00:17:12 hi 00:17:48 why there is no gui irc 00:19:04 there is 00:19:07 hexchat 00:19:09 etc 00:19:52 i mean monero-gui irc 00:20:23 IRC in the monero wallet?? 00:20:43 irc for monero wallet 00:24:33 you mean an irc channel? 00:26:44 takel: there is 00:26:49 #monero-gui ? 00:27:33 ah for some reasons i didnt c 00:35:36 selsta version 15.04 dont need gcrypt so compile is ok but what to do for the future 00:35:56 i tried many times but no success 00:36:19 maybe you can ask the gcrypt devs how to compile it for android? 00:36:34 even after compiling with ndk last version r21 00:36:46 u mean to mail them 00:36:59 maybe they have irc channel 00:37:15 same devs as gpg 00:37:26 hmm good 00:41:46 the other idea I have is making it optional on android 00:42:10 because libgrypt is only used for updating the gui which is not essential 00:44:19 right so to add an if 00:44:27 but where 00:44:32 on main.cpp 00:49:43 i have my monerod listening only on tor and have set an anonymous-inbound address 00:50:07 i know the tor bit works because i can connect to the wallet rpx over tor 00:50:33 however, when i do sync_info, i only see clearn addresses 00:51:13 anyone have a tor peer I can connect to using add-peer ? 01:11:42 selsta where to add that if 01:12:55 takel: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/2824 01:13:06 this is the code that added libgcrypt 01:15:32 oh 18 files 01:16:27 look at main.cpp specifically 01:17:58 on main.cpp there is no much but i must remove from cmake fiels too 01:18:09 files too 01:18:12 no cmake is not used 01:18:17 in build process 01:18:36 why is added for future use? 01:20:14 if i remove anything from main.cpp is enough? 01:24:31 i try 01:25:12 i remove from pro file too 01:25:33 might be enough. might not 01:29:08 I can try to make a patch in the next days 01:35:01 good 03:26:02 Do I need to advertise my public IP to the p2p network when starting monerod or just port forward 18080 and it will be discovered? 03:26:12 monerod does it for you 03:27:08 how does monerod know my public IP when it is behind nat? 03:27:39 upnp 03:27:47 Oh wait yes, you should probably open 18080 03:28:21 I have upnp disabled, too much a security risk. I would rather manually control port forwarding on firewall 03:29:15 Yeah, just open that one and it should be fine 03:38:15 I seem to be getting a lot of stacktrace events in my monerod.log, but they are only [info], is the freebsd monero-cli package just configured by default to verbosely log? Should I be looking into these info events? 03:41:51 this is all gibberish to me =) 2020-05-24 02:51:41.446 [P2P0] INFO stacktrace src/common/stack_trace.cpp:163 f 0x15499ef epee::net_utils::boosted_tcp_server >>::worker_thread(void) + 0x1df 04:41:47 !seen doctorx 05:45:46 hi, I've found in log those line: ---block added as alternative on hight... reorganize success! What does it mean? 05:46:50 ok, it doesn't matter :) 06:13:39 That's the "consensus algorithm" at work: Two blocks where found nearly at the same time, and both propagated to parts of the network until that became aware of the conflict. The network then settled on the "better" of the two blocks, and your daemon tells you now the result. 08:22:39 wooo hoo new monero update 08:22:50 much excite 09:19:50 hm. TOR browser has stopped warning about maximizing windows. Did they just remove the nag or is it less of an issue for fingerprinting than it used to be? 09:19:50 fuck windows, use linux! 09:22:48 Inge-: Probably both. 09:24:16 Inge-: It's not an issue anymore, they fixed it in one of the last releases 09:26:26 is it possible to mine monero on a dedicated server 09:26:29 profitability 09:26:33 ? 09:35:25 You could use it to mine monero. Lets say you use it for some web shop. Why not!? 09:35:45 You paid for it. 09:37:44 Inge-: have a look at a webpage while you resize it. it moves in big steps now 09:38:07 But i would call the mining process with "nice -n 19 ./xmrrig " so the web shop is not interupted. 09:39:41 Don't rely on the xmrrig settings. let the OS do the process sceduleing. »nice» 09:43:32 Renting the dedicated server for pure mining wont be profitable. 