01:45:56 <Steven_M> Hi all. Does anyone know whether xmr-to uses segwit or standard BTC addresses?
01:46:38 <niocbrrrrrr> they send to the btc address that you give them
01:52:05 <Steven_M> I meant support, sorry.
01:55:17 <Steven_M> niocbrrrrrr: I'd forgotten that I'd already used segwit with them. Sorry, I'm tired.
01:55:53 <niocbrrrrrr> yeah they send to any address that is valid on the btc network
01:56:40 <Steven_M> niocbrrrrrr: yeah, silly me *blush*
01:56:49 <niocbrrrrrr> np :)
01:57:04 <Steven_M> :-)
03:25:09 <locustlord> I have a question
03:25:19 <locustlord> why did we get XMR as the tag instead of MNR
03:26:56 <eamonnw> someting to with ISO i think
03:27:55 <eamonnw> locustlord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217#X_currencies
03:28:59 <locustlord> uugh
03:29:06 <locustlord> why do international orgs have to ruin things
03:30:49 <eamonnw> im not sure if the ISO imposed their standards on Monero
03:37:14 <niocbrrrrrr> monero chose to follow it
03:55:39 <locustlord> ok but MNR is obviously superior to XMR
04:43:52 <Adreik> Does the RPC wallet have an equivalent to the freeze/thaw commands? It does not appear to be in the documentation, https://web.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html
05:04:42 <Bill48105> funny i always figured mon or mnr were taken so xmr was chosen but guess more went into it than that if we trust the responses https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1162/what-does-the-x-mean-in-the-xmr-ticker-symbol
05:08:18 <Adreik> Nah, it's because it's a non-government money (see also gold, XAU in the futures markets)
05:41:55 <Bill48105> woo monero is live again on the bot [01:40:42] <Wallet> Bill48105: Monero | XMR | V: 0.16.0.0-release | Blocks: 2123090 | Diff 152.0B | Conns: 8
05:42:13 <Bill48105> was nightmare migrating but long overdue getting off trusty finally
05:48:34 <Steven_M> a tx was successfully transmitted, but now it's listing as failed, if I try again, how do make sure the person doesn't get paid twice.
05:53:42 <Adreik> did you try prove_tx?
05:54:09 <Adreik> what happens if you enter print_tx [hash] on the daemon?
06:05:47 <Steven_M> I'm using a remote node, not my own node at the moment, silly me (so I can't check the daemon). I'll try to prove the tx now.
06:07:20 <Adreik> try the block explorer, xmrchain.net
06:07:33 <Adreik> (or your preferred one)
06:16:33 <Steven_M> Adreik: two explorers couldn't find the TX ID, can I safely assume it's not going to go trough?
06:17:44 <Adreik> If you feel comfortable sharing the txid, I could check in the pool (I'm not sure if the searches for these explorers look at that or just what's been mined already)
06:19:06 <Adreik> but most likely, yeah it hasn't gone through
06:20:23 <Steven_M> txid: <ccf6e1d2717fdcccbde16ad61447906413ce4541397f393560aac24895124f59>
06:20:46 <Adreik> It sounds like what happened is you transmitted to the other node but they didn't relay
06:21:33 <Adreik> https://moneroworld.com/
06:22:22 <Adreik> >The attack is pretty straightforward: when the wallet requests data from the remote node to create a transaction, the remote node sends bogus data in response. This results in an error message displayed to the user. If the user clicks through the error and retries the transaction a second time, this immediately reveals the real input to the remote
06:22:23 <Adreik> node.
06:23:02 <Adreik> I can't see that tx hex
06:26:04 <Adreik> transaction was probably never relayed
06:29:29 <Steven_M> Adreik, thanks heaps. :)
06:31:00 <Adreik> Try entering "rescan_spent"?
06:32:25 <marmulak> syncing is kind of rough on my old drive hard drive. Seems the latency can cause the entire system to back up / freeze, so I figure if I rate limit the traffic it'll give the system a little room to breath. Things I can't figure out a sweet spot for the rate
06:33:18 <marmulak> I sort of just arbitrarily picked 256kb, seems alright so far
06:34:08 <marmulak> not sure if it respects the limit; sync_info says dl is closer to 512
09:19:30 <amuro> W DB error attempting to fetch block index from hashCannot allocate memory <--- how to fix?
09:20:46 <amuro> Does that mean I need to sync the blockchain all over again?
09:52:47 <marmulak> amuro: if you have received a DB error message you might be able to run --db-salvage
09:53:19 <marmulak> I was reading about it yesterday but am not sure if it helps
09:53:41 <marmulak> oh well your error doesn't look like it's db corruption
09:53:50 <marmulak> it looks like you ran out of memory
11:26:49 <amuro> marmulak: 4GB of ram isn't enough?
