04:00:38 <gingeropolous> so how come we can't get monerod on the android store?
04:01:50 <gingeropolous> i guess the GUI would be better... but, alternatively, you could just have the daemon
04:02:02 <gingeropolous> and then use whatever flavor of 3rd party mobile app that you like
04:04:00 <gingeropolous> id guess you'd want some toggles for sync-over-wifi only etc
05:26:03 <guernsey> hello
05:26:37 <guernsey> does anyone knows where to specify tx version for new chain
05:27:47 <guernsey> hard_fork version can be specified on basic.h as major_version = 8; but tx version didnt work
05:28:38 <guernsey> any monero folk willing to help?
05:29:46 <Adreik> Does anyone know how Trezor private view and spend key derivations from seed work?
05:34:22 <Adreik> From my understanding of how to use this tool (https://iancoleman.io/bip39/), with the default derivation path of m/44'/128'/0' and a Trezor seed phrase of abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon about, the first private key generated is 5c6b0831bec601e6979086b51b8e6dfea8cab35dada5e6e13d18f934694ae0ad
05:34:22 <Adreik> - is this the Monero private spend Key of a monero wallet created from this Trezor seed? is the private view key then generated using a keccak hash as usual, meaning an address of 4AAsA7DmmTKRCC1H1h3iY3Y3WVHTpgcdC88TGwxydiXXYJmZyLvy2e8E92iBgCF6ESAA9gPetWUzfFxncYteuTyEGY4bu6G?
05:37:29 <Adreik> If not, how would one go about backing up the wallet generated from a Trezor as a regular paper wallet (that does NOT require another Trezor if the initial one is lost/broken)?
05:47:27 <Adreik> Is this the kind of question that should go in #monero-dev?
09:03:39 <d4ndo[m]> A combination of this https://www.pitrezor.com/2018/02/pitrezor-homemade-trezor-bitcoin-wallet.html and coldcard wallet would be great. Using standard components raspi zero with some small extension board holding the crypto chip + sdcard reader.
09:13:26 <d4ndo[m]> Ok- Ther Raspberry pi has a CSI camera connector. Maybe use an optical interface to sign tx. QR-codes
09:17:15 <d4ndo[m]> A pair of dice for the random number generator.
09:17:35 <d4ndo[m]> Then standard compoents should be ok
09:39:58 <endor00[m]> How fast is monerod supposed to sync? I'm 11k blocks behind and it's estimating 1 hour (on a laptop with a decent ssd and a 4c/8t cpu)
09:40:24 <endor00[m]> That's barely more than 3 blocks/second of sync speed
09:40:53 <endor00[m]> (with nothing significant going on in the background)
09:53:34 <endor00[m]>  * That's barely more than 3 blocks/second of sync speed - that seems awfully slow...
09:55:56 <selsta> sounds about right for full block verification, 1 hour for 15 days of blocks
13:20:33 <gingeropolous> goddamn i don't want to move to office 365
13:21:01 <gingeropolous> "subscription based so eventually it will stop working!"
14:33:20 <amuro> How do I re-open my cli wallet?
14:33:58 <amuro> I have setup a cli wallet 2 years ago. Now I have a new computer, how do I retrieve my wallet?
14:34:17 <amuro> Do I need to have the wallet file from 2 years ago?
14:34:32 <fort3hlulz> Do you still have the seed?
14:34:40 <amuro> what seed?
14:34:45 <fort3hlulz> The seed for the wallet?
14:34:59 <amuro> What extension?
14:35:07 <fort3hlulz> I'm not sure what you mean
14:35:14 <amuro> file extension
14:35:21 <fort3hlulz> When you create a wallet, you're given a seed to backup that allows you to restore your wallet.
14:35:36 <fort3hlulz> its not stored in plaintext as a file, for obvious reasons
14:36:49 <amuro> you mean the 25 key words?
14:36:53 <moneromooo> You need either (1) the seed, or (2) the secret keys, or (3) the keys file and the password.
14:36:55 <fort3hlulz> yes, thats the seed :)
14:37:19 <amuro> I do have the 25 key words
14:37:35 <fort3hlulz> Then you can just restore with ./monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-seed
14:37:36 <moneromooo> Then monero-wallet-cli --restore-deterministic-wallet, and follow instructions.
