen this right? https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/018
02:58:46 <yeahitsme> yeah
03:05:37 <UkoeHB_> yeahitsme: Triptych is one signature per input, while Arcturus is a variant of the same technique that aggregates the signatures
03:07:46 <gingeropolous> i add an I in arcturius for some reason
04:18:03 <gingeropolous> well incremental progress is progress i guess
04:44:11 <gingeropolous> well perhaps the 128 thread server came down in price today
04:44:36 <gingeropolous> no it went up. those bastards
10:46:19 <guernsey> hello
10:46:34 <guernsey> on tx_utils there is tx.version = rct ? 2 : 1;
10:46:38 <d4ndo[m]> Salve
10:46:51 <guernsey> this code dont allow to start with tx v2
10:46:58 <guernsey> on any case
10:46:59 <moneromooo> At this point, it's spam now.
10:47:14 <guernsey> yes im waiting for someone else to answer
10:47:17 * moneromooo adds to the /ignore
10:47:30 <guernsey> this is not good
10:47:48 <guernsey> is not spam just im waiting for someone with good will to answer
10:48:01 <guernsey> nothing else
10:49:48 <guernsey> im not great debugger so the only choice is any monero folks with good will to help
10:50:28 <guernsey> ok moneromooo dont want is his right to deny help
11:11:15 <d4ndo[m]> tx.version = rct ? 2 : 1;  What is wrong with that macro?
11:11:46 <guernsey> this macro for some reason choose always version 1
11:12:10 <guernsey> even if i do tx.version = rct ? 2 : 2;
11:13:15 <guernsey> so even after changing basic.h tx version still tx version is 1
11:14:07 <guernsey> even if hf version is > 8 still tx is 1
11:15:34 <d4ndo[m]> So if rct is not 0 then version 1 is used.
11:16:17 <guernsey> yes but i dont know where else to specify rct version
11:16:23 <d4ndo[m]> Be aware that it is a macro so rct needs to be != 0 before you compile it.
11:16:30 <moneromooo> No. If rct is 0, v1 is used.
11:17:06 <guernsey> why this code decide that is 0
11:17:40 <guernsey> on 2 places u can specify tx version
11:17:49 <guernsey> config.h and basic.h
11:17:55 <guernsey> both = 2
11:18:51 <guernsey> or better where this code decide that rct are not used!
11:20:34 <d4ndo[m]> Yes - If rct is 0, v1 is used.
11:20:46 <d4ndo[m]> Sorry
11:22:24 <guernsey> but when i do rct ? 2 : 2;
11:22:32 <guernsey> nothing change
11:25:45 <guernsey> where rct is specified
11:25:47 <d4ndo[m]> Why would you write something like rct ? 2 : 2;  => tx.version = 2;
11:26:08 <guernsey> i did that too
11:26:12 <guernsey> didnt work
11:26:20 <guernsey>  tx.version = 2;
11:27:05 <guernsey> there is code before  if (hard_fork_version >= 4)      tx.version = 2;
11:27:08 <guernsey> still nothing!
11:28:12 <d4ndo[m]> I  have no idea where rct is specified. Maybe that would be the next step to search for.
11:30:33 <moneromooo> It comes from wallet2, true if the current chain version is >= whenever rct was first enabled.
11:30:49 <moneromooo> v4 IIRC. Maybe v3.
11:34:04 <guernsey> we are talking about consensus rules what wallet has to do with  consensus rules
11:34:07 <guernsey> strange
12:19:14 <d4ndo[m]> Wallet A (rct = 0 / disabled)  is not compatible with wallet B (rct = 1 / enabled). A mandatory update of the wallet is needed at that point. just a guess.
12:21:52 <guernsey> yes this is crucial
12:48:03 <guernsey> this code disallow chain to start with tx 2  " use_rct = fake_outs_count > 0 && use_fork_rules(4, 0); "
12:48:20 <yanmaani> what are you trying to do?
12:49:30 <guernsey> to start block with tx v2
12:53:01 <yanmaani> ...what is the purpose of that?
12:53:55 <guernsey> no purpose just to understand monero
12:54:42 <guernsey> is the greatest coin with big very big features that no other coin has
12:55:19 <guernsey> zcash,dash, all shit just much better market behind them
12:55:37 <guernsey> and empty inside
13:16:23 <guernsey> after changing all "const bool use_rct = true;"  still no rct
13:38:33 <anicow> moneromooo are you satoshi?
13:40:23 <d4ndo[m]> guernsey: bool construct_tx_with_tx_key(const account_keys& sender_account_keys, .. bool rct, ..  rct is an argument of this method.
13:40:46 <moneromooo> I am but a simple cow.
13:46:08 <anicow> hah
13:46:18 <anicow> just what satoshi would say
13:46:35 <anicow> monero is satoshi's vision
13:47:25 <anicow> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/715760381364142152/724258442600120380/1510725142342.png
13:47:49 <anicow> i mined 3 monero back then. i fouund a block once but it was on minergate but still
13:47:52 <anicow> i was hooked
13:52:32 <anicow> i m still hooked, the cypherpunks are still here
13:52:45 <anicow> hike, fluffy, you.
13:52:48 * anicow nods
13:52:58 <anicow> keep fighting the good fight fam
17:26:57 <gingeropolous> pyvirus strikes again on my git repo
17:27:13 <gingeropolous> i gotta stop setting my git config stuff as no⊙nc
17:31:46 <asymptotically> gingeropolous: what's pyvirus?
17:33:34 <Mochi101> gingeropolous, try me⊙tc
17:35:38 <gingeropolous> asymptotically, a user on github that registered with the email address no⊙nc
19:45:36 <kinghat[m]> hmm didnt realize this was a thing: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/monero
19:46:55 <kinghat[m]> or this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monero
19:49:21 <kinghat[m]> moneromooo: iirc your updater works but you need to initially get the binary yourself, but is it in any distribution repos at this point?
19:50:11 <moneromooo> I don't know.
19:51:19 <moneromooo> kinda doubt it since I did not go look at packagers to ask them.
19:51:54 <moneromooo> Any OS packager around ? :)
19:53:05 <kinghat[m]> so its actually an installer and updater?
19:53:19 <moneromooo> It does not install. It downloads and checks.
19:53:43 <kinghat[m]> user need to extract/install?
19:53:48 <moneromooo> Yes.
19:53:48 <kinghat[m]>  * user needs to extract/install?
19:53:57 <moneromooo> * Yes.
19:54:39 <kinghat[m]> is there some type of security issue by doing that for the user?
19:54:51 <moneromooo> Yes. It could be buggy :)
19:55:13 <kinghat[m]> 😸
19:55:15 <moneromooo> And I guess it doesn't know where the user wants it, etc, etc.
19:55:36 <moneromooo> And Windows is always so annoyingly different from everything else.
19:56:23 <moneromooo> And you might want to run it system wide with a nice custom user, and whatever other variations.
19:56:33 <kinghat[m]> ya it blows. i guess the gui makes a call so i guess that could be used 🤷‍♂️
20:01:14 <kinghat[m]> though it might be worth it now that windows got an actual package manager. so would really only be deb, arch, win.
21:00:35 <asymptotically> kinghat[m]: you might want to lower your expectations for the windows "actual package manager"
22:17:41 <nonie> https://github.com/nonie-sys/monero-timestamp
22:30:49 <kinghat[m]> <asymptotically "kinghat: you might want to lower"> why is that?
22:46:54 <yanmaani> Why is the Monero GUI so absurdly big?
22:54:58 <selsta> yanmaani: because it bundles the CLI too
22:55:08 <selsta> the actual GUI is not that big