09:53:00 fuck off 09:53:20 could mining monero on a dedicated server cover all the renting cost and more? 09:53:46 no 09:54:15 ok 09:54:49 you can work it out yourself with a mining calculator but every host is going to be deep into loss territory 09:57:20 It's like renting an apartment and then subletting it. The tenant won't pay you any more rent either. 10:01:51 Jackman2: it's whether or not you'll lose more or less money 10:02:19 ok 10:02:35 I'm not interested then 10:03:05 thank you, please come again. 10:16:55 I could imagine renting computing power depending on the lottery tickets sold, and then drawing a winner after a month. A kind of lottery mining. That would be profitable for the operator. 10:18:50 But that would not be morally correct. 10:22:24 binaryFate: i think that something has gone wrong with your stagenet public node, it takes a very long time to reply to any request 10:30:51 what are main competitors of monero? 10:30:58 if there is any serious ones 10:52:00 seems like many are still using the old Bitcoin 11:49:47 asymptotically: it's possible there's too much usage, stagenet node is not a particularly large instance 11:49:52 can check tomorrow 11:51:27 A short list would be bitcoin, grin, zcash I guess. Possibly some others that don't come to mind immediately 11:52:17 thanks. it seems to have cleared up now anyway. get_info was taking almost 10 seconds i think, but the other nodes were fine 11:52:19 I dislike btc 11:52:27 I'll look into grin and zcash 11:52:32 But any old shite can be a competitor if you consider what people flock to because shiny smoke and mirrors. 11:53:23 zcash is weird. Very good theoretical privacy, but they seem to throttle it on purpose. 11:53:53 The more this goes on, the more I think there's some secret thing going on somewhere. 11:55:29 Oh, decred is a good coin too. 11:55:56 Was anyway. No idea what they're up to now. 11:56:52 zcash still has this »trusted setup problem« don't they? 11:57:47 Yes. Though AFAIK they made another (or will make another ?) with more people, so one side of the minefield is taped over. 12:00:30 Jackman2: Why do you dislike btc? 12:00:49 fees, slow, no privacy 12:04:51 at least people accept btc, and kind of accept monero 12:06:17 Does Monero have lower fee than Bitcoin!? It has a scaleable blocksize. 12:08:10 iif you live in germany, austria or switzerland check out shopinbit.de. They do accept Monero. 12:09:25 A Monero fee would be about...0.00014 monero for a typical tx. Though that seems low, I might have the calc wrong. 12:09:49 Or a fifth of that if using the "no hurry, take your time" setting. 12:10:26 yeah one dollar cent fee 12:10:31 my last monero tx was 3cent 12:10:34 yesterday 12:11:03 and my bitcoin tx fee was 4$ 12:11:04 Could Monero keep this fee if it had the same marketcap as Bitcoin today? 12:11:54 Hard to tell, given the fee formula based on block size. 12:12:10 I think it's too low to discourage spamming, but hey. 12:12:20 d4ndo[m] https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-xmr.html#log&2y 12:14:11 linear looks more graspable https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-xmr.html#2y 12:14:54 interesting 12:15:07 https://streamable.com/23mfda 12:58:01 moneromooo: My guess is that the KYC whores don't want too good privacy. See: why monero is traded/listed on comparatively few exchanges 13:00:52 bisq is the solution 13:01:09 dont care about kyc and other stuff 13:01:29 monero only with bisq 13:07:38 If they crank up the KYC to eleven with FIFO, people will start caring real fast 13:14:15 people care less about privacy than you think 13:16:46 % of people caring about privacy has changed a lot 13:19:52 People care about 'number go up', not privacy 13:20:01 otherwise we'd see monero used a lot more 13:20:09 (although it does have some flaws, like annoying cold storage) 13:21:03 number go up is all that matters 13:21:49 privacy is all that matters 14:04:49 printer go brrr still mattering? 14:13:35 hi 14:13:47 how do you see the future of monero? 14:18:46 So bright we will need to wear sunshades perhaps? 