14:37:39 <amuro> I have them saved in a text file
14:37:48 <amuro> ok
14:37:49 <fort3hlulz> Yeah listen to moneromooo I messed up the command :P
14:37:58 <fort3hlulz> Haven't used CLI in ages
14:38:42 <moneromooo> I kinda assumed I had it wrong when you posted a variant :P
14:38:53 <moneromooo> Looks like it's wallet, I just checked.
14:41:08 <fort3hlulz> I'm generally gonna trust your responses over my own :D
14:41:10 <amuro> Do I download from https://downloads.getmonero.org/linux64 ?
14:41:19 <fort3hlulz> yup!
14:41:23 <fort3hlulz> Assuming thats your OS
14:45:52 <amuro> I think my OS is 32 bit, where do I get the 32bit?
14:49:54 <amuro> nevemind I think I got it
14:49:55 <moneromooo> If you run "uname -a", do you see "x86_64", or "i686" or "i386" in the output ?
14:50:02 <amuro> i686
14:50:15 <moneromooo> 32 bit yes, bad luck.
14:50:23 <amuro> https://downloads.getmonero.org/cli/linux32 <--- i think
14:52:16 <amuro> The blockchain is on a rotating drive: this will be very slow, use an SSD if possible <--- for real?
14:52:30 <amuro> how long would it take?
14:55:26 <hyc> days, probably
14:55:55 <amuro> It's 2% now
14:56:23 <amuro> So while the daemon is syncing, would it create a large file on the hard disk?
14:59:57 <hyc> yes
15:01:25 <amuro> where is the file located?
15:03:45 <dsc_> ~/.bitmonero
15:05:05 <amuro> how much monero do u guy have?
15:07:32 <hyc> all of them
15:17:50 <amuro> What are some of the popular online XMR mining site?
15:18:33 <amuro> I have used an cli-miner to mine XMR but I forgot the website, I think I have some XMR in it but I forgot the site.
15:18:51 <amuro> Do you guys know some websites or the pool?
15:25:39 <asymptotically> amuro: https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
15:25:49 <asymptotically> just avoid minergate and you'll be fine :)
15:33:25 <amuro> I think I have mined in minexmr.com before
15:33:54 <amuro> I did some on minegate before haha
15:33:55 <asymptotically> minexmr and supportxmr are very big, it helps the decentralisation of the network if you pick somewhere smaller
15:34:43 <amuro> Do I have to wait until the syncing is done in order to connect to my wallet?
15:34:44 <asymptotically> sorry for your loss lol
15:35:16 <asymptotically> i'm not sure what happens if you connect before it's ready, but you should be able to copy and paste your address into the miner before it's synced
16:01:25 <amuro> I am wondering how good or how bad it is to mine monero with a raspberry pi 2?
16:01:31 <selsta> bad
16:03:18 <amuro> haha
17:30:50 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: If you mind on a raspberry pie 2 you’ll probably get about 0.05$ worth of Monero everyday
17:31:02 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: And pay about 1$ in electricity every day
17:44:26 <finnwww[m]> How do I buy music with Monero?
17:49:16 <Mochi101> Contraband music?
17:50:54 <moneromooo> https://www.projectcoralreef.com/ has links to sites where you can buy some music with monero.
18:09:02 <asymptotically> lana del rey no longer accepts monero, very upsetting
18:35:26 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: How do I join this IRC channel? I’m currently using a bridge through discord.
18:36:07 <moneromooo> Get an IRC client. Connect to freenode (irc.freenode.net, default port). Join #monero (ie, /join #monero for irssi).
18:36:38 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: Do you know any good irc client for iOS?
18:40:09 <yanmaani> no, they're all terrible
18:41:37 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Yonatan#6948>: That’s a bummer
18:42:41 <YonatanB___64> Hey
18:43:18 <YonatanB___64> I just used the freenode website
18:52:17 <selsta> irccloud is great on iOS
18:56:22 <Yonatanb___> What exchange do you guys use to convert fiat or crypto to XMR?
19:02:13 <selsta> Kraken
19:04:07 <Yonatanb___> Doesn’t kraken require KYC?
19:05:01 <yanmaani> all banked exchanges need kyc
19:08:27 <Yonatanb___> And for Crypto for example BTC to XMR?
19:54:03 <yanmaani> no need
22:54:00 <fort3hlulz> What is Radicle?
22:55:11 <d4ndo[m]> A decentralized github.
23:34:19 <tanzor[m]> <Yonatanb___ "Doesn’t kraken require KYC?"> Without KYC, try Bisq.network