11:27:58 <amuro> So, what do I do now? Do I press Ctrl-C to terminate the monerod?
11:29:05 <amuro> I am trying to run the cli wallet
11:30:38 <selsta> 4GB should be enough.
12:00:06 <marmulak> yeah should be
12:00:48 <marmulak> amuro: is monerod showing the error message or monero-wallet-cli?
12:12:18 <guernsey> hello
12:13:10 <guernsey> can anyone of monero folks help on how to specify tx version on basic.h
12:14:03 <guernsey> when i insert version = 2;  serialazation wont happen so there is error
12:14:35 <guernsey> i test it with BEGIN_SERIALIZE()  VARINT_FIELD(version)  END_SERIALIZE()
12:15:33 <guernsey> but didnt work too
12:19:56 <moneromooo> Why not start off a monero fork that already did this ? There's got to be one.
12:20:37 <guernsey> no on start with tx version 2
12:20:59 <guernsey> i checked
12:21:07 <guernsey> on one
12:21:15 <guernsey> sorry
12:21:22 <guernsey> my english
12:23:01 <moneromooo> It's not enough to set tx.version = 2; You also hav to change the rest of the tx to abide by v2 rules. Like, use ringct.
12:23:42 <moneromooo> Try to change things at as high a level as you can. wallet2 before cryptonote_tx_utils, cryptonote_tx_utils before cryptonote_basic.
12:24:28 <moneromooo> Well, not wallet2 in your case since you're changing consensus, but you get the idea.
12:24:43 <guernsey> ok
12:26:20 <darsie> Why does monerod use 180% CPU when it is synchronized?
12:26:31 <fort3hlulz> Are you mining?
12:26:32 <moneromooo> Is it mining ?
12:26:36 <darsie> I don't think so.
12:26:46 <moneromooo> "mining_status" wikl tell you.
12:26:54 <darsie> what?
12:26:55 <fort3hlulz> Mine uses practically 0 CPU once completely synced, and I'm seeding and exposing restricted RPC.
12:27:03 <fort3hlulz> in monerod run "mining_status"
12:27:32 <darsie> fort3hlulz: Do I telnet to monerod?
12:27:47 <fort3hlulz> How are you running it? Separately, or part of the GUI?
12:27:50 <moneromooo> There's no telnet server, but you can run: monerod mining_status
12:27:52 <darsie> Via the guy.
12:27:59 <darsie> ok
12:29:13 <darsie> Not currently mining
12:29:32 <moneromooo> Is it on Linux ?
12:29:36 <darsie> yes
12:29:40 <moneromooo> sudo perf top -a
12:29:58 <moneromooo> Then wait a bit... then tell us what's the couple entries at the top.
12:30:41 <moneromooo> (wait a bit means wait, say, 10 seconds after the list first appears)
12:30:50 <darsie> E: linux-perf-4.19 is not installed.
12:32:38 <darsie> installing ...
12:35:24 <darsie> https://pastebin.com/BRSypm1D
12:36:31 <moneromooo> Looks like it's syncing.
12:36:37 <darsie> k
12:36:43 <moneromooo> What does "status" say ?
12:37:05 <darsie> "Daemon is synchonized (2123306)"
12:37:35 <moneromooo> Doesn't looks like what status says. Might be the GUI being wrong.
12:37:35 <darsie> 2020-06-18 12:37:26.913 I Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.1-release)
12:37:35 <darsie> 2020-06-18 12:37:26.914 I Generating SSL certificate
12:37:35 <darsie> Height: 2123306/2123306 (100.0%) on mainnet, bootstrapping from 116.203.182.15:18089, local height: 2103431 (99.1%), not mining, net hash 1.30 GH/s, v12, update needed, 0(out)+0(in) connections
12:37:54 <fort3hlulz> local height: 2103431 (99.1%) <- You're still syncing your local copy :)
12:38:05 <darsie> ok
12:38:08 <fort3hlulz> You're just fully bootstrapped since you used that mode
12:38:13 <darsie> hmm
12:38:19 <fort3hlulz> You're almost done though so CPU usage will drop very soon.
12:38:24 <darsie> thx
12:42:16 <darsie> s/guy/gui :)
12:42:46 <fort3hlulz> There is also a newer version of the GUI out, which you may want to install to be on the latest :)
12:42:55 <darsie> ok
12:43:02 <fort3hlulz> https://web.getmonero.org/downloads/
12:46:27 <fort3hlulz> Anyone know where I can find the Monero Discord? Or is this it?
12:46:27 <fort3hlulz> https://discord.gg/H28PFU
12:47:04 <fort3hlulz> kayront I think you're working on that/bridged that?