14:24:03 why 14:25:57 Because the brightness might hurt your eyes I guess. 14:26:21 why bright 14:26:50 Because if it wasn't, rbrunner would not be able to see it. Clever innit. 14:28:16 I see 14:28:37 I'd love to be able to do atomic swaps with monero 14:29:20 Someone's been looking at it on and off, more off than on. But came back recently. 14:29:43 AIUI, the main issue is the different curves between monero and (presumably) bitcoin, causing trouble. 14:30:04 Not sure why not do it monero to aeon first, but hey. 14:30:52 I think people will start to care about privacy when governments start to crack down on people using alternative currencies then thier approved currencies 14:31:27 haven't already done so? 14:31:32 haven't they 14:31:57 kyc and account freeze 14:32:40 not seriously. Think back to the gold laws where people had to hand over thier gold to the government. History repeats 14:32:57 duso: Monero's gonna be the first one they come for 14:33:01 meaning, number go down 14:33:45 Still bound to the appearance of abiding by laws. How are they going to prove you have / used monero? 14:34:16 They're just going to regulate the exchanges 14:35:05 globally? 14:36:15 It's enough to get the banks to regulate them 14:36:16 in the US 14:38:30 How are they going to regulate using visa / mastercard to buy monero from a exchange say, in the Seychelles 14:39:03 or heck, from an ebay / alibaba shopfront? 14:39:59 anywho, after midnight on a school night. night all 14:40:14 Visa and MasterCard are American companies 14:40:25 there is no way you can run a bank without the blessing of the US federal government 14:40:49 Yeah, try using of those credit cards as an Iranian, or as a North Korean. See how they can stop you, or not. 14:42:44 And if you are through with that try PayPal :) 14:48:26 Just try it while being a hated person 14:48:33 even without doing anything illegal 14:48:36 e.g. kiwifarms 14:51:05 moneromooo: Atomic swap between Monero testnet and Aeon mainnet seems like a fair trade :D 14:58:10 Looking at one of their block explorers I must say their little coin could need a little more love ... 15:10:45 I think another element that scares a lot of potential users (including some exchanges) is the very fact that you can't see transaction amounts. Not from a privacy perspective, but from an "auditability" perspective 15:11:18 And when I say "auditability", I mean the fact that you can just look at transaction amounts, add them up, and see that inputs = outputs 15:12:05 That's easy to understand, easy to validate, and thus puts their minds at rest 15:12:41 You can do that with your own transactions no? 15:12:58 It's annoying but not a deal breaker 15:13:30 But you can't do that with others. How do you nothing shady is going on? How do you know there's no mistake? That's scary 15:13:44 if others lose their money that's their problem lol 15:14:21 But how do you know that Monero itself is bugged and there's no double spending going on? 15:14:47 How do you know there's no mistake in our math/code that allows for something like that? 15:15:06 There was indeed one such mistake a while ago 15:15:20 Monero's answer to that question (if you actually bother searching for an accurate source) is: "lots of math, and lots of code that implements that math (hopefully correctly)" 15:16:39 And that scares people, especially non-technical ones, because the best they can do is trust the judgement of others and that those others are not mistaken/lying 15:16:57 * But how do you know that Monero itself isn't bugged and there's no double spending going on? 15:19:36 Even for an exchange it's more risky: they have no way to find out if their wallets have been compromised without syncing the chain and keeping the wallet open 15:19:46 * Even for an exchange it's more risky/scary: they have no way to find out if their wallets have been compromised without syncing the chain and keeping the wallet open 15:21:32 At least with Bitcoin and co. it's easy: just pop your address on your explorer of choice, set some alert when an unexpected transaction is seen from one of your wallets, and hope that gives you enough time to open the rest and move the money somewhere safe. 15:23:41 Even if you proved that there's no flaw both in your math and in the implementation, people would still trust it less because it's one less thing that they have immediate control over 15:23:59 Thoughts? 15:25:39 like everything in life 15:25:48 risk/reward 15:28:17 "There was indeed one such mistake a while ago" <= also in btc 15:30:19 https://web.getmonero.org/2020/01/17/auditability.html 15:32:49 A faulty implementation could lead to unintended and (temporarily) unnoticed inflation in Bitcoin and other chains too 15:32:52 ^ fwiw 15:37:23 Oh, I'm well aware of that 15:38:17 But I'm not the type of user we're talking about 15:43:10 Is it possible to make serious 'watch only' wallets in Monero? 15:44:04 My point is that one of the most valuable and fundamental mechanisms that defines Monero is also one of the "scariest" for the early adopters who barely understand what crypto is. 15:44:04 Bitcoin is already uncharted territory, and then Monero shows up and you tell them they need to understand cryptography just to draw a map and orient themselves 15:45:00 That's a great recipe for a quick "Nope, too complicated, I'm outta here" response 15:45:11 Of course not. People don't need to understand fluid dynamics to fly passenger on a plane. 15:45:20 ^ 15:45:25 Nobody "understands" crypto 15:45:46 they just string together words (scalability, decentralization, blockchain) in hope that the (equally stupid) readers will pump their bags 15:45:50 Sure, but human psychology is rarely that coherent 15:46:01 that the degenerate gamblers (fuck them) get dissuades is a good thing 15:46:09 That's a separate point, which I agree with. Don't muddle them. 15:46:39 People today fly because we see lots of other people do it every day, and most of the time it goes well and it's uneventful (if a bit wobbly) 15:47:09 But in the early days of flight, only the madmen who were smart (or brave/crazy enough) would hop on a plane 15:47:30 * But in the early days of flight, only the madmen who were smart (or brave/crazy) enough would hop on a plane 15:48:24 I see people use monero everyday without issue and it's also safer than flying 15:48:24 And it took a while before it became the mainstream form of transportation that it is today 15:49:00 beware metaphors 15:49:19 _You_ see people use it every day. How many others do the same? 15:49:38 Back then, people did not have to understand fluid dynamics to do it either. The fear of the new was a different issue than understanding why a particular plane design was safe or not. 15:50:19 Someone who knew how to tell could certainly be more scared about a given plane, for sure. But nobody required people to know fluid dynamics to fly. 15:50:37 That was your point. I disagreed with it. No amount of arguing a different point will change that. 15:50:42 Why would audit crypto nonsense be interesting in any way shape or form to a casual user? 15:50:55 They just paste in the address and go. I don't pretend to understand how it works. 15:51:24 It's like the STONKS meme. "Cryptongrapy" 15:51:48 I just paste in the address and hope it's sorted. I have only the vaguest of understandings of what the hell a zkSNARK is. 15:54:56 You have no way to tell whether bitcoin has no bug with parsing amounts from the chain either. Almost everyone relies on the psychological "I see numbers, I add them, it checks out" thing, but there's a lot of code which you didn't check for bugs either. Hence agreeing with the psychology point but definitely not the needing to understand what it's doing point. 15:55:24 And if someone's going to say "more people have reviewed it", it's a different point again (and one which I agree with). 