12:47:14 <fort3hlulz> If you're the wrong person sorry :P
12:48:50 <guernsey> i did on tx_utils "tx.version = rct ? 2 : 1;"   "tx.version = 2;"
12:48:55 <guernsey> didnt work ...
12:49:25 <guernsey> and there is if (hard_fork_version >= 4)      tx.version = 2;
13:02:14 <guernsey> monero folks please some help on tx version
13:02:29 <guernsey> changes on tx_utils are not enough
13:02:49 <guernsey> what else can be done so chain can start with tx version 2
13:09:23 <guernsey> moneromooo
13:10:15 <guernsey> if u know any fork that start with v2 tell me but really no one started
13:58:25 <guernsey> moneromooo maybe is other file that need to change
13:58:49 <guernsey> the file that output the error is format_utils and not tx_utils
13:59:48 <guernsey> tx_blob from parse_and_validate_tx_from_blob
14:07:02 <guernsey> why hard fork version change work from basic.h and tx no
14:09:22 <fort3hlulz> What are you trying to dig into this for?
14:10:03 <guernsey> new chain from v8 and not v1
14:10:28 <guernsey> but tx version dont change and output error
14:10:39 <fort3hlulz> I doubt you're going to get this detailed of help when starting up your own fork -- it's a good learning experience for sure, but no one is obligated to comment in real time to your questions
14:11:24 <fort3hlulz> Obvioulsy mooo is welcome to help however he likes, but he's a busy dev focused on improving Monero :)
14:11:36 <guernsey> yes i know
14:11:57 <moneromooo> Yes, it's always hovering almost to the /ignore threshold. It's definitely possible to do it though. It just takes time and work to go through it and I'm not doing it.
14:12:00 <fort3hlulz> ok, just making sure, as you kept pinging him
14:12:28 <moneromooo> You could also start at v1, and switch to v8 on block 1.
14:12:58 <guernsey> i know that and of course work
14:13:04 <guernsey> but i want the hard way
14:13:10 <fort3hlulz> lol
14:13:17 <moneromooo> You want the hard way for your education ?
14:13:23 <guernsey> yes
14:13:41 <moneromooo> Great outlook. Then you get to debug it yourself for it to work :)
14:14:19 <guernsey> not a great debbugger
14:14:36 <guernsey> and almost im near the solution
14:15:25 <guernsey> i think that change in basic.h is enough just how to serialize it
14:16:15 <guernsey> for example when u change major_version for hd version chain start
14:16:40 <guernsey> but when u change tx version no
14:18:52 <guernsey> BEGIN_SERIALIZE()  maybe work only in a structure
16:12:31 <YonatanTheGreat> Hey
16:52:22 <visualshock> Is it possible to prune the blockchain before it is fully downloaded?
16:52:31 <selsta> yes
16:52:32 <moneromooo> Yes.
16:52:42 <d4ndo[m]> yes
16:52:56 <selsta> moneromooo: btw did you send a merge list to luigi for release-v0.16 branch?
16:52:58 <moneromooo> If you prune a partially downloaded blockchain, you'll need temp disk space to hold both at one.
16:53:01 <moneromooo> Yes.
16:53:43 <visualshock> Okey, I am just wondering how to do it on my server which doesn't have a lot of storage.
16:54:36 <moneromooo> If you run monerod with --prune-blockchain, it'll do it in place, which doesn't need temp storage, but it also won't shrink the file.
16:54:46 <moneromooo> It'll just take much more time before it needs growing again.
16:55:05 <moneromooo> Boy, my grammar sucks sometimes.
16:56:17 <moneromooo> BTW, for whoever syncs from scratch now *and* wants a pruned db, try using --prune-blockchain --sync-pruned-blocks. The latter isn't the defualt and needs more testing :)
16:56:46 <moneromooo> It'll avoid downloading the data you'd prune anyway.
16:58:03 <visualshock> Maybe it is easier to download and prune it locally, and then transfer it to my server.
17:03:45 <kinghat[m]> @moo if i can find some space ill give her a go
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18:28:08 <moneromooo> Spam elsewhere please.
19:18:46 <hyc> isn't that one of needmooney's bridges? just tell him to turn it off
19:18:58 <selsta> not needmoney AFAIK
19:21:01 <moneromooo> Might be kayla's
19:23:33 <midipoet> who is kayla?
19:24:03 <moneromooo> The person I think runs that bot.
19:24:21 <moneromooo> I might have the same a bit wrong.
22:40:02 <Bill48105> yeah that's the issue with bridges..  spam & floods cross too. i try to make my bridges "smart" by limiting what is relayed, rates, etc but it's impossible to stop everything bad
22:41:08 <Bill48105> one bridge i run doesn't relay unless the user has an account on the bot for example which helps cut spam a ton