15:56:22 I'm not saying that everyone who uses monero needs to fully understand monero before doing so 15:57:24 Great. Looks like we agree then ^_^ 15:57:49 Only that figuring out a way to ease people's minds over confidential transaction would help the less technically inclined to take the first step 16:00:00 (And I was asking for thoughts on whether this would be a path worth looking into, or if it's just me who thinks that and confidential transactions don't actually scare off some potential adopters as much as I think) 16:01:24 Anyone's always welcome to make things easier to understand (assuming that doesn't make something else worse). 16:02:04 (assuming that's what you mean by "a path worth looking into") 16:02:35 it happens all automatic in the background, monero is protecting you by default. that's easy, no? 18:50:55 https://www.bit-cointalk.com/2020/05/21/crypto-gray-markets-could-be-unintended-consequence-of-fatf-travel-rule/ 18:52:58 reads like typical blog spam 18:54:26 > At the exchange level, Spiro pointed to the way regulations are impacting privacy coins (crypto tokens designed to obfuscate any details around transactions), which are being delisted from exchanges every day, he said. 18:54:43 AFAIK not a single exchange delisted Monero because of FATF travel rule 18:55:46 but what do you expect from a site called bit-cointalk lol 18:56:13 https://www.coindesk.com/fatf-travel-rule-crypto-gray-markets 18:56:21 ^- same news 18:56:39 still, I would be curious what exchanges they are talking about 18:57:36 The thing is. More and more people are getting aware of the fungibility problem. 19:08:28 Every day... Wow. I had no idea. 19:08:58 Ask a Bitcoin maximalist what he will do if Bitcoin is lost to the banksters. 19:09:29 We're fucked anyway. Snowden happened, and that only end up with governments basically saying "oh, let's make it official then" and no fucks were given by the people at large. 19:10:33 So the best we can do is stay away from the mass fucking for a while. 19:10:36 So sad. Germany even used the US as a blue print to change rules for spying. 19:11:13 Knowing that the fuckers are eyeing us and we'll get it good and hard when they catch us. Legally, somehow. 19:11:19 Germany granted more power to the BND(german NSA) 19:11:57 That Germany goes the spy way is pretty bad, given their first hand experience. 19:12:12 Maybe an asteroid will save us or something. 19:12:23 Mammals die off, penguins take over. 19:12:30 yes. 19:12:35 lol 19:12:36 :) 19:12:44 you think penguins wouldnt start spying on each other? 19:12:55 I dunno. I wouldn't be here to judge. 19:13:03 They'd have a shot at it anyway. 19:14:53 Actually, it'd be better if it's sloths that take over, they couldn't be arsed spying. 19:16:43 selsta: I recall one or two 19:16:46 (obscure ones) 19:16:48 The monero community is like the rebellion in star wars living in a galaxy controled by the imperium. 19:17:04 the thing is, when they start doing FIFO (only a matter of time) 19:17:09 things are going to be fucked 19:17:27 like, completely. You are not going to be able to buy or sell Monero 19:17:28 moneromoo is a jedi knight using the force. 19:18:11 What is FIFO, except first in first out ? 19:18:22 my thoughts. 19:18:27 First in first out. 19:18:28 first in first out. 19:18:30 If you have 3 inputs 19:18:42 A = XBT 2, B = XBT 3, C = XBT 5 19:19:09 and 3 outputs: X = XBT 1, Y = XBT 2, Z = XBT 7 19:19:16 and B is "tainted" 19:19:26 Oh, you mean how to choose where the taint goes ? 19:19:39 then that will give Y XBT 1 of taint and Z XBT 2 of taint 19:19:49 yes 19:19:56 Thanks. 19:20:16 Unless Bitcoin does the deterministic transaction ordering hardfork, our days are numbered 19:20:35 I heard of that. It's just one (common) way of arbitrarily assigning taint. Why do you think it'll screw monero 19:20:38 ? 19:20:59 When that's done, Bitcoin will lose all fungibility 19:21:10 Meaning that an exchange could trivially be compelled to not exchange Bitcoin for Monero 19:21:21 Meaning that you could only exchange Monero for unusable (tainted) coins 19:21:46 Why does "Bitcoin will lose all fungibility" imply "an exchange could trivially be compelled to not exchange Bitcoin for Monero" ? 19:22:06 Oh, because it'd lose the taint, so governments would not want that ? 19:22:08 why does anyone need to exchange Bitcoin for Monero in the first place? 19:22:18 To gain fungibility :D 19:22:39 no, I mean... you can just buy Monero, you don't have to use Bitcoin to get it 19:22:47 moneromooo: Because the bad exchanges would cause your coins to get tainted. I elided an intermediate step: You get differently priced clean and dirty coins 19:23:13 Isn’t that already the case? 19:23:14 hyc: Well, direct XMR <-> Fiat is trivial to regulate 19:23:33 selsta: Sort of, but you can avail yourself of various tricks like coinjoin etc to fix it 19:23:36 Why could there not be a "exchanges exchange only clean bitcoin <-> monero" state ? 19:24:05 Because said exchanges would have to comply with regulations regarding this 19:24:08 Ah, because some exchanges will always exchange for tainted. Fair. 19:24:15 Which would for example prohibit the exchanging of Monero 19:24:23 But it's kinda... wrong. 19:24:24 Meaning, you can use fiat to buy clean coins 19:24:29 and sell clean coins for fiat 19:24:33 and buy dirty coins for monero 19:24:40 and sell dirty coins for monero 19:24:47 I mean, ethically. It's like a government really acknoewedging they're ethicallu challenged. 19:24:51 but there's no way to go from dirty to clean coins 19:25:04 Which, OK, I guess is not far fetched. Fair. 19:25:11 After all the AML rape they put upon us, do you think they'd flinch to regualte an obscure cryptocurrency? lol 19:25:46 Yeah, there's no way this can get fixed without violence really. As history proves. Hope it'll be after I'm dead. 19:26:00 with the way things are going, you never know 19:26:19 it would be better for the world, to happen sooner than later 19:26:19 You can change fiat in Monero by using energy. 19:26:42 d4ndo[m]: Good point, but how to change Monero for fiat? 19:27:14 You spend it on goods. 19:27:31 Sometimes I kinda play around with the idea of standing in an election with "I will restore privacy to the people", but it's a might pain in the butt. And I probably would get arrested for free thinking. And even if I win, I might become corrupt. Life sucks. 19:28:00 d4ndo[m]: That only works if there's a reliable fiat exchange somewhere down the line 19:28:15 corruption comes from exposure to power. if you serve 1 or 2 terms and then walk away you'd probably be fine 19:28:18 nobody will sell you goods for monero if they can't pay their wholesale supplier in monero 19:29:13 maybe on the black market it could work. 19:29:19 I dunno. Lots of corruption is "do what I want you to, and you get a salary for life for doing nothing after you're gone". 19:29:27 That's hard to turn down. 19:29:58 Which is why generous pensions for retired lawmakers in many countries. But still. 19:30:09 That's why the only politicians you can trust are fanatics. 19:30:13 Order 66. Watch out moneromooo . They will hunt down the jedi. 19:30:16 Could start a fashion for privacy I guess. 19:31:28 When I remember the poor USA fuckers claiming they were free because they'd never let a USSR style spying thing going on. What fools. 19:32:14 Anyway. Let's drink and code games just to forget it all. 19:32:16 Yoda said the same thing. Other wording. 19:33:11 if it makes you feel better, in the long run they haven't won anything 19:33:12 Wine, drink, and games, code, forget all to. 19:33:30 The war we won you say.. 19:33:47 sic transit gloria mundi 19:37:00 Yes - focus on the good stuff. 19:37:08 Whither, ocus01? 19:47:19 I'm pretty sure Monero has a future. The more control is exercised, the more people look for a way out. 19:52:04 i agree, it is just too useful 19:52:18 and nothing does what it does as well as it does 19:52:28 d4ndo[m]: And how will they use it? 19:52:34 With no way to exchange it for cash, there's no way out 19:52:37 they're trapped 19:52:55 In my dream world, I exchange my monero for food... 19:53:03 Electronic food... 19:53:04 Hello everyone! I almost finished implementing my mining pool for Monero. But my node (in German VPS) finds out late about new blocks. Maybe someone knows the address of the nodes of large pools? I will be grateful in advance! 19:53:07 it may not be easy , but there will be ways around restrictions 19:53:24 e.g. p2p such as localmonero etc 19:53:29 ocus01: How are you going to circumvent the banking restrictions? 19:53:38 small communities have lived on their own money before 19:53:38 That literally only works for cash, there's no way to get the liquidity 19:53:39 rogu86: how many connections does your daemon have (see the status command) ? 19:53:43 closed ecosystems 19:53:59 Drugs are illegal and you can find them everywhere. Same will probably be true for Monero if it is useful enough 19:54:29 not sure that's a good analogy, since drugs are bought with fiat, and then consumed. 19:54:30 Even in the worst case totally illegal case. 19:54:37 but it isn't - people want to buy drugs intrinstically 19:54:41 monero is just use to buy other stuff 19:55:14 well you could argue people want private transactions intrinsically 19:55:21 Yeah. People are ready to jump through hoops for drugs. They don't for privacy. 19:55:22 moneromooo "get_info" return me 28 incoming and 255 outgoing connections 19:55:22 some people, some transactions etc 19:55:44 That's a lot of outgoing, but otherwise looks ok. 19:56:00 Try #monero-pools I guess. 19:56:02 Yea not the best comparison but that’s why I said if it is useful enough that people want it 19:56:15 It's only useful in the event it's not banned 19:56:19 And some pools might advertise their blocks found with a delay just to fuck with others. 19:56:27 A currency which intrinsically is contraband can only be used to buy other contraband 19:56:38 With fungible Bitcoin and banned MOnero, everything would be OK 19:56:39 pas de tout 19:56:46 look at the use of USD in places where it is outlawed 19:56:53 long history of that sort of thing 19:57:26 OK, so this all means we need to bitchslap the fuckers who piss those ever more fascist regulations to get a brain. 19:57:28 moneromooo I wrote a script that polls public rpc about the height of the last block, and my node receives information about last block with a delay of 6 to 280 seconds compared, for example, with hashvault.pro =( 19:57:30 USD is useful in those places because it has easy value elsewhere in the world 19:58:02 rogu86: maybe your pipe's too slow for the nubmer of peers you have ? 19:58:20 ocus01: And there is a legitimate USD market offshore 19:58:24 28 in is really not much though, so maybe not. 19:58:37 rogu86: 255 outgoing conns seems excessive. default is only 8 19:58:57 I'm banned from #bitcoin, but the solution to the problem is deterministc transaction ordering 19:59:17 yanmaani: solution to which problem? 20:00:38 May I ask a noob question? Outgoing conns will notify my node about new block coming? Or does it just depend on incoming connections? And do I need to try to increase incoming connections? 20:01:02 hyc: FIFO 20:01:04 in or out conns all do the same 20:01:26 rogu86: there is no functional difference btw them 20:01:34 Both in and out. 20:01:55 moneromooo I increased out-peers to 256 and in-peers to 1024. Also, I increased limit-rate-up to 20480 and limit-rate-down to 30720 20:02:06 Ok, got it 20:02:20 yanmaani: what is deterministic transaction ordering ? A link to an explanation in the context of bitcoin is fine. 20:02:32 rogu86: how much network bandwidth does your machine have available? 20:02:35 moneromooo: When you make a transaction, the outputs have to be ordered in a certain way 20:02:38 deterministically 20:02:50 UTXO ID ascending I think 20:03:00 rogu86: by default, in peers is unlimited, so you shouldn't even need to touch that 20:04:03 @hyc I created a virtual machine at hetzner with plan that give me bandwidth up to 20TB per month. 20:04:39 @hyc thanks, I'll remove the in-peers setting in my monerod config! 20:06:13 on my own node I've had to restrict in_peers because monerod was eating too much of my network quota 20:07:54 It is my config and my attemps to increase connectivity of my node: https://pastebin.com/PvR4UQGs 20:08:45 But still I got a big delay about new blocks comparing to other RPCs 20:09:15 @hyc How many connections do you have on your node? 20:09:25 1/3 less quota now (and another third when most peers have updated) ^_^ 20:09:47